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Look at who came to power as a direct result of JFK's assassination - the neocons and PNAC. The same people waging war on the entire world.

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I’ve read a good book on the JFK assassination by Jim Marrs. The book has been reported as a major source for Oliver Stone’s movie JFK.
The book is 500+ pages, so it takes some time to read...


Driver William Greer
Presidential limousine driver William Greer claims that the limousine was moving at between 12 and 15 miles per hour when the first shot came.
Evidence shows that immediately after the first shot, Greer hit the brakes and the Lincoln slowed to almost a complete standstill. Secret Service that followed the car came close to the rear bumper.
Greer claimed that he was busy looking ahead to the railroad overpass and never looked back. This contradicts the film of the assassination where Greer looks back over his right shoulder several seconds prior to the fatal head shot.


Oswald didn’t shoot JFK or Tippit
Dallas police Chief Jesse Curry admitted: “We don’t have any proof that Oswald fired the rifle [that killed JFK], and never did”.
There was a tree that prevented a line of sight between the sixth-floor Book Depository window and the location of the first shot.
Even the FBI couldn’t prove that the slugs in Tippit’s body were fired from Oswald’s pistol.

According to an FBI report, Carolyn Arnold, who worked at the Book Depository, said she probably saw Lee Harvey Oswald standing in the first-floor hallway at about 12:20 p.m. In 1978, it was reported that Arnold says she saw Oswald in the second-floor lunchroom at 12:25 p.m.
The Warren Commission claimed no Depository employee saw Oswald after 11:55 a.m.

Fischer saw the head and shoulders of a man wearing a white T-shirt or possibly a light sport shirt in a southeast corner window of the Book Depository (Oswald was caught wearing a brown shirt). The man was surrounded by boxes and staring in the direction of the Triple Underpass.

Richard Carr said:
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The FBI came to my house—there were two of them—and they said they heard I witnessed the assassination and I said I did. They told me, “If you didn’t see Lee Harvey Oswald up in the School Book Depository with a rifle, you didn’t witness it.” I said, “Well, the man I saw on television that they tell me is Lee Harvey Oswald was not in the window of the School Book Depository. That’s not the man.” And [one of the agents] said I better keep my mouth shut. He did not ask me what I saw, he told me what I saw.
Shortly after this encounter with the FBI, Carr’s home was raided by Dallas policemen with a search warrant.
Carr moved to Montana to avoid harassment, but he once found dynamite placed in his car and he was also shot at. After testifying in the Clay Shaw trial in New Orleans, Carr was attacked by 2 men in Atlanta, who stabbed him in the back and left arm (Carr fatally shot one of his assailants).

Acquilla Clemons, who saw 2 men at the scene of the Tippit slaying, said a man with a gun came to her home and told her to keep quiet.

Ed Hoffman, who saw 2 men with a rifle behind the picket fence on the Grassy Knoll at the time of the assassination, was warned by an FBI agent to keep quiet “or you might get killed”.

Dallas policeman Tom G. Tilson Jr. saw Jack Ruby or “his twin brother” in a black car chasing away from the assassination.
This was corroborated by his daughter Judy Ladner.

By September 1977, Gary Mack had enhanced the quality of the sound tape and concluded that as many as 7 shots were fired at JFK.
In March 1978, the House Select Committee on Assassinations found out that more than 1 assassin was involved in Kennedy’s death.


Oswald FBI and/or CIA asset
Oswald’s Marine career is filled with inconsistencies and unexplained absences that suggest secret intelligence training.
Former executive assistant to the CIA’s deputy director, Victor Marchetti, said: “Basically, if Oswald had a 201 file, he was an agent”. It has been found out that Oswald had a “201 file”.
Military historian John M. Newman, discovered that Oswald, knowingly or unknowingly, was used by the CIA prior to the JFK assassination.

Then there’s the handwritten note, dated 8 November 1963, from Oswald to “Dear Mr. Hunt” (probably CIA officer E. Howard Hunt):
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I would like information concer[n]ing my position. I am asking only for information.
I am suggesting that we discuss the matter fully before any steps are taken by me or anyone else.



Autopsy
Lyndon B. Johnson was sworn in as president within 2 hours of the assassination. His first act as president was to violate the laws of his own state by ordering the removal of Kennedy’s body from Parkland Hospital.
The Dallas County medical examiner was required by law to conduct an inquest.

During the Clay Shaw trial, Dr. Pierre Finck was asked under oath who was in charge of the president’s autopsy. He replied:
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Well, I heard Dr. Humes stating that—he said, “Who’s in charge here?” And I heard an Army general, I don’t remember his name, stating, “I am.”
James Humes learned from the medical officials in Dallas that there was a bullet wound in Kennedy’s throat. The autopsy doctors had noticed an opening in the throat but had assumed it had been made at Parkland. This indicates that the wounds were altered from Dallas to the autopsy.
Humes was forced to revise his autopsy report upon learning of the throat wound. The autopsy doctors said the throat wound was 3 to 5 millimetres in diameter.

There is evidence that the supposed entry wound for the throat exit wound was between JFK's shoulder blades.
This is totally inconsistent with shots fired from 60 feet above and behind the president.

X-ray technician Jerrol F. Custer concluded that X-rays presented by the AMA of JFK “are fake X-rays”.
He told that a Navy admiral threatened him with prison if he spoke out regarding the autopsy.

Dr. Cyril H. Wecht, an experienced coroner and former president of the American Academy of Forensic Medicine stated: Kennedy’s autopsy was “extremely superficial and sloppy, inept, incomplete, incompetent in many respects, not only on the part of the pathologists who did this horribly inadequate medical-legal autopsy but on the part of many other people. This is the kind of examination that would not be tolerated in a routine murder case by a good crew of homicide detectives in most major cities of America”.


Zapruder film fraud
Abraham Zapruder was (also) a native of Russia and a 33 degree Freemason, who made the famous film of the shooting...

In 1971, author David Lifton examined a good-quality copy of the Zapruder film. He said the rear of Kennedy’s head in the critical moments following the head shot had been “blacked out” and he discovered “splices on the film which had never been mentioned by Time-Life”.

Movie expert Sydney Wilkinson was stunned by what she found in the blown-up frames:
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When I viewed the frames following the head shot, I felt the hair stand up on the back of my neck.
In the frames that weren’t blurry—frames 317, 321, 323, and others—a solid black ‘patch’ on the rear of his head jumped out at me. It was clearly artificial.
Kodak performed an authenticity study of the Zapruder film for the ARRB.
It was Kodak that developed the Zapruder film in the first place. Kodak should be considered a prime suspect of the changes made to the Zapruder film.


David Ferrie, Clay Shaw
Within days of Kennedy’s assassination, the FBI in New Orleans questioned David Ferrie, who denied any knowledge of the assassination. David Ferrie denied knowing Oswald, but it has been determined that he was once the Civil Air Patrol leader to the young Oswald.
Ferrie was also connected to New Orleans crime boss Carlos Marcello.

In late summer of 1963, David Ferrie introduced Oswald to both General Walker and Clay Shaw.
There are also reports that Walker knew Jack Ruby.

By late 1966, Jim Garrison had 2 suspects in mind in the murder of President John F. Kennedy — David Ferrie and (the socially connected) Clay Shaw.
On 22 February 1967 (2/22/’67, something numeric?), less than a week after newspapers reported on Garrison’s investigation, David Ferrie was found dead in his apartment.

In September 1967, Edward Whalen came to Garrison and told him that David Ferrie had offered him $25,000 to kill him. Whalen claims he declined the offer, and then Ferrie took him to Clay Shaw’s apartment, where both men tried to persuade him to assassinate Garrison.
Whalen even claimed that Ferrie told him he had helped set up the JFK assassination and that Oswald was a CIA agent.

The crux of the trial against Clay Shaw, director of the International Trade Mart, was whether Shaw was the same as Clay (or Clem) Bertrand. Garrison’s strongest piece of evidence was Shaw’s jail card, which showed he used the alias Clay Bertrand. Criminal District Court Judge Edward Aloysius Haggerty refused to allow the jail card to be introduced as evidence.
Clay Shaw died on 14 August 1974, reportedly of “lung cancer”.


Jack Ruby
Gerald R. Ford, who was on the Warren Commission, discovered an FBI memorandum that stated that “one Jack Rubenstein of Chicago” is working “for the staff of congressman Richard Nixon”.

Phil Willis, who already knew Ruby before the assassination, claimed that he had photographed Jack Ruby (Jacob Rubenstein) near the front of the Texas School Book Depository minutes after the assassination.

In the later summer of 1966, jail doctor Julian Mardock found Ruby was in good health. Several weeks later he was replaced by none other than Dr. Louis Joyon “Jolly” West, professor and director of the Neuropsychiatric Institute at the University of California–Los Angeles.
West was a government expert on torture and brainwashing in MKULTRA’s mind-control experiments. Some have claimed that in MKULTRA also cancer inducing experiments were performed.

Bruce McCarty used an electron microscope to find out that Ruby’s cancer cells originated in the digestive system. He was shocked that Ruby reportedly died from “lung cancer”.


Murder predictions
On 9 November 1963, a Miami police informant named William Somersett met with Joseph A. Milteer, who promptly began to outline the JFK assassination.
When Milteer telephoned Somersett, that Kennedy was due in Dallas shortly. Milteer commented that Kennedy would never be seen in Miami again.

Karen Bennett Carlin, who danced in Ruby’s club, was interviewed by the FBI on 24 November 1963.
Roger C. Warner reported:
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Mrs. Carlin was highly agitated and was reluctant to make any statement to me. She stated to me that she was under the impression that Lee Oswald, Jack Ruby, and other individuals unknown to her, were involved in a plot to assassinate President Kennedy and that she would be killed if she gave any information to the authorities.
Carlin also said that David Ferrie was so often in Ruby’s Carousel Club that she initially took him for the assistant manager of the club. Other Carousel employees confirmed that Ruby and Oswald were often together.


Dying witnesses
The London Sunday Times, concluded that on 22 November 1963, the odds against all the witnesses being dead by February 1967 were more than a trillion to one.

In 1963, 1964, the following people died...
Jack Zangretti, who expressed foreknowledge of Oswald’s shooting;
Gary Underhill, a CIA officer who claimed the CIA was involved.
Former Ruby employees Betty McDonald and Teresa Norton;
Hank Killam, husband of a Ruby employee;
Dallas reporters Bill Hunter and Jim Koethe, who had seen Ruby’s apartment the weekend of the assassination.
Guy Banister and his private investigator Hugh Ward;
Eddie Benavides, brother to J. D. Tippit shooting witness Domingo Benavides;
C. D. Jackson, the Life magazine senior vice president who locked away the Zapruder film.

In 1965, 1966...
Tom Howard, Ruby’s first lawyer;
Maurice Gatlin, Guy Banister’s pilot;
Rose Cheramie, who predicted the assassination;
William Whaley, the cabdriver who reportedly drove Oswald to Oak Cliff;
Joe Brown, Ruby trial judge;
Earlene Roberts, Oswald’s landlady;
Marilyn Delilah Walle and Karen Carlin, dancers for Ruby;
Captain Frank Martin, the Dallas cop who said there was a lot more to the assassination;
Lee Bowers Jr., who saw men behind the wooden picket fence;
William Pitzer, photographed the JFK autopsy, died of a “suicide”;
James Worrell Jr., saw someone flee the rear of the Texas School Book Depository;
Clarence Oliver, a district attorney investigator on the Ruby case;
Hank Suydam, Life magazine official who reported on the assassination.

In 1967, 1968...
Jack Ruby;
Harold Russell, witnessed the escape of Officer Tippit’s killer;
David Ferrie, who died from a blow to the neck ruled accidental;
Eladio Del Valle, former Ferrie roommate;
Dr. Nicholas Chetta, New Orleans coroner, who had ruled on Ferrie’s death;
Philip Geraci, spoke of an Oswald–Clay Shaw connection.

Jim Marrs identifies many more deaths. That people die isn’t suspicious, but the many deaths sure are.


Jim Marrs - Crossfire; The Plot That Killed Kennedy (first published 1989, hugely updated): https://www.docdroid.net/mpkaoHb/jmcro.pdf
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Disinformation stories

If you’ve ever tried to investigate the JFK assassination, you probably got caught in all of the fake, disinformation. This includes people “confessing” being involved in the plot to assassinate John F. Kennedy.
I’m not sure that ALL of the stories in this post are “fake”, but I would be surprised if more than 1 of them is true...


According to E. Howard Hunt’s son, St. John, his pathological lying father, told him in August 2003 that he was involved in murdering John F. Kennedy. Howard Hunt has also repeatedly denied that he was involved in any way.
In 1973, E. Howard Hunt, pleaded guilty and spent 33 months in prison for the Watergate burglary that got rid of President Nixon. He was succeeded by Warren Commission member Gerald R. Ford (who pardoned Nixon) and vice president Nelson “Rocky” Rockefeller.

E. Howard wrote that the men responsible for murdering JFK, were:
Lyndon Baines Johnson (LBJ), Vice president (who became president the day of the assassination).
Cord Meyer, a CIA agent whose wife had an affair with JFK. His wife was later murdered;
Bill Harvey, CIA;
David Morales, CIA;

David Atlee Phillips, CIA;
Bill (William) Harvey, CIA;
Antonio Veciana, Cuban CIA agent;
Frank Sturgis, CIA;
French Gunman Grassy Knoll (possibly Corsican Mafia assassin Lucien Sarti).

St. John said that his father wrote all of this down, but didn’t provide any evidence…

St. John made his story more interesting by claiming that he remembered 1963, and his dad was away, and his mom told him that he was on a “business trip to Dallas”.
St. John also said that on 18 June 1972 (around the time of Watergate), he helped his father dump microphones, walkie-talkies, cameras, tripods, cords, wires, and other “weird stuff” into the C&O Canal.


LBJ’s long-time mistress Madeleine Duncan Brown claims that Lyndon B. Johnson met with Dallas tycoons the night before the Kennedy assassination, and after the meeting said to her: “After tomorrow, those goddamn SOBs will never embarrass me again -- that's NOT a threat -- that's a promise”.
Brown said that the plan to kill JFK had its origins in the 1960 Democratic Convention, where American oil tycoon H.L. Hunt, and Johnson hatched the assassination plot: "It was a total political crime and H.L. Hunt really controlled what actually happened to John Kennedy - he and Lyndon Johnson": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79lOKs0Kr_Y

I’m not saying that Madeleine Brown wasn’t Johnson’s mistress, and she certainly said it, but why would he say this to his mistress (especially if he knew of the assassination plot)?
How could she know about the 1960 Democratic Convention?



David Morales (CIA) was Chief of Operations at the CIA's JM/WAVE and told friends when he was drunk: "I was in Dallas when we got the son of a bitch and I was in Los Angeles when we got the little bastard".
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TWYMAN: Do you have an opinion formed as to whether or not he did participate in the Kennedy assassination?
ROBERT WALTON: I have NO doubt. When he told me, "We got that son of a bitch," he told me he was in Dallas. He said, "I was in Dallas and I was in L.A. when we got that Bobby, too.”
David Morales (aged 53) died of a sudden “heart attack” in 1978: http://www.ufoconspiracy.com/reports/kennedy-vm.htm
(archived here: http://archive.is/vy5en)


In May 1998, author Walt Brown said that fingerprints belonging to Malcolm E. "Mac" Wallace, a convicted killer with ties to LBJ, were found on a box in the "sniper's nest" on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository.
Fingerprint experts replied that the print was CLEARLY not a match. They said that it is NOT uncommon to have a set of prints of 2 people with many matching points, but when they find points that DO NOT match (which they identified), this shows that this is a different person: http://archive.is/http://spot.acorn....breakthru.html


Three tramps were arrested and photographed by several newspapers shortly after the assassination of President Kennedy. There has been much speculation on who they really were.

The “three tramps” are: 1 Harold Doyle (32); 2 John Forrester Gedney (38); 3 Gus Abrams (53).
There have been rumours that they really were, including:
1 - James Earl Ray, convicted Assassin of Martin Luther King; or Frank Sturgis, CIA operative involved in the Watergate break-in;
2 - Charles Harrelson, convicted assassin of a Federal Judge in Texas (and father of famous actor Woody Harrelson);
3 - E. Howard Hunt, CIA Agent, Watergate burglar.

In September 1982, Charles Harrelson "confessed" to killing federal judge John H. Wood Jr. and President Kennedy to the police: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_tramps

If these “tramps” were arrested, they were obviously not in on the plot…
Charles Harrelson "confessed" killing JFK - Why...


Mob hit man James Files claims in the documentary “I Killed JFK” that he killed JFK from the grassy knoll. Files says the other shot that hit Kennedy came from his boss, Charles “Chuckie” Nicoletti (a hit man for Chicago mob boss Sam Giancana), who fired from the book depository (from where Lee Harvey Oswald supposedly shot).
James Files also claimed that Johnny Roselli (also on the payroll of Giancana) was involved.
Files has met with Oliver Stone three times.

Bizarrely James Files claims that he didn’t carefully dispose of the shell casing from the bullet that killed John F. Kennedy in Dealey Plaza, but instead he put it on top of the picket fence on the grassy knoll, after he had bitten on the shell casing.
In 1987, a shell casing was found at some distance from the spot where Files said he left it with marks that could have been made by human teeth.
There is not a shred of evidence that this shell casing had anything to do with the JFK assassination…

Tosh Plumlee, a CIA contract pilot, has said that he flew Roselli to Dallas on a CIA-flight from Florida on the morning of 22 November 1963.
Chauncey Marvin Holt, deceased in 1997, was a CIA operative who worked for crime-bosses Meyer Lansky and Peter Licavoli. Holt has testified that he was one the “three tramps”, and that he drove with Charles Nicolletti to Dallas.

Retired FBI-agent Zack Shelton told private investigator Joe West that he had reason to believe that James Files knew more about the Kennedy assassination.
Zack said that Joe Granata told him that Nicoletti had told him that Nicoletti, Roselli, Marshall Caifano and Jimmy Sutton, were the "hit team on Dealey Plaza".
I don’t have a clue who Joe Granata is, why Nicoletti would tell him or why he told an FBI agent what he had heard…

Joe West asked James Files if he was involved in the assassination. Then Joe went into a hospital for heart surgery, but then “out of nowhere” he died.
Because Files thinks Joe was murdered James Files decided to tell his story to Bob Vernon, who took over from Joe.

James Files said that his CIA supervisor was David Atlee Phillips. According to his nephew Shawn Phillips, David told his brother James Atlee Phillips that he was in Dallas the day Kennedy died.
I really don’t have a clue why nobody asked James Atlee Phillips…: http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/filestruth.htm

The last story sounds very convincing but most of it is hearsay without a shred of evidence. The most ridiculous in this story is biting on the shell casing…


French intelligence agent Christian David, has claimed that he was first offered the contract to kill President Kennedy.
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David claimed Antoine Guerini told him he hired Lucien Sartri, who recruited 2 Frenchmen, to kill John F. Kennedy.
This was confirmed by Michel Nicoli, who named the other 2 snipers as Francois Chiappe and Jean-Paul Angeletti.
https://forum.davidicke.com/showpost...0&postcount=40

I think it’s highly unlikely that a French secret agent was hired.
Furthermore I can’t imagine how David would know who was hired next…



There are a lot more fake stories (if I’ve included a story in this post that isn’t “fake” let me know). This is what makes it so difficult to “investigate” the JFK assassination!
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There are lots of “conspiracy theories” that the CIA assassinated JFK.
I’ve read the relatively short “Torbitt Document” (ten times as short as Jim Marrs Crossfire) by William Torbitt (a pseudonym) that makes a convincing case that it was really Division Five of the FBI…
The author presents his information like it’s all factual. If it’s true Marrs book is filled with irrelevant information and leaves the best part out.
I am still not sure if it is factual or the author mixed up facts with fiction (based on some of the fake stories going around). In general my advice is to not believe anything before checking yourself, and especially don’t believe any “conspiracy theory” on the JFK assassination.


H.L. Hunt was the prime funder of Permindex, also John Connally, Halliburton, Brown and Root, Roy Cohn, and Heineken Canada (Dutch billionaire Freddie Heineken was also in the little black book of Jeffrey Epstein…).

In 1962, French fascists tried to have General de Gaulle assassinated. They fired more than 100 rounds at his bulletproof car; the driver accelerated and De Gaulle wasn’t injured. De Gaulle’s intelligence traced the financing of the murder attempt to Permindex in Switzerland and Centro Mondiale Commerciale (a.k.a. World Trade Center Corporation) in Rome, Italy. France complained, which resulted in Permindex losing its Swiss charter and Centro Mondiale Commerciale having to move to South Africa.
Pentagon agents offered General Maurice Challe, who orchestrated the attempt, support if the coup d’état succeeded.
French intelligence also traced the assassination attempt to Division Five of the FBI in the NATO headquarters in Belgium and the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) in the US. De Gaulle ordered all NATO units from French soil.
Kennedy offered De Gaulle his assistance to stop the assassination attempts against him.

Jerry Milton Brooks testified that Maurice Brooks Gatlin Sr for Permindex transported $100,000 to France to finance the assassination attempt. Jack Ruby was a close associate of Gatlin for more than 10 years (they delivered army jeeps to Fidel Castro). Gatlin worked directly under Guy Banister.
In 1964, Gatlin fell or was thrown from the 4th floor of a hotel in Panama and died.

Director of Permindex Louis Bloomfield supervised all the contracts with Division Five agents of the FBI, and was a friend of J. Edgar Hoover.
In 1962, Bloomfield ordered George Mandel and Ferenc Nagy (former PM of Hungary and president of Permindex) to the US to plan the assassination.
The Russian Solidarist Tolstoy Foundation also funded the assassination of JFK. The Solidarist (White Russian) movement was also closely associated with David Ferrie, who became a Solidarist priest, and was involved in the JFK plot. Ferrie was in Dallas on 24 November 1963 and admitted he was connected to Jack Ruby.
Jack Ruby was also very close to Roy Cohn.

Banister had been the head of Division Five in Chicago until 1955, but was placed on a retainer by J. Edgar Hoover, but continued to work for the FBI, while officially working for the New Orleans Police Department.

In 1956, Ferrie recruited Lee Harvey Oswald into Division Five before he joined the USMC. Oswald received training from the Solidarists.
White Russians Gali Clark, and husband Max (of General Dynamics), close friends of John Connally, were the first agents of the Defense Industrial Security Command (a subsidiary of the DIA) that contacted Lee and Marina Oswald after they returned from Russia in 1962.

J. Edgar Hoover, Clint Murchison, Paul Raigorodovsky and others met the night of 21 November 1963, to discuss the final arrangements on killing JFK. Mafia boss Carlos Marcello gave David Ferrie final instructions in the early hours of 22 November. Jack Ruby was one of Marcello’s men in Dallas.
Marcello, Joe Bonanno and Gutierez de Spadafora were long-time associates and top mobsters in the Mafia.
Another planning member working for Lyndon Baines Johnson was H.L. Hunt.
Wernher von Braun was close to J. Edgar Hoover and Lyndon B. Johnson. Von Braun was also in contact with the people in control of the assassination.

The assassins came from Mexico, a group of 30 expert riflemen, who were involved in assassinating all over North and Latin America and East Europe. Three of them stayed at Tammie True’s house (a stripper for Ruby).
Former CIA agent Emilion Santana (close to Clay Shaw and Roy Cohn) fired from the Dal-Tex building.
William Seymour, who looked very much like Oswald, fired a rifle from the sixth floor of the Book Depository, hitting JFK once in the back; 2 of his shots missed. Seymour was the one who killed officer J.D. Tippit.
Manuel Gonzales fired from the fence on the Grassy Knoll; his shot killed Kennedy instantly.

William Torbitt – Nomenclature of an Assassination Cabal (1970): http://www.ctrl.org/essay2/torbitt.html
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According to Torbitt, on 22 November 1963, Ferenc Nagy appeared in more than 35 photos at the site of the assassination. He is standing with an open umbrella signalling the riflemen.
There are some interesting stories on “Umbrella Man” and “Dark Complected Man”. Most of them don’t identify the man with the umbrella as Nagy...
See some pictures of “umbrella man” and “dark complected man” (who looks to have a black or Latin skin colour).


“Umbrella Man” held an open umbrella while the “Dark Complected Man” waved his arm into the air when the limousine with JFK passed them. Some “conspiracy theorists” have argued that both men were signalling the shooters or driver William Greer, who “coincidentally” came to a stop where they were standing.
There were also 3 “yellow markings” on the sidewalk. This makes it more probable that the driver had to slow down at this precise location. According to the late Jack White yellow markings weren’t commonly used in Dallas at that time.


Directly after the assassination both men sat calmly down next to each other. Dark complected man appears to hold some type of communication device (like a radio) and was talking on it moments after the assassination.
Then they both got up and slowly walked away - Dark complected man toward the Triple Underpass while Umbrella man walked in the direction of the School Book Depository.

After “umbrella man” got some attention in the press, 15 years after the assassination, suddenly Steven Louie Witt came forward and claimed it was him but he had nothing at all to do with the assassination. He even brought the supposed umbrella.
In 1978, Witt claimed he held up the umbrella as a protest to JFK. It has later been explained that the “umbrella” was a symbol of the 1930s British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain, while JFK’s father Joseph Kennedy was ambassador to Britain at the time.
There has never been any evidence that Witt was Umbrella man and it has not even been tried to find out who Dark complected man was.
Besides that Witt’s explanation is less than convincing, what he told don’t track with what Umbrella Man actually did.

In 1963, Witt was an insurance salesman for the Rio Grande National Life Insurance company. Rio Grande was housed in the eponymous Rio Grande Building in Dallas, which “coincidentally” was repeatedly visited by Lee Harvey Oswald (the Office of Immigration and Naturalization was also housed in the building).
Grande National’s biggest client was the Military Intelligence, led by Jack Crichton of the 488th Military Intelligence Detachment. Crichton was also a CIA asset who worked closely with George H.W. Bush (CIA) to raise funds for the Cuban exile commando group Operation 40.

Some researchers think that Umbrella Man was really CIA man Gordon Novel or rogue agent Roy Hargraves.
Over the years 2 anti Castro Cubans have been suggested to be Dark Complected Man: Orlando Bosch of Operation 40 and Felipe Vidal Santiago: http://oswaldinthedoorway.blogspot.c...ticle-was.html
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Nagy, Bloomfield – Rothschild, Rockefeller

I think that the group of people described by “William Torbitt that planned the assassination is accurate, but I seriously doubt that the presented details on what happened on 21 and 22 November 1963 in Dallas are accurate.
I don’t believe at all that former Hungarian PM Ferenc Nagy would take such a risk of standing close to the spot where JFK was killed signalling with an open umbrella!

In 1946, Ferenc Nagy was elected Prime Minister of Hungary. He was forced to resign after his 5 years old son was kidnapped, and he immigrated to the US.
Nagy became active in CIA “anti-communist” projects, particularly in Latin America and Cuba. Nagy eventually moved to Dallas, Texas where he resided in 1963.
Ferenc Nagy had visited Guy Banister's detective office in New Orleans.

Ferenc Nagy’s CIA controller and CIA Deputy Director of Plans, Frank Wisner, described Nagy as a “long-time asset” of the CIA. Frank Wisner was also the superior of William Harvey and Cord Meyer.
The following CIA memo (dated 24 March 1967) indicates that:
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NAGY, Ferenc, (…) was a cleared contact of the International Organizations Division. His 201 file [i.e. its CIA personal file] contains a number of references to his association with the World Trade Center.


In 1959, Montreal attorney Stanley Vineberg, from the Phillips, Bloomfield, Vineberg and Goodman law firm, and French bankers Edmond de Rothschild and François Pereire were involved in one of the earliest Permindex real estate deals ever. This consisted in Permindex buying lands from Countess Calvi, a member of the Savoy Royal family, who was represented by Carlo d’Amelio, a director of Centro Mondiale Commerciale.
On 1 April 1959, Louis Bloomfield sent three cables that show Edmond de Rothschild’s links to Permindex.
In a first cable, he urged the Romanian born Permindex’s Italian director Georges Mantello (a.k.a. Mandel) to have his son Enrico provide legal and fiscal documentation to “Pereire” - François Pereire from the Compagnie Financière, a private Paris bank in which Edmond de Rothschild was the principal shareholder.
Another 1 April 1959 document, shows that Louis Bloomfield was discussing directly with Edmond de Rothschild about Permindex real estate affairs. In this letter sent to Abraham Friedman of the Israel Continental Oil Company in Israel, Bloomfield refers to a previous cable in which he informed Pereire of his project to go to Paris and asked if he could meet “Edmond” (Edmond de Rothschild) and discuss Capacotta (the location of one of the Permindex real estate deals near Rome): http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hZSHNwvpFs...tta+590401.jpg

In 1960, Nagy initiated contacts with David Rockefeller; Rockefeller collaborated with Permindex and Centro Mondiale Commerciale (which translates World Trade Center).
On 4 February 1960, Louis Mortimer Bloomfield wrote from its Montreal law office to Dr Ernest Wolf, a Permindex director in Basle, Switzerland:
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You’ll be pleased to hear that David Rockefeller had a meeting yesterday with Dr Nagy, which I was unable to attend on account of my present physical condition. It was a great success.
On 10 February 1960, Bloomfield wrote:
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I am going to New York tonight for very important meeting with Dr. Nagy, the Port of New York Authority and Mr. David Rockefeller’s personal representative, on a scheme of collaboration between the two groups. (…)
Following the meetings tomorrow and Friday, we are to have a second meeting with Mr. David Rockefeller some time next week, but in view of the cries and complaints from the shareholders, I have no alternative but to postpone my meeting with Mr. Rockefeller in order to examine the situation in Europe on the spot.


The documentation shows that Bloomfield or Nagy weren’t really in charge of Permindex, but only front men (for Rothschild?).
Bloomfield described Permindex’s George Mantello as a 33rd degree Freemason with contacts in the Savoy Royal family. Probably Permindex was coupled with the Propaganda Due (P2) freemasonic lodge that was staging the “strategy of tension” false flag attacks: http://somesecretsforyou.blogspot.com/
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What this information shows is that the same “criminals” that control the FBI also control the CIA and politicians…
Documents prove that Louis M. Bloomfield was acting as attorney for Baron Edmond de Rothschild.
Bloomfield received numerous honorary degrees. Queen Elizabeth awarded him the Order of the Knight of Justice and the Most Venerable Order of the Hospital of St. John of Jerusalem

In 1942, when the Office of Strategic Services was started, Louis Mortimer Bloomfield was recruited into the OSS and given the rank of major. Later, when the OSS evolved into the CIA, Bloomfield continued contract work for the CIA.

J. Edgar Hoover and William Sullivan were controllers of the Defense Industrial Security Command (DISC), while Bloomfield was even in control over them and DISC.
DISC agents included: Clay Shaw, Guy Banister, David Ferrie, Lee Harvey Oswald, and Jack Ruby, all of whom received payments from it: https://nodisinfo.com/bloomfield/


Bloomfield was also president of Heineken Canada.
Roy Cohn was a very close friend of Lewis Rosenstiel, who was in turn friends with Sam Bronfman.

From William Torbitt’s document:
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The principal financiers of Permindex were a number of U. S. oil companies,
H. L. Hunt of Dallas,
Clint Murchison of Dallas,
John de Menil,
Solidarist director of Houston,
John Connally as executor of the Sid Richardson estate,

Halliburton Oil Co.,
Senator Robert Kerr of Oklahoma,
Troy Post of Dallas,
Lloyd Cobb of New Orleans,
Dr. Oschner of New Orleans,

George and Herman Brown of Brown and Root,
Houston, Attorney Roy M. Cohn,
Chairman of the Board for Lionel Corporation, New York City, Schenley Industries of New York City, Walter Dohrnberger, ex-Nazi General and his company,
Bell Aerospace,
Pan American World Airways, its subsidiary, Intercontinental Hotel Corporation,
Paul Raigorodsky of Dallas through his company,
Claiborne Oil of New Orleans,
Credit Suisse of Canada,
Heineken's Brewery of Canada,
and a host of other munition makers and NASA contractors directed by the Defense Industrial Security Command.
Note that this was written years before George H.W. Bush became CIA director in 1976 (selected by Warren Commission member President Ford)…

George H.W. Bush has repeatedly denied that he worked for the CIA before 1976.
The following 29 November 1963 memorandum from FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover refers to the information on the assassination of President Kennedy that was "orally furnished to Mr. George Bush of the Central Intelligence Agency". The CIA still denied that George Herbert Walker Bush worked for them at that time.


Now let’s look at some of the corporations that financed the Permindex that orchestrated the assassination of JFK…

Prescott Bush (George Sr's father) was a partner of Brown Brothers and on the board of Dresser for decades. Prescott Bush’s father-in-law, George H. Walker, also worked for the Brown Brothers.
The biggest contributors to George H.W. Bush’s campaigns were his uncle Herbie Walker and Eugene Meyer, whose father worked his entire career for Lazard Freres (a.k.a. Lazard Brothers), controlled by officials in the British government. Lazard Freres was the investment bank of David Rockefeller.

In 1995, Cheney was chosen as CEO of Halliburton (owner of Brown and Root). Brown and Root reaped multi-millions from the Bosnia war and Halliburton also made huge profits from the “war on terror” that was launched after 9/11.
In 1998, Halliburton purchased Dresser Industries for $8.1 billion (officially Dresser and Halliburton merged).
Dresser Industries was owned and operated by Brown Brothers Harriman.

In the same year that Zapata and Pennzoil were moving toward hostile takeovers, the new Swiss Bank for Investment and Credit Berne (BICB) was opened in Houston with J. Hugh Liedtke and George Bush's securities adviser, W.S. Farish III, among the directors.
Its stock was owned by Capital National Bank and Paravicini Bank.
Investors in the bank included Seagrams (of the Bronfmans), Boeing, the London subsidiary of Brown and Root and the Schlesinger Organization of London and Johannesburg.

The chairman of the Houston-based “Swiss” bank BICB was Johan F. (Fred) Paravicini.
The attorney for the Venetian family of Paravicini, Carlo d'Amelio, was also the attorney for Centro Mondiale Commerciale (the Italian arm of Permindex).
D'Amelio sat on the board of directors of Centro Mondiale Commerciale when Seagrams' attorney, Louis Mortimer Bloomfield of Montreal, was chairman of Permindex: http://fathersmanifesto.net/bronfman.htm


It looks like the same group of families; organisations that were involved in murdering John F. Kennedy in 1963 were also involved in staging 9/11 in 2001: https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=322735

What I can’t understand about JFK is that he was riding around in an open limousine (did he think he was bulletproof?).

On 27 April 1961, President John F. Kennedy’s made his “Secret Society Speech”, in which he talks about a “Ruthless conspiracy” and the use of “subversion” to keep us in chains: https://youtu.be/xhZk8ronces

That was directly after the failed Algiers putsch by French generals aided by the CIA (in May 1961, Jackie and JFK visited De Gaulle in France): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algiers_putsch_of_1961
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The assassins came from Mexico, a group of 30 expert riflemen, who were involved in assassinating all over North and Latin America and East Europe. Three of them stayed at Tammie True’s house (a stripper for Ruby).
Former CIA agent Emilio Santana (close to Clay Shaw and Roy Cohn) fired from the Dal-Tex building.
William Seymour, who looked very much like Oswald, fired a rifle from the sixth floor of the Book Depository, hitting JFK once in the back; 2 of his shots missed. Seymour was the one who killed officer J.D. Tippit.
Manuel Gonzales fired from the fence on the Grassy Knoll; his shot killed Kennedy instantly.
I’ve looked for information on the 3 shooters named by “William Torbitt” and couldn’t even find the sources on which his information was based.
“Torbitt” names as his source the “New Orleans District Attorney Records” (of Jim Garrison), but I haven’t found these. I didn’t find the parts of these records where this information comes from. There are a reported 16,000 pages that Jim Garrison’s son made public after Garrison died. The information could be buried somewhere in those 16,000 pages.
After Oliver Stone’s JFK was release in 1991, Jim Garrison would have gotten much attention to tell his story, but he died in October 1992 of “cancer” (at first it was reported that he was bedridden by “heart disease”).

While it’s likely that he was involved, the story on William “Billy” Seymour is improbable because “Torbitt” gives him a triple role:
1) Impersonating Lee Harvey Oswald in 1963, to frame him;
2) Shooting JFK from the Texas School Book Depository;
3) Murdering J.D. Tippit.
Seymour could have been Tippit’s killer, but I do NOT think he was the shooter from the Book Depository (from where Oswald supposedly shot JFK).

Here’s a picture of Seymour (he does resemble Oswald)…


I haven’t found any good information on Manuel Garcia Gonzalez at all. This could be his picture.


Emilio Santana was certainly a person of interest to Jim Garrison (see his picture).


See the transcript of the interrogation of Miguel Torres by Jim Garrison’s assistant James Alcock where he asks him about Santana (August 1967):
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Q - Did you attend the meeting with Sergio Arcacha Smith and Emilio Santana in the 1300 block of Dauphine St. in the summer of 1963?
A - I did visit a house in the 1300 block of Dauphine, it was on the lefthand side going uptown and Emilio Santana was there and Sergio Arcacha Smith was not there.
https://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/j...pdf/Torres.pdf


I have found another story by Richard Sprague (certainly no masterpiece but I haven’t found anything better...) that names 2 of the shooters of JFK as William Seymour and Emilio Santana, but the story is more dubious than the document by “William Torbitt”…

The riflemen selected were:
Jack Lawrence and “Frenchy” on the grassy knoll;
Emilio Santana (Cuban) in the Dal Tex building;
William Seymour in the Depository Building.
Bizarrely Sprague names the “umbrella man” as the fifth gunman, who had a high-tech umbrella weapon (and shot JFK in his throat with a dart to paralyse him); accompanied by another Cuban as radio man.
Frenchy was the one who fired the fatal shot through the trees from his position behind the fence.

Jim Hicks was set up as radio coordinator and each of the riflemen had a man with him with a radio:
Fred Crisman and unidentified American (tall tramp), grassy knoll;
Jim Braden, Dal Tex;
and a man in the TSBD Building.

John Howard Bowen (a.k.a. Albert Osborne) was in charge of the Dallas teams.

Sprague doesn’t know the name of “Frenchy” but claims that he was a French Canadian CIA contract agent who knew Howard, Hall, Seymour, Hemming, and Santana and was also involved in the M.L. King assassination.
William Seymour was a Mexican-American contract killer.
Jack Lawrence was a resident of West Virginia and southern California.

Sprague identifies the killed Dallas policemen J.D. Tippit, as involved in the plot as he would drive 2 of the assassins, Seymour and his radio man, away in his police car.
Police Lieutenant Batchelor escorted Jack Ruby into the jail to murder Oswald was also involved.

They framed Oswald by taking his rifle before 22 November, fired several shots from it, and preserved 3 shells, one bullet, and several bullet fragments. They also took Oswald's pistol, fired several shots from it and saved the shells.
William Seymour, after shooting policeman Tippit, ran away to attract attention, throwing the shells from Oswald's gun into the air so that witnesses would see them and recover them.
The most important evidence that Oswald didn’t shoot Tippit is that 6 witnesses, ignored by the Warren Commission, saw 2 men shoot Tippit. One of them resembled Oswald (this must have been Seymour).

One of the instigators was CIA contract agent David Ferrie. Meetings in Ferrie's apartment in New Orleans were attended by Clay Shaw, William Seymour and several Cubans that developed the plans to assassinate JFK. Others who supported the plot were: Guy Banister, Major L. M. Bloomfield, Loran Hall, Lawrence Howard, Sergio Arcacha Smith and Carlos Prio Socarras.
There were also meetings in CIA agent (DDP) Guy Gabaldin’s Mexico City apartment attended by Shaw, Ferrie, Seymour, and Oswald.
Others were brought into the conspiracy at this point, including John Howard Bowen (Osborne), Ronald Augustinovich, Mary Hope, Emilio Santana, Harry Dean, Richard Case Nagell, "Frenchy", Fred Lee Crisman, Jim Hicks and Jim Braden (a.k.a. Eugene Hale Brading).
Clay Shaw, Albert Osborne, Harry Dean, Richard Case Nagell, Ronald Augustinovich, William Seymour, Emilio Santana and Fred Lee Crisman were all CIA (DDP) contract or direct agents.

Carlos Prio Socarras financed the assassination with more than $50 million out of Cuba. Socarras had been premier of Cuba, who lived in the Miami area and was murdered in 1977.
They also received money from Banister, and from 3 Texas millionaires: Sid Richardson, Clint Murchison, and Jean de Menil (of Schlumberger Co.).

Sprague doesn’t even claim that his story is “factual” but that this “scenario comes much closer to explaining what happened to John Kennedy than either the Warren Commission Report or the Rockefeller Commission report”.

Richard Sprague – The taking of America (Chapter 5): https://ratical.org/ratville/JFK/ToA/ToAchp5.html
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Under pressure of the Kennedy administration, on 1 October 1962 the Netherlands agreed to hand New Guinea (now part of Papua) over to Indonesia.

Corporations active in Netherland’s New Guinea in 1961, include:
The Netherlandsche Nieuw-Guinee Petroleum Maatschappij N.V. (NNGPM), a joint venture of Royal Dutch Shell (40%), the Standard Vacuum Company (40%) and the Far Pacific Investment Company (20%, a Chevron subsidiary);
The Zuid-Pacific Koper Maatschappij, a joint venture of the Freeport Sulphur Company and the Oost Borneo Maatschappij N.V.;
A joint venture of United States Steel, W. Mueller and Co., the Netherlandsche Handel-Maatschappij and the Oost-Borneo Maatschappij N.V.: http://wpik.org/Src/un_report_1961.html
(archived here: http://archive.is/bZVlZ)
See the following memo dated 9 October 68…


James Plaine of Houston, Texas, reported to Jim Garrison's assistant Andrew Sciambra that a Mr. "White" of Freeport Sulphur had contacted him regarding a possible assassination plan for Fidel Castro.
Plaine also said that he remembered either Shaw or David Ferrie talking about nickel mines located in Cuba.
A memo indicates that DICK WHITE and Clay Shaw were flown to Cuba in a Freeport Sulphur plane piloted by David Ferrie. The purpose of this trip was to set up import of Cuba's nickel ore to a Canadian front corporation which would in turn ship to the Braithwaite nickel plant. The plant was built by the US Government at a cost of about one million dollars.
There is also a report that Guy Banister hired Ferrie and Jack Martin to check out the nickel plant.

The name “White” is wrong and should have read “Wight”, Vice President of Freeport Sulphur.
Jules Ricco Kimble also told Garrison's office that "White" had flown with Shaw in a plane piloted by David Ferrie to Cuba regarding a nickel deal.
A former New Orleans newscaster confirmed to Garrison's team that Ferrie had flown Shaw and 2 partners to Canada to arrange the import of Cuban ore through Canada, as Canada was continuing its trade with Cuba.

Charles A. Wight was Chairman of the Executive Committee and a Director of Freeport Sulphur, from 1954-1955. He had previously been a Vice President for Bankers Trust Company.
There are numerous Rockefeller ties to Freeport. Adolph Berle, J. C. King, and John Hay Whitney, were all very close to Nelson Rockefeller himself.
For decades, Freeport was headed by John Hay Whitney. His Whitney Trust was financed in part with money from CIA conduit the Granary Fund. Another company of Whitney, Kern House Enterprises from Delaware, housed the CIA front company Forum World Features that dispersed CIA propaganda around the world.

The House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA) in the late 1970s pursued this lead. It seemed that both Clay Shaw and David Atlee Phillips were connected to Freeport Sulphur.
In late 1943, Freeport opened its Nickel Company subsidiary in Cuba that was named Moa Bay Mining Company.
When Phillips was asked about Freeport, he stated that he "probably" did have contacts with persons associated with Moa Bay Mining Company. He also "must have" had contact with Freeport Sulphur people.

One of the pilots of Moa Bay was Pedro Diaz Lanz, who befriended both Frank Sturgis and E. Howard Hunt, both of whom were closely associated to David Phillips.
Another employee of the Moa Bay Mining Company, Jorge Alfredo Tarafa, was a delegate of the Cuban Revolutionary Front (FRD) in New Orleans, headed by Sergio Arcacha Smith. The FRD was set-up by E. Howard Hunt to sponsor “anti-Castro” activities (in support of Castro of course).
One of the planners of the Bay of Pigs invasion, one of the main projects to support Castro, was Admiral Arleigh Burke, who later became a director of Freeport Sulphur.

Freeport Sulphur had serious clashes with the Kennedy administration over matters of great monetary significance. This could have been another motive…
Freeport's Chairman, Langbourne Williams, defended a contract with the US government. Press Secretary Pierre Salinger stated that the Kennedy administration planned to make stockpiling an issue in the 1964 campaign which would end the lucrative contract: http://www.realhistoryarchives.com/c...eport-cuba.htm
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In this post information on some of the motives for assassinating President John F. Kennedy…


During the 1960 presidential election Kennedy gave his support for the oil depletion allowance, but that changed in 2 years.
On 16 October 1962, Kennedy passed an act through Congress that removed the distinction between repatriated profits and profits reinvested abroad. This law especially affected the oil companies, oilmen saw their earnings on foreign investment drop from an estimated 30% to 15%.
On 17 January 1963, President Kennedy presented his proposals for tax reform. At this time Kennedy stated that he wanted to remove special privileges and loopholes. He even said he wanted to put an end to the oil depletion allowance that since 1926 gave the oil barons the right to take 27.5% of their earnings tax-free. It is estimated that if the oil depletion allowance had been removed this would have resulted in a loss of around $300 million a year to Texas oilmen.
After JFK had been assassinated, President Lyndon B. Johnson dropped the plans to remove the oil depletion allowance. It took until the arrival of President Jimmy Carter that the oil depletion allowance was removed.

The first investor to take advantage of the discovery of oil in October 1930 in East Texas was Haroldson L. Hunt.
Since 1948, the Suite 8F Group of oilmen including H.L. Hunt were major financial supporters of Lyndon B. Johnson. Large sums of money came from Brown & Root, the “big gas pipeline company”: https://spartacus-educational.com/JFKoildepletion.htm


In April 1962, President Kennedy had already made an enemy of the steel producing industry, when he forced a price rollback by sending FBI agents into corporate offices.
As part of the new plans to make an end to the oil depletion allowance, Robert Kennedy instructed the FBI to ask oil companies for specific production and sales data.

One of FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover's good friends, the Texas oilman Clint Murchison Sr., was among the most aggressive players in the depletion allowance dispute.
Another strong defender of the allowance was Democratic senator Robert Kerr, who owned the Kerr-McGee oil company. When Prescott's son, George H.W. Bush, started up his Zapata Offshore [oil] operation, Kerr offered some of his own executives to help.

Oil executive Jack Crichton, close to Bush, head of a secretive Dallas-based, oil-connected military intelligence unit had Clint Murchison Sr. on his board of directors.
In one of those strange coincidences another director was D. Harold Byrd, owner of the Texas School Book Depository building: https://www.businessinsider.com/what...true&r=US&IR=T
(archived here: http://archive.is/gT2b5)


On 11 October 1963, Kennedy signed National Security Action Memorandum 263 to withdraw 1,000 of roughly 16,000 Americans stationed in Vietnam by the end of 1963, with the complete withdrawal by the end of 1965.
They started to withdraw on 14 November 1963, 8 days later JFK was dead: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc....&relPageId=421


After Johnson was made president, the Gulf of Tonkin incident was staged, to make a massive war effort against Vietnam (more than 500,000 soldiers): https://forum.davidicke.com/showpost...96&postcount=8


Kennedy was even trying to make an end to the “Cold war” and, in a September 1963 United Nations speech, even went as far (too far?) to talk about plans to stage the moon landings with the Soviets:
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In a field where the United States and the Soviet Union have a special capacity—in the field of space—there is room for new cooperation, for further joint efforts in the regulation and exploration of space.
I include among these possibilities a joint expedition to the moon.
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