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Old 20-06-2018, 03:23 PM   #21
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Trump Surprises NASA, Calls for Mars Trip "During My First Term"

"Or at worst during my second term."

Wow..

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Old 21-06-2018, 06:16 AM   #22
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"Or at worst during my second term."

Wow..
Wow indeed ..... that's a very curious announcement, made in April 2017 .... NASA was thinking mars by 2030 before trump said this.

Using the tech which NASA has these sort of things take many years to plan , ... you have to wait for favorable alignment of mars , then building all life support , rockets etc ... difficult to achieve within the time limit ...

Of course in secret there are daily trips to mars using anti grav UFO type craft ...

I think this is , like the more recent announcement , all about getting the public comfortable with the idea of a space force and traveling to mars ...tiptoe disclosure.
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Wow indeed ..... that's a very curious announcement, made in April 2017 .... NASA was thinking mars by 2030 before trump said this.

Using the tech which NASA has these sort of things take many years to plan , ... you have to wait for favorable alignment of mars , then building all life support , rockets etc ... difficult to achieve within the time limit ...

Of course in secret there are daily trips to mars using anti grav UFO type craft ...

I think this is , like the more recent announcement , all about getting the public comfortable with the idea of a space force and traveling to mars ...tiptoe disclosure.
If they announced tomorrow that they are going to Mars, most people would not think twice about it so no need to get people comfortable about the idea.

Can you show any proof of daily trips to Mars other than some deranged people on YouTube who claim it to be going on?
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1) How much will this cost ? Kerching.

2) It's all BS and ain't gonna happen anyway. #CryWolf.
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Old 21-06-2018, 08:30 AM   #25
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"Andrew Basiago is a trial lawyer who ran as an independent candidate for US President in 2016. He is also, he claims, a government-sponsored time traveler who has visited Mars as part of a secret conspiracy that involved Barack Obama.

According to Basiago, as a child in the 1960s he was involved in a time-travel experiment for the U.S. government. He also claims that a decade later, while in college, he was part of a secret program to put humans on Mars.

In his own words: "I had two different periods of service in the secret space program, time traveling as a child in the late 1960s and early 1970s and going to Mars as a college student in the first half of the 1980s.
"We landed on Mars in 1964—the documentary source I can cite, but can't proffer is a French external intelligence organisation dossier I was asked to read in the summer of 1980 which was also read by the future President Barack Obama which referred to a crash landing by an American team of astronauts on Mars who perished because they were not rescued by the Martain humanoids."

These remarks were made as part of a panel at the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) Symposium, in which UFO truthers and those who claim to have had contact with aliens meet to discuss their various experiences.

Basiago has previously written a paper which was submitted to the National Geographic Society, entitled The Discovery of Life on Mars, in which he presented evidence of a mass grave of humanoids on the surface of the Red Planet.
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My initial thoughts were the same. This is related to disclosure and a fake existential threat from space.
ah yes, too much has been exposed about fake Middle Eastern threats so now they are stretching to further afield so they can say the same thing that aliens are about to invade us and we must go to war. Same old, same old, different place.
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Can you show any proof of daily trips to Mars other than some deranged people on YouTube who claim it to be going on?
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Andrew Basiago
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"Andrew Basiago is a trial lawyer who ran as an independent candidate for US President in 2016. He is also, he claims, a government-sponsored time traveler who has visited Mars as part of a secret conspiracy that involved Barack Obama.

According to Basiago, as a child in the 1960s he was involved in a time-travel experiment for the U.S. government. He also claims that a decade later, while in college, he was part of a secret program to put humans on Mars.

In his own words: "I had two different periods of service in the secret space program, time traveling as a child in the late 1960s and early 1970s and going to Mars as a college student in the first half of the 1980s.
"We landed on Mars in 1964—the documentary source I can cite, but can't proffer is a French external intelligence organisation dossier I was asked to read in the summer of 1980 which was also read by the future President Barack Obama which referred to a crash landing by an American team of astronauts on Mars who perished because they were not rescued by the Martain humanoids."

These remarks were made as part of a panel at the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) Symposium, in which UFO truthers and those who claim to have had contact with aliens meet to discuss their various experiences.

Basiago has previously written a paper which was submitted to the National Geographic Society, entitled The Discovery of Life on Mars, in which he presented evidence of a mass grave of humanoids on the surface of the Red Planet.
Is this source from the Daily Star ?
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1) How much will this cost ? Kerching.
Don't be ridiculous. The MAJOR cost is in the big rocket You make out that someone is funnelling it all away and getting rich......pathetic. Compared to the military budget this is tiny chunk of money.

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Your insight and knowledge are second to everyone, your opinion is hopeless. Thanks for sharing it. Got anything to back it up other than "deranged people on YouTube"
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Basiago has previously written a paper which was submitted to the National Geographic Society, entitled The Discovery of Life on Mars, in which he presented evidence of a mass grave of humanoids on the surface of the Red Planet.
A "paper" with "evidence". You mean this pile of horseshit

http://exopolitics.blogs.com/files/m...--12-12-08.pdf

I flicked through it with derision. His "evidence" is pareidolia of the most idiotic kind. He uses pictures from various unmanned rovers

I searched for the mass grave proof and all I found was this....

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Don't be ridiculous. The MAJOR cost is in the big rocket You make out that someone is funnelling it all away and getting rich......pathetic. Compared to the military budget this is tiny chunk of money.



Your insight and knowledge are second to everyone, your opinion is hopeless. Thanks for sharing it. Got anything to back it up other than "deranged people on YouTube"
"Deranged people " are your words and someone else's, Pointdexter.
Now back to your pot noodle, x-box and your mum will get you up in the morning.
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"Deranged people " are your words and someone else's, Pointdexter.
Well duhhh, that's why I put them in quotes I missed your response to the actual post, as always you offer troll crap.

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Our survey says uh-uhnnnnnnn

Don't eat crap, don't play games or own a x-box, left home around about 40 years ago. Stop projecting.

Hey, when are you going to do debate instead of shite?
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Some scepticism from those with closed minds about the testimony of this chap ....



A trial lawyer !!! Presidential candidate !!!

I'm curious to know what the sceptics think is going on here .

Has this man gone completely insane ???

Or perhaps he thinks it's a good career move and will get him elected, or get him more clients for his law business ???? lol

Or he's doing it for the MONEY ???? lol

Basiago's father has a proven history in the military/secret service ... he got his son involved at a young age in the time travel work going on.

Andrew Basiago's testimony corroborates the stories of many others who tell of their work in time travel , jump rooms to mars etc ( search "Montauk")....

[ there are at least 3 known technologies the secret government has for getting to Mars ... "jumping" strait from Earth to Mars , this is a portal for moving small mass (man size) items direct to another portal underground on Mars ...alternatively and more commonly a small (UFO type ) anti grav spacecraft can pick people up from Earth's surface , and travel to Mars (takes hours) .... also we have reports of larger ships using a portal near the moon to jump close to Mars (journey time minutes) ]

Stewart Swerdlow on the right , another important time travel whistleblower

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https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Andrew_Basiago

Mad as a mattress. Notice oz avoided responding to the ridiculous pareidolia shite evidence. His witness is a dipshit!

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Mad as a mattress. Notice oz avoided responding to the ridiculous pareidolia shite evidence. His witness is a dipshit!
"Mad as a mattress" ... so you think Basiago is another lunatic ... funny how so many 'lunatics' have a family history of involvement with CIA/ military intel , etc....

Responding to your links???

It's very easy for you to put "Basiago debunked" ... or "Moon Hoax debunked" ... or "9/11 Hoax debunked" in a Search ... and you'll go straight to a government created site giving the establishment view ...lies mixed with some truth ...

If I see any evidence that one person here has looked at this subject themselves (as I have for more than two decades) ... and has sensible criticisms and questions , then I'm very happy to be challenged and I will respond .

"According to Basiago, between 1962-’72 the U.S. government ran a clandestine operation called Project Pegasus. The program led to the successful development of a number of highly advanced technologies allowing for teleportation, physical time travel, and holographic time travel. He claims the program was run jointly by the CIA and DARPA, and was used to contact former presidents, teleport to Mars, and maintain a rapport with extraterrestrials.

Beginning when he was just a child, Basiago was selected from a group of psychically gifted children to become a time traveling liaison who would go on to meet historical and future dignitaries, as well as various extraterrestrial entities.

Basiago's father had previously worked for the Ralph M. Parsons Engineering Corporation, where he helped develop the technology.

When Basiago was brought to participate in his first “jump,” he says his father had already been time traveling for years at the Curtiss-Wright corporation in New Jersey. It was here where he was first exposed to the portal he would later use to teleport through time and space.

The portal itself, Basiago describes as two parentheses-shaped booms that were 8 feet tall and spaced about 10 feet apart. He describes the computer configuration from which the portal was being controlled as rudimentary and plugged into the wall with a power cord that would look more fitting if it lead to a lathe or drill press – ironic for a machine capable of tearing the space-time continuum.

Upon activation, this time-traversing machine created a “vortal tunnel” from radiant energy that was capable of bending the fabric of reality. This radiant energy was discovered by Nikola Tesla, whose schematic was posthumously discovered by the government in his New York apartment in 1943. The technology was parlayed into what Basiago calls a plasma confinement chamber which a user jumps into before being transported to a different moment or place in time....

Basiago wants all former presidents who are still alive to come forth and admit they were given previous knowledge of their destinies. They all knew they were picked specifically to become president, so it’s time for them to come clean.

The government would also have to disclose to the American public that they’ve been blinded from an ongoing and longstanding extraterrestrial presence, which began when we first developed and used atomic weapons. According to Basiago, the use of atomic weapons creates a tear in the fabric of space-time, of which there is nothing worse we could be doing to the universe in the eyes of extraterrestrial civilizations...."

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Some scepticism from those with closed minds about the testimony of this chap ....

Basiago's father has a proven history in the military/secret service ... he got his son involved at a young age in the time travel work going on.

Andrew Basiago's testimony corroborates the stories of many others who tell of their work in time travel , jump rooms to mars etc ( search "Montauk")....

[ there are at least 3 known technologies the secret government has for getting to Mars ... "jumping" strait from Earth to Mars , this is a portal for moving small mass (man size) items direct to another portal underground on Mars ...alternatively and more commonly a small (UFO type ) anti grav spacecraft can pick people up from Earth's surface , and travel to Mars (takes hours) .... also we have reports of larger ships using a portal near the moon to jump close to Mars (journey time minutes) ]
This isn't evidence, Oz, it is just people saying stuff.

JK Rowling said stuff too, as did Terry Pratchett. It doesn't mean that NASA really have dementors or that the Earth truly does ride on the back of giant turtles.

Learn the difference from make believe fantasy, fairy tales and reality

It isn't closed minded to dismiss fairy tales as fairy tales.

It's actually very closed minded to believe the word of one or two individuals without actually using discernment to see if what they say is even remotely possible - being critical of all info, especially the more outlandish is key to open mindedness

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Upon activation, this time-traversing machine created a “vortal tunnel” from radiant energy that was capable of bending the fabric of reality. This radiant energy was discovered by Nikola Tesla, whose schematic was posthumously discovered by the government in his New York apartment in 1943. The technology was parlayed into what Basiago calls a plasma confinement chamber which a user jumps into before being transported to a different moment or place in time....
Time and Space (which are intricately connected) are aspects of an extremely complex AI simulator. Within that simulator billions x billions of programs are working all at once.

All of those billions x billions of programs are focused on certain core programs that allow them to interact with each other on both the macro and micro scales - Time and Space are two of the core fundamental programs that hold the entire diorama of reality together.

To step outside of those two fields by 'tearing a hole in time space' effectively requires the displacement of billions of molecules and atoms, separating them not only from each other but from the core program and then re-assembling them, perfectly, in a different part of the core program projection.

You really don't need all that Tesla / plasma jargon, it just muddies the water - it's a mumbo-jumboesque confusion. And the reality of what Basiago is presenting is far more complicated than all that

Have you any idea the depth one would have to go to to re-write the initial program data of every single molecule in the human body, as well as the consciousness within those molecules, to make what you and Basiago are saying even plausible?

Moving molecules is one thing, but moving molecules that contain consciousness and memory is a whole new ball game.

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David with Stewart Swerdlow ....
David talks about the Matrix and how it is a holographic projection....... Swerdlow's and Basiago's ideas suggest that this Matrix can be hacked with technology - they painting a whole new reality to the one that David talks about - because if reality is a very complex hologram, time travel would be, in effect, breaking out of the matrix paradigms and re-writting the rule book, and those who have the rule book, or the tech to re-write it would be able to separate themselves from the entire AI aspect of it.......

You see you don't need to break out of the hologram to move through time and space, in the way that Basiago is suggesting (ie using plasma gizmo's and Tesla coils). You don't need alien technologies and zero gravity UFO's. you only need that stuff if the world that we exist in is not a hologram. and that stuff only works in a none holographic reality.

So, is David right, or is Basiago?

In a hologram, you effectively create the drama. Shamen, Buddhist, Tao and Zen scholars and mystics have and do time travel without Tesla coils and plasma converters and anti grav bullshit.

Incidentally, why would a UFO need anti gravity device in any case?

David may as well have his arm around the Pope, because both he and Swerdlow are offering two very different aspects of the world we live in. And both are not mutually acceptable to the one truth - ie that the world around us is a complex illusion. Basiago's and Swerdlow's realities actually oppose the reality that David talks about.

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"Mad as a mattress" ... so you think Basiago is another lunatic ... funny how so many 'lunatics' have a family history of involvement with CIA/ military intel , etc....

Responding to your links???

It's very easy for you to put "Basiago debunked" ... or "Moon Hoax debunked" ... or "9/11 Hoax debunked" in a Search ... and you'll go straight to a government created site giving the establishment view ...lies mixed with some truth ...

If I see any evidence that one person here has looked at this subject themselves (as I have for more than two decades) ... and has sensible criticisms and questions , then I'm very happy to be challenged and I will respond .

"According to Basiago, between 1962-’72 the U.S. government ran a clandestine operation called Project Pegasus. The program led to the successful development of a number of highly advanced technologies allowing for teleportation, physical time travel, and holographic time travel. He claims the program was run jointly by the CIA and DARPA, and was used to contact former presidents, teleport to Mars, and maintain a rapport with extraterrestrials.

Beginning when he was just a child, Basiago was selected from a group of psychically gifted children to become a time traveling liaison who would go on to meet historical and future dignitaries, as well as various extraterrestrial entities.

Basiago's father had previously worked for the Ralph M. Parsons Engineering Corporation, where he helped develop the technology.

When Basiago was brought to participate in his first “jump,” he says his father had already been time traveling for years at the Curtiss-Wright corporation in New Jersey. It was here where he was first exposed to the portal he would later use to teleport through time and space.

The portal itself, Basiago describes as two parentheses-shaped booms that were 8 feet tall and spaced about 10 feet apart. He describes the computer configuration from which the portal was being controlled as rudimentary and plugged into the wall with a power cord that would look more fitting if it lead to a lathe or drill press – ironic for a machine capable of tearing the space-time continuum.

Upon activation, this time-traversing machine created a “vortal tunnel” from radiant energy that was capable of bending the fabric of reality. This radiant energy was discovered by Nikola Tesla, whose schematic was posthumously discovered by the government in his New York apartment in 1943. The technology was parlayed into what Basiago calls a plasma confinement chamber which a user jumps into before being transported to a different moment or place in time....

Basiago wants all former presidents who are still alive to come forth and admit they were given previous knowledge of their destinies. They all knew they were picked specifically to become president, so it’s time for them to come clean.

The government would also have to disclose to the American public that they’ve been blinded from an ongoing and longstanding extraterrestrial presence, which began when we first developed and used atomic weapons. According to Basiago, the use of atomic weapons creates a tear in the fabric of space-time, of which there is nothing worse we could be doing to the universe in the eyes of extraterrestrial civilizations...."

Total bloody blah blah! Yes these "government controlled" debunk sites.....prove it! Then respond to the debunks. How about psyop to suck in gullible I love the way you qualify your bonkers claims by saying you've been bonkers for 20 years...........figures

So yes....respond to my link and respond to my observation about Mr Nut and his daft pareidolia. Go in be brave
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I've just watch David Wilcock's 7 min video commenting on trump's "Space Force" ...

Not an exceptional video but he does say at 0:50

..."Alex jones now talks about the SSP ... has insiders on his show.... "Zack" .."

This was news to me !! I haven't listened to AJ for months ...AJ has always hinted he was getting intel on the SSP even 18 years ago , he would say things like " they have technology 1,000 years ahead of what we have"...He's always shied away from the subject for fear of going too quickly for his audience..

With AJ covering this 10's millions will now be brought to this information , and full disclosure is rapidly approaching ...

2 min video

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Gish gallup. What do you think about his idiotic pareidolia claims? Or do you agree with his baffling observations?

All are watching oz.

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