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Old 11-10-2007, 01:35 PM   #41
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look i am using english letters, Y A S H U A H, REAL FUCKING HARD AIN'T IT.LOL
don't be so paranoid about it. Greeks don't have that 'sh' sound and same thing happens to all of the Greek words that you dudes borrow, without which you would have science in the amount and quality of ...zero

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sun of god/son of god. the solarisation, learn about cults, the sideral, lunar, stellar, solar, fertility/arigculture.
think for yourself for a minute? i'm not asking too much.

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christians are misled, the truth is yashuah. i follow yashuah/yhwh/most high and all the teachers he sent from krishna, buddha, moses, etc. i don't follow the church, test them by their fruits, discern.
you just follow yourself, no matter what you say now.

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why change his appearence, was not towel head/asiatic in your liking, why change him to white cesare borgia clone. how many people are white in egypt, where he fled to safety, even if a european lives/holidays in a hot country, they tan anyway. and i think israel is hot. although you might want to check it, i might be wrong
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why have contradictory gospels, omit books like enoch. why edit and redit.
i have written extensively about it on another thread in the "religions" forum, although it was too little of what i could have said. we can pick it up in the "religions" forum if you wish.

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in time i will be proved correct.

we are all children of the most high, for yashuah to say he was the son of god, meant a child/creation, like you are a son of god, etc. we have a spirit, hence who gave us this spirit, the creator/most high/source/yhwh

so what does that make you?
that's a little diversion, in the sense that 'we' don't 'have' anything and no one gave us something.. meaning that we are not separate entities that were granted by spirit, rather spirit is all there is and we live because of it. it's a little twist, but creates a distorted notion of reality.
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Old 11-10-2007, 01:39 PM   #42
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well you certainly proved my point, mister defender of greek stuff. my profile, i was merley pointing out historical facts( renasssiance/cesare borgia), bilogical facts( i think sun/tan are related), so your best advice is follow myself, "ye shall be as gods", lol thats the shit that you were you are now.

again, i must have done some magic, using english letters to spell yashuah, really smart blokes those bible writers, hey, lol
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Old 11-10-2007, 01:40 PM   #43
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on a side note, i was thinking of this:

the Sun, is 99,999% of the mass of our planetary system. this means that quite a vast area, in which our planet is included, is the Sun, minus a 0,00001% of it.

what is the Suns dimensions? nobody really knows, because we think of dimensions in terms of the visible light, the light that our eyes can perceive.

what if... i say what if we were able to perceive ALL light? what would the Sun's dimensions be?

it would encompass our entire planetary system (and the virtually empty space in between) and extend to infinity.

and that's just the reality of it.
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Old 11-10-2007, 01:42 PM   #44
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well you certainly proved my point, mister defender of greek stuff. my profile, i was merley pointing out historical facts( renasssiance/cesare borgia), bilogical facts( i think sun/tan are related), so your best advice is follow myself, "ye shall be as gods", lol thats the shit that you were you are now.

again, i must have done some magic, using english letters to spell yashuah, really smart blokes those bible writers, hey, lol
defender of Greek stuff? you crack me up dude

nah, you were merely doing another copy-paste job.
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Old 11-10-2007, 01:44 PM   #45
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to be frank, you guys changing him, tells us alot more about your profiles than it does us. why were all thw early renditions of him as olive skinned/black? its so lame thw futile answers i get from people. the truth was the elite could not have brown saviour, as it would mean their divide and rule, based on white as superioir would be rendered powerless.

if the biblical propganda of curse of ham was to be used succesfully in creating this division, then how could they have a white yashuah etc. they created it to split us up, to have brother enslave brother.

whats alarming is today, in this day and age, people still adhere to it. even the bbc did a high tech jesus, based on dna samples of local populatiosn, climate etc and guess what he looked like.

lets just say he would be on a no fly list, lol
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Old 11-10-2007, 01:49 PM   #46
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name a better way of posting info than copy and paste,

shall i read it all and rearrange it, thats plagarism. i even provide links, highlight it so people like you can learn something. its what you make of it, what shows your intelligence. its an efficent method.


or do you read stuff, memorise an obscure passage it and try to pass it off as your own, and try to appear all intelligent, how do you like those apples lol

you obviously don't make much of it. the very fact yahsuah is spelt in english letters, still hasn't clicked for you, why change it? if the jews call him yashuah, why change it?

why change his name, message?

this intellectual snobbery of cut and paste, its utter bullshit. if i stated it was my own work, research, then i would be wrong. i merely relay info. what do you do, nothing with any gravitas.
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Old 11-10-2007, 02:02 PM   #47
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name a better way of posting info than copy and paste,
that way, you bring loads of propaganda as well. you should be able to discern. don't you think that anyone is capable to copy and paste practically anything? what if we all did that constantly, would it be cool then?

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you obviously don't make much of it. the very fact yahsuah is spelt in english letters, still hasn't clicked for you, why change it? if the jews call him yashuah, why change it?
don't ask me.. Jesus is a German translation of the Greek Iesous. it's not change, it's like calling Michael, Mike.

let's take that name for example, Michael. in Greek it is Μιχαήλ and it is pronounced 'Mee-chae-eel'.

you wanna keep being obsessed with language and pronunciation differences, go right ahead, i am just telling the truth behind it and that's all.

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why change his name, message?
the message doesn't change with the name change.

the message remains the same all along.

BUT, the interpretation of the message changes. interpretations have been changing and adopting to localities since the beginning, it's not new, nor should it be regarded as such, like there is a conspiracy of evildoers who misinterpret everything. sure there are malicious people, but what you understand, is what YOU understand. you choose what to believe.

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this intellectual snobbery of cut and paste, its utter bullshit. if i stated it was my own work, research, then i would be wrong. i merely relay info. what do you do, nothing with any gravitas.
if you find no value in what i say, don't bother to reply.

as i don't bother to respond to your race oriented nonsense at all.

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Old 11-10-2007, 02:03 PM   #48
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/1243339.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertain...io/1243954.stm

i shall post links only, as i want to be all Klever like bigus.
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i shall post links only, as i want to be all Klever like bigus.
i'm not telling you off for copy-pasting, i was just pointing out the propaganda and the errors in those texts, for your consideration.
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propaganda, what do you think the roman bible is, gods truth, lol

the yashuah links are white/jewish, therefore your race card doesn't work does it. in fact all you have as a defense is copy/paste, race, yada fucking yada.

or its a german translation of greek, lol no shit sherlock, its german/french that english comes from. heck the english come from the germans and french.

i suppose flavius will be rejected, due to copy and paste, him being jewish. maybe stromfront gets your seal of approval, lol

i apologise for my sig, it should mean i want only white people to live together, on their ancestoral home of mars, lol
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peach i like you stylee, lol
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propaganda, what do you think the roman bible is, gods truth, lol
propaganda is stuff like "Yashuah became Jesus, because the Greek had Zeus and somehow thought that it would be cool to merge everything together and make it Je-Zeus"

which is bollocks of course. first of all, there is no "J" in the Greek language, second, there is no "Z" in Iesous (pronounced ee-sue-s), it's just a pronunciation "trick" of the English language.

also "sun of God" and "amen-ra" for example. if this isn't nonsense, i don't know what is.
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look into mystery school, and you see what they added on to him.
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THE PISCEAN AVATAR: THE JESUS OF ASTROLOGY
(page 4 of 12)

by Marcia Montenegro, former professional astrologer

JESUS AS THE AVATAR OF PISCES

Since Jesus is considered a higher spiritual being, an Avatar, by many astrologers, he embodies the highest aspects of Pisces: universal love, compassion, sacrifice, intuition, servanthood, martyrdom, and spirituality. Jesus represents the birth of non-ego (Pisces) from ego (Aries).

Correlations are made between Jesus and the sign of Pisces. Pisces, meaning fish, is a water sign. There is much water and fish symbology in the Bible stories about Jesus, such as Jesus calling fishermen as disciples, being on the sea several times, calming the storm at sea, helping the disciples catch fish, performing miracles in feeding people with fish, walking on water, his baptism in water, and his talk with Nicodemus about being born again by “water and spirit.”35

Oken says that Jesus’ walking on water symbolized that man must rise above “his emotions, fears, and superstitions [the water] in order to be master of himself and thus worthy enough to be a true servant of the God-force.”36 This walk on the water is seen by New Ager Redfield in his book as symbolizing Jesus’ spiritual evolution to such a state that his vibrations were high enough to make Jesus less material and light enough to walk on the water.37

Oken points out that Friday, the day of Venus, is the day for eating fish. Venus in astrology is exalted in Neptune, that is, Neptune brings out the best qualities of Venus, such as universal love. It is asserted that this is what Christ was teaching, and the correlation is made between fish on Friday and Venus in Neptune to further show Jesus’ connection with Pisces.38

JESUS OF THE NEW AGE
The astrological Jesus is still a New Age Jesus, or, in more contemporary terms, the Jesus of the new spirituality. Jesus is the man who realized Christ Consciousness, the innate divinity in all men. In a book based on the Edgar Cayce’s channeled readings, Christ Consciousness is described as an awareness each of us has, which can be “awakened” by our will, “of the soul’s oneness with God.”39 Paramahansa Yogananda, the Hindu guru who came to America and whose book, Autobiography of a Yogi, inspired many Westerners to follow Hindu-based teachings, defines Christ Consciousness as “the universal consciousness, oneness with God, manifested by Jesus, Krishna, and other avatars,” and is the realization of “God immanent in all creation.”40 Unity’s The Metaphysical Bible Dictionary expresses it more directly: “Christ is the divine-idea of man....Each of us has within him the Christ, just as Jesus had......The cosmic man...is the Christ....we are not persons, but factors in the cosmic mind. Reveal yourself to yourself by affirming ‘I am the Christ, son of the living God’...”41 In one New Age bestseller, the author states that the greatest teaching of Christ was that we all have everlasting life, brotherhood in God, and that we have whatever we request.42

The return of Jesus should be viewed as perhaps “the reception of the Christ Consciousness in an individual.”43 When writing as an astrologer about Christ and Pisces related to the movie, “The Last Temptation of Christ,” I suggested that this film may have represented the second coming of Christ through a film. I stated in the article that “Humanity has been on the cross...nailed to its own narrow vision, unwilling to sacrifice ego for the resurrection of divinity. Discovering the Christ within frees us to experience that divine nature; what Christ did physically, we must do metaphysically.”44

Contained within the Piscean Avatar is the New Age Christ as the one who awakens Christ Consciousness within. This Avatar also is a man, Jesus, who became the Christ. As astrologer Oken puts it:

“Let us make it absolutely clear that when we use the world ‘Christ,’ we do not necessarily mean Jesus. The Christ is the final step in the evolution of Man. It is a level of consciousness in which the individual has completely unified his Self with the Godhead. In this respect Buddha was a Christ as was Krishna as was Jesus.”45

As in most New Age thinking, Jesus becomes the Christ through attaining the Christ Consciousness, the awareness of the divine Self. Jesus and the Christ are separate because anyone who achieves this spiritual awareness of the inner Christ can become the Christ, or as pop singer Jewel puts it, “We all will be Christed when we hear ourselves say/ We are that to which we pray.”46
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http://labyrinth_3.tripod.com/chart.html

Jesus' Astrological Charts

according to Don Jacobs
For your consideration....

A contemporary astrologer, the late Don “Moby Dick” Jacobs who was also a Methodist minister and Bible scholar has worked out the date and time of Jesus’ birth by combining historical, Biblical and astro*logical information. His conclusion is that Jesus was born in Bethlehem, Judea on March 1, 7 BC (Julian) at 1:30AM.

This birth chart was calculated by Astro Numeric Service using a special “deep time” program. It is perhaps one of the most powerful possible with a six planet stellium in Pisces with five oppositions to Pluto and five trines to Neptune. This makes Jesus a super Pisces which correlates with the fact that for the first 300 years of the Christian era, the symbol of Christianity was not a cross, but a fish, the symbol of Pisces.

A stellium in Pisces in the third house is an indication of extreme focus, genius and brilliancy in the area of spiritual matters with strong emphasis on compassion and communication. The oppositions to Pluto indicate the ability to transform others with compulsion which may be why he was crucified. The trines to Neptune indicate great kindness, highly developed psychic ability and miraculous healing powers. Sagittarius rising signifies a love of freedom and spiritual truth, and the ability to teach.

Don Jacobs suggests those interested in giving birth to the Christ Consciousness within themselves may find meditation on the birth chart helpful.

The Astrological Birth Chart of Jesus The Christ,
based on March 1, 7 B.C., 1:30AM, Bethlehem, Judea

is kalki/shiva/machine man the last avatar to come to help us in the tradition of yashuah, krishna, buddha, the avatar of the kaliyuga, the last age before peace.
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Just found this in my bookmarks:
best read @the link
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(1) Descendents of Aaron

"The word 'Messiah' comes from the Hebrew verb 'to anoint', which itself is derived from the Egyptian word messeh, 'the holy crocodile'. It was with the fat of the messeh that the Pharaoh's sister-brides anointed their husbands on marriage. The Egyptian custom sprang from kingly practice in old Mesopotamia."
- Sir Laurence Gardner, "The Hidden History of Jesus and the Holy Grail" (from a lecture given at the Ranch, Yelm, Washington, 30 April 1997)

"Remarkably and characteristically, the term Mashiah - of which 'Messiah' is the Anglicized form - had preceded the Messianic concept by many centuries. Originally, in Biblical usage, it simply meant 'anointed', and referred to Aaron and his sons, who were anointed with oil and thereby consecrated to the service of God."
- Raphael Patai, The Messiah Texts

"And you shall put them upon Aaron your brother, and upon his sons with him, and shall anoint them and ordain them and consecrate them, that they may serve me as priests."
- Exodus 28:41

"The legitimacy of the priesthood...was supposed to descend lineally from Aaron through the Tribe of Levi. Thus, throughout the Old Testament, the priesthood is the unique preserve of the Levites. The Levite high priests who attend David and Solomon are referred to as 'Zadok'- though it is not clear whether this is a personal name or an hereditary title."
- Baigent, Leigh & Lincoln, The Messianic Legacy

Zadok or Sadduc means "Righteous One" and is symbolized by TZADDIK - one of the two pillars which, according to Knight and Lomas, stood at the doorway to Qumran). Two gigantic bronze pillars flanked the entrance to the Temple of Solomon.

"The doorway was created by the pillars of 'tsedeq' ['righteousness' - always doing good to others] and mishpat' ['judgment'- divinely appointed order] with the holy arch of 'shalom' ['peace' - prosperity, success, general well-being]."
"When these two spiritual pillars are in place with the Teacher of Righteousness (tsedeq) on the left hand of God and the earthly Davidic King (mishpat) on his right hand, the archway of Yahweh's rule will be in place with the keystone of 'shalom' locking everything together at its center.
"It was clear from our readings that 'tsedeq' was for Canaanites a term associated with the sun god. The Canaanite sun god was seen as the great judge who watched over the world, righted wrongs and shone light unto the dark doings of hidden crimes."
- Christopher Knight & Robert Lomas, The Hiram Key: Pharaohs, Freemasons and the Discovery of the Secret Scrolls of Jesus

(2) Use of the term "Messiah"

The High Priest and King
"The High Priest, in particular, was termed 'the Anointed [Mashiah] of God'. With the establishment of the monarchy, the same term was applied to the king: he was 'the Anointed of the Lord' because he was installed in the high office by receiving the sacrament of anointment."
- Raphael Patai, The Messiah Texts

"The adversaries of the LORD shall be broken to pieces; against them he will thunder in heaven. The LORD will judge the ends of the earth; he will give strength to his king, and exalt the power of his anointed."
- 1 Samuel 2:10

Solomon is anointed by Zadok, thereby becoming 'the Anointed One', the 'Messiah' - 'ha-mashi'ah' in Hebrew."
- Baigent, Leigh & Lincoln, The Messianic Legacy

"Your throne, O God, endures for ever and ever.
Your royal scepter is a scepter of equity;
You love righteousness and hate wickedness.
Therefore God, your God has anointed you
[in the Greek of the Septuagint, enchrisen se, has made you Christ]
with the oil of gladness above your fellows."
- Psalms 45:6-7

Annointed Prophets
"A third type of the divinely elected, the prophet, could also undergo the ceremony of anointing: Elizah, we read, was commanded by God to anoint Jehu as king over Israel, and Elisha as prophet in his own place."
- Raphael Patai, The Messiah Texts

"And Jehu the son of Nimshi you shall anoint to be king over Israel; and Eli'sha the son of Shaphat of A'bel-meho'lah you shall anoint to be prophet in your place."
- 1 Kings 19:16

"In a few passages 'anointed one' is used of prophets (most notably in Isa. 61:1) and of priests (Lev. 4:3, 5, 16), but without further designation the term normally refers to the king of Israel."
- Graham N. Stanton, The Gospels and Jesus, The Oxford Bible Series (1989), paperback, p. 221

"The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me, because the Lord has anointed me; he has sent me to bring good news to the oppressed..."
- Isaiah 61:1 (Deutero-Isaiah 5th c. BCE)



(3) The Idealized King

"...In early monarchic days the person of 'the Anointed of the Lord' came to be considered sacrosanct: to harm him or even to curse him, was a capital offense."
- Raphael Patai, The Messiah Texts

"But David said, 'What have I to do with you, you sons of Zeru'iah, that you should this day be as an adversary to me? Shall any one be put to death in Israel this day? For do I not know that I am this day king over Israel?'"
- 2 Samuel 19:22

"A further development of this concept can be seen in the belief that God provided special protection to His anointed king. The Psalms contain several references to the idea of divine intervention for 'the Anointed of the Lord', the idealized Davidic king:"
- Raphael Patai, The Messiah Texts

"Now I know that the Lord saveth His Anointed [Mashiah],
He will answer him from His holy heaven
With the mighty acts of His saving right hand."
- Psalms 20:7

"While David was king of Israel (tenth century B.C.E.), the belief developed that his House would rule forever, not only over Israel but also over all the nations:"
- Raphael Patai, The Messiah Texts

"The God who giveth me vengeance,
And bringeth down peoples under me....
Therefore I praise Thee, O Lord, among the nations.
And will sing unto Thy name,
Who increaseth the victories of His king
And dealeth graciously with His Anointed,
With David and his seed for evermore."
- 2 Samuel 22:48-52, Psalms 18:42-52

In the seventh century B.C.E., Judah and its capital were besieged by the Assyrians. Micah prophesized deliverance by someone from Bethlehem, the home village of the house of David, in terms that are resonant with Messianic expectations centuries later:

"Now you are walled about with a wall; siege is laid against us; with a rod they strike upon the cheek the ruler of Israel. But you, O Bethlehem Eph'rathah, who are little to be among the clans [or rulers] of Judah, from you shall come forth for me one who is to be ruler in Israel, whose origin [Hebrew 'goings out' ] is from of old, from ancient days [olam or from days of eternity]. Therefore he shall give them up until the time when she who is in travail has brought forth; then the rest of his brethren shall return to the people of Israel. And he shall stand and feed his flock in the strength of the Lord, in the majesty of the name of the Lord his God. And they shall dwell secure, for now he shall be great to the ends of the earth."
- Micah 5:1-5

"The word 'olam' is derived from the primitive root alam, meaning to veil from sight, to conceal. An analysis of the passages where olam appears shows clearly that the word does not express 'eternity' or 'everlasting' as it has been frequently translated in the King James Version. Rather, it simply expresses a duration, a time during which a person, thing, or state of a thing exists - literally an age of time which has a definite beginning and conclusion. the duration of an age in scripture is sometimes defined and sometimes undefined."
- Dallas E. James, "Putting the Sword to Churchianity"

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Old 11-10-2007, 09:04 PM   #58
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so we have bbc hi tech jesus/yashuah

Jesus was born in Bethlehem, Judea on March 1, 7 BC (Julian) at 1:30AM.

i was born 4 days later at the same time, although not in the same year lol

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good post micky.
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Old 11-10-2007, 10:42 PM   #59
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people are not fully understanding the terms, maya/illusion, and the ability to manifest/change/influence reality.

after all if reality is illusion, why change it?

its not as easy as just thinking and then creating/receiving what you wished for

its not as simple as nothing is real, everything is illusion/maya.

see these two last things, the power of the mind/spirit, and maya/illusion, are the two most powerful things.

this is why they hide it, these two things would change life forever.

this is the holy grail.

see dimensions/levels of reality = maya/illusion

wave/particle duality = waves become atoms due to the observer effect

will/intent = creates/influences reality

however the mind/spirit can alter, influence this wave/field duality, by thought, by observance, the observer effect.

the wave/particle duality (waves/atoms) of the construction of reality are also related to the holographic/fractual/fiboinacci construction of reality.

the science adds up, its the method thats hidden.

this is why esoteric/magic is science, just hidden science.

higher functions like esp, remote viewing, healing, lucid dreaming. meditation helps etc, training your mind..

when we unlock our brains and learn to use them properly, they in conjunction with our spirit/energy can do amazing things.
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