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Old 12-12-2009, 05:37 PM   #81
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I want to put some thoughts out here and would welcome any feedback that anyone has researched or gleened from their own experience or intuition or point me towards threads that have come up on this subject please.

Is it possible that the reptilian hybrids here in the 2D are in "boxes" of their own, and that the ones "in charge" of them on another dimension, some say the 5D, are fundamentally controlling them from that dimension? That they are "puppets" themselves acting out a vendetta if you will for their race against our race? Would that not cause problems within their ranks?

I mean I am not saying that this reptilian race representing from the 5D here in 2D (aka as the niphilim race) does not have a hierarchy that may seem to shift and seem to change structure but are they themselves anything more then puppets? Many of us believe they use mind control programming techniques, and AI cloning to carry out their agenda, and of course they are controlled as well.

Also given the fact that they seem to be thowing so much at us now and in such quick succession to disrupt our bioelectromagnetic fields internally ( i.e. GM foods, tetra systems, cell phones, vaccinations with possible nanotechnological receivers installed, fraken food formulations, etc. ) not to mention crashing world economies, and creating global warminig propoganda for multiple reasons is it possible that time is running out for them to achieve their ultimate goal which is a centralized homogenized everything including a microchipped population?

Some have said a "conscious awakening" is beginning to occur and this controlling race in this dimension fears we are beginning to figure them out like in that movie They Live or better the Matrix. Even though they say time ceases to exist, for the purposes of discussion it seems they are runninng out of time and are throwing everything at us in desperation. Whether this is an environmental change originating from another dimension or whether they simply have a set amount of time to complete their "mission" is one thing I am struggling with.

But I want to be clear I am not saying the ones actually here don't have a hierarchy in place I just think some are equal, like multiple legs on an octopuss, and that they operate from different locations globally. But it seems that even the most "perceived powerful" here ( i.e. rockfellers, rothchilds, pope, etc) are also puppets to their masters from another dimension.

I watched at length the Arizona Wilder interview with David Icke. One thing that stood out for me personally was how there seemed to be in these rituals she described a hierachy in place and even how the Queen Mother when she was here, seemed to "cower" to one particular man in the group, and with others she would not even look at them, viewing them as inferior. So it would seem to me that while they may appear to have a hiearchy in place, they also seem to be at odds and fearful of one another. And while they seem to thrive off of low vibrational energy like fear in sacrificing human beings, they are also in the clutches of this emotional fear vibration themselves.

Also something else that really intrigued me in that interview is how when these ritual sacrifices were taking place and they morphed into their true reptilian forms at the height of emotional excitement, and sacrifice of the human, how they sometimes would, in their frenzied states "strike out blindly" at one another. This means to be that there is a real destabilization and lack of unity within their "group" for lack of a better word and a lack of control. The achilles heel. They have it appears numerous contradictions in behavior rather like our race.

This gives me great belief in the triumph of our race of people over them because I believe there is a lot of infighting and jockeying for position within their ranks. Plus our potential is much greater. The more we are able to throw off the divisions they created for us to pursue their agenda ( religion, perceived gender divisions, racial, socioeconomic class divisions, etc.) the greater our chance to create a better dimension for our children, and grandchildren. At least that is the way I view it.

I also believe our greatest help orginates from within us where all consciousness and knowledge lies. And we help each other with our insights to further expansion of this conciousness that we all are and have ever been.

What are other people's thoughts on this?
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Old 12-12-2009, 05:45 PM   #82
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Okay, you reptilians.
Try this on for size:

NOBODY is "holding the keys" to your prison (body)
EXCEPT yourself.

Want to be free?
BREAK THE CHAINS OF IGNORANCE.

Become illuminated.
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Old 13-12-2009, 03:58 AM   #83
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You are so wrong. So dangerously deceived.

I've stood in the Light of Christ's presence. I've heard His voice. I've seen how even the devil and the demons tremble in His presence, and obey Him. He's healed me of cancer when the doctors said I would die. When He commanded me to refuse the drugs that were supposed to save my life, and I obeyed Him, He healed me - while others around me took the drugs, and died. I pray to Him for all things - to bring people into my path who I need; to remove people from certain situations who shouldn't be there. And always, He answers me - not next week, or next year, but right away. I once asked Him to please remove a person from the room of a dying woman, so I could witness to the dying woman about Him properly. Before I even finished praying, the person got up and left. And the dying woman, who had always believed in false religions and lying spirits, finally turned to Christ and repented of her sins! I've seen how even the winds obey Him.

You? You are deceived. You have been deceived by the same false Christs of the Catholic and Protestant churches, who are all imposters. You think because you're not Catholic or Protestant, then you're not deceived. But who else has given you the idea that the Christ is so powerless, and that the Word of God is without power, but for these imposters even you don't believe in. You prove by your own unbelief that you believe the very imposters you say you don't believe. If you did not believe these imposters, then you would know the power and authority of Christ. As it stands, you are still blind - thinking you can analyze the things that your mind cannot even contain. No mind can contain God, but you believe your mind can. Why? Because the imposters you have believed are so small.

If you wanted the truth, then you would accept the truth. But instead, you do what the Catholic and Protestant churches do - you create a false Chirst for yourself, that suits your whims and desires. Even a human being doesn't like to be told who he is. But yet you believe that men can tell God Who He is, and God will accept it. You are a Protestant church unto yourself.

I wish you knew. I wish I could convince you. But it's between you and God what you will choose to believe. Me, I'm only a witness.


typical my god>your god bs.
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Old 13-12-2009, 04:23 AM   #84
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Here's how i understand it.


Reptilians (Anu)

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Rothschilds

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Black Pope

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Queen

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Pope
The pope shouldn't be on the same list as the black pope, the rothschilds, and the queen. I even doubt the overrated black pope should be on the same list, but certainly not the pope.

Ratzingers father was employed by the habsburgs, he worked for them. Otto v. Habsburg knows Ratzinger from way back. No way Ratzinger is more powerful than any of the big bloodliners. The pope is just an actor, similar to the role of a president. he doesn't hold any real power, his job is to draw attention away from it.
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Old 16-12-2009, 11:46 AM   #85
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Reptilians (Anu)

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Rothschilds

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Black Pope

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Queen

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Pope
Black Pope? Did you just throw that in there as a joke? Anyway the heirarchy doesn't stop at the reptilians. That's kind of a superficial way to put it because it's much more complicated than that. It's vague to say "reptilians" considering the Queen is a shape-shifter herself, unless you mean the full reptilians who don't hold a human form who are just outside this dimension.

I really don't get how these reptilians go up or down in this heirarchy. How do they prove themselves and get higher up? Or is it mainly genetic and whichever reptilians from more respectable breeds are guarranteed a higher echelon of the latter? For instance Icke and others talk about 7 different reptilain races (from Draco at least), each with a different level of status, with the white reptilains with blue eyes being at the top... So is this race-based heirarchy how it all works? Or can a lower reptilian race prove themself to gain status? I'm having a hard time getting a grip on this. It's confusing.

From just Icke's books (assuming he's a reliable source) he keeps pointing out different players in this Illuminati network and who's subordinate to who... He says the Rockefellers are possibly subordinate to the Rothschilds, and the Hapsburgs are high up too. But is this based on the reptilain race heirarchy when they're in their reptilain form? Too many damn questions.
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Old 16-12-2009, 12:15 PM   #86
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Who is in charge? Erm, God is. It's a lie of Satan that suggests the buck stops with him. Read your bible:

13:10 If anyone is meant for captivity, into captivity he will go. If anyone is to be killed by the sword, then by the sword he must be killed. This requires steadfast endurance and faith from the saints.

Tis all God's plan and the faith and endurance is in part remembering this and not falling for the "Satan is in charge of [anything]" lie. Evil likes to think it is doing things its way, but even it is servant of God's purpose. The devil is allowed to go out and decieve, and is allowed to rule for a period of time. But when it comes down to it, he's just another servant of God, its just that he doesnt realise it.
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Old 20-12-2009, 11:53 AM   #87
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Who is in charge? Erm, God is. It's a lie of Satan that suggests the buck stops with him. Read your bible:

13:10 If anyone is meant for captivity, into captivity he will go. If anyone is to be killed by the sword, then by the sword he must be killed. This requires steadfast endurance and faith from the saints.

Tis all God's plan and the faith and endurance is in part remembering this and not falling for the "Satan is in charge of [anything]" lie. Evil likes to think it is doing things its way, but even it is servant of God's purpose. The devil is allowed to go out and decieve, and is allowed to rule for a period of time. But when it comes down to it, he's just another servant of God, its just that he doesnt realise it.
God doesn't even exist, dude.
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Old 20-12-2009, 05:31 PM   #88
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God doesn't even exist, dude.
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Old 20-12-2009, 05:39 PM   #89
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Who is in charge? Erm, God is. It's a lie of Satan that suggests the buck stops with him. Read your bible:

13:10 If anyone is meant for captivity, into captivity he will go. If anyone is to be killed by the sword, then by the sword he must be killed. This requires steadfast endurance and faith from the saints.

Tis all God's plan and the faith and endurance is in part remembering this and not falling for the "Satan is in charge of [anything]" lie. Evil likes to think it is doing things its way, but even it is servant of God's purpose. The devil is allowed to go out and decieve, and is allowed to rule for a period of time. But when it comes down to it, he's just another servant of God, its just that he doesnt realise it.
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Henry Kissinger , the NWO Reptilian, Anunakai Sucmbag
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Old 22-12-2009, 10:28 PM   #91
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Back to the question of whether the Anunnaki are still on Earth, the signs of their presence are manifold. Those of the Attas connection all see through the Anunnaki façade.

The major issue is that of slavery — the Anunnaki are slavers — they enslave all who they conquer. They conquered Earth and enslaved it and all its inhabitants.

Before the Anunnaki came to Earth, there was no slavery. The Anunnaki taught it to the humans. But, if the Anunnaki were to leave the Earth, eventually the humans would return to their natural state, which is without wars and without slavery. The fact that wars and slavery continue, in and of itself, is glaring proof that the Anunnaki are still on the planet. Of course, slavery need not be forced servitude, as the Anunnaki have designed many other forms of enslavements using tools such as money, usury, and police power. These tools are used to divide the "haves" from the "have-nots", the rich and the poor, the fortunates and the unfortunates etc.

The Anunnaki control religion and education and make certain that true knowledge is very difficult to acquire or impart. They use propaganda and disinformation to confuse, program and control the people they enslave. It is important that misinformation and disinformation are mixed with enough truth to fool people, otherwise, they would be useless tools. Religious inquisitions show just how thoroughly ignorance was once imposed upon the people. Today, such inquisitions are accomplished more subtly by skeptics and disinformation agents who use tools like scorn and ridicule. Further, those who dare to go against the system are persecuted.

Many have said that the human condition is explained away by human greed. Adam Smith, an Anunnaki, even dared to say in The Wealth of Nations that everyone’s greed leads to everyone’s good! This is one of the many lies that the Anunnaki spread, and it is the foundation of what we call "capitalism" today. However, the human condition is NOT caused by human greed, it is caused by Anunnaki enslavement agenda. If the Anunnaki were removed from the Earth today, tomorrow would be much brighter.

The Anunnaki have elevated the value of gold and silver. They use these and other precious metals to manipulate prices of goods, appeal to people’s vanity, and often use them as the basis of money systems. Many believe that gold and silver are the only true money today. In times of struggle, people tend to invest in gold and silver. However, the Anunnaki invented money to help them enslave the people. Gold and silver are used by the Anunnaki to make their contrived money systems appear to have sound foundations.

The Anunnaki have developed tax systems which keep the rich and poor blatantly separated and segregated. The rich feel superior to the poor and the poor feel inferior to the rich. Hence there is a crevice which divides the upper and lower classes. The Anunnaki do not want any real middle class. They want the poor to be poorer and the rich to be richer and richer. One of the ways that this is being accomplished is via the tax system in the capitalistic countries. However, class separation is also being done in socialist and communist countries. The social/economic classes are clearly divided in all Anunnaki-influenced cultures. Under the current situation, the poor are literally put into a "poor box" that they cannot get out of short of winning a lottery, inheriting something or acquiring money or fortune via some other means. Often those other means are very shadowy means. The rich, on the other hand, are getting richer under the tax systems.

The Anunnaki have created class systems for their benefit, and in the most serious of cases, they have created castes. The Anunnaki have made the Earth a hedonistic hellhole, which suits them fine. However, they have created an illusion of things being pleasant here when in fact, all life on the planet suffers tremendously under Anunnaki tyranny.

The Anunnaki thrive on energy of people via the emotional bodies of those beings. To extract this energy, the Anunnaki create wars, conflicts, factions, religions, racial hatred, national boundaries, class systems, sporting events etc. They also impose drugs, sex, and paedophilia on the people, while also promoting cruelty to humans, animals and nature. These are NOT human traits — they are Anunnaki forced characteristics that are programmed into the consciousnesses of the people on Earth. The Anunnaki Remnants are walking around on Earth today in human bodies and some of them are seen regularly on the network news. They include many of the ruling elite and otherwise powerfully placed people on this planet. Some of the ruling elite are aware of their Anunnaki connections, while most are not.

The Anunnaki Remnants, which included Ducaz, Pers-sires, Masa-karas and other smaller groups, like all consciousnesses on the Earth, re-incarnate again and again. When Anunnaki die in the physical, they reside in the astral until such time that they re-incarnate again. The Anunnaki Elite fled this plane and cannot return because the Attas have blocked their re-entry. However, the Anunnaki Remnants cannot leave this plane because the Attas have sealed all their escape routes.

Slavery is the mainstay of the Anunnaki. It can be seen throughout history. The British were exporting it all around the world. The Attas were very involved in the American Revolution, and there were two main fronts. First, the Attas were trying to break the shackles of the British tyranny over the American colonists. The British were the chief Anunnaki agents at that time, which is why they ruled the world. By breaking the bonds of tyranny of the British rule, the American Revolution went a long way to dissipating the British hold on the world. Over time, after the American Independence from the British, the United Kingdom was forced to release its iron grip on Canada, India, Australia and other nations it controlled.
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Old 22-12-2009, 10:49 PM   #92
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Hello,

In a lot of material about the New World Order and the whole conspiracy, we often hear about these three fellows: Queen Elizabeth (and her Kingdom), Pope (and his Vatican kingdom with the Jesuits) and the Rothschild (with their criminal banker friends - the Rockefellers, Warburgs, Oppenheimers etc.)

But after all, can anyone tell who is more powerful? What is the real structure relating to these three figures? Any good proof or is it impossible to know?


SOME POINTS:
- I guess a good start would be with sir Evelyn de Rothschild, in which "sir" meaning just another guy who bent to the queen, just a poor knight working for her empire.

- Another point would be the Pilgrims Society which apparently is extremely powerful over the world and the patron is Queen Elizabeth, and some Rothschilds and Rockefeller being just some members.

- But at the same time, it looks like the Rothschild fortune are WAY bigger than the Queen's, and let's not forget the infamous quote by Nathan: "I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England to rule the Empire,
The man that controls Britain's money supply controls the British Empire.
And I control the money supply."
(Nathan Mayer Rothschild) - 1815
In my humble Opinion, there is no "One True Ruler" they are all fighting amongst each other to be in control of the New World Order, There is probebly quite a few different factions.

The Anglo-American Millitery-Industrial/Oil/Banking Faction.
The Arabs
The Europeans
The BRIC (Brazil, Russia, China, India)
aswell as other smaller factions and groups.
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Old 24-12-2009, 09:52 AM   #93
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In my humble Opinion, there is no "One True Ruler" they are all fighting amongst each other to be in control of the New World Order, There is probebly quite a few different factions.

The Anglo-American Millitery-Industrial/Oil/Banking Faction.
The Arabs
The Europeans
The BRIC (Brazil, Russia, China, India)
aswell as other smaller factions and groups.
you elegantly failed to mention the zionists/modern day pharisees
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