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Old 16-12-2013, 01:24 PM   #21
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I have copied a number of posts from existing threads into a short thread to start.

Fell free to post content, information and presentations regarding fracking here - it is a subject close to many people's hearts and minds, and while there isn't necessarily a media blackout, a lot of people are concerned (rightly imho) about fracking and it's effects on both social and global scales.

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Old 16-12-2013, 01:53 PM   #22
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They do not care one iota of our countryside and land ,its part of the aganda 21 to get people off the land and into cities they control , just look at all the bias msm drivel You must accept fracking for the good of the country, David ...
www.telegraph.co.uk/ news/ politics/ 10236354/ You-must-accept-fracking-for-the-good-of-the-country-David-Cameron-te lls-southerners.html - View by Ixquick Proxy - Highlight
11 Aug 2013 ... David Cameron to insist that people living in the south of England must accept fracking, as he sets out his argument for the controversial way of ...
Fracking 'biggest threat to countryside after housing', says ex ...
www.telegraph.co.uk/ news/ politics/ 10221870/ Fracking-biggest-threat-to-countryside-after-housing-says-ex-minister .html - View by Ixquick Proxy - Highlight
4 Aug 2013 ... Fracking is the biggest threat to the countryside after the spread of ... Ministers are hoping that it could do the same in the UK, particularly in the ...
'We are open to fracking', says leading environmental group ...
www.telegraph.co.uk/ earth/ energy/ 10465022/ We-are-open-to-fracking-says-leading-environmental-group.html - View by Ixquick Proxy - Highlight
21 Nov 2013 ... Campaign to Protect Rural England tells The Telegraph it could back ... concerns about the impact fracking could have on our countryside and ...
Fracking runs high risk of polluting countryside, Environment Agency ...
www.mirror.co.uk/ news/ uk-news/ fracking-runs-high-risk-polluting-2172909 - View by Ixquick Proxy - Highlight
16 Aug 2013 ... Fracking for shale gas runs a high risk of polluting the countryside, ... Britain's first attempt at fracking in the North West of England had to be put ...
BBC News - Fracking should get public support, says David Cameron
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23662583 - View by Ixquick Proxy - Highlight
12 Aug 2013 ... The whole of the country must "get behind fracking", which deserves "real ... Writing in the Daily Telegraph, he said he wanted all of the UK to ...

and this latest http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/ene...-fracking.html

not one of them has a true clue on the dangers of this procedure,good by mother earth as we know it ,hello dank wastelands of methane , and bubbling rivers
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Old 16-12-2013, 02:16 PM   #23
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Fracking pinpointed as cause of Texas earthquakes


Yet another study has linked fracking and similar oil and gas mining practices to earthquakes, this time in Texas.

The new study was conducted by researchers from China University of Geosciences and the University of Texas at Austin and published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. The researchers analyzed 93 separate earthquakes that took place in Texas between March 2009 and December 2010. They found that many of the earthquakes occurred shortly after oil and gas companies had injected carbon dioxide into their wells.

"The timing of gas injection suggests it may have contributed to triggering the recent seismic activity," the researchers wrote. "If so, this represents an instance where gas injection has triggered earthquakes having magnitudes 3 and larger."

Carbon dioxide is injected into aging oil and gas wells as a way of extending their output. As easy-to-obtain oil and gas runs out around the world, such extreme drilling practices are becoming more common. For example, Occidental Petroleum says that nearly 60 percent of its West Texas and southeast New Mexico oil production uses carbon dioxide flooding techniques.



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In other words, whether fracking is locally net good or net bad is irrelevant. The global warming eco-loons are determined to serve their globalist masters and drive us back into the stone age come what may.
The mainstream media are extremely lazy and like to portray anyone who raises environmental concerns as some kind of loony anti-technology luddite. Do not fall for this pigeon-holing. Lucas is a politician (puppet), she turned up at Balcombe for a short time, gave a quick speech and very publicly got arrested - to my knowledge she's not been back.

As someone who lives near a steel works, you probably have some understanding of the amount of energy involved in smelting iron and then processing it into steel. The steel to line a well borehole more than a mile deep is therefore a significant energy cost. Presumably it's a permanent investment (no chance of retrieving or recycling any of that steel later).

If you do not have the pipeline infrastructure of an expansive country like the US or Australia then you are going to have to store gas in pressurized vessels and truck it about. Then there's the potentially radioactive waste water to process, methane leaks to check for etc. You have to question whether it's worthwhile?

This quote refers to Tar Sands extraction, but has some resonance with Fracking...
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You take clean, precious natural gas (a resource also on its own trajectory of depletion), and burn it to make steam to produce 'synfuel', a poor quality dirty crude oil. It is madness. This is no 'gold rush'. Indeed, Matt Simmons, an energy industry investment banker, once described it thus: "Gentleman, we have just turned gold into lead."
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Anti-Frack Protection Camp Barton Moss = activities on the frontline
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=262210

What is Fracking really about? = underlying agenda
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=252819
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There is one aspect of fracking that no one ever talks about - the "proprietary chemicals" that they use to frack with. We already know they contain noxious haxardous chemicals like Toluene, Benzene, and Dimethyl Chloride. So why the big secret about what the other 500 or so chemicals are? I can tell you. In exchange for investing in their companies, these fracking companies are taking the hazardous waste from all manner of industries that would rather bypass the disposal fees, mixing them all together to create "propietary fracking chemicals", and then disposing of them underground during fracking. It really is ingenous and evil. The people who live near these wells will be breathing this stuff in for years as it outgases back up through the ground, and groundwater will be forever poisoned.
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Nuclear waste could one day be disposed of by injecting it into fracking boreholes in the Earth, at least if one scientist’s idea takes hold

http://www.zengardner.com/fracking-insanity/
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40 per cent of Britain to be made available for fracking

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Thumbs down Why the UK should embrace fracking

This article by Chris Faulkner recently appeared in the Guardian. I think it's deliberately misleading for his own corporate interests (he's the CEO of Breitling Oil & Gas Corp.) I'm going to take it apart paragraph by paragraph...
http://www.theguardian.com/environme...king-shale-gas
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Shale gas can expand Britain's energy resource, reduce reliance on dirty coal and cut carbon emissions
Fracking for shale gas in Britain is about exploiting the resources of the British people for the benefit of unscrupulous corporations. It will greatly increase carbon (and methane) emissions and permanently consume vast valuable resources such as clean water, steel and diesel. It has left a dreadful legacy of damage in the countries it has been tried (e.g. US, Australia) severely impacting the quality of life of local residents.
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The United Kingdom is braced for the worst winter in 60 years, with heavy snows and record cold forecast. For many, survival will take a huge toll on the handbag: last year, the average fuel bill soared to a record £1,353, and the Office for Budget Responsibility says it will increase by £100 on average this year.
Seasonal weather forecasts for the UK are renown for their inaccuracy. Corporate greed is the main reason for fuel bill rises. Energy companies buy cheap wholesale fuel offseason and then put the prices up for the Winter (they do it every year). They have been caught out making massive profits and deliberately misleading customers, hence investigation by Ofgem - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...sis-began.html
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If that does not make you shiver, consider this: at one point last winter, the UK's gas supply was a mere six hours from empty.
Energy companies justify price hikes on the grounds of massive infrastructure investment, yet we continue to hear stories like this. Whose purpose does feeding the media scare stories like this serve? It's about holding vulnerable customers to ransom!
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It does not have to be that way. The future will be a lot warmer if the UK can muster the political will to look to a promising new alternative in energy production– hydraulic fracturing, or "fracking", a drilling technique that releases natural gas stuck in shale formations, opening access to enormous underground reserves.
Fracking will not reduce energy bills, quite the opposite, it will leave a legacy of costs.
http://www.theguardian.com/environme...e-energy-bills
http://www.theguardian.com/environme...tion-companies
The reserves have been over-estimated to drive financial investment. The amount of gas that can be extracted without costing more energy than it yields is only a small proportion of the total that's actually there.
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So far, the UK has refrained from taking advantage of this extraordinary ability to tap previously inaccessible reserves, citing environmental concerns. A close look at the fracking experience across the Atlantic, however, demonstrates how unfounded the concerns are and how beneficial fracking can be, both environmentally and economically.
Initial Fracks at Blackpool resulted in earthquakes and a temporary moratorium on fracking in the UK.
http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/ne...site-1-6323525
Earthquakes in the US have also been linked to Fracking.
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/201...g-earthquakes/
There's plenty of evidence of harm (individual, environmental, financial) as a result of Fracking in the US.
http://www.examiner.com/article/frac...8-and-counting
Throughout Europe there are moratoriums on Fracking on environmental grounds (notably France and Germany).
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As the United States has become more adept at tapping its existing energy resources, largely through fracking, the yields have been astronomical: this year, the US became the biggest natural gas producer in the world.
If this was the case then why did the US have a financial meltdown with global consequences? The whole thing has been done on credit, but the debt is not being paid off. As wells age they rapidly become a liability. All the big energy companies have run up huge debts and have to continually drill new wells. It's really just a speculative investment bubble!
http://www.energyandcapital.com/arti...q3-losses/2759
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...rian-woes.html
http://shalebubble.org/the-reality/
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The UK could benefit from this technological innovation too; a British Geological Survey estimate suggests there are around 40tn cubic metres of shale gas in northern England alone. If only 10% of the UK's shale reserves were tapped, the nation could be powered for the next half century.
Investment bubbles (financial con tricks) rely on over optimistic estimates on return. There is no benefit to burning 4 gallons of diesel to extract 1 gallon of gas. Particularly if you use 100 gallons of water in the process, which becomes radioactive and requires a specialist clean up job. Ultimately unconventional extraction of fuels is a dangerous business. Just look want happened to BP in the Gulf of Mexico, under the direction of the same Lord John Browne. Not only were there huge environmental, clean up and compensation costs, but the reputation of British engineering has been ruined.
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The opposition to fracking is a product of scientific misunderstanding – or worse, an agenda put forward by supposed environmental advocates who stand to profit if natural gas never lives up to its full potential.
Says the CEO of Breitling Energy Corporation who stands to profit from exploiting resources that don't belong to him. I'm just a concerned member of the public fed-up with corporate exploitation. I think its in our interest not to have the country permanently crippled with leaking wells and polluted water supplies. I'm disgusted by the government's forcing of a policy that has no mandate from the people it's suppose to represent (protect even) and it's blatant corporate profiteering.
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Contrary to what the fear-mongers suggest, natural gas from fracking actually benefits the environment. Natural gas emits a fraction of the carbon dioxide, nitrogen and sulphur oxides of coal – which accounts for 40% of the UK's energy consumption. In the US, as energy consumption has come to rely more on natural gas and less on coal, carbon emissions have plummeted to their lowest point in nearly two decades.
Why bother reducing CO2 emissions when you are massively increasing methane emissions? Not only is this a much more potent greenhouse gas, but its explosive and toxic! No mention of the millions of gallons of water needed, despite the hosepipe bans we have every Summer. Note that this water is put permanently out of use, just like the precious steel and cement used to line the wells. Well actually some of it comes back up, but that's usually radioactive and full of undisclosed chemicals. I'll be sure to remember the reduced CO2 emissions when I'm rebuilding my property after an earthquake or trying to run a business on poisoned, polluted land!
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Alarmists have also raised concerns about fracking's effect on the environment, claiming it contaminates groundwater and releases dangerous amounts of methane. In August, more than 2,000 people protested against fracking in West Sussex. So rowdy were the protests that they cost millions to police.
Fracking does have environmental consequences and these can be clearly seen (even on Google Earth) in those countries that allow it. Methane does get released (normally its flared). Water does get contaminated; radioactive permits are required amongst others. There is a risk of contaminating underground aquifers and we are being asked to rely on regulation to prevent this. If/when it does happen there is no insurance and we will be expected to foot the clean up bill. The protests in West Sussex were mostly local residents exercising their lawful and moral right to peacefully protest at having something inappropriate forced upon them without their consent. There is no mandate from the electorate for Fracking in the UK.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXTVz5JVaMM
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Yet no scientific evidence supports the claim that fracking poses a meaningful environmental or health risk. Public Health England has concluded that the small emissions from fracking pose little risk of harm. And the Royal Society and the Royal Academy of Engineering have likewise "concluded that the health, safety and environmental risks associated with the [fracking] technique can be effectively managed".
There are plenty of studies linking Fracking to earth tremors, pollution and health problems.
http://ens-newswire.com/2013/09/20/a...g-communities/
In particular the chemicals used in Fracking are known to disrupt the human endocrine system (hormones).
http://www.ringoffireradio.com/2013/...mone-function/
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Across the ocean, similar findings have been reported. Lisa Jackson, the former head of the US Environmental Protection Agency – no friend of fracking – conceded that there are "no proven cases where the fracking process itself has affected water". And a recent study by the University of Texas at Austin – the most comprehensive and authoritative yet – concludes that earlier estimates of the amount of methane emitted at fracking sites were vastly overblown. The installation of proper "completion" equipment "reduces methane emissions by 99%".
The American Environmental Protection Agency repeatedly U-turns on Fracking incidents.
http://switchboard.nrdc.org/blogs/ks...fo_on_fra.html
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And the economic benefits of fracking basically speak for themselves.
What economic benefits? What you mean the massive debts that energy companies can't pay off?
http://www.frackcheckwv.net/2013/10/...ot-paying-off/
http://www.energyandcapital.com/arti...q3-losses/2759
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A new study found that in the US, fracking caused an energy boom that has created about 2.1m jobs. It also added $75bn (£46bn) to government coffers at both the state and federal levels. Moreover, cheaper fuel has spurred the domestic manufacturing sector, increasing industrial production. That, in turn, helps the overall economy: IHS, an American company, has estimated that cheaper oil and gas has already increased the income in the average American home by $1,200 a year.
In the original Guardian article the "new study" is hyperlinked to nowhere.
http://www.theguardian.com/environme...king-shale-gas
If you like working in a plastics factory or chemical refinery then perhaps its good news.
I question whether regular households in the US have benefited from cheaper bills or meaningful employment?
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Consumers benefit too; with more than 10,000 wells opening each year, natural gas costs Americans less than a third of what their British counterparts pay.
The Lord running the show has already said household bills won't be significantly affected. We know how these Energy companies operate - the most vulnerable citizens end up on the highest tariffs. The workforce will be foreign contractors and profits will be hived off abroad to avoid tax. Meanwhile UK taxpayers, will be left with the bill for the clean up.
http://www.foeeurope.org/shale-gas-e...c-myths-210513
http://www.refracktion.com/index.php...heaper-energy/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...is-a-myth.html
http://euanmearns.com/what-is-the-re...-of-shale-gas/
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With fracking, the UK could expand its energy supply and strengthen its economy without jeopardising the health and safety of its citizens. As the winter cold sets in, that's heartwarming news.
Fracking is dangerous and has left a trail of environmental devastation and human misery. Look it up, do your own research. It's certainly not suitable for the UK and is being pushed by unelected corporate nutjobs responsible for disasters such as the Texas City Refinery Explosion (2005) and Deep Water Horizon Explosion (2010). They have run up a huge debt in the States and need to drill elsewhere to keep their Ponzi scheme going. They don't care about you or your bills, they just see you as a resource to be exploited.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Br...e_of_Madingley
http://www.breitlingenergy.com/
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On this site, which was set up by Greenpeace, you can enter your postcode and see if your home is likely to be fracked under.

http://wrongmove.org/

If so, it seems that if you deny permission for that fracking to happen, it is illegal for them to go ahead with it. I don't know if that's true or not, but it's worth signing up to anyway.
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We have had shale oil production here for several years now in the Bakken oil fields. There is a lot of manufactured exhuberance aboout these fields, but it is all hype designed to keep high expextations and money flowing. These fields actually produce much less oil than conventional wells, and they run out much faster also. Do not believe the hype. The same thing for fracking wells, they don't last that long, and when they start going dry the landowner is going to be stuck with worthless land that no one would ever buy and no more lease money coming in from the gas company.
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I was wondering whether anyone on this forum had ideas for tackling Fracking esoterically?
I was thinking along the lines of visualizing a drill jamming or a kink in the well.
If we are the Creators of consciousness, and everything is One, then perhaps the Frackers represent an exploitative aspect of ourselves. How then might we deal with that?

Incidentally there's an article on David's Headlines about Fracking today.
http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/t...anies-go-bust/
you did hit the worlds problems right on the head of the nail with that remark. i think the answer is obvious. but its got nothing to do with visualization unless that visualization leeds to people changing their own behaviour.

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We have had shale oil production here for several years now in the Bakken oil fields. There is a lot of manufactured exhuberance aboout these fields, but it is all hype designed to keep high expextations and money flowing. These fields actually produce much less oil than conventional wells, and they run out much faster also. Do not believe the hype. The same thing for fracking wells, they don't last that long, and when they start going dry the landowner is going to be stuck with worthless land that no one would ever buy and no more lease money coming in from the gas company.
Thanks Motley. Good to hear from someone who's living it. I found this article about depletion of the Bakken fields.
http://www.oil-price.net/en/articles...-in-bakken.php
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Then there's the environmental angle to it as well. Apart from the ground water pollution there's the added effect of flares. Natural gas has to be piped immediately after drilling. And, lack of extensive pipeline in the Bakken leads to flaring-burning the gas. So much so, flares in Williston can be seen from space. Talk about manmade landmarks!

Further, what when all these unconventional sources, we've become so dependent to dry up? Well, according to analysis by EIA, the 'inflection point' could depend on various factors like the economics of scale reduce, depletion of sweet spots but could still arrive as soon as 2014. This is a moving target however, as the coming of this inflection point can be postponed by increasing the number of drilling rigs and other technological breakthroughs (fracking was one of them). The proverbial can will likely be kicked down some more.
I take your point about devaluing the land. Here in the UK everything's very compact and property is generally overvalued. Perhaps the greater density of relatively wealthy individuals will be better able to take on the corporations? Perhaps there will be a massive slump as properties lose their value?

If they can't build the necessary pipelines in the Bakken, then there's no chance of them doing it here. I guess we can all look forward to tankers blocking the village lanes, lit through the night with flares rather than neon.
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We don't realise it but every day the UK is being hammered by seismic activity coming from the East. This is the seismograph from Market Rasen. Apparently a magnitude 10 quake hit us on the 12th but nobody felt it. It never stops registering activity.



What you might notice is that the waves start but then they either stop quite suddenly, or they break up. Why? Because our unique geology has adapted over millions of years and actually absorbs the energy, re-emitting it at a higher frequency, causing what we call "ley-lines". Half of the UK is gravity positive, the rest negative: the waves are attracted by one half and repelled by the other at the same time, speeding them up to be less dangerous.

But then man came along and started mining and drilling. And the earthquakes started. A quick comparison of mines and quakes on a map tells the story. Mines in Central UK = lots of earthquakes. No mines in Norfolk = no earthquakes.

Drilling, fracking and the rest leaves holes in the geological earthquake proofing grid, just like a cut cable. Sever the lightning conductor on a church half way up the tower and what happens next time there's a storm? The tower explodes. The same is happening in the UK. Earthquakes are increasing proportional to drilling, as are landslides, which are nature's way of trying to readdress the balance. All along the eastern side of the country where the most recent drilling has been, drains are collapsing and sink holes appearing - from southern Lincolnshire all the way up past Hull.

I've done the maths and this all pans out.

I've written to my MP and strongly recommend everyone else does. This is bigger than climate change as it's starting to cause injuries: the Apollo Theatre incident was seismically related in all likelihood. If plans to allow three-quarters of the country to be drilled go ahead, there will be significant repercussions. Britain will become the next Japan seismically speaking.

Which would you prefer? A few hours a day without fuel, or flattened towns and villages? And if the experts disagree, remind them that they don't really know what causes earthquakes (it's still technically a theory), what the relationship is with the ionosphere and the atmosphere (and therefore everything in between) or how to predict them. Without that knowledge they can't say anything with 100% confidence, whereas the evidence on the other hand is pretty weighty.
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If you don´t think there is anything to this fracking business.......

...drive around in your car with an anti-fracking protest supporter sticker or poster on your rear side, or rear window, and just see the pólice attention you get.

I´m talking being boxed in by pólice vehicles in a multi-story car park, visits from you local plod to your door to ask you all about your involvement with the protest and if you know of any and would you report extremism!?!

Seems perfectñy harmless to me like
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Follow Romania’s Rise Against Fracking

Largely unreported by the mainstream media, something remarkable is happening in the small village of Pungesti in Romania. People are standing up for Life. But the protest against fracking and the US Giant Chevron is not only local. For today a day of national mobilisation has been announced.

You can follow the unfolding events in Romania, which may hold many lessons for us in Ireland by going to the website.

(from Trottamundo

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For our English-speaking friends. Please be with Romania today, tomorrow. We are living crucial times. Help us be seen, help us be heard!

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Its just clicked into place for me, thanks to Max Kiesers guest Chris Cooke just saying now that gas will be the worlds reserve currency.

Chris is on in the second half of the show but its all worth watching: http://rt.com/shows/keiser-report/ep...ax-keiser-672/

Ickey always said follow the money, one of the axis of evil Iran has 16% of global gas reserves and second only to Russia who between them make up 60% of global gas reserves according to Cooke above. Follow the money, the war on terror lol we know its a war for oil and gas and opium land but know they are openly telling us why. Now add Fracking to the equation and we can see why there is a Frenzy to frack besides being very profitable for the elite and helping to get the plebs of the land by poisoning the water there is at least a third reason and that is one of positioning for a region in the new world order based on a one world currency backed by natural gas. More gas equals more status in the new world order?
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Its just clicked into place for me, thanks to Max Kiesers guest Chris Cooke just saying now that gas will be the worlds reserve currency.

Ickey always said follow the money, one of the axis of evil Iran has 16% of global gas reserves and second only to Russia who between them make up 60% of global gas reserves according to Cooke above. Follow the money, the war on terror lol we know its a war for oil and gas and opium land but know they are openly telling us why. Now add Fracking to the equation and we can see why there is a Frenzy to frack besides being very profitable for the elite and helping to get the plebs of the land by poisoning the water there is at least a third reason and that is one of positioning for a region in the new world order based on a one world currency backed by natural gas. More gas equals more status in the new world order?
Maybe? There's an arms race in the arctic where gas has been found and russia have already planted their flag and arrested any protesters. The disputed islands in the south china sea are disputed because of its natural gas. China and Japan (USA) will go head to head over the remaining resources on the planet. they are two regions i expect regional wars to be fought and for the reason of resources. at least thats how it will be sold to the 99% of the world when the reality is that free energy exists or at least very cheap energy but if 99% new this then they would have control over us.

So if Tesla was right, we dont need to frack, then whats the real reason behind fracking?
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Maybe? There's an arms race in the arctic where gas has been found and russia have already planted their flag and arrested any protesters. The disputed islands in the south china sea are disputed because of its natural gas. China and Japan (USA) will go head to head over the remaining resources on the planet. they are two regions i expect regional wars to be fought and for the reason of resources. at least thats how it will be sold to the 99% of the world when the reality is that free energy exists or at least very cheap energy but if 99% new this then they would have control over us.

So if Tesla was right, we dont need to frack, then whats the real reason behind fracking?
Its not for the common good of man thats clear, its for profit first or so it appears, infact i might even go a far as saying profit is meaningless to them as its all about turning the screw on us because thats how sick people get there fix and that is the true agenda ala 21. Theres probably more bonuses for them so lets not limit ourselves here but it goes beyond the five sences.

I think about the current model governments have used in the west to capitalise there populations and use that capital with great leverage to the extent that countrys now all in serious debt based on nothing more than promisery notes and what the people can produce. That system is ending it cannot be sustained it was never meant to be permanent just a stepping stone along the way to slavery. Gold back currency was ditched a long time ago to enable the greater spending because the U.S doesnt have the gold reserves to back the issued currency but this is all old news its relevant here because in the NWO there will be only 500 million people and so less promisery notes or debt potential, gas will be the new gold as theres more of it to trade than gold and the elite are gunna need all the gold for there thrones and beds anyway, thats if its still on planet.
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