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Old 22-11-2007, 03:49 PM   #41
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that is a really scary article. from what i know about new york state's laws, there are religious and medical exemptions.
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Old 23-11-2007, 02:15 PM   #42
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Hi guys!

As my first post in this forum I'm going to ask you about the Tetanus vaccine. Since I'm going on vacation to Thailand this coming february, people advice me to take the Tetanus vaccine before I go there.

Should I take it or stay the hell away from it?
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do research and then decide for yourself. best of luck and welcome to the forum.

here are a few links for you. if you type tetanus vaccine into google then thousands of links will come up for you to look at.

http://www.vaccinetruth.org/page_8.htm

http://www.thinktwice.com/tetanus.htm

http://nccn.net/~wwithin/tetanus.htm

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/tetanus/default.htm

http://www.umm.edu/ency/article/002031.htm
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FAKER: Dr. Mark Nesselson admitted falsifying records for families worried about the documented health risks of vaccinations.
FAKER: Dr. Mark Nesselson admitted falsifying records for families worried about the documented health risks of vaccinations.
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SAfer vaccines and expanded scheduling for administration are very good ideas. Very few are aware of how rapidly epidemic many of the diseases can become. I recall my grandmother speaking of entire neighborhoods in NYC being wiped out by diptheria...
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November 25, 2007 -- An Upper West Side pediatrician who conspired with families to get their young kids into school without state-mandated shots has been disciplined in the first case of its kind in New York, The Post has learned.

Dr. Mark Nesselson was fined $10,000 by a state disciplinary panel this month and told he can practice only under supervision. He admitted to state charges of falsifying forms for four children in two families.

The 50-year-old pediatrician told The Post he's done the same for at least a handful of other families over the years.

The parents of his patients were concerned about possible adverse health effects of vaccines.

Nesselson, who has pledged to play it straight from now on so he can continue to practice, thinks the real problem has yet to be solved.

"The central issue has not gone away," said the soft-spoken doctor, who has the bleached-blond highlights and tan of a surfer. "For me, that is the merit behind mandating immunizations that start so early, that are so numer ous."

Nesselson took a stand in the national vaccine controversy that, fueled largely by concerns over autism, has led an increasing number of parents to question the wisdom and safety of the shots - and in some cases to forgo them entirely.

He said he began to question the safety of vaccines in the early 1990s after seeing many children with autism whose parents said the onset of the disorder coincided with the vaccinations.

"The things that we are immunizing against are circulating in such low frequency, it impels those people who do what I do, who offer immunizations to children, to re-evaluate risks versus benefits," he said.

He said he would work with parents who wanted their kids immunized on a slower or reduced schedule.
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Why do so many allow themselves to be blinded by what the medical industry has to say? What if there is truth to the damaging effects of many vaccines? Would you want your child exposed to problems at such an early age? A follow up article is...
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Nesselson said he got into trouble after he moved to Hawaii two years ago and gave medical records to his patients' parents to take to their new doctors.

The new pediatrician seen by two families turned in Nesselson to authorities, he said.

He signed a consent form with the state Office for Professional Medical Conduct agreeing to its penalties, which include taking a course in medical ethics and three years of monitoring.

Despite Nesselson's concerns, an overwhelming number of public-health officials and pediatricians insist vaccines are safe and necessary. The federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention maintains: "The great preponderance of evidence is that there's no link between vaccines and autism."

A Manhattan mother of two for whom Nesselson falsified records said she did not want her kids to have the shot for measles, mumps and rubella - the MMR vaccine - until they were older.

The worried mom said since the family never traveled and the diseases were rare in New York, she didn't feel she was putting her kids or others at risk.

"The form was filled out," she said of the falsified record. "We knew what we were doing."

She said her children had the vaccine when they were older - after they entered school.

Some parents who don't want to vaccinate their kids characterized Nesselson as a hero.

Eileen Phoenix, a Staten Island mother of four, said she refused to vaccinate her fourth child because her third was diagnosed with autism.

"I feel terrible for this doctor," she said.

So does the mom for whom Nesselson lied.

"I made the decision with my husband," she said. "The fact that it came back to cause Mark such hardship - it was probably one of the worst days of my life."
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Drive-Thru Vaccinations In Los Angeles

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Old 27-11-2007, 03:06 AM   #48
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I guess I wanted one of you to tell me what to do about giving vaccinations. You can't and I know better. Today when I gave a four year old her shots....she told me she loved me before she left and it brought tears to my eyes. Just like many times before. How can I give them to them and hurt them and say i am protecting them from getting sick? I can't. I know I need to find a new job and I am looking. It breaks my heart everytime I stick a child or even and adult that thinks they are being protected......and r they truly? Or just being injected with shit?
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I guess I wanted one of you to tell me what to do about giving vaccinations. You can't and I know better. Today when I gave a four year old her shots....she told me she loved me before she left and it brought tears to my eyes. Just like many times before. How can I give them to them and hurt them and say i am protecting them from getting sick? I can't. I know I need to find a new job and I am looking. It breaks my heart everytime I stick a child or even and adult that thinks they are being protected......and r they truly? Or just being injected with shit?
That's sad.

I am in the Army and I often wonder what they are putting inside me when I get shots, vaccinations, etc. I never get sick and they forced me to get a flu mist thingy - why would I need flu shots after 34 years of not having issues with getting sick? Makes you wonder. I got 3 of the anthrax and I'm not getting another one.
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That's sad.

I am in the Army and I often wonder what they are putting inside me when I get shots, vaccinations, etc. I never get sick and they forced me to get a flu mist thingy - why would I need flu shots after 34 years of not having issues with getting sick? Makes you wonder. I got 3 of the anthrax and I'm not getting another one.
so sorry for you. many of those flu shots have thirmesol (mercury is in it).
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if they did no damage

can someone please tell me why the dhss offer compensation??

What is it?

People who are severely disabled due to a vaccination against specific diseases may receive a one-off Vaccine Damage Payment of £120,000.
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Basic qualifying conditions

To qualify for a Vaccine Damage Payment, the customer must be at least 60% mentally or physically disabled due to a vaccination against :

* diptheria
* tetanus
* pertussis (whooping cough)
* poliomyelitis
* measles
* rubella (German measles)
* mumps
* tuberculosis
* meningococcal Group C (meningitis C)
* haemophilus influenzae type B (hib); or
* smallpox (vaccination upto August 1971)

Claims can also be made on the basis of -

* combination vaccines for diphtheria, tetanus and pertussis (DTP) and for measles, mumps and rubella (MMR);
* close personal contact with a person who has been vaccinated against oral poliomyelitis;
* the mother was vaccinated during pregnancy against one of the above diseases.

The disabled person must also satisfy these conditions -

* be two years old or more on the date of the claim
* have been vaccinated in the Isle of Man or the UK, unless they or someone in their family was in the armed forces and vaccinated as part of the armed services medical facilities.
* vaccination must have been administered before the person's 18th birthday, unless it was against poliomyelitis or rubella (German measles) or meningococcal Group C, or during an outbreak of disease in the UK or the Isle of Man.
* the claim must be made at any time before the customer's 21st birthday, or, if they have died, the date on which they would have attained that age, or up to 6 years after the date of the vaccination; whichever date is later.

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How much could I get and how am I paid

The scheme provides a tax-free lump sum of £120,000.

Payments are made to a trustee if the disabled person is -

* under age 18; or
* unable to manage their own affairs.

If the disabled person lives with the family the parents may be appointed trustees.
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How and when should I apply?

To request a Vaccine Damage Payment claim form, write to :
Vaccine Damage Payments Unit
Palatine House
Lancaster Road
PRESTON
PR1 1HB
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Acrobat PDF FileSection 1 - Benefits and Contributions Information Guide. (68 kb)
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500 Oz Girls Suffer Gardasil Reactions

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December 04, 2007 12:00am

ALMOST 500 girls have had adverse reactions such as seizures, rashes and paralysis after taking cervical cancer vaccine Gardasil in Australia since it was released in April.

Of those, almost 200 Victorian schoolgirls were affected and 10 girls were admitted to hospital after fainting or collapsing following the jabs.

But leading experts defended the benefits of Gardasil and dismissed controversial reports of overseas deaths as unrelated and fictitious.
TELL US: Have you experienced an adverse reaction to Gardasil? Post your story below.

Doctors yesterday played down many side-effects as being unrelated, and said figures were low and what was expected in proportion to the number of doses dished out.

More than 13 million doses have been given worldwide.

Some 2.2 million Australian women have received the jab, with almost 500,000 in Victoria.

Gardasil guards against strains of the human papilloma virus that cause 70 per cent of cervical cancers, and is administered to girls under 18 through a national vaccination program.

As of November 30, there had been 496 adverse reaction reports to the Therapeutic Goods Association with the HPV vaccine as the sole suspected cause.

In the US more than 2220 reports were lodged in 12 months, including controversial reports of more than seven deaths.

But Gardasil co-creator Ian Frazer, the Health Department and manufacturer CSL yesterday dismissed allegations of associated deaths in the US, claiming the women died of unrelated causes.

Prof Frazer, a leading immunologist and former Australian of the Year, blamed anti-immunisation groups for exaggerating data as a scare tactic against inoculation.

Immunisation specialist Dr Jim Buttery, who works at the Royal Children's Hospital, declared Gardasil safe but said all reports were taken seriously.

Although the TGA refused to reveal detailed results, it said Gardasil was monitored by the US FDA and Centres for Disease Control, and in Australia by the Adverse Drug Reaction Advisory Committee, the Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation and the National Immunisation Committee.

The TGA's Dr Rohan Hammett said: "All . . . advised that current rates of adverse reactions are consistent with those expected with any vaccine."

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Every year, thousands of American children go through the tearful, teeth-gritting ordeal of getting their vaccinations, only to be forced to do it all over again. The vaccines were duds, ruined by poor refrigeration.

It is more than a source of distress for parent and child. It is a public health threat, because youngsters given understrength vaccines are unprotected against dangerous diseases. And it accounts for a big part of the $20 million in waste incurred by the federal Vaccines for Children program.

"This is a substantial problem that needs to be addressed through prevention, and when problems are discovered, often times through revaccinations," said Dr. Lance Rodewald, director of immunization services at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta.

By CDC estimates, hundreds of thousands of doses of vaccines against such diseases as flu, diphtheria, tetanus, whooping cough, polio, mumps, measles, chicken pox and the cervical cancer virus are thrown out each year because of poor refrigeration at clinics, hospitals and doctors' offices.

In one recent case in Sioux City, Iowa, more than 1,000 families were notified by letter and telephone that they needed to get their children revaccinated. State officials found that the refrigerator at the clinic that administered the shots repeatedly dropped below freezing over a 17-month period in 2005 and 2006, potentially ruining the vaccines stored there.

"We just didn't notice it," said Dr. Ray Sturdevant, president of the Prairie Pediatrics and Adolescent Clinic.

Poor refrigeration has been blamed for similar problems elsewhere around the country over the past 2 1/2 years:

In St. Cloud, Minn., a clinic had to revaccinate 8,600 patients, most of them children.

In Lane County, Ore., 500 children and adults had to get another shot.

In western Florida, it happened to about 250 kids.

In Sioux City and other cases, the spoilage resulted from a combination of factors: The refrigerator malfunctioned or was not set or maintained at the proper temperature a problem that can be caused simply by leaving the door open for a while and the workers responsible for regularly logging the temperature did not seem to recognize when the readings were off.

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DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) - Every year, thousands of American children go through the tearful, teeth-gritting ordeal of getting their vaccinations, only to be forced to do it all over again. The vaccines were duds, ruined by poor refrigeration.

It is more than a source of distress for parent and child. It is a public health threat, because youngsters given understrength vaccines are unprotected against dangerous diseases. And it accounts for a big part of the $20 million in waste incurred by the federal Vaccines for Children program.

"This is a substantial problem that needs to be addressed through prevention, and when problems are discovered, often times through revaccinations," said Dr. Lance Rodewald, director of immunization services at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta.

By CDC estimates, hundreds of thousands of doses of vaccines against such diseases as flu, diphtheria, tetanus, whooping cough, polio, mumps, measles, chicken pox and the cervical cancer virus are thrown out each year because of poor refrigeration at clinics, hospitals and doctors' offices.

In one recent case in Sioux City, Iowa, more than 1,000 families were notified by letter and telephone that they needed to get their children revaccinated. State officials found that the refrigerator at the clinic that administered the shots repeatedly dropped below freezing over a 17-month period in 2005 and 2006, potentially ruining the vaccines stored there.

"We just didn't notice it," said Dr. Ray Sturdevant, president of the Prairie Pediatrics and Adolescent Clinic.

Poor refrigeration has been blamed for similar problems elsewhere around the country over the past 2 1/2 years:

- In St. Cloud, Minn., a clinic had to revaccinate 8,600 patients, most of them children.

- In Lane County, Ore., 500 children and adults had to get another shot.

- In western Florida, it happened to about 250 kids.

In Sioux City and other cases, the spoilage resulted from a combination of factors: The refrigerator malfunctioned or was not set or maintained at the proper temperature - a problem that can be caused simply by leaving the door open for a while - and the workers responsible for regularly logging the temperature did not seem to recognize when the readings were off.

"We do everything we can to advise and to make people aware that this is very expensive vaccines they're dealing with and we really want to handle it properly and store it properly to prevent these things from happening - but they do," said Charles Alexander, chief of immunization with the Florida Health Department.

Inadequate refrigeration can cause vaccines to lose their potency, although experts say spoiled childhood vaccines are not dangerous in themselves if given to a youngster.

And there are no known cases of children contracting a disease because they had been given a vaccine rendered ineffective by poor refrigeration. But it could happen, and "that's why we're concerned about it," Rodewald said.

Since 2000 the CDC has pushed state health departments to visit clinics and check their refrigerators. Most states require clinics to use refrigerators with reliable thermometers that can be monitored, and staff members must know what to do when temperatures are above or below the proper range, Rodewald said.

Waste costs the $2 billion-a-year federal Vaccines for Children Program about $20 million a year, and the biggest single problem is improper refrigeration, Rodewald said. Other causes: The vaccines expire or were damaged in shipment.

Rodewald had no breakdown of how much in waste is attributable to poor refrigeration. But he emphasized that the losses amount to an extremely small percentage of the childhood vaccine program.

"The childhood program saves $10 billion each year in direct health care costs by preventing disease among children," he said. "Although preventing vaccine wastage is a priority, the amount wasted should be placed in the context of the overall program economic benefits."

Altogether in 2006, there were 32 instances in Iowa in which vaccines were not refrigerated correctly, said Dr. Patricia Quinlisk, state epidemiologist. Quinlisk would not say how many patients were affected, but estimated $750,000 worth of vaccine in the Vaccine for Children Program was wasted.

"We will get months and months and months of vaccine refrigerator logs where the refrigerator is out of the temperature and nobody has done anything except every day mark down it's out of temperature," she said.

In the Minnesota case, the refrigerator was not kept at the proper temperature and there were gaps in documentation, said Jill Marette of the Minnesota Department of Health.

"It's stressful to vaccinate your children in the first place - just the idea of giving them all those shots. Then you have to think about getting revaccinated," Marette said.

Of greatest concern is the chickenpox vaccine. It must be kept frozen at an average temperature of 5 degrees or lower and should be kept in the dark. Children who receive an ineffective vaccine could easily become infected because the disease is fairly common in the U.S.

Dr. Joseph Bocchini, chairman of the Committee on Infectious Diseases with the American Academy of Pediatrics, said his group and others have issued clear recommendations about storing vaccines, and refrigerators can be equipped with alarms that sound when the temperature goes out of range.

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28 Women Miscarry After HPV Vax - FDA: No Problem

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The U.S. Food and Drug Administration said the cervical cancer vaccine Gardasil is safe despite that 28 U.S. women who received the vaccination had miscarriages, CNSnews.com reports.

Clinical trials show the vaccine's miscarriage rate is consistent with that of women in the general population who were given placebos, and most of the miscarriages reported cannot directly be connected to Gardasil, the FDA said.

Click here to read the whole story at CNSnews.com.

A 24-year-old woman miscarried in May after being vaccinated with Gardasil and an investigator reported to the federal government that the miscarriage "may have been caused by Gardasil because the patient received the injection within 30 days of the pregnancy."

The vaccine is used to prevent the human papillomavirus — a sexually transmitted disease believed to be the cause of most cases of cervical cancer.

There have been 3,461 adverse reactions, including eight deaths, reported since the vaccine was approved for use in girls as young as 9 in June 2006. The FDA and U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have concluded most side effects are minor and believe there is no reason to re-examine the drug's approval.


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Hello Jeff - As you note in the article below, it just gets worse. Pharmaceutical companies must be very thrilled with airport flu shot mills because this will bring in more revenue.

I think that taking any vaccine, especially one that people take on a yearly basis is risky. As the article points out below "thimerosal, is a preservative in flu shots." We know the varous poisons like Aluminum and Mercury are in these shots as are other poisonous substances. Taking a yearly flu shot even for 3, 4 or 5 years can increase a persons risk for Alzheimer's Disease tenfold. It is believed the Aluminum which goes directly to the brain sets people up for Alzheimer's Disease.

These "shots 'r us" clinics do not have a patient's records in front of them and have no idea if the traveler has HIV/Aids, Diabetes, etc. which could effect both the efficacy of the flu shot and the patient's health.

Do we need another vaccine mill? Vaccine should be looked upon as a dangerous drug and one would not carelessly take medication without first having a complete physical, tests, etc.

Atlanta airport plans on offering pneumococcal vaccine once flu season ends. In no time at all, we could see airport kiosks offering all types of vaccinations to anyone who wants one (whether they need it or not).

Last year Chicago's Ohare airport offered 5,000 flu shots. The idea of selling flu shots, and eventually pneumococcal vaccine from kiosks next to the airport gates is not a helpful one as the article would have us believe.

I would have preferred to see wash basins and castile soap set up at the gates so that people could wash their hands properly and reduce their risk for influenza. Flu shots do not prevent flu. It was discovered that flu shots are not as efficacious in the elderly and immune compromised as once purported by the vaccine companies. The best hope is that a flu shot MIGHT help in preventing some complications in some people and, maybe shorten duration of flu. It is not a silver bullet at all.

Let us hope these kiosks do not offer nasal flu vaccine sprays because passengers will be shedding flu virus as they use airport facilities and travel. This could cause influenza to travel and spread.

Airports Offering Flu Shots
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(ATLANTA) - After taking off shoes, pulling change out of pockets and going through security checkpoints, passengers now can roll up their sleeves and get a flu shot at gateside kiosks and health stations in some major U.S. airports.

Although health clinics at many U.S. airports have offered flu shots for years in public areas outside security checkpoints, officials found that few passengers want to risk missing their flights by getting vaccinated before clearing the checkpoints.

So this year, airports including those in Atlanta, Chicago, Denver and Newark, N.J., are offering flu shots in "airside" areas - passenger concourses inside the checkpoints.

"It's helpful being on the airside because people ... don't know how long its going to take getting through security so they don't want to take a risk of waiting in a medical clinic or being stuck in security and not making their plane," said Maureen Zampella, director of nursing and general operations manager of Harmony Pharmacy & Health Center Inc. The company offers flu shots at its clinic in Terminal C of Newark Liberty International Airport.

It takes less than five minutes to get vaccinated at an airside flu shot clinic, says Dr. Dominic Mack, chief medical officer of The AeroClinic, which has two flu shot kiosks in Concourse C of Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport.

The cost ranges from $15 to $35, depending on the clinic. Shots are available to most flyers. Exceptions include people with allergies to chicken eggs and feathers or thimerosal, a preservative in flu shots and contact lens solution. Most of the gateside clinics are in domestic concourses, but clinic officials say they provide service to passengers who connect to other domestic and international flights.

"It's a viable option ... especially for business travelers. They don't have time to go to the physician," Mack said. "This offers another option for the population to get their flu shots."
But passengers taking the shots won't be protected right away. Those vaccinated develop some immunity to the flu virus after three or four days. It takes about two weeks for a flu shot to offer full protection.

Being vaccinated now offers plenty of time for the shot to fully take effect before the peak flu season begins in the U.S., typically after December, Zampella said.

Danny Manzon of Jacksonville, Fla. wanted to get a flu shot for three months but the busy restaurant consultant never had the time to get vaccinated. So he jumped at the chance to get one from a kiosk near his airline gate at the Atlanta airport.

"The convenience is great," Manzon, 53, said after getting a flu shot on Tuesday from The AeroClinic kiosk, located in front of an AirTran Airways gate in Concourse C.

Ultimately, airport health clinics may offer more than flu shots to busy passengers near gates. Health officials say they're considering other kiosk-based services in the future, including more vaccinations and tests for high blood pressure or cholesterol.

"We're finding that's where people are," said Michelle Smith, spokeswoman for Denver Health, which operates the Medical Clinic at DIA, or Denver International Airport. "Especially if you're in an airport where a large percentage of our travelers are there for connecting flights, you want to be able to offer that convenience."

The Atlanta airport clinic is considering offering pneumococcal vaccine once the flu season ends, based on requests from travelers approaching the kiosks. It also may offer blood pressure and cholesterol tests at the kiosks in the future, Mack said. The Denver clinic wants to offer similar services and may also address altitude sickness, Smith said.

Last year, Chicago's O'Hare International Airport offered about 5,000 flu shots to airport passengers and employees from kiosks next to gates.

"We didn't know if it was going to be successful. It went over great and we asked the (Chicago) Department of Aviation this year to do kiosks full-time" at O'Hare and Chicago Midway Airport, said Dr. John Zautcke, medical director for the University of Illinois Medical Center at O'Hare. "Business travelers love it. They are just thanking us."

Dr. Nathaniel Hupert, assistant professor of public health and medicine at the Weill Medical College of Cornell University in New York, says the gate vaccination programs make sense as a public health measure.

"Anything that makes flu shots more accessible is a good thing," said Hupert, who has no connection to the flu shot clinics. "It's always helpful during normal times to try out new mechanisms (to distribute vaccine). This idea of offering vaccine in airports is actually an interesting and helpful step."

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The New Jersey Public Health Council is expected to vote tomorrow on a rule that would require flu vaccines for any child entering day care or preschool. If it is approved, New Jersey would become the first state in the country to impose that mandate.

The flu vaccine is one of four that the council will consider. There is a vaccine that would be given to children entering day care or preschool to protect against pneumonia, and two others that would be given to those entering sixth grade: one to guard against meningococcal disease, a fast-killing strain of meningitis, and the other an additional booster of a three-part shot already administered at a younger age against tetanus, pertussis and diphtheria.

If approved, the meningococcal vaccine requirement would also be a first in the nation for public school students. Currently, Massachusetts requires this vaccine for high school students at boarding schools. New Jersey and other states also mandate this vaccine for college students living in dormitories.

The final decision on the new vaccines will be up to Fred Jacobs, the state’s health commissioner, who “will take the recommendation of the council under advisement,” according to a spokesman. Currently, New Jersey requires that students be given a series of vaccines against nine diseases. The new vaccines would be required as of next September.

Since the new vaccines were first proposed last December, parents and doctors who oppose them have protested against the Department of Health and Senior Services. Thomas Slater, a spokesman for the department, noted that there had been “a good amount of public comment from both sides, and a very extensive review period” leading up to the meeting tomorrow.

At a public hearing in January, about 30 people complained about the proposed vaccines, citing possible side effects and insufficient evidence that they help prevent disease. On Friday, a group opposing the new vaccines held a news conference at the State House in Trenton. And people will have a chance to speak at tomorrow’s meeting, at the health department building in Trenton.

The decision to propose the additional vaccines, especially the one for the flu, was based on recommendations by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Food and Drug Administration, according to Dr. Eddy Bresnitz, New Jersey’s deputy commissioner of health and the state epidemiologist. Each year, 108 of every 100,000 children 5 or younger are hospitalized with complications from the flu, and about 100 die, according to the C.D.C.

“If you have children and they go to day care, they’re constantly getting sick,” said Dr. Bresnitz. He noted that children were also the best transmitters of influenza virus.

“We believe this will limit the disease, decrease hospitalization and prevent death,” he said, “not only for the children affected but also in the community at large.”

At present, 13 other states require pneumonia vaccines for preschool students, and 27 states have added the extra three-in-one booster for sixth graders. Two other states, Kansas and Vermont, recommend the meningococcal vaccine.

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This stunning censored interview conducted by medical historian Edward Shorter for WGBH public television (Boston) and Blackwell Science was cut from The Health Century due to its huge liability--the admission that Merck drug company vaccines have traditionally been injecting cancer viruses (SV40 and others) in people worldwide.

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Edmonton -- Alberta has suspended its campaign to vaccinate young people against mumps because of severe allergic reactions to the vaccine.

Alberta Health says it is holding off on inoculating 17- to 26-year-olds after five young people with a history of allergies had bad responses.

All five have recovered.

The campaign was undertaken because of an outbreak of mumps around the province.

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