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Old 01-02-2017, 05:05 PM   #1
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Exclamation Petition for Trump to ban torture?

Is there going to be one?
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Old 01-02-2017, 05:15 PM   #2
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Why should there be?

Trump is



as the gif says.

He's just about to round up all the Muslims and gas them so why should we care about torture. And, in any case, if Trump responded to a petition to ban torture and actually banned torture that would be fascism. Only dictators selectively respond to petitions for their own selfish purposes and hold plebiscites to get the answers they want.

Can't you tell, Trump is so egotistical the ban on torture would probably work in his favour and make people believe he cares about them and his reign of terror will continue even longer.

I could go on and on but I'll leave it there.
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Old 01-02-2017, 07:01 PM   #3
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Apparently he changed his position on waterboarding after general mattis told him it doesn't work and isn't of much use
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Apparently he changed his position on waterboarding after general mattis told him it doesn't work and isn't of much use
That's wonderful. Just goes to show how reasonable a man D. Trump can be. Certainly not fixed in his ways and dictatorial. He seems to want to do just the right thing. It's certainly not how the mainstream media are portraying him at all. I just don't see how anyone can compare him to Hitler. He even has a lot of very gay supporters, apparently... i.e, homosexuals who affectiaonately call him "Daddy". I can't recall a US President ever being referred to like that before.



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Old 01-02-2017, 10:21 PM   #5
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Apparently he changed his position on waterboarding after general mattis told him it doesn't work and isn't of much use
Apparently?
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Old 03-02-2017, 11:01 AM   #6
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Apparently he changed his position on waterboarding after general mattis told him it doesn't work and isn't of much use
I thought he hasn't decided yet.
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Old 03-02-2017, 11:38 AM   #7
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Watch Christopher Hitchens get waterboarded - Vanity Fair

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Old 03-02-2017, 12:39 PM   #8
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Is there going to be one?
Not many seamed to care when Obama was using extraordinary rendition to torture detainees. It would be a tad hypocritical do so now....
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Old 03-02-2017, 01:00 PM   #9
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Not many seamed to care when Obama was using extraordinary rendition to torture detainees. It would be a tad hypocritical do so now....
Doesn't matter.
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Doesn't matter.
I agree with you 100%

Its a complex issue, I suspect its never going to adequately resolved. What constitutes torture ? is it ever permissible ? does it work ? do the overall benefits justify its use ?

This is the kind of stuff we debated and argued as students for years, and its amazing how someones principles can polarize when contexts change.

Sadly, we'll never get a worldwide consensus, but one thing is for sure, even if we could, politicians are always going to break those rules, because its in their nature to do so.
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Old 03-02-2017, 01:28 PM   #11
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Even if Trump (or any future president) would ban torture would it be 100% sure the black budget people/CIA wouldn't still continue it?
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