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Old 20-08-2016, 09:17 PM   #421
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$500 Million required to run for president of USA corporation.

Democracy in action.

Trump is subverting their corporate monopoly.

He's really pissing off the right people/groups.
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Old 20-08-2016, 11:52 PM   #422
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The key for all of us is to see through bullshit and to remember that public pressure and good Russian Intel stopped them at least officially attacking Syria.

I would not vote for either, but I can understand the hyperbole over Trump but he is a War mongerer and no doubt has shares in the MIC. I am pretty sure he will go into Syria saying he is going to take out ISIS, certainly they are gagging to get over there to waste more money.
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Q: You think the Middle East would be better today if Gaddafi, Saddam and Assad were stronger? That the Middle East would be safer?

TRUMP: It's not even a contest. Iraq is a disaster. And ISIS came out of Iraq.

Q: Well, let me button this up. If Saddam and Gaddafi were still in power, you think things would be more stable?

TRUMP: Of course it would be. You wouldn't have had your Benghazi situation, which is one thing, which was just a terrible situation.
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Q: You came across to me as if you welcomed Putin's involvement in Syria. You said you saw very little downside. Why?

TRUMP: I want our military to be beyond anything, no contest, and technologically, most importantly. But we are going to get bogged down in Syria. If you look at what happened with the Soviet Union in Afghanistan, that's when they went bankrupt.

Q: So, you think Putin's going to get suckered into--

TRUMP: They're going to get bogged down. Everybody that's touched the Middle East, they've gotten bogged down. Now, Putin wants to go in and I like that Putin is bombing the hell out of ISIS. Putin has to get rid of ISIS because Putin doesn't want ISIS coming into Russia.

Q: Why do you trust him and nobody else does?

TRUMP: I don't trust him. But the truth is, it's not a question of trust. I don't want to see the United States get bogged down. We've spent now $2 trillion in Iraq, probably a trillion in Afghanistan. We're destroying our country.

Source: Meet the Press 2015 interview moderated by Chuck Todd , Oct 4, 2015

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TRUMP: I was in favor of Libya? I never discussed that subject. We would be so much better off if Gadhafi were in charge right now. If these politicians went to the beach and didn't do a thing, and we had Saddam Hussein and if we had Gadhafi in charge, instead of having terrorism all over the place, at least they killed terrorists, all right? And I'm not saying they were good--because they were bad, they were really bad--but we don't know what we're getting. You look at Libya right now, ISIS, as we speak, is taking over their oil. As we speak, it's a total mess. We would have been better off if the politicians took a day off instead of going into war.
Source: 2016 CNN-Telemundo Republican debate on eve of Texas primary , Feb 25, 2016
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Old 21-08-2016, 08:19 AM   #423
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Yeah. It's true. We are in a sad state of affairs. At least with Trump there's maybe a 10% chance of significant, positive change. With Hillary it's virtually zero.
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Old 21-08-2016, 08:32 AM   #424
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Yeah. It's true. We are in a sad state of affairs. At least with Trump there's maybe a 10% chance of significant, positive change. With Hillary it's virtually zero.
Maybe his ego will be a positive he has said a lot, if he walks the talk then domestically it ought to improve, I just sense of late that he will move the goalposts. Also to,ban Muslims would he not have to change the constitution ? I think this is correct as he recently said he would let some in but only after heavy vetting, which is the way to go, if Merkel was not such a glove puppet then Europe would not have tolerated the thugs. A refugee, a genuine one, would not act like a total thug, they would be just relieved to be safe.

I think 10% is about right or perhaps Hillary is such a wreck means she starts on minus 50. Point is taking on Hillary is like shooting fish in a barrel.

And was he not even good mates with the Clintons ? There is a pic of them all together, think it was at Chelsea ' Who is my real daddy' Clintons wedding ?

Anyway you just have to not get involved in wars and change from a Police state to a normal style of Policing and refuse to have any more freedoms removed.

As does every country in the West our controllers are very sneaky though they are so low they could crawl under a snakes belly, after it has had it's Christmas dinner whilst wearing a Top Hat.

So pretty damn low.
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Old 22-08-2016, 06:45 AM   #425
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Donald Trump, The Anti-Establishment Candidate? Connections to Wall Street, Blackwater and the CFR

By Steven MacMillan
Global Research, August 21, 2016
Counterpunch 1 August 2016

Out of all the individuals in the political sphere today, no one stirs controversy and divides opinion more than Donald Trump. For months now, Trump’s flamboyant personality and demagogic rhetoric has dominated the media landscape, turning the presidential race into the biggest entertainment event of the year. Hailed as the saviour of America by some, and as a train wreck waiting to happen by others; Trump still remains somewhat of an enigma.

There is no doubt that his straight-talking style has resonated with many Americans who are tired of career politicians more concerned with political correctness than confronting real issues. Many Americans are also encouraged by some of Trump’s stances on certain issues – including his comments on improving relations with Russia, and his seeming opposition to the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) – yet his constant flip-flopping on issues makes it impossible to decipher what his actual policies will be if elected.

Trump’s chances are emboldened by the fact that his major competitor in the race is so hated by every thinking person in the world, that many Americans may support Trump purely as the lesser of two evils. With Hillary at the helm, the American people know exactly what they are going to get: more war, more corruption and more policies that will only benefit special interests.

Trump: The Anti-Establishment Candidate?

Trump supporters are often very vocal in their belief that the real estate magnate is an anti-establishment outsider. In many of his speeches and comments, Trump plays up to this (probably carefully constructed) persona. Judging by the nature of people advising the presidential candidate however, Trump’s anti-establishment populism looks anything but genuine.

In addition to the establishment heavyweights Trump has already met with – including the former US Secretary of State and member of the influential Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), Henry Kissinger, and the former Director of Policy Planning at the State Department and current head of the CFR, Richard Hass – Trump’s official advisory teams on both foreign and economic policy reveal some troublesome connections to the neocons, Wall Street, Soros and the CFR.

A Foreign Policy Ran by Blackwater and the Neocons

Trump’s official foreign policy team includes a minimum of two neocons, with Joseph E. Schmitz the clear winner of the award for the worst foreign policy adviser in Trump’s selection. Schmitz, a lawyer by trade, is the former Inspector General of the Department of Defense in addition to being a former executive at none other than Blackwater Worldwide. Blackwater, which rebranded itself as Academi in 2011 due to its atrocious reputation (similar to what Jabhat Al-Nusra just done), is the notorious military contractor that has been involved in various controversies.

It is probably most infamous for the horrific incident in 2007, when Blackwater guards killed 17 Iraqi civilians and injured a further 20 after opening fire at a traffic junction in Baghdad. Other Blackwater enterprises include making a fortune of pretending to fight the booming opium trade in Afghanistan (which so ‘curiously’ skyrocketed following the US-led invasion of the country in 2001), in addition to fighting alongside the Western-backed terrorists in Syria who are trying to overthrow the government of Bashar al-Assad.

Schmitz is also connected to the Center for Security Policy (CSP), a neocon think tank whose publications fuel the anti-Islamic hysteria that is so prevalent in the US today. As Professor Michel Chossudovsky of Global Research has documented, CSP is an organization that has received funding by corporate powers who are promoting Islamophobia in America. CSP is also reportedly financed by numerous giants of the military-industrial complex, including Raytheon and Lockheed Martin.

Economic Advisers Connected to Wall Street and the CFR

At the beginning of August, Trump officially announced his economic advisory council. Considering that Trump has criticised Hillary Clinton for her overt Wall Street connections, you would think that Trump would pick a council devoid of any Wall Street titans. Well think again; Trump’s economic team is largely comprised of bankers, hedge fund managers and Wall Street insiders, who do not in any way represent the interests of the average American voter.

Steven Mnuchin, Trump’s National Finance Chairman and a major economic adviser, could not be more in bed with Wall Street and the establishment. Mnuchin is a former partner at Goldman Sachs, spending a total of 17 years at the financial powerhouse, according to Bloomberg. In addition to working for Goldman for close to two decades, Mnuchin also worked at Soros Fund Management, a firm founded by the billionaire and regime change extraordinaire, George Soros.

Another prominent economic adviser to Trump is John Paulson, the billionaire and hedge fund manager who founded Paulson & Co in 1994. Paulson, who formerly worked at Bear Stearns, is famous forshorting the housing market in the run up to the financial crisis of 2007-08, earning approximately $4 billion from the trade. The billionaire is also a member of the CFR, in addition to previously backing Mitt Romney in his failed 2012 presidential bid.

In addition to Mnuchin and Paulson, Trump’s economic advisers include Stephen Feinberg, the CEO of the private investment firm, Cerberus Capital Management; Stephen Calk, the founder of the Federal Savings Bank who has previously worked for Chase Manhattan Mortgage Corp and Bank of America; and Wilbur Ross, the billionaire who spent 25 years running Rothschild Inc’s bankruptcy practice. Trump has also reshuffled his campaign team recently, appointing Stephen Bannon, a former investment banker at Goldman Sachs, as his new campaign CEO.

It is clear that Clinton is the pick of the establishment, which explains the largely negative coverage of Trump in the mainstream media. But considering the nature of the advisers surrounding Trump, the establishment has pulled its usual trick of ensuring that it controls both major candidates in the presidential race.

Steven MacMillan is a freelance writer and editor of The Analyst Report.
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Old 23-08-2016, 08:17 AM   #426
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Here another big supporter of Trump, Robert Mercer, a king of hedge funds. Few minutes ago on "Ilsole24ore", the most important economic Italian journal, I read about the consistent help that this guy is giving to Donal Trump.
This is the wikipedia page about Robert Mercer, where it's specificated the help for Donald Trump:
https://www.google.it/url?sa=t&rct=j...Vs9KJ-cR47IeCw
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Old 23-08-2016, 04:41 PM   #427
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It could just be that a lot of these evil powerful people are supporting Trump because they know that the world can't go on like this for much longer. What good is it to be the wealthiest or the most powerful man in the world if everything's gone to shit?
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Old 23-08-2016, 05:20 PM   #428
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It could just be that a lot of these evil powerful people are supporting Trump because they know that the world can't go on like this for much longer. What good is it to be the wealthiest or the most powerful man in the world if everything's gone to shit?
It could just be that Donald Trump is actually a part of the system he pretends to be against.

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Old 23-08-2016, 08:15 PM   #429
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Trump's pretty much admitted that he was a part of the system in the past. I suppose it's not far fetched at all to believe he still is today just as much. Of course he is a part of the system. He's running for president. At least he's admitting the problem. His suggestions to control immigration, and tax companies, for moving out of the country, are a step in the right direction. To say he's no different than Hillary just doesn't ring true to me. I think we will get a much better deal with him. Especially on the TPP. I think he is a hell of a lot less likely to start a nuclear war with Russia too. It's doubtful he will be able to do everything he's promised but he seems sincere. Wouldn't he have been a lot better off financially to stay out of the race and give bribes to the Clinton foundation to get what he wants?
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Old 25-08-2016, 10:01 AM   #430
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This article on the website of an important Italian journal reports an interview in English with the main military adviser of Donald Trump: collaboration with Russia but, Iran is an enemy to be defeated and sponsor of radicalism.
http://www.corriere.it/esteri/16_ago...e9857496.shtml

The same article specifies that this man has written a book together to Micheal Leeden (a top neocon).
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