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Old 06-07-2014, 10:34 PM   #80721
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Westminster paedophile ring allegations: Scotland Yard detectives trace 'victim'

Alleged victim of paedophile sex abuse interviewed in United States at request of Scotland Yard as Theresa May, the Home Secretary, prepares to make first official statement on growing sex scandal claims.

Scotland Yard has tracked down a child at the centre of an alleged 1980s Westminster paedophile ring who has implicated a senior political figure, The Telegraph can disclose.

The man - now in his 40s, whose identity is known to this newspaper - is a successful entrepreneur based in the United States and has given a detailed account of how he was assaulted by the politician.

However, the alleged victim - who was initially willing to co-operate - has so far refused to make a formal statement to British detectives.

Police have traced a copy of a statement he gave more than 30 years ago as a child when he was rescued from horrific sexual assault. His version of events is understood to be corroborated by a detective who conducted the official interview with the child at the time.

Downing Street has confirmed Theresa May, the Home Secretary, will make a statement on the Government’s handling of the wider allegations later.

It came as an MP who has played a leading role in disclosing allegations of sex abuse in Westminster called for a wide-ranging amnesty for police officers who were blocked from investigating allegations in the past.

Simon Danczuk, a Labour backbencher, said an amnesty would help resolve whether paedophiles in the heart of government had been the subject of a high-level cover up.

At least one former detective has told Mr Danczuk he had been forced to sign a gagging order about his role investigating alleged paedophiles in the government, and was frightened of the legal consequences of speaking openly about what he knew.

Between 20 and 30 new informants have come forward in less than a week since Mr Danczuk made major new allegations to a House of Commons committee about a dossier - said to have contained details of at least eight prominent paedophiles - which was handed to the Home Office in the 1980s.

Amid concerns that Scotland Yard has not assigned enough manpower to ongoing sex abuse inquiries, Mr Danczuk said: “I think what we need to do is create an amnesty for former police officers and other people in authority, including border guards, probation staff and social workers.

“If they are concerned about the implications of having signed any documents, including the Official Secrets Act, there should be an amnesty that will allow them to come forward and share their experience of investigating historic child sex abuse cases, so we can build up a more thorough picture of what went on at the time and potentially prosecute some of the alleged offenders.

“We have had lots of people get in touch including ex-police officers. I spoke to one former officer who said he had signed a gagging order, and I am not surprised by this. Many of these people are worried about the implications for themselves if they come forward, and worried about their pensions and so on.”

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Old 06-07-2014, 10:37 PM   #80722
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Apologies if this is off topic but the other side of this is that there maybe people in power (or have been in power) making vital decisions, which affect national/ European and world politics, who because of their distasteful personal activities could be leaned upon to make 'the right decision' for interested parties.
Nope, you don't need to apologize for that, that's very on topic
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Old 06-07-2014, 11:09 PM   #80723
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Same sort of 'whispering' as in that Charles piccie, don't you agree? What sordid little messages was Savile passing along, I wonder? And what POWER!!! To have the future Monarch and a senior Government Minister dangling, literally, for every word...it is quite revolting, really it is.

Great reminder of why we will not leave this thread alone - not this time.

Thanks Jond
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Old 07-07-2014, 12:28 AM   #80724
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Just a quick update and to say Thank You for all those who have so far written to their MPs and signed the petition.

143 MPs now
Labour 80
Con 35
LibDems15
DUP 5
P Cymru 3
SDLP 2
Alliance 1
Green 1
Respect 1

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At 9pm this petition had 41,615 signatures. Four hours later it has 55,771.
https://www.change.org/petitions/dav...ed-child-abuse

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Old 07-07-2014, 03:49 AM   #80725
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When Sex Abuse Can Lead To Murder

Article in, The Guardian, 27 November 2000 by Nick Davies
( who would rather report on hacking, than child abuse, now )

http://www.theguardian.com/world/200...dprotection.uk

Worth reading as it links up with Bill Maloney and Chris Fay's discussion on Youtube...

Award-winning journalist Nick Davies concludes a series looking at the evils of paedophilia by confronting the grim mysteries of snuff movies. Today: The Amsterdam connection

".....The exiled paedophiles were trafficking boys from other countries; running legitimate gay brothels and selling under-aged boys "under the counter"; they had branched out into the production of child pornography. And they had killed some of them. One boy had simply been shot through the head, Terry said: he had been causing trouble and had been executed in front of several pae dophiles. Another, he believed, had been thrown into one of the canals. But the one about whom he spoke the most was a boy who had been tortured and killed in the most painful fashion in the course of producing a pornographic video.

Terry said he had seen most of the video himself and had vomited before he could reach the end. The few detectives who specialise in the investigation of child abuse invariably say the same thing about "snuff" movies: they have often heard of them, sometimes pursued them but never found one. The videos remain one of the great unsolved mysteries of the burgeoning underworld of international sexual exploitation...."
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Old 07-07-2014, 05:53 AM   #80726
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Police did NOTHING to track down victim of child porn snuff film
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/475...orn-snuff-film
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Old 07-07-2014, 09:18 AM   #80727
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"He moaned about a gratis holiday he and his family took three years ago at the Miami mansion of Bee Gees singer Robin Gibb. There was, Blair grumbled, simply not enough to do.

Happily, the accommodation on the Rising Sun is more than up to scratch. And Mr Blair's host, the billionaire software magnate Larry Ellison, has gone to immense trouble to ensure his stay is a comfortable one.

The former Prime Minister, who stayed aboard the yacht without wife Cherie or any of his four children, was assigned a personal butler to attend to his every whim. This extended, Mr Blair has confided, to applying his factor 30 sun cream.

After Mr Blair joined the vessel in Sardinia, Mr Ellison, the 64-year-old CEO of computer firm Oracle Corporation and the world's fourth richest man with a fortune of £13.6billion, threw a glitzy cocktail party on the deck in his honour.

Such opulence is a step up even from the luxury of Sir Cliff Richard's Barbados home, where the Blairs - when they were in Downing Street - used to spend their summer holidays.

Nowadays, Mr Blair likes to move in even more rarefied circles. Principal among his new super-rich friends is David Geffen, the self-made Tinseltown mogul and business partner of Steven Spielberg. The gay billionaire has become a close confidant.

In fact, so close are they that Mr Blair has introduced 66-year-old Geffen to his friend Peter Mandelson, who was a dinner guest on the Rising Sun himself last week.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz36lspGMtA

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...l-servant.html

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Old 07-07-2014, 09:56 AM   #80728
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Apologies if this is off topic but the other side of this is that there maybe people in power (or have been in power) making vital decisions, which affect national/ European and world politics, who because of their distasteful personal activities could be leaned upon to make 'the right decision' for interested parties.

This means that even if you are not directly affected by child abuse we may all be affected by policies made because someone would like to keep their name out of the press!!

Any policy etc put in place by guilty individuals whether dead or alive should be scrutinised.
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Westminster paedophile ring allegations: Scotland Yard detectives trace 'victim'

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IMHO, absolutely no apologies necessary, essnumerology.In fact, what you wrote is at the heart of the issue.

Reading further down in the article that sweetcheeks posted, we see this:
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Writing for The Telegraph today Lord Tebbit, a colleague of Lord Brittan in Margaret Thatcher’s Cabinet in the 1980s, admits there “may well have been” a cover up of abuse by Establishment figures.
He calls for a “resolute” inquiry which will he argues would help “the public feel able to trust their leaders again”.
Apart from the fact that "there may well have been a cover-up" which, in politician-speak is tantamount to an admission of guilt to said accusation, Lord Tebbit is calling for an inquiry to "help the public trust their leaders" - an admission that politicians have lost public trust.

The heart of the issue - as indicated by essnumerology - is this dictatorial, paternalistic mindset which believes that it can a) make decisions without consulting the public whilst b) removing itself from the laws, morals and standards that are applicable to we ordinary people.

In any Parliamentary Representative Democracy, elected members are servants of the people, elected to represent and satisfy the majority will of the people and to use their own judgement in all integrity and probity when that will is difficult to discern.

There is a balance to be struck between serving and leading. It's apparent that far too many of our elected members have that balance way out of kilter.

It is eroding democracy as well as decency and the rule of law - and has set the tone for everyone who holds a public service position to follow.

Nowadays, I believe it's true to say that the default position for anyone who works in public services is an expectation of immunity from accountability, still less censure, in anything they do wrong.

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Old 07-07-2014, 09:58 AM   #80729
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so he knew all this and said nothing until now

get him in the dock with the rest of them
Thatcher minister Edwina Currie wrote in her published diaries about Tebbit:

'One appointment in the recent reshuffle has attracted a lot of gossip and could be very dangerous: Peter Morrison has become the PM's PPS [Parliamentary Private Secretary]. Now he's what they call a 'noted pederast', with a liking for young boys; he admitted as much to [Conservative Party chairman] Norman Tebbit when he became deputy chairman of the party but added' 'However, I'm very discreet' - and he must be! She [Thatcher] either knows and is taking a chance, or doesn't; either way, it's a really dumb move.'

Arrest Tebbit and that lying **** too.
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Bill Maloney & Chris Fay update

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeAc6...ature=youtu.be

Caution: Upsetting so only watch if you feel able.


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Old 07-07-2014, 10:34 AM   #80731
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Petition by Tom Watson which needs signing by as many people as possible. Over 35,000 signatures already and only been going less than a day. Please sign if you care about all that we have discussed here, we have to show Government how much we care about this issue.

As Tom Watson said "People power got child abuse on the political agenda. Please can you now help get a UK abuse inquiry?"

Establish a national inquiry into allegations of organised child abuse

For the past two years I've been working with a cross party group of MPs, survivors and experts looking into allegations of child abuse which may have involved senior Westminster and Whitehall figures in the 1970s and 80s.

This week it has emerged that files detailing the allegations have gone missing.

Many survivors of child abuse believe they have been let down by system of child protection in the UK.

Thousands had nowhere to turn. Nobody listened and nobody helped.

The missing Home Office files and the failure of previous police and local authority inquiries has meant that MPs from all the political parties have supported calls for an overarching national inquiry.

Government should make amends for historic failures to act by establishing an independent national inquiry into organised child abuse.

We owe it to the survivors. They expect nothing less.

Please sign the petition now. Takes 2 mins and will be the best thing you have done all week. Thank you.

Also keep writing to your MPs, 142 MPs so far and rising.

Edit: https://www.change.org/petitions/dav...ed-child-abuse
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Old 07-07-2014, 10:49 AM   #80732
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Police did NOTHING to track down victim of child porn snuff film
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/475...orn-snuff-film
Utterly sickening.

Everything seems to be 'just an insurance job' to the police nowadays.

And why are we allowing these death traffickers into the UK?
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Old 07-07-2014, 10:55 AM   #80733
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incidentally they were trotting out the same old 'no stone unturned' cracked record again on the BBC politics show this morning
They are good at stone-turning - but much better at very quickly putting the stones back as they found them.
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Old 07-07-2014, 11:13 AM   #80734
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Plumber states he found child porn stashed under the floorboards of Rolf Harris's house in 1970s

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...FNfKa8.twitter
This sounds like it might be in line with information shared with me back in the 1970s.

(These elements were not raised at Harris's trial. In all, I reckon they gave him an exceptionally fair crack of the whip.)
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here we go, turn on radio 2 the smear campaign has started against geoffrey dickens already
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Thatcher minister Edwina Currie wrote in her published diaries about Tebbit:

'One appointment in the recent reshuffle has attracted a lot of gossip and could be very dangerous: Peter Morrison has become the PM's PPS [Parliamentary Private Secretary]. Now he's what they call a 'noted pederast', with a liking for young boys; he admitted as much to [Conservative Party chairman] Norman Tebbit when he became deputy chairman of the party but added' 'However, I'm very discreet' - and he must be! She [Thatcher] either knows and is taking a chance, or doesn't; either way, it's a really dumb move.'
The lines that follow are actually equally as damaging:

"Teresa Gorman told me this evening (in a taxi coming back from a drinks party at the BBC) that she inherited Morrison’s (woman) agent, who claimed to have been offered money to keep quiet about his activities. It scares me, as all the press know, and as we get closer to the election someone is going to make trouble, very close to her indeed."



And don't forget the lodge!

"I heard he would take them to his hunting lodge in Scotland and they would have a whale of a time."

Behind a paywall here: http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/...cle1153409.ece

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This is probably nothing, but in the Telegraph article posted above by Sweetcheeks an odd paragraph caught my eye:

"Police are understood to have sent a United States investigator to interview the victim of alleged abuse at Elm Guest House, in Barnes, south-west London, who is now a successful businessman in his early 40s in the east coast US.

A US law enforcement officer, who had recently returned home after concluding a secondment to the Fernbridge team, was asked to interview the man on Scotland Yard’s behalf earlier this year.
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Am I alone in finding it odd that a foreign official would be seconded to such a sensitive investigation?
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Old 07-07-2014, 12:29 PM   #80738
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Interesting gossip from Jerry Hayes, ex Conservative MP confirming that they knew about Savile & others in the 80’s.


“Of course we knew about the mortuary exploits of Jimmy Savile and his penchant for amputees.”


“And many of us watched, as was our duty, grainy footage of some unidentifiable old boy, grunting over what was said to be an underage boy. We were told it was a well known grandee.”


Why was it the duty of MP’s to watch a grandee abusing a child?

Time for Jerry to help the police with their enquiries .... again.


http://jerryhayes.co.uk/posts/2014/0...itical-scandal
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Old 07-07-2014, 12:40 PM   #80739
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"No Stone Unturned.."

Every time I hear this it sends shivers down my spine .... as if Derren Brown is trying to hypnotise someone but it is Prime Minister Cameron or Sky News & BBC News repeating this mantra over and over.....

....and NOW on Sky News Live from Hindhead, Surrey , Mark Thomas Williams has just said something about 'lifting stones up..'

watch out for the 'gatekeepers'
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"No Stone Unturned.."

Every time I hear this it sends shivers down my spine .... as if Derren Brown is trying to hypnotise someone but it is Prime Minister Cameron or Sky News & BBC News repeating this mantra over and over.....

....and NOW on Sky News Live from Hindhead, Surrey , Mark Thomas Williams has just said something about 'lifting stones up..'

watch out for the 'gatekeepers'

Bill Wyman?....sorry, just a moment of light relief! We all need them.
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