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Old 01-07-2013, 12:53 PM   #341
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I agree Gusia, my responses are in response to stepanie212 - people need to let it be and just move on! Good to see you back!

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Old 02-07-2013, 09:49 AM   #342
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I agree Gusia, my responses are in response to stepanie212 - people need to let it be and just move on! Good to see you back!
Hello I had exams on my university and some personal stuff, so i wasn't able be here but one exam i will have again at September yet

As for me it's not simply let it be because i like him for who he is and i would like know truth, just not for gossip or tell wrong things about him. Maybe i think about him in too personal way... I don't know. But really some people make drama for turn people against him. I read aticle where was that Pieskw said that Putin hasn't any new woman. Also Kabajewa told that she hasn't child with him, nor she isn't at couple with him. So i'm asking what's going on yet?

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Old 02-07-2013, 10:50 AM   #343
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I agree Gusia, my responses are in response to stepanie212 - people need to let it be and just move on! Good to see you back!
Dear Susannah1
I hope you do not mind my humble question:
If it is not too much effort for you, if you please could kindly and graciously please specify those of your replies that were addressed to me?
I apologize for my obvious stupidity if I did not manage to recognize them as such.

I hope you will kindly forgive me!

Again, thank you so much dear susannah1 if you bother to waste time with answering this request.

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Old 02-07-2013, 01:06 PM   #344
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Sure Stephanie, you just go back and look before gusia's post they are there!, 4 posts as you can see.....You'll notice I agree with you about the homeless children.....there is so much to do to help these kids.... Do you have any ideas about that? I am always of the opinion that discussions and ideas with people can help bring about much needed change for the better.
PS Nothing to forgive- all is good. And you are not stupid-far from it!

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Old 03-07-2013, 04:07 AM   #345
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Interesting article:

http://english.ruvr.ru/2013_07_02/Sn...Russians-0314/


http://en.rian.ru/russia/20130701/18...US--Putin.html


Snowdon might be best to stay put in Russia. After all he has done what he had to do right?......and I conclude that the condition that Putin announced is a good one. Because no one wants a double dealer in their country.
Interesting indeed.....He could stay in Russia safely, but not ever spy again.
So the question is, if you have spied before and you have all this info which is going to reveal the truth of many matters, wouldn't you be relieved that one country would give you sanctuary after all this mammoth effort and wouldn't you want to put it behind you once you had done this?

There are some issues about this situation that need to be resolved and brought forward. I have seen some info on what he has brought forward - here are what I have found so far:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yB3n9fu-rM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyGRh0T0Ej0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSwp55LCEIM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2jT-hB6aDI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg8SfEcB9Ek
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L6J4Jyrxws
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsrEqC2ABlg

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Old 03-07-2013, 09:26 AM   #346
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Interesting article:

http://english.ruvr.ru/2013_07_02/Sn...Russians-0314/


http://en.rian.ru/russia/20130701/18...US--Putin.html


Snowdon might be best to stay put in Russia. After all he has done what he had to do right?......and I conclude that the condition that Putin announced is a good one. Because no one wants a double dealer in their country.
Interesting indeed.....He could stay in Russia safely, but not ever spy again.
So the question is, if you have spied before and you have all this info which is going to reveal the truth of many matters, wouldn't you be relieved that one country would give you sanctuary after all this mammoth effort and wouldn't you want to put it behind you once you had done this?

There are some issues about this situation that need to be resolved and brought forward. I have seen some info on what he has brought forward - here are what I have found so far:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yB3n9fu-rM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyGRh0T0Ej0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSwp55LCEIM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2jT-hB6aDI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg8SfEcB9Ek
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L6J4Jyrxws
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsrEqC2ABlg
It's good that Russia don't want give snowden for USA. Just one thing is weirda for me at one article. Why Putin told that Snowden should stop spread what he knows and don't damage USA? Later he said that Snowden fight for human rghts and democracy etc. It looks like Putin hasn't for this case full opinion against USA as it was in oter cases, just a little for defend USA interests while eeryone knows why USA spy peope at whole world and that it's not agreed with law norms, nor decrees or international agreements. Only it could be agreed at USA because Obama signed decree about arresting human for order president of United States no matter where this human is and who really he/she is but at least this what Obama signed, it's not norml too. And I guess this spy systm was made for this decree.
So i don't understand why Putin said what we see

Edit: Yet one thing. EU teling that they didn't know what USA and UK doing... the same said Barroso and Merkel while Obama told that he taking with these both about everything regarding world policy. So exits are two: they really didn't know, or they just sayng that they didn't know. This everything is crazy...

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Old 03-07-2013, 12:42 PM   #347
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Yes Gusia, I agree with you, there does appear to be some funny stuff going on....usually things become clearer after some time has elapsed...indeed, Putin said to Snowdon that he could stay in Russia as long as he stopped spying on the US, and then said "I know you will find this hard to believe coming from me"...that is a very interesting comment.....I conclude that perhaps, Putin is a thinker and a sayer along the eastern way of thought...maybe what he is really saying is: "You can stay here on these conditions and I have to say this to you, even though I don't personally agree with it"....maybe its something like that?"......

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Old 03-07-2013, 02:25 PM   #348
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He isn't pro western, so for me it really weird. So i don't know what's going on... Maybe he just pretend that he doesn't support USA? Or maybe he doesn't want make argues with USA and expose Russia and it's why he told such things? But I'm not him so i don't know. He often had clear position, but here i don't see it.
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Old 04-07-2013, 12:01 AM   #349
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Yes I agree with you Gusia.....I hope Snowdon has the good sense to stay put in Russia.
Stefanie never came back.....hmmm

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Old 05-07-2013, 11:04 AM   #350
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Putin is providing the vital balance in world power at this time. He is preventing the manipulative and power driven US/UK led western drive for power and control over the world. Russia is enough of a threat militarily to prevent the next atrocity planned for Syria. If he stands his ground we should avert a wider world conflict. Assad has shown wisdom and courage against all odds. The international interference by western allies to de stable his government is against all decent humanity and is the result of manipulation in its worst form. The events that resulted in the overthrow and brutal slaying of Muammar Ghadaffi in Libya cannot be allowed to be repeated in Syria. It is clear and obvious to all right minded free thinking members of the global population that the sacking of Libya was illegal and driven by a desire for control. Despite how some people view Ghaddafi (he was no angel) he definitely provided his country with stability and benefit to his people in terms of housing, healthcare, education and in many other areas and utilised the country's oil wealth for the good of his own nation as well as for others. Unconventional perhaps, controversial by western definition, definitely but nonetheless a true patriot towards his country. He ran the country with a strong hand and as with any political situation the dissenting few threatened the program he set forth in his future plans for Libya and the wider African alliance which, if he had been allowed to pursue, would have been of more benefit to all concerned rather than to their detriment. In Syria, because Assad is his own man and not one of the western puppets he is automatically deemed to be a devil to be removed. This is not right or democratic and is a travesty of international interference which must not be allowed to prevail. A repeat of the Libyan scenario must not be allowed to prevail on the whim of the dictatorial few that for the time being remain in control of our destiny. We the people need to wake up and prevent this from continuing. If an attempt was made to overthrow the leaders of the US or any of its western allies it would result in immediate retaliation. Acting like "bullies in the playground" that the US is demonstrating is not a recipe for world peace. The US in particular have created their own problems and the more this unwelcomed self appointed policing of the world by imposition is allowed to continue the more unpopular they will become. It can only end one way - and that will be to the detriment of all humanity. We all need to wake up and become aware of what is going on and to the threat of our very existence. Hopefully, and it would appear to be so, there is enough strong opposition to the threat that it will not come about.
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Old 06-07-2013, 08:52 AM   #351
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During my research for the Putin thread in the Today's News forum I had to realise how "Western" msm
paint an extremely one-sided picture of this statesman, mainly slamming and throwing dirt at him.

To balance this deliberate misinterpretation and vilification I want to post some pictures which are hardly
to be found the "Western" msm, that show a human and family man instead of a monster.









No "cheesy" American-style smiles but REAL tears (saw it live on tv then) and I like it.


http://eng.putin.kremlin.ru/bio
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Old 06-07-2013, 03:22 PM   #352
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During my research for the Putin thread in the Today's News forum I had to realise how "Western" msm
paint an extremely one-sided picture of this statesman, mainly slamming and throwing dirt at him.

To balance this deliberate misinterpretation and vilification I want to post some pictures which are hardly
to be found the "Western" msm, that show a human and family man instead of a monster.









No "cheesy" American-style smiles but REAL tears (saw it live on tv then) and I like it.


http://eng.putin.kremlin.ru/bio
Sometimes i'm confused through informations about Putin but I like him and respect him. And i agree with this what you said that for real possible Putin isn't like media talking. Good show it these photos. It's why personally i don't look at him only as for politician, but also as for man and maybe father. It's hard for me to explain but it looks like i'm telling.
I saw his tears at TV too and it was touching moment but at least he told that it was because of wind. I remember yet that he cited some writer "if i would have choose so give me back homeland"... i don't remember it exactly how it was said but it was great quote. And i didn't find it later at YT.

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Very informative and good posts, Chartcom, Mensana and Gusia. Thank you,
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Confused... What do you think?
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...-computer-lea/
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Watched this movie last night; makes Russian under Putin look more like a dictatorship

http://putinskissmovie.com/
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Watched this movie last night; makes Russian under Putin look more like a dictatorship

http://putinskissmovie.com/
I see that first i must buy it for watch it, but i watched two tailers at YT. I'm kind a confused because it looks like Putin wanted control her life but here it's not tell why. Can you tell something more what is at this film?
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I see that first i must buy it for watch it, but i watched two tailers at YT. I'm kind a confused because it looks like Putin wanted control her life but here it's not tell why. Can you tell something more what is at this film?
Not so much he wanted to control her life but the training of a youth movement (NASHI) of hundreds of thousands of young people - to the point where they idolised Putin - so reminiscent of Hitler Youth Movement.

Then the onorthodox, downright nasty and overt action by the youth against any political opposition to Putin.

The young lady in question eventually discovers an intellegentsia in the form of some Reporters who slowly show her another side to the political realms she is 'brainwashed' into and when some of the NASHI (Ours) unproved, almost kill one of the reporters who blogs some truths she eventually leaves the movement.

This is a glimpse into how Putin's Russia actually operates and the overt nationalism is rather sickening when imprinted into young people who do not have the maturity or information to make their own informed decision.

Just did a google and found many references:

http://rbth.ru/politics/2013/03/07/p...ped_23621.html

"Vasily Yakemenko, one of the movement’s founders, stated that the Nashi movement viewed Russia “as the historical and geographical center of the world,” the freedom of which is threatened by the “unholy union of communists, fascists and liberals that is fueled by their common hatred of our president, Vladimir Putin.” ....

http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com...-private-army/


I watched the movie on Netflix
...http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/70...FRMctAodiDIAuw


We might all want Putin to be a hero, a president with character and integrity but Im afraid that is not the case. The politics are no better or worse than most other countries in the western world. Hope you get to see it and would love to have your opinion on it if you are a resident of the state.
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Not so much he wanted to control her life but the training of a youth movement (NASHI) of hundreds of thousands of young people - to the point where they idolised Putin - so reminiscent of Hitler Youth Movement.

Then the onorthodox, downright nasty and overt action by the youth against any political opposition to Putin.

The young lady in question eventually discovers an intellegentsia in the form of some Reporters who slowly show her another side to the political realms she is 'brainwashed' into and when some of the NASHI (Ours) unproved, almost kill one of the reporters who blogs some truths she eventually leaves the movement.

This is a glimpse into how Putin's Russia actually operates and the overt nationalism is rather sickening when imprinted into young people who do not have the maturity or information to make their own informed decision.

Just did a google and found many references:

http://rbth.ru/politics/2013/03/07/p...ped_23621.html

"Vasily Yakemenko, one of the movement’s founders, stated that the Nashi movement viewed Russia “as the historical and geographical center of the world,” the freedom of which is threatened by the “unholy union of communists, fascists and liberals that is fueled by their common hatred of our president, Vladimir Putin.” ....

http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com...-private-army/


I watched the movie on Netflix
...http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/70...FRMctAodiDIAuw


We might all want Putin to be a hero, a president with character and integrity but Im afraid that is not the case. The politics are no better or worse than most other countries in the western world. Hope you get to see it and would love to have your opinion on it if you are a resident of the state.
I will watch it maybe later. This what i know now without watch it yet- Putin goes to nationalism because he doesn't want foreign citizens that will prey and sell off Russa, like it was at Jeltsyn times. If he would allow for it so for sure Russia and USA would be best friends and Russia would be more and more poor. Also he doesn't want accept too much laws that are spread through world's policy because not everything is good. Also fact is that possible protests were paid because few guys getting crazy that they can't take money like they did it when president of Russia was Jeltsyn.
I'm not resident there but i like and respect Putin. I learned few things about policy from him. Sometimes i wondering for work there, but possible it's just think that will never happend.

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I will watch it maybe later. This what i know now without watch it yet- Putin goes to nationalism because he doesn't want foreign citizens that will prey and sell off Russa, like it was at Jeltsyn times. If he would allow for it so for sure Russia and USA would be best friends and Russia would be more and more poor. Also he doesn't want accept too much laws that are spread through world's policy because not everything is good. Also fact is that possible protests were paid because few guys getting crazy that they can't take money like they did it when president of Russia was Jeltsyn.
I'm not resident there but i like and respect Putin. I learned few things about policy from him. Sometimes i wondering for work there, but possible it's just think that will never happend.

Big opposition demonstrations in Moscow. Putin's reign may not be as secure as he would like.
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I think he will be fine. He is bringing Russia out of the dark ages, or rather, removing the darkness and the blindfolds. Not an easy thing to do. Gorbachev started it.


http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=130325&page=1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Putin
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