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Old 23-11-2009, 07:50 PM   #1
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Old 29-11-2009, 07:36 AM   #2
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Make this a "sticky" ?
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Old 29-11-2009, 07:41 AM   #3
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Climate change: this is the worst scientific scandal of our generation



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This is just more of the same "scapegoat the scientists" propaganda.

Climategate is not a scientific scandal, it is a political one, and more than that, it is a crime against humanity!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/c...eneration.html
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Old 29-11-2009, 07:46 AM   #4
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Who's to blame for Climategate?

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/cop...imategate.html
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Old 29-11-2009, 07:51 AM   #5
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CLIMATEGATE - GOOGLE PULLS "CLIMATEGATE" OUT OF THEIR AUTOSUGGESTION LIST!


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http://www.fok.nl/danny/climategategone.swf
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Old 29-11-2009, 07:52 AM   #6
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Hmm, your to blame...

{Edit** Swines!! ...their "damage control machine" has now been cranked-up to full-power, it seems...
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Old 29-11-2009, 07:58 AM   #7
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Climate crunch: David Bellamy on global warming fraud

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Old 29-11-2009, 08:06 AM   #8
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hi tusme.........

http://www.rense.com/general88/un.htm

this is in IMHO as good as already law........

It's SO telling ......just like the hollow$.....it has to be a lie....they have us potentially criminalised before it;s even signed.
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Old 29-11-2009, 01:01 PM   #9
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Not only is this man-made climate change a lie, it's probably also a plan to reduce CO2 so much that there won't be not enough for vegetation to photosynthesise, therefore reducing the levels of oxygen in the air, causing vegetation to be wiped out and mass asphyxiation of humans and animals.
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Old 29-11-2009, 10:52 PM   #10
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If there is no global warming then how come the polar caps are melting? Also, why would 'the illuminati, big brother, etc etc create a global warming conspiracy when I would've thought it would be in their interests to deny man made global warming completely?

Also, if one denies that man made greenhouse gases cause global warming, this creates the dangerous idea that large scale pollution is acceptable and OK which it's not. Apart from the issue of whether or not man is responsible for climate change, would these same people deny that industrialized society on a such a massive scale had any significant environmental impact whatsoever?

No, this is a bullshit argument. Whether or not global warming is caused my man is ultimately a smokescreen. When you look at all the terrible damage that industrialized society has caused the environment, there's just no way these people can go around saying all this shit about how man is not responsible for global warming. Whether or not man is responsible for global warming is not the issue. Man is definitely responsible for all sorts of catastrophic damage to the natural world. The marine and terrestial environments take a terrible battering every minute and then these people have the gaul to sit there and deny that man is responsible for global warming. They're not global warming skeptics. What they are is grossly irresponsible!!!

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Old 10-12-2009, 12:02 PM   #11
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Global warming = Carbon tax + debt.

Just picked this up from Irelands construction website. Its quite clear after yesterdays budget in Ireland, and the introduction of the carbon tax, how insidious the whole process is.

They give you a new carbon tax, and then offer you a debt that will help to pay for it.

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PAYS & carbon tax: a carrot and stick approach
The introduction of a carbon tax alone could be highly unpopular with many people – particularly those people for whom green issues and climate change are not high priorities. To be effective, the ‘stick’ that a carbon tax represents should be complimented by a ‘carrot’. To a person living in an uninsulated home using home heating oil, a carbon tax may seem unfair in light of their already considerable energy costs. If they can avail of an energy upgrade through their electricity or gas bill, they’ll have a means of reducing their carbon tax bill – especially given that the carbon tax is likely to be channelled through existing systems like energy bills.

The carbon tax and PAYS are therefore mutually beneficial: a carbon tax would encourage people to look at ways of cutting their energy consumption, and the opportunity to reduce carbon tax costs through PAYS would remove reasonable objections to such a tax. It’s difficult to object to a carbon tax if you have a means to reduce your carbon tax bill, whilst making your home more comfortable, healthy, more valuable and cheaper to heat. For the same reason, the introduction of PAYS would give the state more leverage to increase carbon tax rates over time, at least insofar as it relates to energy usage in buildings. Increasing the carbon tax rate would therefore either directly increase the monies coming into the exchequer through carbon tax, or increase the number and extent of upgrades under PAYS, thereby benefiting the exchequer in terms of VAT payments and other taxes associated with the construction work. More research may be needed to predict the benefits to the Irish economy of reducing monies leaving the economy to buy imported energy. How much of that saved money would be spent in Ireland? How much tax would this bring into the public coffers
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Old 10-12-2009, 12:16 PM   #12
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Oh, good grief. *sigh*

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If there is no global warming then how come the polar caps are melting?
The ice caps expand and shrink all the time. Do some research. Ice has actually been increasing in the Antarctic in recent years. Some melting of the ice caps is to be expected though - we are still in an interglacial period after all (the warming period between ice ages).

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Also, why would 'the illuminati, big brother, etc etc create a global warming conspiracy when I would've thought it would be in their interests to deny man made global warming completely?
It's in their interests to have a global government that is democratically unaccountable. That is what the Copenhagen summit is trying to create.

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Also, if one denies that man made greenhouse gases cause global warming, this creates the dangerous idea that large scale pollution is acceptable and OK which it's not.
CO2 is not a pollutant, it is an essential part of the life cycle! Learn some basic biology.

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No, this is a bullshit argument.
You said it.

Do some research please. You can get a very good digest of the debate here: http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/im...%20Scandal.pdf

Also check out http://wattsupwiththat.com and http://www.climateaudit.org
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Old 10-12-2009, 01:13 PM   #13
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Old 10-12-2009, 05:16 PM   #14
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If there is no global warming then how come the polar caps are melting? Also, why would 'the illuminati, big brother, etc etc create a global warming conspiracy when I would've thought it would be in their interests to deny man made global warming completely?

Also, if one denies that man made greenhouse gases cause global warming, this creates the dangerous idea that large scale pollution is acceptable and OK which it's not. Apart from the issue of whether or not man is responsible for climate change, would these same people deny that industrialized society on a such a massive scale had any significant environmental impact whatsoever?

No, this is a bullshit argument. Whether or not global warming is caused my man is ultimately a smokescreen. When you look at all the terrible damage that industrialized society has caused the environment, there's just no way these people can go around saying all this shit about how man is not responsible for global warming. Whether or not man is responsible for global warming is not the issue. Man is definitely responsible for all sorts of catastrophic damage to the natural world. The marine and terrestial environments take a terrible battering every minute and then these people have the gaul to sit there and deny that man is responsible for global warming. They're not global warming skeptics. What they are is grossly irresponsible!!!
Simon - although we share the same name we differ completely - arrrgh people like you make me sick to the bottom of my very stomach!!

So man is raping the planet? whats new?? its been going on since mankind came here

Can you hear yourself? man made global warming is the damn issue you fool!!! - i dont think you would find a single person who didnt agree that we should recycle and be more enviro friendly - but LYING to us - MAKING out that the earth is on its last legs, that were all doomed etc is KILLING INNOCENT POOR PEOPLE!!!!

WHY? COS CURRENTLY 1/3 OF US AGRICULTURE HAS BEEN TURNED OVER TO MAKE BIO-FUELS - CAUSING A DOUBLING YES A DOUBLING IN THE PRICE OF FOOD IN THE WORLD - yes were ok here in the western world - but in africa, india etc already millions have died.

co2 and man made global warming is a fraud - and you idiot are buying into it - what it actually is - is a EUGENICS DEPOPULATION PROGRAMME

So simonlove - what have YOU done?? bet you drive? bet you shop in supermarkets bet you dont recycle 100% and bet you dont leave ur heating off in winter do you?? god you think you are a good person, who should JUDGE other people???

let him who is without sin, cast the first stone

simonlove - i think you shud keep ur big idiot gob shut!
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Old 10-12-2009, 05:21 PM   #15
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Anyone around a certain age in the UK must remember the BBC flagship science programme "Tomorrows World".

This programme showcased new theories, materials, ideas and inventions. A lot of which we had glimpses of back then but still don't know about now 20 or 30 years on. A regular theme was that the Earth was heading back towards another ice age. This was most certainly the current thinking of the day.

The programme was taken off air for reasons I can only guess as being "they" were giving out too much information!

A few years later and the establishment made a 180° about turn and started leading the populace down the man made global warming route coincidently (or not) at the same time we were being told AIDS was going to wipe out half the worlds population before you could say copulation.

There is no doubt that mankind does have some effect on the warmth generated from the planet but again 180° from the facts we are presented with.

When the term global warming first became popular I used to think it was nothing more than a marketing tool. Aerosol manufacturers switched to non-cfc propellants that of course bumped the prices up, sun cream manufacturers were scaring people to not go outside without factor 30 on due to the likelihood of getting skin cancer from the very sun we have lived under for who knows how long? McDonalds were killing the planet, not because they were flattening the rain forests at an alarming rate, Oh and serving shit that is loosely termed as food, nope, it was because of the packaging

This whole global warming swindle is a smokescreen diverting our attention away from what is really going on and of course a great revenue maker.

Now if the planet is cooling it means that almost the entire population of the planet has been looking in, investing in and giving energy to, the completely wrong direction to where we should be looking.

For individuals to not be consciously aware of each and every action and the effect it will have on others and our earth, is irresponsible, granted.
But we have been sold into this blind alley and are now being charged for the privilige by the people who are trying to get us all shouldering the blame and forever trying to envelop us in clouds of guilt, while "they" are getting rich by raping every organism on the planet.

All the while attempting to brainwash the masses into thinking that "climate change" isn't really a fancy term for the weather!
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Global warming hitting hard in the American Mid-West as "Wisconsin declared a state of emergency, shut down government offices and also called in the National Guard after the storm dumped up to 17 inches of snow across the state."

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Wor...p_To_17_People
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If global warming was the result of burning fossil fuels, then the governments would release all the data on free energy, and encourage free energy concepts.

But they wont do that, because free energy implementation cuts off their income stream.

And they wont be able to enforce their carbon life form tax.

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There,s some free energy right there.

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