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Old 14-08-2008, 08:24 AM   #1
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The United States Government proudly proclaims to the world that its existence is the result of a "democracy" based largely on proportional representation of its citizens. Is this fact or myth? Former President Jimmy Carter once said that the Israeli lobby was so powerful that "no one could become President without their support". Former President George Bush hinted at the power of the Israeli lobby by saying "there are powerful forces out there". Bush made that seemingly innocuous statement while defending his decision not to give Israel massive new loans to build more illegal Jewish settlements on the West Bank. Latter Bush was forced to apologize for simply hinting at a fundamental truth of American politics. The American media falsely states on a regular basis that United States aid to Israel is just 3 billion dollars per year. In truth our military aid to Israel is over 3 billion dollars per year and our nonmilitary aid to Israel amounts to over 2 billion dollars per year. The value of unrepaid loans our politicians regularly give Israel brings total United States taxpayer aid to over 6.2 billion dollars per year. That means we pay Israel over 17 million dollars every day! So ask yourself this obvious question. Why does our own media wish to misinform American voters as to the true extent of our transfer of national wealth to Israel? Are the big news organizations simply bad at mathematics or do they wish to hide from the American public the true nature of US-Israeli relations?
The American media has been heavily dominated by supporters of Israel since at least 1960 and have made Zionism our mandatory State religion. The American psyche has become so repressed that most Americans are afraid to say the word Zionist in public. That is the very definition of mind control. No one dares speak of big brother unless in praise or on bended knees. American taxpayers have been forced to hand over approximately 100 billion dollars in foreign aid to Israel since 1960. Those few members of Congress brave enough to oppose this aid are ostracized by their colleges and disbarred from the cliques of political power. Below find a list of crimes which our great moral leaders oppose unless Israel does it.

  • State torture of prisoners without trail is bad unless Israel does it.
  • Ethnic cleansing is bad unless Israel does it.
  • Systematically breaking the bones of children is evil unless Israel does it.
  • Running the largest and most effective foreign spy ring operating in America is bad unless Israel does it.
  • Dropping American made fragmentation bombs on the middle of downtown Beirut in clearly genocidal attacks against civilians is bad unless Israel does it.
  • Getting F 16 fighter aircraft for free from the United States and then selling that secret technology to the People’s Republic of China is bad unless Israel does it.
  • Interfering in the American electoral process is bad unless Israel does it.
  • Denying freedom of speech and religion is bad unless Israel does it.
  • Forcing your Christian and Moslem citizens to pay full taxes yet denying them welfare and social security benefits is wrong unless Israel does it.
  • Killing tens of thousands of Lebanese civilians in reckless artillery barrages is bad unless Israel does it.
  • Using death squads to assassinate political opponents (even Americans) at home and abroad is bad unless Israel does it.
  • Starting wars of land theft and then rewriting world history to make the aggressor look like the victim is bad unless Israel does it.
  • Dumping out gallons of black Jewish blood graciously donated to blood banks is racist unless Israel does it.
  • Illegally confiscating the homes of Christians and Moslems is bad unless Israel does it.
  • Breaking the Geneva Convention by using group punishment is bad unless Israel does it.
  • Insulting the American people by having your Prime Minister address the United States Congress and lecturing them like children on why they have no right to reduce foreign aid is bad unless Israel does it.
  • Paying off Newt Gingrich by giving his wife a job as a lobbyist for an Israeli business consortium is bad unless Israel does it.
  • The November 15th edition of the London "SUNDAY TIMES" reported that Israel is developing a genetically engineered virus or bacterium specifically designed to kill only Arabs. Jews exposed to the same germs would be left unaffected due to their unique genetic makeup. The research is being carried out at Israel's main biological and chemical weapons facility at Nes Tziyona. The story was confirmed by a member of the Israeli knesset, Dedi Zucker, and a research scientist working directly on the project. The "SUNDAY TIMES" claims an unnamed senior western intelligence source also verified the story.
  • Foreign Report, a Jane’s publication that monitors defense issues, quoted a South African source as saying that Israel borrowed South African’s apartheid era research into developing a bio-weapon to be used against black Africans. The Israelis want to use the same ghoulish technology to develop an “ethnic bomb” to kill off their fellow Semites, the Arabs. As no such weapon could be used without first being tested on live human beings one wonders who the Israelis are planning to infect first as test subjects. Germ warfare and planned racial genocide are evil, according to American politicians, unless Israel does it!
  • To get the full London "SUNDAY TIMES" story go to: http://web.archive.org/web/19990429200448/http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/ , log in, go to "resources", then to "library", then punch in November 15th, 1998.
  • The British Medical Association expressed its concerns about ethno-specific germ warfare research through a new publication entitled Biotechnology, Weapons and Humanity, whose summary states: "In genetic terms there are more similarities between different people and peoples than there are differences. But the differences exist, and may singly or in combination distinguish the members of one social group (an “ethnic” group) from another." BMA Web site: http://www.bma.org.uk/public/science/biotech.htm
I could fill a dozen pages listing the crimes of Israel but the point is made. I suggest every American watch the movie The Manchurian Candidate. In the movie a dozen brainwashed soldiers continually and fanatically state that their commanding officer was the bravest, kindest, warmest, most wonderful human being they had ever known. The truth was just the opposite but systematic psychological conditioning made them repeat the same lies over and over.
All of the crimes and abuses listed above have occurred since 1967 and have been rewarded with ever increasing United States taxpayer aid to Israel. If the 100 billion dollar figure of total foreign aid were adjusted for inflation it would almost double if expressed in 1998 valued dollars. Remember much of our aid was given in the 1960s and 1970s when the US dollar was much more valuable. Our founding fathers would never approve of such a massive giveaway of national wealth or tolerate the heavy handed influence of the Israeli lobby.
Polls show that 89% of the American public opposes any aid to Israel. That means the 11% Zionist minority has turned the 89% non-Zionist majority into tax slaves for a foreign power. America has become a virtual colony of Israel and our very sovereignty has been cleary degraded. It should be noted that only about 2.5% of the American population is Jewish. So the problem is in large part caused by Christian Zionists such as Newt Gingrich, Fred Barnes, Pat Robertson, Orrin Hatch, and liberal Christians like President Bill Clinton.
Many American politicians jump on the Zionist bandwagon simply because they know that is where the power is. The Jewish Anti-Defamation League has effectively silenced many critics of Israel by smearing the character of anyone who opposes aid to that country. The media continues to verbally crucify those who speak out against the anti-democratic power of the Israeli lobby making public debate on the issue virtually impossible. Truth has become socially illegal in America and that is not healthy for any so-called "democracy".
The pro-Israel Hollywood movie industry has completely distorted world history and portrayed Arabs as subhuman monsters who deserve no legal rights under any law. Jews have used their dominance in the media to deify themselves and vilify Palestinians and any opposition to Zionism. In the movie The Seventh Sign Palestinians were linked to the return of Satan (the anti-Christ) on earth. In the film Navy Seals American soldiers were shown murdering innocent Moslem pedestrians to the glee of bloodthirsty audiences. What would happen to any movie director who equated Jews with the devil or who portrayed the killing of Jews as an enjoyable sport? Hollywood has done to Arabs exactly what Hitler did to Jews in his propaganda films of the thirties and forties. Even Arnold Schwazenegger has jumped on this Arab killing bandwagon in his recent film True Lies. I suspect this is a selfish move to gain the graces of a Jewish dominated industry skeptical of his Austrian heritage.
Steven Spielberg and associates would have us believe that the only people who died in Hitler's concentration camps were Jews and therefore Jews have special rights to commit crimes that other people should not commit. In fact between 40% and 45% of concentration camp victims were Jews. The 55% to 60% majority were not Jews but rather Christians with the largest portion being Slavs. Hitler called Slavs "the ultimate subhumans". Why don't we give Slavic people the same James Bond style "license to kill" we have given Jews? The answer is that Slavs do not dominate the American media or control our sold out Congress.
I would like to see just one movie that showed the real face of Dorian Grey, not the forever innocent face Hollywood propagandists project. Why not show Israeli Jews ethnically cleansing Palestinians from their homes, torturing prisoners, breaking the bones of children, and forcing American politicians to lick their boots in exchange for support from the American Israeli Public Affairs Committe (AIPAC)? It was a sad sight to see Bob Dole do just that in his last pathetic bid for the presidency. Before Dole was a presidential candidate he was against aid to Israel and highly critical of Israel's brutal policies. After his candidacy Dole became Zionism's best friend with no thought to the welfare of Palestinians or American taxpayers.
Bob Dole's sellout to the Israeli lobby during the 1996 Presidential Campaign was particularly disappointing as during the Intifada Dole boldly spoke out against Israel's brutal tactic of systematically breaking the bones of children. As a Senate leader Dole even tried to reduce foreign aid to all nations by 10% across the board but the Israeli lobby flexed it's muscles and publicly humiliated Dole, putting him in his place. In Dole's own words "They (the Israeli lobby) nearly ran me out of town". Even top Congressional leaders and American presidents must kow tow to Israel to survive politically in America's false democracy.
If you analyze world history you can see what has always happened to leaders, countries, or political organizations that become so powerful they cannot be publicly criticized. Of course they have always become corrupt, arrogant, and dictatorial. Haven't we put Zionism on such a high pedestal in America that that is exactly what has happened here? We talk about equal treatment for all races but look at what we actually practice. We have one standard for the treatment of Jews that is so high they cannot be criticized no matter what grisly crimes they commit. Then we have a second standard for the treatment of Palestinians that is so low we publicly finance their ethnic cleansing and torture. America has reasonably moral policies at home but our foreign policy is as corrupt, hypocritical, and violent as any of the third world dictatorships we love to look down upon and occasionally bomb.
As a libertarian I fully and enthusiastically support the legal rights of Jews around the world and denounce any criminal acts against them. I simply do not believe Jews should be patronized, worshipped as "God's chosen people", or given carte blanch to control the United States Government. The religious beliefs of Americans are their own personal free choice as long as they do not infringe on the legitimate rights of others. It is our legitimate right as citizens and taxpayers not to be forced to finance the crimes of Zionism, which Christians and Jews are equally responsible for. Americans who wish to support Israel have the right to do so by sending Israel a personal check. The United States Government has no Constitutional right to put a gun to the head of American taxpayers and force us all to pay taxes to Zionism against our will.
Suggested Reading
"The Fateful Triangle" (South End Press) by respected Jewish MIT professor Noam Chomsky. I believe most of what Chomsky says about the Middle East is true. I disagree with his assessment that Israel intentionally attacked the American spy ship Liberty during the 1967 war. I do not see any reasonable motive for such an attack as Israel already had the support of Congress and President Lyndon Johnson. Johnson was so firmly in the Israeli camp that he let dozens of Americans die on the Liberty rather than defend her from this, I believe, accidental Israeli attack.
I do agree with Chomsky that Israel started the 1967 war in a Pearl Harbor style surprise attack that destroyed the Egyptian air force on the ground. The three Israeli generals who planned the attack admitted they started the war in interviews with Israeli newspapers. Menachem Begin, an opposition leader at the time, stated that the real motive of the attack was a desire to gain new territory, not a defensive preemptive move against the tiny and militarily irrelevant force that Egypt had placed along the Israeli border. Our own CIA concluded the same thing but our media continues to lie to us by saying the Arabs "launched an attack on Israel". How can parked Egyptian airplanes launch an attack that the Egyptians didn't even know was coming? Our media's distortion of this historical event could be compared to the totalitarian mind control tactics of George Orwell's novel "1984".
Christopher Calder
A late addition
I received a letter from a Mr. Holmes who identified himself as a "Libertarian" and who accused me of being an "anti-Semite". Mr. Holmes conceded all my facts and even stated that he knew it all already. He then went on, in my interpretation of his words, to accuse me of the thought crime of not loving big brother even though he admitted all the criminal and unethical behavior of big brother. Below is my response.
Dear Mr. Holmes,
I find it interesting that you cannot deny the truths I tell on my Web page yet you engage in name calling which is in itself a provable lie. Palestinians are "Semites" and just as human as Jews. When you could not win your argument with facts you distorted the English language with doublespeak by calling me an "anti-Semite". So a person standing up for the rights of Semites (Palestinians) in our Orwellian state of untruth is called an "anti-Semite". This is done to falsely associate someone interested in human rights and international law with Hitler and the KKK when there is no connection at all. This is also designed to disassociate real world Jewish behavior from valid criticisms of the real world crimes of Zionism.
I also opposed the Vietnam War with the same fervor and was called a "communist" even though I am a free market libertarian. You are using the same intellectually cowardly tactics as the supporters of that totally pointless American lead genocide in Vietnam. If one Jew was being abused anywhere in the world you would be crying. The "dark motive" is that you do not consider Palestinians to be equally human and therefore you do not share my anger at being forced at gunpoint to finance the theft of their land, their torture, and their constant humiliation. You have used the English language to tell lies just as in the novel "1984".
I am pro-truth and anti-lie. That is my real nature which you cannot see. I use blunt language and call a thing by it's real name because people need to be shocked out of their dazed, brainwashed state of mind. Limp words won't do the job. If I had used the cowardly veiled criticisms of Israel you usually hear you would not have even bothered to write me back. My whole point is to engage people in debate because no supporter of Israel or bench sitter can win that debate. They always lose and resort to name calling as you did. Once in a while someone will wake up and realize they have been brainwashed and the effort becomes worthwhile.
I am not against you, I am against your current brainwashed state of mind. But your mind can change. In decades or centuries I believe historians will look back on this period of American history as the Zionist era. People living in this era have a difficult time recognizing what they are in because the pressure to conform to the lock step thinking is so great. But that is slowly changing and support for Zionism is weakening. I oppose Zionism because it is based on so many lies and makes Church and State and cult one organization.
The trouble with the Republican Party in America is that they talk about freedom but support fascism and State control of our very souls. You seem to be as close to being a Republican as a "Libertarian". That is the worst insult I have for you,... calling you almost a Republican (that's a joke). I will never consider letting myself being forced to finance someone's murder to be good manners. Can you imagine the harsh language Jefferson or Madison would use against Zionism if you could bring them back in a time machine? Can you imagine the harsh language Jesus (a Jew) would use against those Jewish Zionists who wish to legalize torture? I am just a regular person, not a saint or leader, but certainly I should be allowed to speak my mind about such offenses to basic human rights and American sovereignty.
Sincerely,
Christopher Calder
Further comments on mind control
The human mind has many distinct functions. Among these are the seeing function, which is pure consciousness, the reasoning function, which is the effort of analysis, and the recording function, which is an effortless absorption of input from our environment. The mind tends to take the path of least effort and uses the tape recorder function to replace the more difficult functions of seeing and reasoning. The media exploits our mind's unconscious recording of information through use of repetitive advertisements designed to make us buy things we don't really need. The media also has a political agenda which is to make Americans worship the State of Israel and despise Palestinians.
Often when you ask someone their opinion they will simply replay a mental tape that has been pre-programed into them by others. People may think they have a political opinion of their own but in actuality they are acting as walking tape recorders. This is why so many Americans say word for word that "Israel is a democracy and our important strategic ally". They don't even bother to change the words. They replay the tape exactly as it was loaded into their bio-computers (minds). America has become a mind controlled society because of the over use of the mind's recorder function. In America it has become politically correct to criticize Arabs, Catholics, fundamentalist Christians and the French, but it is strictly taboo to criticize Jews, Judaism, or Israel. All societies have their own unique forms of enforced mental programing and this is not a strictly American phenomena.
A number of years ago a television news anchor, Dean Reynolds, gave an editorial disguised as news on why Palestinians are "so easy to hate". This occurred on ABC World News Tonight with Peter Jennings. Jennings, who has given Saturday morning "children's specials" on the evils of racism, allowed this bigoted slander on his news show and never apologized for it. Tell me what would happen to any newsman who gave an editorial on why Jews are so easy to hate? He would of course be out of a job as soon as he got off the air and his editorial would be front page news across the nation. Needless to say Dean Reynolds is still working for ABC and the rest of our two faced media did not criticize him for his statements.
Our programming is so strong and our reasoning so weak that otherwise intelligent people have become irrational zealots when it comes to supporting Israel, a nation that shares none of the most important values we are supposed to believe in as Americans. I'm refering to fundamental human rights such as freedom from torture, basic property rights, and freedom of religion. If Israeli Christians are penalized for being Christians by refusing them welfare and social security benefits even though they pay the same tax rates as Israeli Jews then you cannot say that Israel has freedom of religion. If we treated American Jews the way Israel treats Christians they would call us fascists.
The American media routinely censors news about the Middle East and downplays embarrassing stories such as the Israeli blood bank scandal, the Jewish Anti-Defamation League spy scandal, the Temple Mount massacre, and Israel's ghoulish experiments in mixing racism with germ warfare. News organizations often play a game of hide the story in the haystack with issues it does not want the voting public to know about or to discuss. For example in 1992 the head of the American Israeli Public Affairs Committe (AIPAC) was secretly tape recorded bragging about AIPAC's total political control over Bill Clinton. That important story received no television air time other than a single brief review on one noontime CNN broadcast. If you just passively absorb the media's censored and slanted reporting you will continue to be a slave in a country that claims to be a free thinking democracy. If you want the truth from the American media then you will have to use the seeing and the reasoning power of your mind.
Always be aware that news shows are not news shows, they are editorials presented as news. Remember that movies are not real life, they are someone's point of view falsely presented as fact. Don't let the mind controllers make you think that anyone is above the law or has special privilege to abuse the human rights of others. Don't support criminal behavior by being silent. That is what many Germans did when Hitler killed Slavs and Jews by the millions. We now call those silent Germans war criminals. We call those who are silent about Israel's crimes against Palestinians politically correct.
Our media wants us to forget that the West has been a ruthless colonial power in the Middle East for centuries and has continuously treated Arabs as subhumans. We want their oil and arrogantly feel we own their oil. We treat Palestinians as non-entities and fundamentally want them to crawl off into a hole and die. Thus a small minority of Palestinians get angry and throw bombs just as a small minority of Irish nationalists get angry at the British and throw bombs. We do not consider the Irish to be subhumans for their violent outbursts yet we treat Palestinians as such. This is the real face of American racism.
I would be remiss if I did not mention another cause of our blind support for Israel. That cause is the strange form of Christian Zionism professed by Pat Robertson. Pat does not believe in freedom of religion and states that only Christians and Jews should be allowed to hold public office. He believes all the Hindus, Buddhists, Moslems, atheists, and agnostics in America should be given a form of second class citizenship. Pat has said that anyone who meditates or practices yoga is communing with the devil. When Pat Robertson is not spiritually healing people's hemorrhoids via telepathy (yes, I actually saw him pretend to do that on his show) he is forever "fund raising". If Jesus were a Moslem instead of a Jew would we still have given Jews the right to murder Lebanese civilians by the thousands? Isn't our unquestioning support for Israel part of an ugly religious war against Islam? If the real Jesus were to come back wouldn't he throw the money changers (Pat Robertson) out of the temple?
Our loyalty should be to the truth, not to this temporary hypocritical society we live in. In 60 years almost every adult you know will be dead and it won't matter what they thought of you. If you stand up for truth and for fair treatment of Palestinians you will be called many ugly names. Don't let this name calling bother you. Our morally blind worship of Israel is an unfortunate but passing phase of American society. If you embrace the big lies you will be putting your soul on the wrong side of history and your ethics on the wrong side of international law. Truth is eternal and, in my opinion, will go with you in a positive way even beyond your physical death.
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Old 14-08-2008, 10:22 AM   #2
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Irael is the like 51st state of the u.s.

BOTH are CFR controlled.
Irael have NO control over the U.S.A
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We hear all day long from when we were children that the Jews run everything. This is totally incorrect and it gets installed in the populations so the real shadowy ELders are smokescreened and the Jews take the blame. The Zionist jews of Israel are simply Freemasons and therefore subservant to the Superior General of the Jesuit Order. The U.S is controlled by The Jesuit Vatican and their Mafiosi. If Jews ruled the world then why does Israel need U.S permission to activate their nukes? Why will the Vatican own 60%+ of Jerusalem including Temple Mount, thanks to Jesuit trained Shimon Peres? What gives the impression that Israel rules the U.S is simply because they are both ruled by the Council on Foreign Relations. This of course is controlled by the SMOM and ultimately the Archbishop of New York, Cardinal Egan. Why is it that when Sharon thought he'd annoy the Vatican that he simply gets ELiminated by `The Cup of Borgia' by Vatican spys Peres & Beilin? Then Vatican lackies Olmert, Peres win the ELection and do as the Pope wishes. Peres was straight on a plane for the Vatican after winning!
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Old 14-08-2008, 10:32 AM   #4
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The Zionist Connection: The CFR is Dominated by Jews The Zionist Connection is the sinewy thread that ties this entire, vast, traitorous enterprise together. The Bush Administration is only a puppet operation. The Council on Foreign Relations has among its leading members such Zionist fanatics and servants as Vice President Dick Cheney, Secretary of State Condi Rice, and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld. In all, over seventy percent of the membership of the CFR is Jewish! Also on the CFR's rolls: Ben Bernanke, Chairman of the Federal Reserve; Robert Rubin, Clinton's former Secretary of the Treasury; and Madleine Albright, Clinton's former Secretary of State. Every one of these persons is a Jew and a Zionist Agent. Their first allegiance is to the Jewish World Authority. Here are some other top Jewish names that dominate the CFR. Indeed, the CFR is nothing more than America's premier Zionist Secret Society, a traitorous front for global Jewish interests and headquarters for the furtherance of the Zionist plot for a global Jewish Utopia: Carla Hills, Henry Bienen, Kenneth Duberstein, Martin Feldman, Richard Salomon, Bart Friedman, Maurice Greenberg, Morton Janklow, Ira Lipman, Seymour Sternberg, Frank Wisner, Michael Moscow, Roger Altman, Jessica Einhorn, David Greenberg, Louis Perlmutter, Joshua Steiner, Anita Wien, Douglas Schoen, Malcolm Weiner, Charles Schumer, Nancy Soderberg, Peter Tannoff, Abraham Lowenthal, Marc Thiessen, Daniel Yergin, Douglas Feith, Richard Perle, Carl Gershman, Peter Rosenblatt, Joseph Lieberman, Mortimer Zuckerman. All of those listed are CFR Jews. All are globalists. As CFR conspirators and associates, all, in my opinion, are deceitful traitors, guilty of treason, enemies of the Constitution of the United States of America. They deserve to be arrested, indicted, and, if found guilty by a jury of 12 honest American Patriots, sent to prison or executed.more here

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Yes Zionism controls the US and the UK 100% and to varying degrees the rest of Europe, with Sarkozy now in charge France is now 100% and Germany has been since WW2.

Does Zionism mean all Jews or only Jews ? No, by no means. (but there again wether you say that or not you will still called an antisemite)

The next US President will also be a full blown Zionist



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Yes Zionism controls the US and the UK 100% and to varying degrees the rest of Europe, with Sarkozy now in charge France is now 100% and Germany has been since WW2.

Does Zionism mean all Jews or only Jews ? No, by no means. (but there again wether you say that or not you will still called an antisemite)

The next US President will also be a full blown Zionist



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jesuits control the u.s and u.k through the knight of malta
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jesuits control the u.s and u.k through the knight of malta
Then the Jesuits are Zionists too, not really hard is it.

The mistake people make is assuming Zionism means Jews/Israel, some times this is deliberate so they can slander you with the antisemite label.

Zionism is the New World Order.

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In Jerusalem, the United Nations (a truly United Nations) will build a Shrine of the Prophets to serve the federated union of all continents; this will be the seat of the Supreme Court of Mankind, to settle all controversies among the federated continents
David Ben Gurion, Israeli PM Jan 16 1962

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Just Sign here and your country is ours, thank you!




With President Ronald Reagan

With the Bush´s
Up yours USA
Australia - Prime Minister John W. Howard

Austria - President Thomas Klestil
Azerbaijan - President Heydar Alyev
Bulgaria - Prime Minister Simeon II
Canada - Prime Minister Jean Cretein

Fiji - President Ratu Josefa
France - President Jacques Chirac

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anity Fair's `Top 100' seems to confirm
age-old `canards' about `Jewish power'
.If you think that the United States is run by a White Anglo-Saxon Protestant (WASP) elite, think again. The reality is very much otherwise, according to an old-line American magazine that did, indeed, once rank as a voice of the so-called “WASP” establishment.

Vanity Fair—the stylish monthly now owned by the billionaire Zionist Newhouse family—has just published its annual list of the 100 most powerful people in America, what Vanity Fair calls “the New Establishment.”

What this amazing list reveals is a reality that many will find hard to accept: America’s “New Establishment” is overwhelmingly dominated by Jewish figures or those who are on the payroll of or dependent upon Jewish families and financial interests that bankroll the powerful Israeli lobby in America. That conclusion—however “offensive” or “controversial” in the eyes of some people—is inescapable.

Based on Vanity Fair’s listing from the position of 1-100, persons known to be Jewish occupy 53% of the power positions. However, there are actually 106 names on the list (with two names listed side by side in five places) and with the additional names (four of the six being Jewish), there are 57 individuals known to be Jewish listed.

So depending upon how one calculates, either 53% (or 54% including all those listed) of the most powerful members of “the New Establishment”—as perceived by Vanity Fair—are Jewish.And it should be noted that Vanity Fair’s assessment of who constitutes “the New Establishment” is one that critics would be hard-pressed to dispute.

The fact that a Jewish-owned publication has published the names of these Jewish power brokers (without specifically citing their ethnic and religious heritage) is interesting, especially since Israel’s prestigious newspaper, The Jerusalem Post, on Oct. 11, 2007, heralded publication of the list, saying in a headline that “Jewish power dominates [at the] Vanity Fair [list]. The reporter for the Post, Nathan Burstein, noted:
It’s a list of “the world’s most powerful people,” 100 of the bankers and media moguls, publishers and image makers who shape the lives of billions. It’s an exclusive, insular club, one whose influence stretches around the globe but is concentrated strategically in the highest corridors of power. More than half its members, at least by one count, are Jewish.




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Then the Jesuits are Zionists too, not really hard is it.

The mistake people make is assuming Zionism means Jews/Israel, some times this is deliberate so they can slander you with the antisemite label.

Zionism is the New World Order.



David Ben Gurion, Israeli PM Jan 16 1962

zionists are under vatican control
YES they work for THE NWO
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YES they work for THE NWO
Zionists control the vatican
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Zionists control the vatican
NO they don't

that is complete rubbish
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Masonic, Talmudic, Pro Nazi, Pro Pope,

Pro Wahhabic Neo Islamic, Anti Son of God, CFR- controlled, Zionist Government of the Nation of Israel



The Jesuit General – 1540

(Controlling the Papacy and its Hierarchy – 1814)



International Shriner Freemasonry – 1800
(Supreme Council of the 33rd Degree)



Protestant British Throne and Empire – 1800
(King George III; Queen Victoria)



Masonic Jewish Zionism – 1890s
(English Masonic House of Rothschild; Theodor Herzl)



The Unjust Dreyfus Affair – 1894-1906
(Chief of the French General Staff was

guided by his Jesuit Confessor.)



Balfour Declaration – 1918
(Masonic Chaim Weizmann;

“Palestine” a Homeland for the Jews)





(How do we Jesuits get the Jews of Europe to move to Palestine so that they can build the Temple for our future Jesuit Pontiff?)





Second Thirty Years’ War – 1914-1945
(Vengeance for the Nineteenth Century;

The Order’s “Century of Disaster”)



Jewish Holocaust – 1933-1945
(Knight of Malta Joseph J. Larkin, Chase Bank
Jesuit SS General Heinrich Himmler
Jesuit Temporal Coadjutor and assistant to Himmler

Traditionalist Roman Catholic Dr. Richard Korherr;

Masonic Zionist Rudolf Kastner, Hungarian Judenrat

Masons Roosevelt, Churchill and Stalin

forbade Immigration or Emigration to Palestine)



Papal Caesar’s Communist United Nations Created – 1945

(Shriner American President Harry Truman signs the Charter in the city of San Francisco controlled by the Jesuits since 1850.)



Pius XII’s Communist United Nations passes Resolution 181 [II] – 1947

(Six months prior to Israel’s Declaration of Statehood, Jerusalem was made a “body of separate covenant” as distinguished from Israel and all other nations to be under the UN Charter.)



Israel a Nation – 1948
(Proclaimed by Freemason Chaim Weizmann; Recognized by Shriner American President Harry Truman in eleven minutes; Aided by the Masonic Grand Mufti of Jerusalem who ordered 650,000 Arab Palestinians to flee the land resulting in a Zionist victory.)



Pius XII’s Communist United Nations passes Resolution 194 [III] – 1948

(U.N. Trusteeship Council is given full authority over Jerusalem; this will be enforced after the present World War III during the building of the third Hebrew Temple for the coming risen Papal Antichrist.)



Israel admitted into the Papal Caesar’s United Nations – 1949

(Jesuit Coadjutor Francis Cardinal Spellman rallies his South American dictators to vote in favor of Israel with the intention of Jerusalem being declared to be an international city for the Papacy.)



Central Intelligence Agency creates the Mossad – 1951
(Zionists are trained by the Nazis of Hitler’s Intelligence Chief, Roman Catholic Knight of Malta Reinhard Gehlen, to work in conjunction with KGB-trained Yassir Arafat bringing truly anti-Zionist Arab enemies to the forefront through acts of violence encouraged by the Pope’s CIA justifying their execution by the Mossad, it being an arm of the Black Pope’s International Intelligence Community.)



Jerusalem is liberated by the beloved Hebrew/Jewish People,

But is captured by the Pope’s Masonic Jewish Zionists – 1967

(The Six-Day War is a success thanks to the help of the Black Pope’s Masonic, Wahhabi, pro Nazi, Neo Islamic Arabic leaders.)



Israel’s Zionists give the Old City of Jerusalem to the Vatican – 1993

(On September 10, 1993, the Italian newspaper La Stampa reported that then Foreign Minister, Freemason and Jesuit trained Shimon Peres concluded a secret deal with Pope John Paul II. Peres promised to internationalize Jerusalem, granting the U.N. political control of the Old City of Jerusalem and the Vatican hegemony over the Temple Mount. This was an act of high treason against the risen Son of God’s beloved Hebrew/Jewish/Israelitish People.)



The Papal Caesar recognizes the Nation of Israel – 1993

(On December 30, 1993, Israeli – Vatican Relations formally begin with “The Fundamental Agreement Between The Holy See and The State of Israel” in “normalizing relations between Catholics and Jews.” This was a formal payback for deeding the Old City to the Papacy.)



World War III begins – 2001

(The Jesuit General with his Military Company of Jesus, in control of George W. Bush, Tony Blair, Saddam Hussein, Osama bin Laden and the Wahhabic Neo Islamic King of Saudi Arabia, will destroy the holy places of Islam including Mecca, Medina and Jerusalem's Dome of the Rock enabling the Third Hebrew Temple to be built.)
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Dear Friends and Brethren,

The following article is written by my friend, Barry Chamish, whom I consider to be the foremost authority on both the past and present state of affairs within Israel today. I highly recommend the reading of his several books, as they sustain the fact that the Pope of Rome has controlled the Zionist, anti-Torah, Socialist-Communist government of the Nation of Israel from its inception - to the detriment, pain, and heartbreak of the beloved Hebrew/Jewish/Israelites people of the Most High within and without the nation.

In light of my research, his article simply put is as follows: the Pope's Masonic Jewish Zionists, including those racially half-Jews known as "Sabbateans," are merely the open, visual agents of the Black Pope in fulfilling his wicked Council of Trent in making the Pope the "Universal Monarch of the World" ruling from Jerusalem's soon-to-be-built Third Hebrew Temple. The fulfillment of the Order's Council of Trent (upheld by every Pope since its conclusion in 1563) means the deliberate mass-murder of historic "heretic" Reformation Protestants, pre-Reformation Baptists, racial and religious Jews, as well as "liberal" anti-Communist, anti-Jesuit, anti-Masonic Roman Catholics.

In giving examples illustrating the above point, history attests to the mass-murder of six hundred thousand, anti-Jesuit, Roman Catholic French Vendee by the Order's great Masonic avenger - Napoleon Bonaparte. This is why the Order, in control of the Masonic Islamic Young Turks, murdered over one million "heretic" non-Roman Catholic, Orthodox Armenian Christians (many of whom were racial Jews, as were the "Roma" Gypsies having been exterminated in Nazi Death Camps deep within the forests of Roman Catholic Poland) during World War I - the beginning of the Black Pope's Second Thirty Years' War (1914-1945). This is why, in returning the Russian Orthodox Church to the "One Shepherd" of Rome, the Jesuit "Society of the Perfect" murdered over two million Russian Orthodox people and overthrew the Orthodox Romanoff Dynasty during its Bolshevik Revolution and ensuing five-year Civil War. This is why the Sons of Loyola used their occult SS - patterned after the Jesuit Order by the infamous Bavarian Roman Catholic Jesuit Coadjutor Heinrich Himmler - to murder nearly seven million Jews, tens of millions of non-German Protestant European "Aryans," and tens of millions of Russian "Slavs" during World War II. All these massacres were financed by the Rothschild/Schiff/Warburg Vatican Bankers and/or were openly led half-Jews who, in fact, were mere agents of Jesuit General Ledochowski. Hitler, Himmler, Heydrich, Lenin, Trotsky, and Stalin were all Vatican-controlled, racially half-Jews who worked in conjunction with the Pope's Masonic Jewish Zionists, while murdering millions of "perfidious Jews" so surnamed by the Pope's Canon Law.

As of 1946, the Professed of the Fourth Vow Luciferian Society of Jesus altered its Constitutions so as to admit Jews into the Company. I contend that Jews were secretly admitted into the Order - at the absolute discretion of the Jesuit General - for two reasons. First, to secretly carry out the Order's Council of Trent committing horrible atrocities in the name of Communism, Fascism, and Zionism. Payback would be the breakup of the Ottoman Empire and the transfer of Palestine and Jerusalem's Temple Mount to the control of the Pope's Masonic Jewish (truly anti-Jewish) Zionists. In turn, the Pope's "Court Jews" of Israel would deed back the Temple Mount to the Papacy in 1993. Later, the Pope's CFR-controlled American Jewish Zionists would aid the Order's Knight of Malta and former Director of the CIA, George J. Tenet, in demolishing the World Trade Center and then igniting a "War Against Islam," intending to ultimately destroy the Mosques now legally on the Pope's Temple Mount.

The Second reason the Sons of Loyola have admitted Jews into the Order is more ominous and deadly than the average Jew or Gentile can imagine. The Pope's Masonic Jewish Zionists, covertly overseen and controlled by the Society of Jesus (while they overtly finance and/or direct the Company's bloody revolutions during the last two centuries), have knowingly, and willingly, and purposely, and consciously, betrayed and framed the Jews of America and the world, in cunningly creating worldwide anti-Jewish fury so necessary to the culmination of the Pope's Anglo-American-led Crusade and the coming international rule of Antichrist. It is for this reason that during "the time of Jacob's trouble," the coming Great Tribulation to last 1260 days, the LORD from heaven will cry out to all the Jews on earth:

"Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers
of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues."

Revelation 18:4


May the elect remnant of Jews, about to inherit salvation in Messiah, come out of the Mother Of Harlots today and believe the true gospel as preached by the Jewish Apostle Peter when he said in Acts 3:10-12:

"Be it known to you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of
Jesus Christ [Joshua the Messiah] of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom
God raised form the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you
whole.

This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become
the head of the corner [Psalm 118: 22],

Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under
heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved."


For Isaiah 62:11 declares:

"Behold, the LORD hath proclaimed unto the end of the world,
Say ye to the daughter of Zion,

Behold thy salvation [Yeshua] cometh;
behold, HIS reward is with HIM,
and HIS work before HIM."


My comments are in brackets and in Blue,

Brother Eric




KERRY, GAZA AND THE NEW JEWISH SABBATEAN HOLOCAUST

by Barry Chamish
In the first week of February 2004, two related incidents occurred in Israel and America. Prime Minister Sharon announced his decision to evacuate the Jewish residents of Gaza and John Kerry won enough primaries to just about settle the issue of who will be the Democratic Party candidate in the upcoming American elections.

Here are a few less than publicized facts about Kerry:

- He is a graduate, like both President Bushes, of the occult Yale University cabal, the Skull And Bones Society.

[Half-Jew Roman Catholic John Kerry, J.D., was later educated in the law by Jesuits at their Boston College.]

So whoever Americans vote for, they get the same secret society determining their lives. - Kerry, like Howard Dean, Wesley Clark and Joe Leiberman are all members of the Council On Foreign Relations (CFR). So whoever Americans choose to be the Democratic candidate, they will get the same CFR agenda.

- The well publicized CFR agenda insists on Israel withdrawing from Gaza, Judea and Samaria and half of Jerusalem, making Israel unviable as a state. To that end, like Dean before him, Kerry has promised to appoint Jimmy Carter (CFR) or Bill Clinton (CFR) as his administration's Middle East advisor.

[The Pope's CFR-Roadmap (Roadblock) agenda is intended to create a war within Israel that will result in the destruction of the Temple Mount Mosques enabling the Third Temple to be built - for the Pope.]

- Not that Kerry will receive any new advice from either of them, since his campaign manager is Alan Solomant, an executive of Peace Now - America.

- Kerry is being protected from exposure of the ugly crime of participating in a massacre in Viet Nam.

- But as his prominence grew, so did the investigation of his past. And what did we recently discover; why Kerry is Jewish on his father's side. Somehow, he forgot the fact that his grandparents were prominent Jewish business people in Prague and that his father is 100% Jewish. Ask yourself, do you know anyone who doesn't know his father's religious background?

As rare as it must be, that affliction runs rampant in CFR circles. Former CFR Secretary-of-State Madeleine Albright also forgot that both her parents were Jews, even though she was raised in the Jewish home of her relatives in London.

If you don't feel like voting for Kerry, there is Wesley Clark waiting in the wings. Uncannily, he is also a CFR member who only discovered his father was Jewish while he was burning Bosnia to ashes.

[Bosnia is composed of non-Papal Orthodox Serbs condemned by the Order's Council of Trent. As the Order used its SS Croatian Muslim Division in killing Tito's Orthodox Serbs during World War II, so it is now using Albanian Muslims to continue the same genocide pursuant to the Council of Trent.]

Now how come, no matter which Democrat you choose, you get a CFR half-Jew who forgot all about it? The answer is found in the Sabbatean (also Shabbataian and similar spellings) policy of having their Jewish apostate followers converting and hiding their roots and beliefs.

Allow me to quickly summarize Sabbateanism/Frankism:

In my previous article, "The Deutsch Devils", I revealed the findings of Rabbi Antelman in his books To Eliminate The Opiate Volumes I and II. His focus is the false messiah Shabtai Zvi, and the continuation of his evil ministry through the Turkish sect called the Donmeh. In the eighteenth century, Jacob Frank brought the Donmeh ideology to Europe and joined a fateful alliance. This was described in the article as:

Frankfurt at the time was the headquarters of the Jesuit, Adam Weishaupt, founder of the Illuminati, as well as Rothschild Brothers' financial empire. This is worth repeating: Frankfurt was the birthplace of both the Illuminati and the Rothschild empire.

[The Jesuit General Ricci's Illuminati was born in the Pope's ancient stronghold of Bavaria, Southern Germany. Nonetheless, the alliance between the Rothschilds and the Jesuit Order was completed by 1776.]

When Jacob Frank entered the city, the alliance between the two had already begun. Weishaupt provided the conspiratorial resources of the Jesuit Order, while the Rothschilds contributed the money. What was missing was a means to spread the agenda of the Illuminati and that the Frankists added with their network of agents throughout the Christian [non-Christian Roman Catholic; Christian Protestant] and Islamic worlds.

Jacob Frank became instantly wealthy because he was given a nice handout by the Rothschilds of Frankfurt. There is no other explanation.

And from this starting point, Rabbi Antelman gave us a blueprint for the war against Judaism and all its good, and indeed against humanity and all its moral treasures. A movement of complete evil now took hold. The Jesuits' goal was the destruction of the Protestant Reformation leading to a return of one pope sitting in judgment on all mankind. The Rothschilds goal was to control the wealth of the planet. And the Frankist vision was the destruction of Jewish ethics [Torah-based Judaism] to be replaced by a religion based on the exact opposite of God's intentions. When these factions blended, a bloody war against humanity, with the Jews on the front lines, erupted and it is reaching its very pinnacle at this moment.

Rabbi Antelman traces the means of the worldwide reach of this ugliness. By the 1770s, the Illuminati was exposed and banned in Germany and then throughout Europe. Weishaupt made a strategic change that worked miracles for the international spread of his goals. He infiltrated agents into the Freemasonic lodges of England and Scotland, changing their highest tenets to his own, until every lodge in every nation accepted them. Thus, the Illuminati now had two centers of activity, Germany and Britain [and France, as Weishaupt joined the Grand Orient Lodge in Paris in 1777].

Before diving into the proofs that Israel is being set up for another Sabbatean Holocaust [as foretold by Isaiah 28:14-18], permit me the liberty of explaining the inspiration for this piece. On February 1/04 I visited Gefen Books in Jerusalem to pick up some copies of my Hebrew book, Who Murdered Yitzhak Rabin and David Morrison's book, Lies - The Rabin Assassination And Israel's Secret Service.

Dr. Morrison's book has made a powerful case for a conspiracy behind the Rabin assassination. One of the favors he did for me was, as a psychiatric doctor, confirming that my analysis of Rabin's medical records was the correct one. Though I had met him just once, he has aided my cause enormously.

That time I met him was in my home when he and Gefen publisher, Ilan Greenfield arrived to hear me out and decide whether to publish a Hebrew edition of my Rabin book, or not. Ilan told me something I didn't know. "If it wasn't for David, I would never have published your book. I left your place and told him you were coocoo. He answered that if I didn't publish your book, he'd never talk to me again. As a psychiatrist he watched you carefully and concluded you were totally sane. He told me, "He thinks differently than us, that's why he can see how the truth works. That's not called crazy, it's called gifted."

I told Ilan that without knowing how much I owed him, I had repaid David many times over by reviewing Lies in my book, The Last Days Of Israel, and by selling lots of copies of the book in Hebrew and English at my lectures. Ilan's eyes lit up and he said, "Do you know we published two other books by him? Maybe you could promote them as well." He then showed me the books. He chose to display the newest book first. It is called, The Gush, and it is very relevant to today's impending withdrawal from Gush Katif. This book tells the human story of the Jewish residents of Gush Etzion, also secretly on the chopping block no matter what Sharon says.

It was a nice book, I told Ilan, but my readers expect deep information from me. Then he showed me the other Morrison book, Heroes, Antiheroes And The Holocaust. I struck gold.

David Morrison's book on the secrets of the Holocaust stands with Perfidy, The Transfer Agreement and The Scared And The Doomed as one of the great studies of how Labor Zionism prevented the rescue of European Jewry. Morrison doesn't see this as policy but you will with the knowledge we have gained together.

Morrison doesn't realize that he is reporting a Sabbatean massacre, yet he instinctively writes about the Young Turks. We begin and end our overview with that subject. I will add my comments beginning and ending with two stars **.

** The First Sabbatean Holocaust - The Dry Run **

pp 48 - The [Jesuit-controlled, Masonic] Young Turks who led the 1908 revolution were Turkish nationalists and established secular institutions, overthrowing the religious [anti-Jesuit, Sunni] Moslem order. They viewed [anti-Pope, Eastern Orthodox] Armenians as a direct threat to their revolutionary plans. The evidence is overwhelming that the massacre of the Armenians was a deliberate, planned genocide [pursuant to the Council of Trent].

The Young Turks allied themselves with Germany and used world War I as a cover for their slaughter of Armenians... As did the Nazis in World War II, the Turks used their intended victims as slave laborers building a trans-Turkish railway for German business interests.

** And who were these Young Turks who organized The Armenian genocide? We turn to Sabbatean Messianism as Proto-Secularism: M. Avrum Ehrlich for the answer. **

The extent to which Jews were involved in the Young Turk revolution is debated, some arguing that Jews and Donme dominated the Committee of the Union and Progress Party (C.U.P) which gained control of the State. Others argue that this was anti-Semitic rhetoric and exaggerated and that while the Jews supported the revolution on a grass roots level, they were not highly represented in the upper echelons of the party. Indeed, British diplomats did report to the home office that a Jewish-Masonic conspiracy was at work favouring the revolution [as would later transpire in Orthodox Russia]. The Donme are believed to have been equally involved in the revolution but exact details are less known due to a number of reasons...It was via the Masonic lodges that the Donme, the Jews, Bektashi and secularists who were less accepted in mainstream society were able to meet on an equal footing, many of them becoming major instruments of the revolution...Whether the suspicions that Masonry is responsible for sedition and subversive activities are true or not, in this context they were a convenient home for the revolution, providing lodges and personnel, secrecy and structures for the revolution [thus duplicating the Order's Masonic French Revolution in 1789]. The Donme thrived in the Masonic environment, allowing them to be both secretive and influential, maintaining their religious ideas in a non-dogmatic atmosphere. Bridging the gap between the Jews and the Muslims [linking Masonic Jewish leadership with Masonic Muslim leadership evidenced in the Middle East today, the late Prime Minister Rabin and King Hussein of Jordan having been hailed as "Masons of Peace"], they seemed to represent the happy medium of the secular Young Turk revolution. Even today Donme are involved in the Masonic Lodof Turkey. Sahir Talat Akev of the Kapanci-Izmir group of Donme was the Grand Master of the Masons until his death in 1999.

Dr Nazim, Nuzhet Faik, Mustafa Arif, Muslihiddin Adil, Sukru Bleda, Halide Edip Adivar and Ahmet Emin Yalman were all active in the Young Turks and of Donme families. Mehmet Kapanci (1839-1924) who was a mayor of Salonica and a well-known banker funded the C.U.P and was a Donme. Other Jews active in the Young Turks were Nissim Mazliah from Izmir and Vitali Faradji , Moise Cohen (later called Munis Tekinalp) who was an active Jew and once rabbinical student who turned to business and actively asserted a proud Turkish identity along with Zionist sentiments...It is curious that Israel's first and second Prime Ministers, [Masonic] David Ben Gurion and Moshe Sharett and her second president Yitzchak Ben Zvi had lived and studied in Istanbul and embraced the concept lehitatmen, Hebrew for "to become an Ottoman". Ben Zvi is alleged by some to be descendent of a Sabbatean family. Sharett served in the Ottoman army in WW1. Ben Gurion gave up Russian citizenship for Ottoman citizenship, something many others in Palestine were afraid to do. Israeli Presidents Ben Zvi, Zalman Shazar and to a lesser degree Yitzchak Navon became students of Ottomanism.

Mehmet Cavit Bey (1875-1926) was one of the most significant Donme political figures. He was active in the revolution as a highly articulate editor of a tabloid and professor of finance and was three times Finance Minister of Modern Turkey until his execution for his alleged role in the assassination attempt of Ataturk. ]Ataturk was completely in the hands of the Jesuits. Like Fidel Castro, Ataturk would be protected at all costs]. It is believed that Cavit Bey was an ardent Zionist and saw the advantages for Turkey in the Jewish settlement of Palestine.

No less today than in the early days of its activities, secular Zionism and the Israeli Left in particular show distinctive utopian aspirations that in many ways resemble forms of religious Jewish messianism, oddly enough bolstered by an almost religious dogmatism. Despite a declared and articulate opposition to conservative orthodoxy and religious messianism, this group seems to have unconsciously adopted many messianic characteristics and uses almost religious symbolism to address its message [like the occult "Star of David" called in Amos 5:26, "the star of your god which ye made to yourselves."]. In contrast with the early Zionists whose goal was a secular political messianism aimed at establishing a political State and securing sovereign territory by force of arms as an essential premise, the latter manifestation of the Israeli Left has more mystical messianic leanings. On one hand, the Israeli Left [its open anti-popish policy] acknowledges its national aspirations for Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel, but on the other hand, it [its secret pro-popish policy] ]supports extreme territorial compromise with Israel's enemies [in order to further justify interventionist Papal diplomacy]. These two values are often perceived to negate one another [as those two policies are cunningly intended to deceive the innocent observer]. In a situation which is quite possibly un-resolvable in real-politick, it is however, considered entirely possible and likely in the paradigm of peace that the Leftist movement professes. Most interesting is the movement's choice of messianic terminology when describing the peace process with Israel's Arab neighbours, including a new world order in the Middle East, an uncanny political rendition of the messianic kingdom of heaven on earth.

[This language justifies the rule of the Pope's Masonic anti-Jewish Zionists, they having aided and abetted the Pope's Nazi SS leadership during the Jewish Holocaust, to the exclusion and elimination of truly patriotic Jewish leaders such Rabbi Meir Kahane, who angerly exclaimed, "the Zionists have hijacked Israel." For Kahane's truthfulness and courage he was assassinated by a Moslem secretly handled by the Pope's CIA. The Kahane assassination further proves the link between the Pope's SS/CIA and its creation - the Masonic Islamic International Wahhabi-led Terrorist Network known as "Al Qaeda."]

Most interesting is the extreme anti-nomian nature of the Israeli Left Wing. A new dimension to anti-nomianism was created in this mutation of messianism that extended beyond the rejection of Jewish ritual into a form of national anti-nomianism. There existed an overwhelming pressure on believers amongst the Israeli Left not only to neglect Jewish tradition but a fundamental imperative to forfeit Jewish sovereignty particularly over Jewish religious sites (Cave of Joseph, Cave of Machpela, Temple Mount) by which peace was directly achievable.

Furthermore, a curious similarity between the Israeli Left and the Sabbatean movement is illustrated in the Left's strong public ties with Arabs and Islam while privately rejecting and even despising their lifestyle, morality and habits. Stark similarities are evident with the Donmeh who showed great public affection with Islam but amongst themselves entirely rejected and even despised Islam. This, of course, is not so much because of causal influences that Sabbateanism had on Zionism but rather because the same impulses and mechanisms active in both groups. Their belief that assimilation was an important utopian/messianic goal is therefore argued to be a motivation in both Sabbatean and Left Wing Zionist messianism.

[This same policy of the Jesuit Order is being forced upon the White Protestant nations of the West. Coerced amalgamation leading to miscegenation between Whites and Blacks, and thus the mongrelization and browning of historic Reformed nations, is producing a White Protestant Holocaust. Protestant White Rhodesia (Zimbabwe) and Protestant White South Africa - along with their Jewish communities - are finished, as hundreds of Whites are being murdered every month. This same Holocaust will continue in North America unless a group of White Calvinist Reformed peoples secede from the Empire and form their own nation once again.]

** M.A. Ehrlich's great accomplishments include verifying Rabbi Antelman's grand conspiracy involving the British rites of Freemasonry but exceeds Rabbi Antelman in the strong evidential connections to Labor Zionism and today's Israeli Left. They are being guided to acquiesce in a new Israeli Holocaust, no less than the American leaders of Labor Zionism and the Left did so acquiesce in the 30s and 40s. For a revealing look at modern American Sabbateanism, visit: http://www.donmeh-west.com/# **

The Rothschild Connection

** Kerry and Clark are not the only world leaders who deliberately forgot their Jewish fathers. Numerous sources have claimed that Adolph Hitler's real father was a Rothschild and this assertion is not off the wall. Hitler's mother was working as a maid on a Rothschild estate when her son was conceived either through an affair or rape. No less an authority as the History Channel, in a Jan./04 series on dictators, revealed that Hitler razed the Austrian town he was born in, "to destroy all hints of his Jewish father."

Could Hitler have been a Sabbatean?

The initial financiers of Labor Zionism and Theodore Herzl were barons of the Rothschild clan. Their goal was the creation of a state in the image of their Sabbatean beliefs: that is, anti-Torah, anti-Talmudic, anti-religious and anti-Jewish. To the Sabbateans, any Jew who does not accept anti-Judaism is fit for execution. Israel has chosen morality and God, and that means execution is the correct punishment.

Rabbi Antelman is not alone in tracing the Rothschild path to an American financial takeover. Hundreds, if not thousands, of researchers have proven that the European Rothschilds sent their German agents of the Schiff, Astor and Warburg families to serve the interests of the cabal formed by the [Jesuit General in control of] Jesuit Illuminati, British Freemasonry and Sabbateanism.

We return to David Morrison's book to have a look at who was conducting the affairs of American Jews during the Holocaust era.

pp. 36-37 - "The leading figures were Judge Mayer Sulzberger, Louis Marshall, Cyrus Adler and Jacob Schiff. Schiff was the towering figure of that group that, to a large degree, represented wealthy American Jews of German background. Louis Marshall was named president of the JDC, and Schiff's son-in-law Felix Warburg, the treasurer. Warburg soon became chairman.

** In the 1940s, the Warburg connection to Hitler was exposed in a startling book by one of their own, Sidney Warburg. He wrote that he was sent to Hitler's court to finance Hitler's rise with American funds funneled through the Warburg banking operation in Hamburg. For further confirmation, read Anthony Sutton's, Wall Street And the Rise of Hitler. And who was Felix Warburg allied to but Chaim Weizmann? (Later President of Israel) **

]Both were 33rd Degree Jewish Freemasons intent on rebuilding Solomon's Temple. Weizmann's American brother Mason of the 33rd Degree was President "Dirty Harry" Truman, creator of the Airborne Nuclear War Hoax, the Cold War Hoax, the Pope's Central Intelligence Agency and a most obedient servant of "the American Pope,"Knight of Columbus Francis Cardinal Spellman.]

pp 63 - When traveling to America Weizmann and his wife enjoyed the company of Felix Warburg and his wife Frieda.

pp 40 - The power behind the group that made up the JDC and American Jewish Committee was Jacob Schiff.

[Jacob Schiff, according to his son, helped to finance the Black Pope's Bolshevik Revolution to the tune of twenty million dollars in gold. This is another example of the Pope's "Court Jews" financing the Jesuit General's many revolutions.]

From a wealthy banking family in Germany, he joined Kuhn Loeb in New York in 1873. In 1875 he won the hand in marriage of the daughter of Solomon Loeb and a full partnership in the firm. His specialty was railroad finance. Working with E.H. Harriman, he acquired the Union Pacific Railroad in 1897.

[The Jesuits were busy uniting both the East and West Coasts via the railroads in creating the Pope's "Holy Roman" Fourteenth Amendment American Empire. The Company had just finished its brutal "ethnic cleansing" known as the Indian Wars of the Great Plains, or, more properly, America's First Thirty Years' War (1865-1895). By 1901 the Order, via Freemason Theodore "Rex" Roosevelt, would begin to restore the Pope's Temporal Power around the world using the fearless American Military and high finance of the Rockefellers, the Schiffs and the Morgans. In 1913 these American Vatican Bankers would create the Pope's Federal Reserve Bank - the biggest bank in the world!]

** Now we dive into the bowels of the plot. Schiff backed the Rockefeller railroad interests, which led ultimately to the foundation of the CFR in 1921 by the same J.D. Rockefeller. E.H. Harriman was the company Prescott Bush (George Jr.'s grandfather), was working for when he funneled millions of dollars to Hitler. This connection has been documented by numerous writers including Anthony Sutton and John Loftus. The Rothschild method was to identify crooked robber barons and promise them total wealth and control, if they would follow and promote the Illuminati/Sabbatean line. The CFR is the diplomatic arm guiding America and the world into a global Satanism. And no matter who the American voter chooses, he gets the CFR and more. If Bush wasn't elected last time around, Al Gore would have been president. His daughter is married to the grandson of Jacob Schiff, assuredly meaning he is Sabbatean.

Rabbi Antelman asserts that the Sabbateans sent more than financiers from Germany to infiltrate American Jewry. He insists the Conservative, and moreso, the Reform Movements, are tools used to draw American Jews away from their traditions and into the arms of the Sabbateans. **

pp 39 - Judah Magnes confessed without provocation that in Berlin he had been converted to Orthodoxy and he knew Theodore Herzl.

pp 41 - All three groups courted Judah Magnes for a leadership role. Schiff was a major supporter of the Reform Temple Emanu-El in New York but he and Felix Warburg also contributed to the Jewish Theological Seminary. Solomon Schechter, who came from England in 1902 to become president of the seminary, lent his support and prestige to the Zionist cause.

** "We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent." -- Statement made before the United States Senate on Feb. 7, 1950 by James Paul Warburg ("Angel" to and active in the United World Federalists), son of Paul Moritz Warburg, nephew of Felix Warburg and of Jacob Schiff, both of Kuhn, Loeb & Co. which poured millions into the Russian Revolution through James' brother Max, banker to the German government. **

** Sabbatean Labor Zionism concocted a dreadful tradeoff with the Nazis, which resulted in 50,000 indoctrinated German Jews escaping to Palestine from 1933 to 1939. The 3 million Jews of Poland were too religious to join the enterprise. [Further, according to one source, there were over 300 Messianic Jewish assemblies among the Polish Jews at that time. Assuredly, the Pope's "Court Jews" would never allow those "heretic" Jews to enter Palestine but rather they would be sent to the Death Camps.] And those who weren't religious largely supported the moral and proud scions of Zeev Jabotinsky, known at the time as the Revisionist Zionists. **

[The Order hated Jabotinsky for which reason he was expelled from Israel by Chaim Weizmann, one of the Pope's Masonic anti-Jewish Zionists. Jabotinsky, who died in 1940 near Hunter, New York, was not allowed to be buried in Israel until a much later date. He like Kahane, wanted a sovereign nation of Israel, rather than a "Jewish Sate" run by the Pope's "Court Jews."]

pp 42 - Louis Dembitz Brandeis, an early Zionist leader, protested to the Schiff-Warburg group over the route that Joint Distribution Committee funds took from the United States to Polish Jewry. Millions of dollars were channeled through the Aid Society of German Jews that included Max Warburg. Brandeis protested to Felix Warburg that the German group supported the ban on immigration of Polish Jews into Germany.

pp 47 - At the outset of WWI, Jacob Schiff felt the tug of his German roots. He aided Germany financially and told a friend: "My sympathies are naturally altogether with Germany, as I would think as little to side against my country as I would against my own parents."..Schiff's brother-in-law, Max Warburg, was a German delegate to the economic talks at Versailles. He had discussions with John Foster Dulles...Dulles' brother Allen served in Turkey as assistant to the US High Commissioner. From that post he aided the attempt to cover up the Turkish massacre of the Armenians during the war. His superior, High Commissioner Mark Bristol averred: "The Armenians are a race like the Jews - they have no national spirit and poor moral character."

** There isn't the space to present the machinations of the leaders of American Jewry, so we will focus on just one, the leader of Reform Judaism and the American Jewish Congress, Stephen Wise. His closest friend and correspondent was Felix Frankfurter. Of him, Jerry Rabow in his book, 50 Jewish Messiahs, writes:



"United States Supreme Court Justice Felix Frankfurter is reported to have received a copy of Eva Frank's portrait from his mother, a descendent of the Prague Frankist family."
Here is a quote from Frankfurter:



"The real rulers in Washington are invisible and exercise their power from behind the scenes."-- Justice Felix Frankfurter, U.S. Supreme Court.


Of Stephen Wise, Rabbi Antelman provides this description in To Eliminate The Opiate, Volume II:

"Consider Stephen Wise, head of the Reform movement in the United States during World War II. As the slaughter was going on in Europe, Wise was more interested in his own gratification. Wise was both a Communist and a Sabbatian. That he was a Communist is attested to by Maurice Malkin, a member of the Communist Party who returned to Judaism, in his book Return To My Father's House. Wise was a Sabbatian, as was shown in Helen Rawlinson's book Stranger At The Party. In her chronicle of a sexual encounter with the so-called Rabbi Wise, she describes how Wise had sex with her in his office on his conference table, and quoted the verse from Psalms which Sabbatians did when engaged in sexual intercourse." pp 217



Roman Catholic Bishop Francis T. McConnell and Rabbi Stephen S. Wise, 1933

[Zionist Stephen Wise, a personal friend of Chaim Weizmann, was also the mutual friend and co-worker of the Roman Catholic Bishop, Francis T. McConnell. Both men were servants of Jesuit-trained Patrick Cardinal Hayes of New York. Later, Jesuit-trained Archbishop Spellman would control Democrat Rabbi Stephen Wise from "the Powerhouse" - St. Patrick's Cathedral in New York. Wise's autobiography, Challenging Years, was completed the year of his death in 1949. Pursuant to Vatican policy, Wise along with 33rd Degree Freemason FDR, refused to come to the rescue of European Jewry perishing at the decree of Pope Pius XII and his Jesuit-led SS.]

** Now follow David Morrison's chronicle of Wise deliberately condemning European Jews to death by torture. Lest you believe today's American Jewish leaders aren't capable of organizing a second Holocaust, always recall the very same process, using carbon copy American Jewish leaders, is at work against Israel at this moment. PM Sharon is simply doing what the CFR tells him to. **

pp 107 - Wise wrote to Albert Einstein displacing blame for Roosevelt's silence on the Nazi atrocities on the Warburgs: "I must say to you in strictest confidence that I saw the President yesterday...His first word was, 'Max Warburg wrote to me lately that things were so bad in Germany that nothing could be done.' The President threw up his hands as if to say, 'Well, if Max thinks nothing can be done, then nothing can be done.'"

[Again, Wise and FDR working for "The Powerhouse" in New York, condemning the Jews of Europe to death.]

pp 110 - Steven Wise circulated, in January, 1937, an internal memorandum to the Governing Councils in the World Jewish Congress making it clear, "in the most emphatic terms that it cannot be a party to any scheme of the Polish government which looks to a place for Polish-German emigrants."

pp 113 - At the same time, he circulated this memorandum, he wrote to a New York congressman who intended to introduce legislation to ease restrictions on emigration to America: "I have every reason to believe that any effort that is made at this time to ease the immigration laws will result in a serious wave of anti-Semitic feeling in this country."

[Wise and FDR refused immigration of European Jews to America, while after the War, thousands of Nazis were given sanctuary in the US under the guise of "fighting godless Jew Communism." One of those Nazis was the Jesuit Coadjutor, SS "Gestapo" Heinrich Muller.]

pp 120 - After Austria fell, Wise met with representatives of the American Jewish Committee and some non-Jewish groups. The meeting came in the wake of an attempt by New York Congressman Samuel Dickstein, to introduce legislation that would allow unused refugee quotas to be allocated to those fleeing Hitler. The gathering agreed unanimously: The organizations represented at the conference will take the position that the proposed legislation is inadvisable."

pp 128 - In the week following Kristallnacht, the British offered to give up most of the 65,000 quota for British citizens to emigrate to the United States to increase places for Jewish refugees. Under Secretary Of State [CFR-controlled] Sumner Welles responded: "I reminded the Ambassador that the President stated there was no intention on the part of his government to increase the quota for German nationals. I added that it was my strong impression that the responsible leaders among American Jews would be the first to urge that no change in the present quota for German Jews be made...The influential Sam Rosenman, one of the "responsible" Jewish leaders sent Roosevelt a memorandum telling him that an "increase of quotas is wholly inadvisable. It will merely produce a 'Jewish problem' in the countries increasing the quota."

pp 129 - The General Jewish Council met the following day and spent hours of debate on an agenda that did not include the Kristallnacht. When the leaders of the American Jewish Congress addressed the issue, they did so by adopting a resolution giving the following advice to their constituents across the country:

"Resolved that it is the present policy of the General Jewish Council that there should be no parades, public demonstrations or protests by Jews." Stephen Wise on American Jewish Congress stationary sent out a report to his members labeled: CONFIDENTIAL. NOT FOR PUBLICATION IN AMY FORM WHATSOEVER: "In behalf of the American Jewish Congress I send you this report clarifying our policy in meeting the present crisis in the life of our fellow Jews in Germany. The silence of the American Jewish Congress should not be regarded as a lack of activity on our part. It is the result of well considered policy."

[Indeed, silence was not only the policy of the Order's American Jewish Congress, but of Pope Pius XII himself. For Hitler's Pope was the master behind the Order's "Final Solution to the Jewish Question." The Vatican's files on Pope Pius XII, censored by the Pope's confessor Jesuit Robert Leiber and three other Jesuits, are still closed to the scrutiny of investigators - just as the CIA files on the Kennedy Assassination are closed to those patriotic Americans who would know the truth.]

pp 145 - In the wake of Kristallnacht, New York Senator Wagner introduced legislation to allow 20,000 German Jewish children into the United States. Stephen Wise testified before the legislation committee: "If there is any conflict between our duty to those children and our duty to our country, our country comes first; and if children cannot he helped, they cannot be helped."...Reynolds saw no difficulty in accommodating the refugee children in the United States. The legislation, without support from the Jewish leadership, got nowhere.

** If the children were not destined from Germany to Palestine, they were not destined to live. The same thing happened when choosing [if] the Polish Jews [were] fit to live. **

pp 154 - A letter to American Jews on United Jewish Appeal stationery continued to support the 'selected' immigration of Jews to Palestine, despite the fact that 3 million Jews were now trapped in Nazi-occupied Poland: "Selectivity is an inescapable factor in dealing with the problem of immigration to Palestine. By selectivity [it] is meant the choice of young men and women who are trained in either agriculture or industry.

pp 178 - During the summer of 1942, Gerhart Riegner sent a cable to the State Department detailing the Nazi plan for exterminating European Jewry. At the behest of Under Secretary Of State [CFR-controlled] Sumner Welles, Wise kept the report secret.

pp 187- In the February, 1943 issue of Wise's American Jewish Congress publication, Opinion, there is an extensive review of the Hitler era to date with articles contributed by 52 people. No one mentioned the word 'rescue.'

pp 200 - When [Roman Catholic Papal Knight] Anthony Eden was in Washington he met with Wise and told him nothing could be done...Eden's private secretary Oliver Harvey noted in his diary: 'Unfortunately, A.E. loves Arabs and hates Jews [which was then and is now the present policy of the Jesuit Order].'

pp 212 - There was an appeal from Italy which stated that an appeal from the pope might stop the deportation of Jews from Italy. The Zionist Emergency Committee did nothing about this matter. A meeting wasn't even called.

[And Pope Pius XII said nothing as further revealed in Rolf Hochhuth's 1963 masterpiece, The Deputy.]

pp 217 - Stephen Wise declared: "We are Americans first. Nothing else that we are, whether by faith or race, qualifies our Americanism...The way to save Jews is to unite the Jewish people behind the victory program of President Roosevelt."

pp 220 - A White House staffer recorded in his diary that, "The President told us from his bedroom that he would not see the delegation of rabbis."... Judge Rosenman, who was also in the bedroom said the group was not representative of the most thoughtful elements in Jewry. Rosenman's statement to Roosevelt that "leading Jews of his acquaintance" opposed the rabbis' march.

pp 227 - While Wise sent private memos clearly stating they thought the rescue of Jews was possible...in public they supported the Roosevelt administration's steadfast assertion that nothing could be done...

pp 230 - Congressman Gillette recalled a visit to his office by Wise and a few of his colleagues:" None of these gentlemen seemed to be enthusiastic for...the saving of the remnant of the Jewish people."

pp 241 - Wise felt strongly that the Gillette legislation did not provide for the "proper type of commission." With all that was known about the obstruction of the Jewish rescue by the State Department [then as now controlled by the Archbishop of New York], Wise was lobbying to leave the issue in their hands...Henry Morgenthau's aide Josiah Dubois uncovered the State Department's policy relevant to the issue of Jewish rescue... The stunning title to the Dubois memorandum was: REPORT TO THE SECRETARY ON THE ACQUIESCENCE OF THIS GOVERNMENT IN THE MURDER OF JEWS...Dubois pointed to the restrictions on visas as, "the most glaring example of the use of the machinery of this government to actually prevent the rescue of Jews."

** David Morrison's conclusions are too generous, but his scholarship is invaluable. He has added an essential contribution to the indisputable fact that America's Jewish leaders, led by Stephen Wise, purposely murdered by proxy, the Jews of Europe.



Rabbi Stephen S. Wise Addressing a Protest Rally in New York, 1933

[Stephen Wise was a mere puppet of the Black Pope in adhering to the secret policy of the Allied leaders -Masons Churchill, FDR and Stalin - who also worked in conjunction with the Order's Axis fascist Roman Catholic dictators - Mason Mussolini and Hitler. That secret policy was the deliberate isolation of European Jewry thus condemning it to the Death Camps of Poland, those six slaughter pens having been financed and built by corporations owned or controlled by Vatican Knights of Malta.]

Now they are working on the Jews of Israel, starting with those of Gaza. **

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The CFR is at work taking over the media of the Israeli patriots. Ronald Lauder of the CFR and his frontman Moshe Ben Zvi have bought out the newspapers Hatsofe and Makor Rishon, as well as the religious TV channel Tchelet. The first thing they did at Tchelet and Makor Rishon was fire the staff and change policies. This week Makor Rishon's editor was ousted and the new management has promised a more "middle of the road" editorial policy.

To prove the Gaza withdrawal is a gesture of war, consider what could have been done. Next door to Gaza is the 36,000 sq. mile Sinai Peninsula, which Egypt has been using to funnel-tunnel weapons against Israel, obviously in contravention of its supposed peace treaty with Israel. The population of the Sinai is under 50,000 and if anyone actually wanted to bring peace to the region, a viable Palestinian state could be established there.

[How true! But the Order's "foreign elite," controlled by the Pope, do not want peace - not quite yet. The withdrawal from Gaza - a land given by God to the tribe of Judah - is not only a gesture but rather a guarantee to another coming war in Israel, as was the Versailles Treaty the foundation for a subsequent war in defeated and plundered apostate Protestant Germany. In further igniting the present Anglo-American-led Papal Crusade against Islam, several CIA-pre-placed nuclear devices will be detonated on US soil in the near future. The Moslems will be blamed via the Order's CIA-controlled Al Qaeda Terrorist Network, and Mecca, Medina and the Jerusalem Mosques will reduced to rubble to the infinite delight of the Black Pope and the White Pope - the successor of the soon-to-be-deceased Pope John Paul II.]
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NO they don't

that is complete rubbish

I disagree
Zionists control the vatican there are Jewish and Christian Zionists. Rothschilds (Zionists) took over much of the Vatican's money they are the vatican Bankers. The last black pope was Ashkenazi Jew (Kolvenbich) and he's not the only Jewish Pope.

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Zionists control the vatican there are Jewish and Christian Zionists. Rothschilds (Zionists) took over much of the Vatican's money they are the vatican Bankers. The last black pope was Ashkenazi Jew (Kolvenbich) and he's not the only Jewish Pope.

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keenly is a jesuits promotion troll who adds nothing to threads apart from ''nonsense'' ''bollox'' ''it's the Jesuits!''
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keenly is a jesuits promotion troll who adds nothing to threads apart from ''nonsense'' ''bollox'' ''it's the Jesuits!''
and you are a disinfo agent then

the jesuits rule over the vatican, the knights of malta and all freemasonary; FACT
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