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Old 07-07-2017, 06:14 AM   #21
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I don't think so, thermion. I knew a couple of kids with Down's Syndrome and very few more that could be called autistic when I was growing up. There really does seem to be a lot more today.

I still believe we are causing some affect that has not become obvious yet by blasting every human being with non-stop rf and emf beams from multiple cell towers 24/7, and especially the affect this is having on growing fetuses in the womb. I believe we are causing damage that we refuse to see because we are addicted to cell phones and wifi.
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I don't think so, thermion. I knew a couple of kids with Down's Syndrome and very few more that could be called autistic when I was growing up. There really does seem to be a lot more today.

I still believe we are causing some affect that has not become obvious yet by blasting every human being with non-stop rf and emf beams from multiple cell towers 24/7, and especially the affect this is having on growing fetuses in the womb. I believe we are causing damage that we refuse to see because we are addicted to cell phones and wifi.
A fair point. So this should be assessable by comparing populations living in cities with a lot of EMF radiation, and various other contaminants, to populations in the same counties living in very rural areas. But this has probably been done.
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I took an electrical engineering class in college called E & M Fields. Part of that class was learning how rf and emf waves affect each other. Emf fields are like ripples in a pond, and multiple emf fields contacting each other are like how the ripples from multiple pebbles dropped into a pond affect each other.

Our bodies work on emf fields down to the cell level. Our nervous systems and brains are electrical and also emit emf. Down at the level of nature and how we fit into the environment, our bodies were designed/evolved such that all of the emf in our bodies is made to interact with the natural environment, like with each other, the plants and animals, and the earth itself. My own personal theory is that we are causing harm to ourselves because of all the rf and emf that is being aimed at us from every direction 24/7 that is disrupting our own emf all the way down to the cellular level. You cannot get away from it by going into a building. It's everywhere now.

The result of this and what it's doing to us is so subtle that we are not yet perceiving that anything is wrong. Most likely, by the time we figure out that we screwed ourselves up it will be too late. I think smart phones were the greatest things the elites ever invented. They've completely trapped people like technological slaves to their devices. More and more people are getting addicted to it everyday. Even many jobs now, you're expected to have your smartphone on you at all times so you can receive and immediately react to all work related emails and texts.

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Back in the 60's women were given Thalidamide. Even today, Thalidamide hasn't gone away, it's various permutations resurface every now and then in "new" drugs. As for autism being more prevalent today than in the past. In the past, different names were used to describe the conditions of mental health. For example, people used to be called "mentaly handicapped". You don't hear much about people who are mentaly handicapped these days. Another phenomenon was "the village idiot". There used to be a saying, "there is nowt stranger than folk".

Today, how many "village idiots" and "queer folk" does one come across? What happened to "the Spastics society". What happened to "the mad house" and "the lunatic assylum"? There have for the past few hundred years been different ways of hiding these occurancies. Another thing that used to exist was "the freak show".

There's been a lot of malnutrition foe hundreds of years. There was a time when the aristocracy would only eat meat while peasants would only eat vegetables. The aristocracy would die young from such diets. Elizabeth I had black teeth from eating excess sugar from the newly founded colonies in the Caribian. Medicine has often included mercury and other known poisons.

Many products manufactured in the last 200 or so years have contained poisons. The Romans ate and drank from lead utensils. Lead pipes were common in roman times as well as victorian and later. Optics used to contain heavy metals which would destabilise causing the glass to mist while giving off radiation. People used to carry radioactive glow-in-the-dark metals on their person because they believed they were curative.

There's been a tremendous amount of poisons in cities going back to Babylonian times some 6000 years ago. Is it really any surprise that by now, humans may suffer from all the accumulated effects?

In fact, this "unconscious medaling" in human health has been ongoing long into the past. So today we now have autism, which is a more controled, refined form of a mental situation.
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I would like to know how much vaccinations plays a part in what is going on. Yes the fear porn that does not address the side affects. Does it make sense that children vaccinated against measles got measles in droves at Disneyland? If the vaccine works you should be able to let your children play with children with measles for years and they should not get it. What does this vaccine do? Certainly it does not immunize against measles. This is just one of the vaccines that could be causing autism. What do we hear from the parents. They were normal and then autism showed up after they got their shots. Just thinking out loud!
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I like south park's cure for adhd

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Ah man!!

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I'm not saying additives in food and GMO isn't a factor ... but if you take that line, that it's multiple agents , people are overwhelmed ... shrug their shoulders and say "what can we do?"...
Yes both GMO FOOD and VACCINES can lead to auto immune problems......

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It should be obvious. All the dots are right there. Glyphosate screws up the gut bacteria in such a way that it predisposes a child getting certain multiple vaccines to get autism. There could also be a component of damaged epigenes from the parents who were themselves exposed to this GMO crap and then passed the damaged genes to their children.
Yea it should be..But not to the sheeple morons I saw on friday!!!

"I dont believe it.......its BS"

They dont have any problems letting them inject garbage into them!!


Stupid fucks who just FOLLOW THE HERD!!!!!

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I think too many possible but not provable (or rather admitted by official sources) theories regarding causes for autism that the waters become very muddy and, as far as joe public is concerned they wont be considered valuable and important advice. People cant keep up with whos right or whos wrong, and the internet dosent help matters as most people automatically dismiss anything not endorsed by the medical professional or MSM as nonsense and not to be trusted. Ive spoken to the odd person regarding the link between vaccines and autism and was surprised that they consider the possibility. So why arent these people, those who have children or older siblibgs that were affected by this, why arent they campaigning to get to the truth?. And why arent people questioning other possible causes like wifi and mobile phones?.
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Aluminium in brain tissue in autism.......huh....thats suspicious

MatthewMoldaDorcasUmarbAndrewKingcChristopherExley a
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Autism spectrum disorder is a neurodevelopmental disorder of unknown aetiology. It is suggested to involve both genetic susceptibility and environmental factors including in the latter environmental toxins. Human exposure to the environmental toxin aluminium has been linked, if tentatively, to autism spectrum disorder. Herein we have used transversely heated graphite furnace atomic absorption spectrometry to measure, for the first time, the aluminium content of brain tissue from donors with a diagnosis of autism. We have also used an aluminium-selective fluor to identify aluminium in brain tissue using fluorescence microscopy. The aluminium content of brain tissue in autism was consistently high. The mean (standard deviation) aluminium content across all 5 individuals for each lobe were 3.82(5.42), 2.30(2.00), 2.79(4.05) and 3.82(5.17) ?g/g dry wt. for the occipital, frontal, temporal and parietal lobes respectively. These are some of the highest values for aluminium in human brain tissue yet recorded and one has to question why, for example, the aluminium content of the occipital lobe of a 15 year old boy would be 8.74 (11.59) ?g/g dry wt.? Aluminium-selective fluorescence microscopy was used to identify aluminium in brain tissue in 10 donors. While aluminium was imaged associated with neurones it appeared to be present intracellularly in microglia-like cells and other inflammatory non-neuronal cells in the meninges, vasculature, grey and white matter. The pre-eminence of intracellular aluminium associated with non-neuronal cells was a standout observation in autism brain tissue and may offer clues as to both the origin of the brain aluminium as well as a putative role in autism spectrum disorder.


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We have made the first measurements of aluminium in brain tissue in ASD and we have shown that the brain aluminium content is extraordinarily high. We have identified aluminium in brain tissue as both extracellular and intracellular with the latter involving both neurones and non-neuronal cells. The presence of aluminium in inflammatory cells in the meninges, vasculature, grey and white matter is a standout observation and could implicate aluminium in the aetiology of ASD.



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Could the rise not just be due to the ability to diagnose?

I'm in my 50s, but as a kid I can't remember the word 'autism' (or Asperger syndrome) EVER being used. But I can think of quite a number of kids in both primary and secondary schools that would probably be given that diagnosis/label now.

Hence my scepticism that it's increasing; maybe it's just being more widely diagnosed.

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Well, back in the day (when you and i were at school) those kids were just naughty kids, they were either in the remedial class, or highly intelligent with some 'social issues' maybe.

The spectrum was still there, but 'we' didn't really have or recognise a name for it back then.

i remember it seemed that so many kids would get a 'could do better' remark on their school reports.

They can't say things like that anymore, but schools have to tailor their teaching to suit, rather than tailor children to fit in.

Some kids were troublesome, some were bright to excess and most fitted in somewhere in-between.

i think the labels kinda create an environment that requires specific tailoring of education and / or specific / personal needs to a degree.

i work with kids who have severe cases of autism - we used to call it a learning difficulty, but now we call it something different and treat it in a different way.

i think autism has always been around, but it was treated (sic) differently back in the day.

i also think, on a very personal level, that autism is a reaction to 3d models or aspects within chemical and heavy frequencies - not in all cases, but in many cases.

The brain is a very complex and finely tuned organism, start re-directing its functions or corrupt its design and it can have some drastic effects.

The medication that 'fixes' autism - ie creating a chemical correction or balance suggests that the human physical condition is something that can be tempered or ignited through the application of stimulants and suppressors.

And there seems to be a very definite link to the human condition, it's electrical impulses etc being manipulated by the application of certain chemicals or electrical frequencies - such as might be applied through the interaction with heavy chemicals / compounds, electrical frequencies / forms of radiation etc....

Not explaining it very well, but we can all recognise how the human condition can be altered by the application of certain substances.... THC, for instance, as well as aluminium and lead etc.

EDIT: and as said earlier on this page (missed it prior to re-reading) i'd agree that bombarding the foetus (while in pregnancy) with low wave frequencies from outside the womb, as well as chemicals absorbed via foods / drinks / medications etc all effect children before they are born and continue to effect them as they grow.

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'Autism' or rather neurological developmental problems most definately ARE on the rise. An increase in diagnosis does not account for all of the rise. The rise is due to ENVIRONMENTAL factors which is to say that people are being exposed to harmful substances that they were not previously being exposed to

50% of the rise in autism prevalence is unexplained

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'Autism' or rather neurological developmental problems most definately ARE on the rise.
The ominous rise of Alzheimer's in America: 5.7 million people have it - and it's costing the US $277 BILLION a year
Alzheimer's is on a steep rise in the US, according to the Alzheimer's Association's annual report
Every 65 seconds, another person is diagnosed with the degenerative disease
As the baby boomer generation ages, 14 million people are predicted to have Alzheimer's by 2050
Early detection of the disease could save the US as $7.9 trillion
By Natalie Rahhal For Dailymail.com
Published: 15:25, 21 March 2018 | Updated: 19:13, 21 March 2018

Alzheimer's disease is now debilitating 5.7 million Americans, according to the latest figures.

As death rates for most deadly diseases fall in the US, Alzheimer's deaths increased by 123 percent between 200 and 2015, and the trend is set to continue.

The degenerative brain disease costs the US thousands of lives and $277 billion each year, according to the Alzheimer's Association's annual report released Tuesday.

For most people, Alzheimer's disease will not be diagnosed for 20 years after the brain changes that cause it begin, and the association urges that detecting it in its early stages could save lives and as much as $7.9 trillion in the US.

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Surely the rise in Alzheimer's disease (and cancer, arthritis, etc.) is mainly due to the fact that people are living longer (though not necessarily healthily), whereas they would have died in previous decades years before succumbing to Alzheimer's and other diseases we associate with old age.

If/when we cure these diseases, what others will emerge at the age of say 120 or more that are rarely seen now?

Is there anyone medically qualified here to supply an informed opinion?
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Surely the rise in Alzheimer's disease (and cancer, arthritis, etc.) is mainly due to the fact that people are living longer (though not necessarily healthily), whereas they would have died in previous decades years before succumbing to Alzheimer's and other diseases we associate with old age.

If/when we cure these diseases, what others will emerge at the age of say 120 or more that are rarely seen now?

Is there anyone medically qualified here to supply an informed opinion?
Thats a very good point. I guess its like syphillis. It only kills people when it get to the final stage, which can be 20-30 years after catching it, so you could easily die before it kills you.

I reckon any that disease, etc will always look like its on the rise in a rapidly increasing population who are living longer because there are just more people around with issues. Yeah, there will always be environmental factors but these dont account for everything.
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The ominous rise of Alzheimer's in America: 5.7 million people have it - and it's costing the US $277 BILLION a year
Alzheimer's is on a steep rise in the US, according to the Alzheimer's Association's annual report
Every 65 seconds, another person is diagnosed with the degenerative disease
As the baby boomer generation ages, 14 million people are predicted to have Alzheimer's by 2050
Early detection of the disease could save the US as $7.9 trillion
By Natalie Rahhal For Dailymail.com
Published: 15:25, 21 March 2018 | Updated: 19:13, 21 March 2018

Alzheimer's disease is now debilitating 5.7 million Americans, according to the latest figures.

As death rates for most deadly diseases fall in the US, Alzheimer's deaths increased by 123 percent between 200 and 2015, and the trend is set to continue.

The degenerative brain disease costs the US thousands of lives and $277 billion each year, according to the Alzheimer's Association's annual report released Tuesday.

For most people, Alzheimer's disease will not be diagnosed for 20 years after the brain changes that cause it begin, and the association urges that detecting it in its early stages could save lives and as much as $7.9 trillion in the US.

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Well, back in the day (when you and i were at school) those kids were just naughty kids, they were either in the remedial class, or highly intelligent with some 'social issues' maybe.

The spectrum was still there, but 'we' didn't really have or recognise a name for it back then.

i remember it seemed that so many kids would get a 'could do better' remark on their school reports.

They can't say things like that anymore, but schools have to tailor their teaching to suit, rather than tailor children to fit in.

Some kids were troublesome, some were bright to excess and most fitted in somewhere in-between.

i think the labels kinda create an environment that requires specific tailoring of education and / or specific / personal needs to a degree.

i work with kids who have severe cases of autism - we used to call it a learning difficulty, but now we call it something different and treat it in a different way.

i think autism has always been around, but it was treated (sic) differently back in the day.

i also think, on a very personal level, that autism is a reaction to 3d models or aspects within chemical and heavy frequencies - not in all cases, but in many cases.

The brain is a very complex and finely tuned organism, start re-directing its functions or corrupt its design and it can have some drastic effects.

The medication that 'fixes' autism - ie creating a chemical correction or balance suggests that the human physical condition is something that can be tempered or ignited through the application of stimulants and suppressors.

And there seems to be a very definite link to the human condition, it's electrical impulses etc being manipulated by the application of certain chemicals or electrical frequencies - such as might be applied through the interaction with heavy chemicals / compounds, electrical frequencies / forms of radiation etc....

Not explaining it very well, but we can all recognise how the human condition can be altered by the application of certain substances.... THC, for instance, as well as aluminium and lead etc.

EDIT: and as said earlier on this page (missed it prior to re-reading) i'd agree that bombarding the foetus (while in pregnancy) with low wave frequencies from outside the womb, as well as chemicals absorbed via foods / drinks / medications etc all effect children before they are born and continue to effect them as they grow.
There is a program on in the UK this Wednesday about how how many adults may have undiagnosed autism. I will be looking at this for sure. I did the online test for autism and came in just under the recognised level for a diagnosis though well over what the 'average' person should score, lol
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so because the daily mail posted it it means it is automatically not correct?

that's a logical fallacy
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so because the daily mail posted it it means it is automatically not correct?

that's a logical fallacy
I thought people like you distrusted the mainstream media and only placed trust in alternative sources.

To say the mainstream media is controlled and cant be trusted then use them to make a point is a logical fallacy.
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I thought people like you distrusted the mainstream media and only placed trust in alternative sources.

To say the mainstream media is controlled and cant be trusted then use them to make a point is a logical fallacy.
No it isn't

the mainstream media will cover the where, the what, and the when but what they are not so good at covering is the who and the why

Also it is not so much about what they report as what they don't report

So what you'll see is the alternative media using mainstream media articles to show what's happening but then to really understand why things are happening you have to read between the lines

I see mainstream media articles as pieces of a puzzle that can be used to support an argument, but they'll rarely have a smoking gun bit of info
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