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Old 20-02-2016, 11:26 AM   #1
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Default Richplanet's 3rd Maddie McCann film now on YouTube

It's just been uploaded to YouTube - in four parts (it's a 4-hour film), all parts are now viewable via this link:

http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t12...ded-to-youtube

The title of the film is 'When Madeleine Died' - and continues Richard Hall's assertion that there has been a huge establishment-led cover-up about what really happened to Madeleine McCann.

Another controversial but fact-filled documentary from Richard Hall
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Old 20-02-2016, 12:44 PM   #2
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Rich's Film

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZV9Ten-HkY Part 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFk1l_8lxq4 Part 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUPm35D-X3o Part 3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrMUcwy4dO4 Part 4.
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Old 14-04-2016, 11:59 AM   #3
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Richard is supporting the petition on the Prime Minister's website asking the Home Office to issue a report on its controversial £15 million 5-year investigation into the reported disappearance of Madeleine McCann (which seems to have discovered...nothing).

There is just over a week now in which to add your name to the 2,794 who have already signed the petition:

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/108562

The petition results and a covering letter will be delivered to the Prime Minister at 10 Downing Street shortly after the petition closes on 22 April.

Thanks in advance to anyone else who is able to sign in this final week
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Old 14-04-2016, 12:25 PM   #5
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Just watched all four.. I really wish they would stick to facts rather than what they think..

Kids do share toothbrushes.
My daughter can carry her 4yo for a long long time without asking for help from her husband and her daughter is much bigger than M
Kids faces do not change very much, a person seeing the real child will see facial expressions that stay with them for a lifetime you wont see that on a few photos.

I did like it but think it could have been much shorter.. I really cannot buy that all those people are in on it and that the parents hid the fact she was died for days.
Ten people could all see the same thing and all would say different things.

Im still just as puzzled about it all as i was before ..

I expect one day will will know.. I just hope whatever happened she did not suffer.
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Old 14-04-2016, 07:40 PM   #9
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I agree about sticking to the facts rather than just assuming that just because something odd "appeared" to be going on that it must automatically mean people where "in on it" because stories apparently don't seem to match up. Richard (and it's not just Richard but other researchers in this field also) seem to jump to conclusions. Things like different drop off and pickup times at the creche, which allegedly point to inconsistencies in accounts, may have a genunine explanation.

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Old 14-04-2016, 09:11 PM   #10
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The only facts we need are :

the parents are completely culpable.

Who in their right mind goes off and leaves kids this age on their own (regardless of how many times you 'pop' back)? the parents are lying through their teeth.

Why hire lawyers, and private detectives and then say nothing. show no remorse. write a book. threaten all and sundry with legal action just for questioning motives, statements and their lifestyle after the disappearance?

the mccanns are scum!
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The question also is.... Why Did Gerry call Gordon Brown, what were their connection - same university here in Scotland, same secret society?? - why did they need the help of the government spin-doctor and on and so on.

I agree overall, they left kids alone and should be charged on that! Regardless!
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Worth googling the following three words:

coleman experience mccann
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Worth googling the following three words:

coleman experience mccann
So I did that and got this


https://thecolemanexperience.wordpre...eleine-mccann/

If it was all planned why are there so many holes in the story.. Why did they even need to do this snatching business thing when all these top people were in on it, all their friends were in on it, Half the resort were in on it.. why not do it then go home and say she died while on holiday.. No one else would even know.

Even those fast asleep see through this farce right from the off.
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Old 15-04-2016, 11:25 AM   #14
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I watched the entire 4 hours, and found it fascinating. The problem is, evidentially, there are many missing pieces. As kizzie says, things don't add up. For example, it all seems a bit like something is covered up but also as if something unplanned happened. I don't think normal parents would react the way the McCanns do, who appear to crave their appearances in the media. And the media too, seem to relish in this story, as if it is just one big smokescreen. Definitely something deeper going on, but I don't know what other evidence or facts are out there to support the more shocking claims or allegations.
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Old 15-04-2016, 11:41 AM   #15
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Sorry, four-and-a-half hour videos padded out with speculation won't get my attention - and possibly the attention of others who should also be watching.

I thought we bang on about speculation in the MSM here - so what are these long videos adding?

Worthy though the entire contents perhaps are, but someone needs to get editing and create something more digestible and focus on the 'nitty-gritty'...

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Old 15-04-2016, 12:34 PM   #16
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I watched the entire 4 hours, and found it fascinating. The problem is, evidentially, there are many missing pieces. As kizzie says, things don't add up. For example, it all seems a bit like something is covered up but also as if something unplanned happened. I don't think normal parents would react the way the McCanns do, who appear to crave their appearances in the media. And the media too, seem to relish in this story, as if it is just one big smokescreen. Definitely something deeper going on, but I don't know what other evidence or facts are out there to support the more shocking claims or allegations.
yes its like we have to wade through two sides to find the middle ground.

the public are used to people wailing their lose on the TV.. the fact they never cried and never said sorry to the public .. Why the public think they are entitled to a apology for leaving the child alone I will never know.. If they are genuine they would probably have said sorry to their child a million times since it happened.. I'm not talking here but the many forums at the time covering it you would think the child was one they were baby sitting and they were the parents the way they were demanding a apology

I have no idea what they feel.. I know I would not be one for public shows if grief but then I would not be able to speak to anyone if my child were missing...

We have all seen how a lot of those public pleas for info where parents and loved ones cry and look heartbroken turn out.

Most photos I have seen of Kate she looks haunted, grief or guilt I dont know. I was not there. Loads do not add up at all.
But a lot of what people say does not add, up are things they could not possible know and needs to be just cut out of these videos..

Just plain facts! No, "if they were me" or "I have never known anyone do this or that" and presenting them as facts..

We are not them and just because they do not act like you or I it does not mean they are guilty of anything. just because someone who looks after children every day does not remember every childs name or every detail of the day clearly, does not mean they are lying.

Like thermion says I just want the nitty gritty

Are there any videos out there that just present facts clearly like that.. does anyone know?
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Old 15-04-2016, 03:46 PM   #17
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There are loads of resources online about the McCanns and all the weird things that happened before, during and after her abduction.

One of the girls I went to school with whose dad was quite high up in the media said that the entire UK media had agreed not too disclose the fact that the McCanns were swingers as they didn't want to affect people's opinion on the situation.
I don't know if I was told this or somehow came to this conclusion myself but I got the impression Jon Snow wasn't particularly pleased about the witholding of this information.

It's funny because way back in 2003 most people believed that paedophiles were to blame. Especially because Ian Huntley had killed those two girls less than a year earlier - it was still at the forefront of everyone's minds. But now in 2016 there are whole Facebook groups operating under the believe that Kate and Gerry were 'in on it' in various forms and guises. Even Daily Mail comments provide their two cents and we know Daily Mail readers aren't exactly bright sparks.

Anyway I've done a fair bit of research about it. In the footage I studied I always found Gerry strangely cold, rather aloof and I definitely think he was responsible for her death whether she slipped and fell or she was abused.
He probably knows many well to do people in a variety of industries who helped him get off. I mean they didn't even get charged for negligence. Money talks and they've made a lot of it off the backs of their dead daughter. Just wait til it starts to dry up again and they'll be back on the news with new evidence.
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There are loads of resources online about the McCanns and all the weird things that happened before, during and after her abduction.

One of the girls I went to school with whose dad was quite high up in the media said that the entire UK media had agreed not too disclose the fact that the McCanns were swingers as they didn't want to affect people's opinion on the situation.
I don't know if I was told this or somehow came to this conclusion myself but I got the impression Jon Snow wasn't particularly pleased about the witholding of this information.

It's funny because way back in 2003 most people believed that paedophiles were to blame. Especially because Ian Huntley had killed those two girls less than a year earlier - it was still at the forefront of everyone's minds. But now in 2016 there are whole Facebook groups operating under the believe that Kate and Gerry were 'in on it' in various forms and guises. Even Daily Mail comments provide their two cents and we know Daily Mail readers aren't exactly bright sparks.

Anyway I've done a fair bit of research about it. In the footage I studied I always found Gerry strangely cold, rather aloof and I definitely think he was responsible for her death whether she slipped and fell or she was abused.
He probably knows many well to do people in a variety of industries who helped him get off. I mean they didn't even get charged for negligence. Money talks and they've made a lot of it off the backs of their dead daughter. Just wait til it starts to dry up again and they'll be back on the news with new evidence.

Ian Huntley killed those girls in 2002.. Madeline went missing 2007

I was on a big forum at the time Madeline went missing I had just got back from three mths in America so it sticks in my head.
Most people wanted to lynch them and hung them out to dry.
Every thread was closed because either people kept insisting the parents did it, or it was their fault or they wanted to do violence to the parents.. Everyone was blamed except whomever had taken her
it really was a bizarre time.. I think many woke up to how the media can be judge and jury to some and a loving big brother to others.
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Anyone remember the case of April Jones? Apparently, the killer was caught (supposedly) but the body never found. There was a media frenzy over that case too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_April_Jones
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Anyone remember the case of April Jones? Apparently, the killer was caught (supposedly) but the body never found. There was a media frenzy over that case too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_April_Jones
Another one who's parents were judged and found very wanting via the internet. As if losing a child isnt enough.

So sad .. I remember a few over the years.. a boy at a fair rings a bell?
The girl on the bike Jeanette i think her name was, I bet there were many of them

I had two friends murdered when I was a kid. Babes in the wood murder over Epping forest.. the whole thing was bungled from start to finish and the man was only caught not so long ago then died not that long after.. It was the anniversary the other day.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-10206614.html
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