David Icke's Official Forums The Matrix and the Sanskrit Texts
 User Name Remember Me? Password

 01-04-2012, 12:37 AM #42 jconnar Senior Member   Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: The Asylum Posts: 4,093 Likes: 5 (5 Posts) Balance and imbalance. Unlimited and limited.
01-04-2012, 02:24 AM   #43
svarga
Inactive

Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Satya Yuga
Posts: 1,200
Likes: 0 (0 Posts)
Perpetual motion: Balance & imbalance

Quote:
 Originally Posted by jconnar Balance and imbalance. Unlimited and limited.
That's right, jconnar!

From [the easy to read] Krishnananda:

The motion of prakriti or nature is something like the movement of a wheel. We know that wheels have spokes, and the spokes move together with the movement of the wheel, as in a cart. When the vehicle moves, the wheel also moves, and when the wheel moves, the spokes also rotate. The spoke that is up or at the top comes down, and that which is down goes up. So there is a repeated going up and coming down of the spokes of the wheel when the wheel moves, on account of the motion of the vehicle.

Likewise, nature [PRAKRITI] is in perpetual motion – it is not static. Nothing can be permanent in this world. Everything moves. And in this motion, what actually moves is nothing but a set of conditions or forces called the gunas of prakriti, or nature, we may say – sattva, rajas and tamas.

What are these gunas?

These gunas are the constituents of nature, the substance of prakriti. The tendency to stability of a particular condition, inertia as we call it, is what is known as tamas. The tendency to movement or action, and an urge towards external things is called rajas.

Sattva is a peculiar thing which cannot be properly analysed, because it is a state which supervenes when both the conditions of tamas and rajas subside. Sattva is an equilibrated condition of the mind that is neither static nor inert – of an unconscious nature – nor is it an urge towards an external something. In the state of sattva, we are neither urged towards an external object, nor are we unconscious. We can imagine what that state is. What is that condition of mind where it is not thinking of an object and yet is not unconscious? That is sattva.

But that state is very rare, and we cannot be in that condition for all times; either we are thinking of something outside, or we are asleep. But, is it possible to be in a condition where we are not sleeping, and yet not thinking of an object? How many times could such a state be experienced in life? Sattva is a via-media between rajas and tamas, a balance between inert unconsciousness and a diversifying, externalising urge towards objects of sense.

These gunas of prakriti are perpetually in motion, like the spokes of a wheel. The evolution of nature is similar to the movement of a vehicle, and these gunas are the spokes of the wheel of nature. When there is evolutionary movement, a movement of everything in the world, these conditions called the gunas are also set in motion.

These gunas constitute not merely the external physical objects, but also the mind inside. The mind is also a part of nature – it is not a subject, par excellence. The mind is an object, ultimately speaking. Though the physical object is external to the mind, the mind itself is external to consciousness.

So, from the point of view of pure consciousness, the mind is also an object; it is not a subject, though it appears as a subject in respect to physical objects outside. Inasmuch as the mind also stands in the position of an object, it comes within the law of nature and is conditioned by the gunas; it is constituted of sattva, rajas and tamas. In this movement of the three gunas, the mind is also set in motion. That is why the mind is restless.

The mind never rests for a moment, because it is urged by the law of evolution. When the universe evolves, moves forward, the mind and body and every blessed conceivable thing is drawn, dragged together by the force of the evolutionary urge.

In this motion, the gunas of prakriti are not in a state of balance. They are perpetually moving. There is up and down, progression and retrogression, coming down and going up, etc., so that there is an unintelligible activity going on both outside and inside oneself.

When the rajas spoke comes up, we are distressed and distracted, agonised and disturbed, and are placed in a state of insecurity and unhappiness. Sometimes we are disturbed and unhappy, and the moment we get up in the morning there is the feeling, "Oh, something is wrong. I am not all right." We do not know what has happened to us. We put on a Sunday face or a castor oil face and don't want to speak to anybody. If someone asks what has happened, we reply, "I do not know. I am not well." This is rajas coming up.

Sometimes in the morning we say, "I do not want to get up. I will sleep. Don't talk to me." This is tamas. Either we do not want to do anything at all and would like to be in a torpid condition on account of the supervening of tamas in the mind, or we are dejected and in a melancholy mood due to the operation of rajas.

*more here:

The Study and Practice of Yoga, An Exposition of the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali
by Swami Krishnananda
PART I: THE SAMADHI PADA, Chapter 26: The Gunas of Prakriti

http://www.swami-krishnananda.org/pa...i/raja_26.html

 01-04-2012, 02:55 AM #44 svarga Inactive   Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Satya Yuga Posts: 1,200 Likes: 0 (0 Posts) You are not the Doer! As you absorb an understanding of the Gunas - also termed modes or qualities - you can begin to identify your patterns, those endless mood swings, proclivities and compulsions as nothing more than these GUNA Matrix 'things' which are in fact on automatic. The Sanskrit term is the YANTRA RUDHANI - translated by VanBuitenen as a water wheel. How many people do you know who are really in control of their moods, their habits and compulsions? Most of us don't know ourselves well enough to notice our repeating patterns. We continually weave webs in and around our hologram. Over time hopefully we come to realize that we have crashed into the same brickwall over and over - and it just becomes flat-out boring. I think it helps if you know your astrological birth chart, but only in the sense that the chart lays out some of our patterns for us. The cardinal signs are rajas, the mutable sattva, and the fixed are tamas. Our current incarnation identity is a prison matrix that we ourselves created over many lifetimes to 'play' in - as the Cycles of Time move ever onward toward Density. Know Thyself! Self mastery will come when we develop NON-ATTACHMENT to our Gunas, which are only operating on 'their' objects. We do nothing. Everything is God. You are not the Doer! Abhinavagupta: "How can the actions performed by the sense organs - which are entirely different from my own Self [the God-Within, the Oneness] - affect me who am identical with Atman [the Oneness]." Bhagavad Gita V.8 The man of Yoga [in union with the One, YOGA means union], knowing the Truth [that he is that Oneness], knows that while seeing, hearing, touching, eating, walking, sleeping, breathing --- he in fact does nothing! *** Krishnamurti: We are so conditioned, so heavily burdened with the past, with all our knowledge, information how can the mind be spontaneous? Can the mind observe its activity without prejudice, which means without images? When there is a division between the observer and the observed there is conflict but when the observer is the  observed there is no control, no suppression. The self comes to an end. Duality comes to an end. Conflict comes to an end. This is the greatest meditation to come upon this extraordinary thing for the mind to discover for itself the observer is the observed. http://www.katinkahesselink.net/kr/observer.html Last edited by svarga; 01-04-2012 at 03:00 AM. Reason: yet another ooops!
01-04-2012, 04:33 AM   #45
coco
Senior Member

Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Bitchin' Rockstaritude from Mars
Posts: 14,719
Likes: 3 (2 Posts)

Quote:
 Originally Posted by svarga [You really have to turn the volume up to get this: "Binaural beats are auditory processing artifacts, or apparent sounds, the perception of which arises in the brain for specific physical stimuli. This effect was discovered in 1839 by Heinrich Wilhelm Dove, and earned greater public awareness in the late 20th century based on claims that binaural beats could help induce relaxation, meditation, creativity and other desirable mental states. The effect on the brainwaves depends on the difference in frequencies of each tone, for example, if 300 Hz was played in one ear and 310 in the other, then the Binaural beat would have a frequency of 10 Hz."] Nada Brahma - YouTube
Friend, thank you for this thread.

But is not the sound contained in this video nothing more than what is routinely heard in silence? I recall this when even as a crib baby.

I am not arguing. You and I do not know each other, and I truly look forward to future interactions; I'm just saying a crib baby is aware of this and also a person throughout life while lying in bed when it's quiet (I should think). I was and still am. It's all too evident.

This hum, while a bit a higher in tone, is not foreign. I seek to know what is so....well, special? It is stronger closer to the sea opposed to an inland area.
__________________
"If you see your face is dirty in the mirror, do you wash the mirror?"

A forum dedicated to the research, discussion, reporting and classifying of the UFO phenomenon.
http://www.uforesearchnetwork.proboards.com/index.cgi

01-04-2012, 05:07 AM   #46
svarga
Inactive

Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Satya Yuga
Posts: 1,200
Likes: 0 (0 Posts)
the sound of silence

Quote:
 Originally Posted by coco Friend, thank you for this thread. But is not the sound contained in this video nothing more than what is routinely heard in silence? I recall this when even as a crib baby. I am not arguing. You and I do not know each other, and I truly look forward to future interactions; I'm just saying a crib baby is aware of this and also a person throughout life while lying in bed when it's quiet (I should think). I was and still am. It's all too evident. This hum, while a bit a higher in tone, is not foreign. I seek to know what is so....well, special? It is stronger closer to the sea opposed to an inland area.
Thank you, coco.
Yes, I agree. Not foreign, special.
I posted that because it was an example of how someone with a more scientific mind [than me] was researching NADA BRAHMA. I know musicians who hear sounds most of us cannot. It was meant to illustrate the pervasive nature of sound. In the Sanskrit texts, especially the Rig veda and the Mahabharata, the weapons are actually MANTRAS.

Also ... should point to the idea that specific frequencies of sound have specific powers.
Which relates to using mantras to attain higher consciousness - and other less than pleasant stuff like haarp & mind control, etc.

Last edited by svarga; 01-04-2012 at 05:59 AM.

 01-04-2012, 01:03 PM #49 isangard Junior Member   Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 24 Likes: 0 (0 Posts) ///73. There are crores (1000s) of constellations and as many stars too. I would like to correct the translation. Crore is equal to 10 million not (1000s)
01-04-2012, 06:31 PM   #50
svarga
Inactive

Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Satya Yuga
Posts: 1,200
Likes: 0 (0 Posts)
Thank you!

Quote:
 Originally Posted by isangard ///73. There are crores (1000s) of constellations and as many stars too. I would like to correct the translation. Crore is equal to 10 million not (1000s)

Thank you, isangard.
I do appreciate your correction.
I wrote this around 8 years ago and I have noticed some mistakes as I re-read them to post here, some of which I corrected.

I really enjoyed reading the Puranas.
Wonderful and fantastic stories.
Especially the descriptions of other planets.
The Sanskrit texts are an endless source of an expanded consciousness.

 01-04-2012, 06:39 PM #51 svarga Inactive   Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Satya Yuga Posts: 1,200 Likes: 0 (0 Posts) Vimanas VIMANAS: India’s ancient relationship with UFOs & ETs The Sanskrit word VIMANA is sometimes translated as temple, but more often as aerial ship – meaning a craft that flies high in the sky. The ancient Sanskrit texts are full of references to these flying VIMANAS, For example in the MAHABHARATA: … they again took to their city and employing their…wizardry flew up to the sky, city and all…their celestial, divinely effulgent, airborne city, which could move about at will. Now it would go underground, then hover high in the sky, go diagonally with speed, or submerge in the ocean. [3(35)170.20-25] On this sun-like, divine, wonder-working chariot [Arjuna] flew joyously upward, while becoming invisible to the mortals who walked on earth, he saw wondrous airborne chariots by the thousands. [3(32)43] India never rejected the so-called paranormal because its holy' men & women have been achieving these SIDDHIS - as these powers are termed in Sanskrit - for centuries, even today with India’s high-tech revolution. A similar case could be made for Russia, which has a long tradition of psychics and other paranormal achievers. We here in the west were 'cleansed' of much of this ability - which lies in the DNA and is passed through the mother - by the witch-hunts primarily in Europe, but also in colonial America. The church literally killed off those who could 'SEE'. A tyrannical priest-craft burned specific DNA. Many indigenous populations with their beliefs in the invisible worlds and their shamans have suffered similar fates. As Ingo Swann, the father of remote viewing at the Stanford Research Center, said: "Psychics are their [the ETs] only enemies." The immense catastrophic problems our world is facing are in fact METAPHYSICAL in nature. As long as our blinded-by-science experts ignore the invisible-only-to-us realms, we will remain dupes - unconscious victims.
 01-04-2012, 06:42 PM #52 svarga Inactive   Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Satya Yuga Posts: 1,200 Likes: 0 (0 Posts) The Siddhis Remote Viewing: Remote viewing is the so-called paranormal ability to see and hear things ‘at a distance’ and is in fact one of the ancient SIDDHIS or mystical powers, which are a part of the teachings in Hinduism. The Sanskrit term for remote viewing is SRAVANA DARSHANAM. It gives the ability to hear and see from a distance. The SIDDHIS or mystical powers are a by-product and consequence of perfecting a pure focused meditation. In the Sanskrit text The Uddhava Gita, which is found within the Bhagavatha Purana, Krishna explains these SIDDHIS to his disciple Uddhava. Krishna says that these powers are either granted to one by him – meaning Krishna as God – or they flow naturally from the pure GUNA, which is SATTVA. In other words, the higher your consciousness becomes and as your entire being evolves - these SIDDHIS come naturally to the aspirant. This is very different from one who is involved in magic, or is actively seeking occult powers to make him or herself superior to others and to enhance the small personal ego – which only serves to bind your consciousness deeper into the illusory holographic matrix. I would also suggest that the natural evolutionary flow of mystical powers is quite distinct from the tedious repetitive techniques currently used in these schools – based in fear and control - by many governments and their military to spy on possible enemies. Other SIDDHIS include: * establish contact with the sense of creation * enjoy all that is seen and heard, the visible and the invisible * direct MAYA (the art of Illusion) according to one’s wish * move the body with the swiftness of the mind * assume any form desired * die according to one’s own will There are more… List of siddhis - spiritual powers here: http://www.mytelekinesis.com/siddhi-...eromaster.html
 02-04-2012, 01:52 AM #56 svarga Inactive   Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Satya Yuga Posts: 1,200 Likes: 0 (0 Posts) Rama kills the Demon! This is from the Sanskrit epic The Ramayana. Fighting demons is never easy. Notice the aerial cars & weapons!
 02-04-2012, 11:46 PM #59 svarga Inactive   Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Satya Yuga Posts: 1,200 Likes: 0 (0 Posts) Sri Yantra as symbol of the Matrix In my view, the Sri Yantra is the perfect symbol of the MATRIX. images here: http://www.imeditate.com/lessons/ima...yantra_red.jpg http://blog.angelaferrara.com/wp-con...oth-13.5cm.jpg WIKI: The Sri Yantra or Shri Chakra is a yantra formed by nine interlocking triangles that surround and radiate out from the central (bindu) point, the junction point between the physical universe and its unmanifest source. It represents the goddess in her form of Shri Lalitha Or Tripura Sundari, "the beauty of the three worlds". Four isosceles triangles with the apices upwards, representing Shiva or the Masculine. Five isosceles triangles with the apices downward, symbolizing female embodiment Shakti. Thus the Sri Yantra also represents the union of Masculine and Feminine Divine. Imagine this as three-dimensional, like a holographic sculpture: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...f/f0/Meru1.jpg And then recall the double torus which Nassim Haramein is helping us all understand: The ancients knew the Kali Yuga was coming and that we would FORGET everything. The Veils would be drawn, tightened around our consciousness, leaving most of us deluded and vulnerable. So they tried to preserve the eternal Wisdom in symbols, obscure secret codes, and in (fractals of endlessly changing) stories of 'gods' as metaphysical principles. They passed the Truth teachings down orally, until we lost our ability for such now unimaginable 'memory' - and then created sacred languages such as Sanskrit, which would be accessible to only a few trusted ones who Knew that there is only ONE. The God-within each of us, the Oneness already KNOWS everything. The Oneness resides in your Heart and simultaneously pervades the entire universe. That Oneness IS everything and everyone and we are that Oneness! Hopefully we are awakening - and that Wisdom-Knowledge which resides within each and every one of us is re-emerging, enlightening, and setting us free.
 03-04-2012, 12:04 AM #60 svarga Inactive   Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Satya Yuga Posts: 1,200 Likes: 0 (0 Posts) Shri Yantra * Paramatman This is lovely. Paramatman means the Highest (para) Atman (soul). Meaning there is only the Oneness. We all share the same soul. Beneath all 'appearances' of multiplcity and differentiated perception, all the 1000s of data-collecting bodies we have enjoyed and suffered throughout the Cycles of Tme - we are ALL ONE! A.R. Rahman is one of India's greatest musical geniuses. I feel that he has written the most beautiful heart melodies since Mozart walked this earth. He is a light in the world. Rahman was brought up a Hindu, but became a Sufi after his own inner experience of enlightenment. This one makes me cry... Last edited by svarga; 03-04-2012 at 12:08 AM.

 Bookmarks