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Old 24-06-2013, 01:49 PM   #70741
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London ~~ Monday June 25 2007
Judge's mercy for the man who raped 'provocatively dressed' girl of ten

By SAM GREENHILL

A paedophile who raped a ten-year-old girl will be free in just four months after a judge said his young victim had "dressed provocatively".

Window cleaner Keith Fenn, 24, could have been jailed for life after twice attacking the girl in a riverside park.



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Old 24-06-2013, 01:51 PM   #70742
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The Paedophile & the Judge Who Made a Mockery of British Justice
Sometimes I despair of our judges. Yesterday, Judge Tom Crowther gave a three month community - yes, community rehabilitation order to Michael Porter, a paedophile who had been convicted of 24 - yes, 24 - counts of indecent assualt and gross indecency. The reason? He had undergone "therapy".




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Old 24-06-2013, 01:58 PM   #70743
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So with Stuart Hall he can be judge upon the laws at the time of which
the offence was commited.
But with Judge Andrew Russell the opposite
occurs and it's not based upon the laws at the time an act was commited.
and if someone is convicted tomorrow onwards of a murder that was committed prior to the abolition of capitol punishment for murder (1965 in Britain and 1973in Northern Ireland), they will be hung of course!?!
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Old 24-06-2013, 02:19 PM   #70744
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Sex offenders including paedophiles should be allowed to adopt ...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...ve/8201521/Sex...
15/12/2010 · Sex offenders including paedophiles should be allowed to adopt, Theresa May told Rules which bar sex offenders from working with children are ‘unfair ...



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Old 24-06-2013, 02:24 PM   #70745
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@ Disco 77 - Just having a longer look at the time-line - thank you!

What a great cross-reference guide. It helps to be able to place people & events in time.

Geographical Reference suggestion. If there are any computer adepts out there who could organize the info based on geographic locations, that would probably be helpful too, in terms of connecting the links.
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Old 24-06-2013, 02:27 PM   #70746
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Fears of child sex abuse 'cover-up' as Theresa May rejects calls for super inquiry

THERESA May has been accused of a child sex abuse cover-up, after rejecting demands for a super-inquiry which could investigate claims made against top Tories.

By: Charlotte MeredithPublished: Wed, November 7, 2012
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Old 24-06-2013, 02:31 PM   #70747
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If we were to use our computer brains to formulate a CV for Jimmy, it would be the sort of document that just might have qualified the scoundral not simply for any job, but for any top job. In fact, had there been a vacancy in Hell, he would have qualified as the Devil himself.

(Those of another persuasion have substituted Hell for their Heaven - and granted qualifications, Doctorates, Knighthoods, Awards, Honours and Wealth & Influence enough to allow this 'man of York' to play God Himself!)

Was the paedophilia a by-product of this power? Or the main driving force behind all the deals and all the fund raising and the Agenda engineering?

The glaring irony is this: Savile claims to have used his Mensa intellect to dream up a way of not having to work, but simply pass the time as pleasantly and effortlessly as possible.

Yet he wrestled and rode and ran marathons (from the back seat of his latest Rolls Royce)
Cruised the seas on the Luxury Liner QE2 over 50 times
Constantly travelled up and down the country staying in caravans and washing his jocks in the sink every night.
Entertained Royalty and was Entertained by Royalty
Took his holidays in the company of Prime Ministers whose intellects were mere Jumbos to his own Concorde level
Befriended Priests and Holy men from all orders and who all shared in the abuse and victimization of children in their care
Volunteered in 4 Hospitals and 5 Secure Mental establishments as a Porter, as 'Entertainments Officer', until finally being appointed Head of Broadmoor (where his friend Peter Sutcliffe, The Yorkshire Ripper, was staying) by Health Minister Ken Clarke and Junior Health Minister Edwina Currie.
Who volunteered advice and guidance to Diana and Sarah Ferguson when their marriages failed, when asked by Charles.
Organised charity trips between orphan homes and gangs of known and unknown peadophiles, in Jersey and Scarborough, from Islington and Richmond
Took regular morning meetings at home (at any one of his 9 homes) with top policemen and other Freemasons
Worked consistently and over decades at the BBC, and for the BBC on radio, television and at live events involving children and youth.
Helped promote Esther Rantzen's CHILDLINE and the NSPCC, the Millionaire's club charity with absolutely no track record of EVER having helped a single child.
Found time to rape, murder, abuse and sexually terrify virtually anyone, but especially children, especially disabled or disfigured children, who came within his grasping clutches;

The irony is that this EVIL that was Jimmy was too busy 'working' to ever write or need such a 'fabulous' (sic) CV...

The evidence discovered, uncovered, checked out and double, triple checked supports and points towards the dreadful conclusion that Savile was also procuring and disposing of children and body parts for organised rings of paedophiles all over the country, and abroad. That very powerful people of influence and wealth were among these rings, that police and judges help protect these rings, that Government and the secret services were in collusion to enable the peadophillia and much worse to continue.

That is what we expect the current ongoing police investigation to conclude, once they have arrested and brought in for questioning the Lords, the Royals and the Mandarins and the Judges, the Chief Inspectors and the Industrialists and Celebrities and the Ministers involved.

The longer they delay, the more we simply must insist.


ps big thanks and thumbs up to everyone on the Forum. Visit and wake yourself up to the shocking facts about UK child abuse.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=222773


We will prevail because we will not let this fucker rest in peace.

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Old 24-06-2013, 02:44 PM   #70748
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Since judge Anthony Russell has been discussed of late I will add this bit of info here.




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Nephew of the late Master Russell, Anthony shares with him all the latter’s affection for the traditions of the law in general and for the Inn in particular. He has a passion for music both as a choral performer and listener. After predominantly criminal practice in Manchester, he became a Circuit Judge in 2004, and Recorder of Preston in October 2005. His election to the Bench means that the Middle Temple now has as Benchers the Recorders of Liverpool, Manchester and Preston. He has proved his commitment to the Inn by running, for many years, the Manchester Middle Temple Society.


It seems the man below, Sir Patrick Russell, is his uncle, (although haven't confirmed it)



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Sturdy master among Manchester lawyers

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The Guardian, Friday 8 November 2002 20.48 EST

http://www.middletemple.org.uk/membe...ll=true&page=1

Called to the bar in 1949, he was a member, and eventually head, of one of the most powerful chambers in Manchester, latterly Ship Canal House. He was the pre-eminent Manchester junior barrister of his day, and only modesty delayed his successful application for silk until 1971. Four years later, he led (with Harry Skinner, QC) the prosecution of the Birmingham Six, the six men accused of the 1974 murder of 21 people in two Birmingham pub bombings; their imprisonment came to an end in 1991 after the court of appeal found that the scientific and police evidence at the original trial had been unreliable.

In 1989, he and two other judges ruled that the £600,000 libel damages awarded to Sonia Sutcliffe, the estranged wife of the Yorkshire Ripper, against Private Eye were excessive, leading to an agreed settlement.

His influence was extensive:

Born in the Manchester suburb of Urmston, Russell attended his local grammar school, and took a law degree at Manchester University. As a highly regarded member of the northern circuit, and patron of the Manchester and District Medico-Legal Society, he was thus a Manchester man through and through. He did military service in the intelligence corps in the final year of the second world war, and was in the Royal Army Service Corps until 1948.

Russell's love for the law and the courts was equalled only by his love of cricket: he once remarked that he would rather have opened the bowling for Lancashire than have taken silk. He was president of Lancashire county cricket club from 1999 to 2001, in which year it fell to him to hold an inquiry into raffle-fixing allegations. For four successive years, trips for two to Thailand had been won by senior club officials, but, despite the odds against this happening, Russell pronounced everything to have been in order.
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In four successive years at the club's testimonial galas for long-serving players, the star prize of a trip to Thailand had been won by the wife of a committee member.

The luxury holidays were donated by Thai Airways to help fundraising in the benefit years of players Michael Atherton, Wasim Akram, Warren Hegg and Ian Austin.

Each year, the winner happened to be the wife of a leading official - vice chairman Murray Birnie; chairman of the cricket section Geoff Ogden; ground committee chairman David Dunkley; and the chairman himself, one of Lancashire's longest-serving players, Jack Simmons.

http://www.middletemple.org.uk/membe...ll=true&page=1
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....probes-1199485

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Old 24-06-2013, 03:10 PM   #70749
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Judge resigns following 'gay sex in club' report
Clare Dyer Legal Correspondent
The Guardian Apr 24, 1996;

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and if someone is convicted tomorrow onwards of a murder that was committed prior to the abolition of capitol punishment for murder (1965 in Britain and 1973in Northern Ireland), they will be hung of course!?!
Exactly no one would be hung and nor should they be in my view.
They have to trot out the old historical abuse line and the sentence given
is in line with sentences applicable at the time of the offence.

Child abuse is child abuse historical or otherwise. Makes no difference.
Just means the perp got away with it for longer and he didn't have his life
ruined earlier.

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Old 24-06-2013, 03:21 PM   #70751
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According to Debrett's , Russell's QC was awarded in 1999 and his interests include "video photography" :-

His Hon Judge Anthony Russell, QC's Biography

Forename(s)
Anthony Patrick
Sex
Male
Decorations
QC (1999)
Date of Birth
11/4/1951

Foretitle(s)
His Hon Judge
Surname
RUSSELL
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His Hon Judge Anthony Russell, QC
Recreations
singing, listening to music, video photography, travel, the countryside

His Hon Judge Anthony Russell, QC's Professional Career

Career
called to the Bar Middle Temple 1974; jr Northern Circuit 1977, recorder 1993-96 and 2001-04 (asst recorder 1989-93), standing counsel (Criminal) to the Inland Revenue 1994-96, circuit judge (Northern Circuit) 2004-06, sr circuit judge 2006-, hon recorder of Preston 2006-; memb Bar Cncl 1988-94; Guild of Church Musicians: memb Cncl 1985-93 and 1995-2004, hon fell 2001, vice-pres 2005


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Judge resigns following 'gay sex in club' report
Clare Dyer Legal Correspondent
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Lord chancellor has stated that being gay is no bar to a judicial appointment. But sexual activity in a gay sauna might amount to gross indecency between men in a public place, a criminal offence.
I guess we know what he was doing - but with whom exactly, and how old were they?
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London ~~ Monday June 25 2007
Judge's mercy for the man who raped 'provocatively dressed' girl of ten

By SAM GREENHILL

A paedophile who raped a ten-year-old girl will be free in just four months after a judge said his young victim had "dressed provocatively".

Window cleaner Keith Fenn, 24, could have been jailed for life after twice attacking the girl in a riverside park.



http://www.global-sisterhood-network.../view/1823/76/




You would think the law was complicit
http://ukpaedos-exposed.com/lenient-judges/

Judge Hall has a number of cases highlighted on the above link.
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Sex offenders including paedophiles should be allowed to adopt ...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...ve/8201521/Sex...
15/12/2010 · Sex offenders including paedophiles should be allowed to adopt, Theresa May told Rules which bar sex offenders from working with children are ‘unfair ...



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To do with this report.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/2010/n...ption-children

The government could face legal action if it continues to ban sex offenders from working with children,
according to research published today.

A report by a family law expert argues that some sex offenders should be allowed to adopt or foster children,
and claims that the current blanket ban is discriminatory.

"Sex offenders shouldn't all be tarred with the same brush," said Helen Reece at the London School of Economics
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who wrote the report. "People need to be carefully screened for adoption and fostering, but each case should be
taken on its merits.

"There shouldn't be blanket rules. What somebody has done before is not necessarily what he or she will do again.
When someone has served a sentence, as far as you can, you should treat them the same as anyone else."

The report points to legal challenges that have overturned other blanket bans on adoption, including a 2008 case in
which the House of Lords said rules in Northern Ireland preventing cohabiting couples from adopting children were discriminatory.

"If we believe that blanket bans are an effective and legitimate means to protect children then we should no more allow
cohabiting couples to adopt or foster than convicted sex offenders
," said Reece.

But claims in the report that cohabiting couples can present more of a risk to children than sex offenders are likely to provoke
anger among groups concerned with child protection.

Responding to the report, the government said child and adult safety was its priority. "It is vital that children and vulnerable
adults are protected," a Home Office spokesperson said. "We are committed to ensuring that decisions on who is suitable to
work with the vulnerable are proportionate and meet the test of common sense."

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'In 2005, again following another open competition conducted by the Commission for Judicial Appointments, Lord Falconer, as Lord Chancellor, appointed Judge Russell to the post of Senior Circuit Judge at Preston Combined Court.

'Both Lord Chancellors were aware of the events of 1996 when appointing Judge Russell QC.'

but insisted the description of what went on inside was 'factually inaccurate in some respects and exaggerated'. But sexual activity in a gay sauna might amount to gross indecency between men in a public place, a criminal offence. Which is it.

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Let's see how long it takes for Anthony Russell's "gay sauna case" records to mysteriously disappear.
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Stuart Syvret’s Twitter TL has a interesting perspective on this issue. anyone know what it is
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Since judge Anthony Russell has been discussed of late I will add this bit of info here.








It seems the man below, Sir Patrick Russell, is his uncle, (although haven't confirmed it)








http://www.middletemple.org.uk/membe...ll=true&page=1
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....probes-1199485
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Patrick_Russell

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Sir Thomas Patrick Russell PC (30 July 1926 – 28 October 2002), styled The Rt Hon Lord Justice Russell was a British high court judge and Lord Justice.

Born in 1926, one of three brothers, all educated at Urmston Grammar School and all graduates of Manchester University, one of his brothers a chemist, the other a doctor.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obit...k-Russell.html

Sir Patrick Russell, who has died aged 76, served as a Lord Justice of Appeal from 1987 to 1996, having earlier distinguished himself as one of the finest advocates on the Northern Circuit.

As a barrister, Russell always went straight to the heart of a case and, while never flamboyant, he was a highly persuasive and deadly cross-examiner. Adept at getting on the wavelength of both juries and judges, he was particularly strong in criminal trials, where his knowledge of the law was deemed second to none.

His forensic skills led to his selection as prosecution counsel in a series of trials involving suspected members of the Provisional IRA, including the so-called "Birmingham Six" case in 1975.
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Stuart Syvret ‏@StuartSyvret 45m

@suttonnick That personal experience on the part of judge = judge not able to meet crucial test of appearance of objectivity.


isynclen isynclen ‏@isynclen 38m

@StuartSyvret I am curious of the reason why he wouldn't meet the crucial test?


4:06 PM - 23 Jun 13 · Details
Stuart Syvret Stuart Syvret ‏@StuartSyvret 4m

@isynclen "Justice must not only be done, but be seen to be done." No person with a personal history of career-damage from some issue....

Stuart Syvret Stuart Syvret ‏@StuartSyvret 2m

@isynclen ...no matter how unjustly, could then be looked upon as uncontaminated with personal feelings.
Is this what you are referring to?

It looks as though legally he should have recused himself from the case. What happens to the verdict in such a case? Is the sentence thrown out? Is there a re-trial?

Shouldn't Hall's defense lawyer be appealing the conviction based on the fact that judge Anthony Russell was not impartial?

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Is this what you are referring to?
Interesting !
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