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04-12-2009, 08:05 PM   #21
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Hetu versus Lo Shu

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 Originally Posted by sadukan PPS The count of 55 also appears at the scale level of 4, matching Nassim's 64 tetrahedral IVM grid: *stereogram (crossed-type)
Just thought I'd add that in the traditional analysis of Yi Jing "divination" the number 55 also figures as "Heaven and Earth" - the sum of the 25 Heavenly and 30 Earthly numbers.

Here's a paper I found discussing some reconstructed methods that differ from the "traditional" form as presented in Western media formats.

PS The tetrahedral number series doesn't quite match the breakdown - instead of 25/30 we have 20/35, though this seems to be based on a Hetu rather than Lo Shu arrangement. The Lo Shu arrangement yields 25 and 20, so this seems to suggest the addition of the 10th numeral in the centre of the Hetu to make 20+10=30. Although, bit-reduction of 10 (even) is 1 (odd), hence the apparent confusion.
PPS Also, the 216+144=360 breakdown was intriguing.

"over it is 19"[74:30]
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 07-12-2009, 03:57 PM #22 jtstatic Senior Member   Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 101 Likes: 0 (0 Posts) Something I did long time ago, you've probably been through this at the abradahabra forum dozen of times though.. I think I'd just post it here anyway. Just a small test I did when comparing the "original" solfeggio frequencies and their distances vs the "capstone" freq's. btw, does anybody know a VST plugin or another easy way to use these frequencies as a tuning base in a sequencer..? Last edited by jtstatic; 07-12-2009 at 03:57 PM.
 08-12-2009, 04:25 AM #23 mythmath Senior Member   Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 342 Likes: 0 (0 Posts) Here are a couple of recent graphs of the '27 tone Subset': 27 Tone Subset {Magic Sphere Arrangement** Each of the 9 circumferential rings supports 8 tones (i.e. 4 polar pairs) that sum to 440... Each ring 'orbits' around the central 55 Hubtone... 440 + 55 = 495 _______________________ _______________ More on the 27 Tone Subset in this post... _______________ ___________ More on the 'magic sum' of 495 in this post... ______________________ If you add up the tones on the 9 'circumference rings' (excluding the 55 Hubtone) you get the total 3960...* Which of course is the earth radius 'octave'... The distance from the earth's 'hub' to its circumference... ___________________ * Even though there are only 26 'ring tones' each tone appears on multiple rings... (9 rings x 8 tones = 72 iterations)... Each ring's tones sum to 440, so... 440 x 9 = 3960 . Last edited by mythmath; 08-12-2009 at 04:36 AM.
 08-12-2009, 04:26 AM #24 mythmath Senior Member   Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 342 Likes: 0 (0 Posts) 27 Tone Subset {Magic HemiCube Arrangement** The 9 tones on each rhombic face of the HemiCube total 495... And any 3 tones in a straight line combine to the magic constant of 165... 55 x 3 = 165 55 x 9 = 495 _________________________ 27 Tone Magic HemiCube {with TriChromatic Sigil** More on TriChromatic Sigil: Ternary Distribution
 09-12-2009, 02:40 PM #25 ian2day Inactive   Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ian2day.com Posts: 8,903 Likes: 3 (3 Posts) I was only yesterday thinking of the s frequencies and how they work. I then spot this thread and I am engrossed. Not got the frame of mind for a proper read of it all at the moment. Can I ask, is Ian one of the 72 three letter names for God? Hmm or perhaps my initials are.
09-12-2009, 03:33 PM   #26
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 Originally Posted by jtstatic btw, does anybody know a VST plugin or another easy way to use these frequencies as a tuning base in a sequencer..?

You know about Scala don't you?
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10-12-2009, 10:43 AM   #27
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 Originally Posted by bagatell You know about Scala don't you?
Yeah, I actually found about it just yesterday Will give it a try..

 11-12-2009, 08:21 AM #28 mythmath Senior Member   Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 342 Likes: 0 (0 Posts) {In the RED text below is an addendum/correction to post#24 above** In that post I showed this diagram: The 9 tones on each rhombic face of the HemiCube total 495... And any 3 tones in a straight line combine to the magic constant of 165...* 55 x 3 = 165 55 x 9 = 495 _________________________ * Upon closer examination I see that there are two diagonals, shown below, that are noncompliant, however if you sum both of these diagonals together you'll get 330, and of course, 330/2 = 165: Last edited by mythmath; 11-12-2009 at 08:22 AM.
 11-12-2009, 10:58 AM #29 jtstatic Senior Member   Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 101 Likes: 0 (0 Posts) Hmm, summing up the "rings" creates the following values: 132 middle 561 center 792 outer Interestingly, if you count values on both sides of the 3 dividing lines you get following values: 132 bottom 465 right 798 left anyway, that's 3 out of 8, however this gives you 6 6 6 total for all lines edge values. Another interesting thing, not sure if this is just a coincidence, but 666/212= pi to 4 decimal.. I believe 666 / 212 was somehow linked to genesis in gematria.. Last edited by jtstatic; 11-12-2009 at 11:04 AM.
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 Originally Posted by jtstatic Interestingly, if you count values on both sides of the 3 dividing lines you get following values: 132 bottom 465 right 798 left
Not sure what you mean by that...

either side of the 3 dividing lines, I got:

74+44+63+39+28+82=330

22+58+69+93+74+14=330

14+44+99+33+52+88=330

{330/6=55**

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 Another interesting thing, not sure if this is just a coincidence, but 666/212= pi to 4 decimal..
Where does the 212 come from...?

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 12-12-2009, 06:35 AM #31 jtstatic Senior Member   Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 101 Likes: 0 (0 Posts) Sorry, english is not my native language so I might express myself a bit wrong sometimes.. I only counted the values that are nearest to the line. For example 74+44=1 63+39=3 28+82=2 The sum of these values is 6 for one line. Not sure if we can really talk about line value though but concentration of numbers nearest to that area and their sum? Also the sum of all values leads to 330=6 but you get it three times for each so it's actually 9 reduced for all numbers around the line, that's why you only get total 6 if you sum the values that are nearest to the line. 212 is the last number from each rings sum, so again it is not that apparent and not sure if the result holds water as such. 13(2) 56(1) 79(2) It's a bit far fetched approach, so like I said it might just be coincidence. I wasn't looking for it but just noticed the numbers when I was testing other values and by conincidence had the article about gematria & 666 / 212 open at the same time, so it's a bit like "umm what" and "I guess that's ok.." kind of approach Sorry if I got you confused though Last edited by jtstatic; 12-12-2009 at 06:40 AM.
 13-12-2009, 08:22 PM #32 sphere555 Senior Member   Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 495 Likes: 3 (3 Posts) The Illuminati Uses Solfeggio Frequencies! I'm posting here based on information gathered from this thread: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=92955 The Illuminati secretly employs sacred Solfeggio harmonic frequencies in their many un-doings on the world. An example is the pandemic/vaccination scenario: 1910 => secret epidemic/pneumonic plague of Manchuria 1910 + 33 years (ie. 33rd Masonic degree) = 1943 => first influenza vaccine 1943 + 33 years = 1976 => swine flu vaccine 1976 + 33 years = 2009 => swine flu vaccine, the second coming 2009 + 33 years = 2042 => swine flu, the third coming? 2042 + 33 years = 2075 => swine flu, the fourth coming? 2075 + 33 years = 2108 => swine flu, the fifth coming? Now, do Pythagorean math (reducing compound numbers down to a single digit by adding all the digits): 1910 => 1 + 9 + 1 + 0 = 2 1943 => 1 + 9 + 4 + 3 = 17 = 1 + 7 = 8 1976 => 1 + 9 + 7 + 6 = 23 = 5 2009 => 2 + 9 = 11 = 1 + 1 = 2 2042 => 2 + 4 + 2 = 8 2075 => 2 + 7 + 5 = 14 = 1 + 4 = 5 2108 => 2 + 1 + 8 = 11 = 1 + 1 = 2 8-5-2-(8-5-2)-8-5-2 Hz is the harmonic tone of the Illuminati's sick vaccination/pandemic pranks! 8 - 5 - 2 (3 3 differences between the digits => hence 33 years apart between vaccination/pandemic pranks) One can only begin to wonder what other sick jokes the Illuminati pulls over the world's eyes with the harmonics of 741 Hz, and 963 Hz! (N.B.: The 18 sacred Solfeggio harmonic frequencies are based on permutations of (741), (852), and (963): 1- 147 2- 174 3- 258 4- 285 5- 369 6- 396 7- 417 8- 471 9- 528 10- 582 11- 639 12- 693 13- 714 14- 741 15- 825 16- 852 17- 936 18- 963 (I also highlighted 285 Hz along with 528 Hz b/c we do not know the actual "start" of the sequence, ...8-5-2-8-5-2-8-5-2...). But... in the mainstream media... the Six Solfeggio Harmonic Frequencies include: UT – 396 Hz – Liberating Guilt and Fear RE – 417 Hz – Undoing Situations and Facilitating Change MI – 528 Hz – Transformation and Miracles (DNA Repair) FA – 639 Hz – Connecting/Relationships SOL – 741 Hz – Awakening Intuition LA – 852 Hz – Returning to Spiritual Order "Order out of chaos", anyone?) Last edited by sphere555; 14-12-2009 at 12:32 AM.
 13-12-2009, 09:39 PM #33 sphere555 Senior Member   Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 495 Likes: 3 (3 Posts) Another person working on Lo Shu / Solfeggio frequencies: http://s402.photobucket.com/albums/pp106/Lee-Burton/
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 As shown above, the two scales of tones (also referred to as 'Mirrors') each contain 18 frequencies... These 2 frequency groups can each be represented by their respective 'seed frequencies'... Mirror One: 147, 258, 369 Mirror Two: 123, 456, 789
I've been reading about your work on other forums and am very confused. I'm not sure at all how you got the mirror numbers. One one post it seems you got them from adding or subtracting 18 from the original numbers, which with my calculations just didn't add up at all. I however wasn't able to find the page that said this. I'm going to try and go through this again tomarow. I'm sure there must be something of value here.
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 Originally Posted by mythmath The 81 Lo Shu Tones
It's interesting that the Tao Te Ching contains 81 chapters, is there any correlation?

 15-12-2009, 04:46 AM #36 mythmath Senior Member   Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 342 Likes: 0 (0 Posts) Sure, the 81 Shou (tetragrams) of the Tai Hsuan Ching have been historically linked to the 81 sections of the Tao te Ching... Much more info regarding the THC: Tai Hsuan Ching a GoGo enjoy, MythMath __________ PS - not to disregard any of Lee Burton's research, but he's been a frequent visitor to our threads at abrahadabra.com...
 15-12-2009, 04:53 AM #37 mythmath Senior Member   Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 342 Likes: 0 (0 Posts) chris com 283, If you have any specific questions, please feel free to ask, and I'll clear up anything that I can... Make sure you (re-)read the initial posts in this thread, especially post #4, as it shows precisely how the 81 (and, of course, the original 18) tones were generated... MythMath
 15-12-2009, 05:12 AM #38 mythmath Senior Member   Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 342 Likes: 0 (0 Posts) sphere555, For someone with such a beautiful avatar and such a positively-resonating nickname, your understanding of the Lo Shu Tones is somewhat deficient... Alas, I've done my best to establish the facts that the so-called 'Solfeggio Frequencies' are not ancient, nor could they have been used historically as 'sacred frequencies'... There is actually no historic proof that any of these specific number values were used (or even thought of) as audible sound frequencies until 1999... Please read through the first 3 or 4 posts of this thread, if you are interested in why and how I can claim these facts... Feel free to ask for any further expatiation... MythMath Last edited by mythmath; 15-12-2009 at 05:42 AM.
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 Originally Posted by mythmath sphere555, For someone with such a beautiful avatar and such a positively-resonating nickname,
Thanks.

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 your understanding of the Lo Shu Tones is somewhat deficient...

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 Alas, I've done my best to establish the facts that the so-called 'Solfeggio Frequencies' are not ancient, nor could they have been used historically as 'sacred frequencies'... There is actually no historic proof that any of these specific number values were used (or even thought of) as audible sound frequencies until 1999...
The Solfeggio frequencies were taken out of mainstream knowledge, thus were not known to the public until they were re-discovered in 1999.

How can you claim that Solfeggio frequencies were not known to the ancient secret societies when it was hard-coded into the bible? Remember, 741 and 852 are just phase shifts of 963. So if you were to encode the frequencies into something, all you have to do is encode one tone, and the rest can be derived by phase shift. So by extrapolation, the Illuminati would have known of the Solfeggio frequencies prior to 1999:

http://www.miraclesandinspiration.co...equencies.html

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 DR. JOSEPH PULEO and DR. LEONARD HOROWITZ – "THE MUSIC SHALL SET US FREE" The Solfeggio frequencies were essentially rediscovered by the late, Dr. Joseph Puleo, (pictured right), a naturopathic physician and one of America's leading herbalists, who began his research into this field in the mid-1970's. He was Divinely inspired to examine the Bible and he uncovered in Genesis: Chapter 7, Verses 12-83, that there were a pattern of six repeating codes around a series of sacred numbers, 3, 6 and 9. When deciphered using the ancient Pythagorean method of reducing the verse numbers to their single digit integers, the codes revealed a series of six electromagnetic sound frequencies that correspond to the six missing tones of the ancient Solfeggio scale.

Any insight on what the Illuminati hopes to accomplish with 852 and influenza/swine flu/vaccinations?

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 Originally Posted by sphere555 How can you claim that Solfeggio frequencies were not known to the ancient secret societies?
Here is a short list of some of the things
of ancient times did not have:

1. Any concept of identifying audible tones
in terms of 'cycles per second' (hertz).

2. Any way to observe or measure cycles per second.

3. Any way to observe or display seconds, for that matter.

So there is no way they could have identified
one pitch over another in a manner that would
correspond to specific frequencies (or hertz)...

Whatever means they did use to identify a given
pitch or harmonic relationship did not include
numbers that represented the vibrations of that
tone in terms of cycles per second or hertz...

CONCLUSION:

The Ancients did not have these 'sacred Solfeggio'
frequencies
available for use as sonic material...

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What they did have:

A vast and acute awareness of harmonic relationships;
long histories of mathematical discoveries of spirals
and Golden ratios and 'Fibonacci' sequences (long before
Fibonacci was ever born, btw) and organic proportions...

CONCLUSION:

The production of ancient sacred sounds did not rely on specific
frequencies, it relied on specific proportional harmonies...

It relied on

Just because there was no standardized tuning identified by specific frequencies,
the ancient musicians could still accurately tune their instruments to each other's
and singers could still generate exquisite and impeccable melodies and harmonies...

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Thanks for that, but I 'abandoned' the Solfeg thread to
start up the thread dedicated to what became known as
the 81 Lo Shu Tones, precisely for the reasons stated above...

I wanted to clearly establish that ancient cultures
did not (and could not) identify their musical/sonic
elements in terms of frequencies or 'cycles per second'...

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 Originally Posted by sphere555 [the Solfeggio tones were] hard-coded into the bible...
The only 'source' of this claim is Puleo/Horowitz (circa 1990's)...

How could this information that identified specific 'frequencies'
(a concept that did not yet exist) become encoded into the bible...?

And even if such information was somehow encoded,
how could it possibly retain its coherence through
several language translations with all of their
documented revisions, edits and outright deletions...?

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 Originally Posted by sphere555 Remember, 741 and 852 are just phase shifts of 963. So if you were to encode the frequencies into something, all you have to do is encode one tone, and the rest can be derived by phase shift.
sphere555, I don't mean you any disrespect but
are you a musician, or an electrical engineer...?

Do you know what the term 'phase shift' actually means...?

Could you explain how one might obtain the frequencies
of 741hz or 852hz by 'shifting the phase' of 963hz...?

If you are merely referring in the more general sense
of creating a related set of 3-digit number values by
'shifting the digits' to go from, say, 963 to 852 to 741
then this is very different from generating unique audible
frequencies by phase shifting a given reference tone...

Again, just because an ancient mathematician may have
had the related number values of 963, 852 and 741, that
person did not possess the knowledge or technology to
produce the audible frequencies of 963hz, 852hz and 741hz...

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