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Old 01-05-2016, 03:41 PM   #21
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I don't think the power of the church made the world any better. People are turning away from it because they see it as backward. Not only that but the amount of abuse that has gone on and been covered up is staggering.

People can still live by good values without any religious convictions.
I was talking about the central message of Christ. I do think that for the majority of the time, the Church has been used to help control people in a certain way. But that was only possible by this central message of love, forgiveness, compassion, etc..

But today, these ideas are a hindrance. The NWO don't want compassionate folk, they never forgive, and they are the money changers..

The abuse and cover-ups are a hell of a long way from Christs message.

Try to see the difference between His message and actions, and those of the Church, or some of those in the Church..

If the Truth has been twisted to keep folk under the control of the state to their detriment, then by all means rail against those who have committed these crimes against humanity..

But you are right, you don't need religion to be a good person, but when you have a Man like the Christ talking about love, about forgiveness etc, then what's so bad about that?
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Old 01-05-2016, 11:55 PM   #22
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SNP is for Scots or people who live in Scotland? So if the latter Nigerians in Scotland are considered Scots? and English? West Indians and Pakistanis and Bangladeshis and the rest of the EU?

I cannot accept this. I live in Scotland and I like it here but I am not a Scot. Take my right to vote away and take all non-scots right to vote away. I say yes to that.

Scots should have the say in their own country - I would prefer policies encouraging Scots to have more kids rather than promoting immigrants coming in. (non-pc comment - but there it is)

Some nationalist party. NOT.

They are globalists leading the people of Scotland by an illusion of independence into the arms of the very people that Icke and many others have focussed on as having a very bad agenda for all of the humans on the planet.
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Old 04-05-2016, 09:46 AM   #23
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Something else dark coming to light about the SNP http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...dian-plan.html

I think a dictatorship in Scotland is being formed whilst Westminster is destroying to way of life in the country.
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Old 04-05-2016, 10:39 AM   #24
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Like gender modification is the most important issue concerning the Scotts right now..
Just another case of people who pretend to be something they are not (eg the Dönmeh).
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Old 04-05-2016, 11:25 AM   #25
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Something else dark coming to light about the SNP http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...dian-plan.html

I think a dictatorship in Scotland is being formed whilst Westminster is destroying to way of life in the country.
I'm sure it won't be long until they try to bring in that "state guardian" crap in England.
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Old 05-05-2016, 07:30 AM   #26
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They just want power, tapping into the anti-English sentiment of the populace gives them that.
nonsense, scots don't hate the english; there is a friendly rivalry though eg with sport

we have watched our industry be gutted by thatchers tories though and we have had to endure repeated tory governments that the scots didn't vote for; think about that: having governments you don't want constantly foisted upon you because you are shackled to another country

the scots haven't voted SNP out of hate. They have done it out of hope. The SNP have blocked GMO's, they are against the TTIP and nulcear weapons, Scotland has free higher education, Scotland now generates something like 50% of its power through renewables and we don't have flouride in our water

But despite these positive developments we have had to watch our land bought up by hedge fund managers who act as 'absentee landlords' using the land as an 'investment'. The SNP is working towards land reform which hopefully will see a reduction in that practise and allow scottish people back onto their land

I'm not saying the SNP are perfect for example the named guardian thing is very nanny state. Also i personally want out of the EU and out of NATO

My main dissapointment in the SNP is their failure to blow the whistle on geoengineering; in my opinion no government can claim to be acting on the behalf of their people whilst at the same time covertly allowing them to be sprayed

GEOENGINEERING is the litmus test of a governments integrity and no government out there is discussing it so no government has my trust
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Old 05-05-2016, 07:42 AM   #27
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They just want power, tapping into the anti-English sentiment of the populace gives them that.
Anti establishment rather than anti English imo. Although you will get your eejits who choose to be xenophobic, in every nationality.

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Old 05-05-2016, 09:11 AM   #28
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Anti establishment rather than anti English imo. Although you will get your eejits who choose to be xenophobic, in every nationality.
Does the EU no longer count as the Establishment?
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Old 05-05-2016, 10:23 AM   #29
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Does the EU no longer count as the Establishment?
It is that, there just doesn't seem to be any alternative even globally.

We're stuck in shit right up to our necks and people are politically directionless that's why these nutters are running the show.
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Old 05-05-2016, 10:43 AM   #30
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It is that, there just doesn't seem to be any alternative even globally.

We're stuck in shit right up to our necks and people are politically directionless that's why these nutters are running the show.

The phycho nutcase head jobs are running the show just now, but luckily everything changes. It's only a matter of time in my opinion.

The question on my mind is how exactly it's gonna change.

By fair or foul means!
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Old 05-05-2016, 10:50 AM   #31
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Not sure about this one, but I ain't Scottish so it hardly matters ! The principle is right though they should be independent as should the Welsh. Decentralisation is the bottom line. But I loathe voting so you are kinda damned either way, guess the principle is powerful spiritually though. I might ask my 98 year old Nan, she is a Scot lol....

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Old 05-05-2016, 10:58 AM   #32
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The phycho nutcase head jobs are running the show just now, but luckily everything changes. It's only a matter of time in my opinion.

The question on my mind is how exactly it's gonna change.

By fair or foul means!
Your positivity is much needed and appreciated, all the corruption uncovered on a daily basis has had me in knots.

I have that glimmer of hope that comes from reading about all the brave folks working to expose the truth about said corruption..

A lot are getting killed and I pray justice will be theirs soon.
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Old 05-05-2016, 11:01 AM   #33
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Not sure about this one, but I ain't Scottish so it hardly matters ! The principle is right though they should be independent as should the Welsh. Decentralisation is the bottom line. But I loathe voting so you are kinda damned either way, guess the principle is powerful spiritually though. I might ask my 98 year old Nan, she is a Scot lol....
She'll have more common sense than the majority of politicians worldwide combined.
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Old 05-05-2016, 11:16 AM   #34
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She'll have more common sense than the majority of politicians worldwide combined.
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You are most probably right and for 98 she is doing pretty good, think she avoided vaccinations and a load of the other poisons we have had put on us !
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Popped out today to vote for both the satanic nationalists and the fascist greens. I'm looking forward to listening to the results coming in tonight and welcoming our new Satanic separatist tree hugging overlords.
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Old 06-05-2016, 04:17 PM   #36
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As this seems to be the only thread related to the Scottish elections I will post a few thoughts here.
If you are one of those 'voting does nothing' people just hit the x at the top right of the screen thanks.

It seems like it was a Separatist v Unionist election. What the Tories gained in votes , Labour lost. I wonder how many life long Labour voters put an x in the Tory box. I find that pretty disgusting to be honest but that is Scotland for you. There's still a religious bigotry squirming around the independence issue.

RISE (Socialist coalition) did fuck all and though I had no time for Cat Boyd's self love in, I do find it kind of depressing that they totally tanked.

Tommy Sheridan is finished.

UKIP are a joke north of Gretna. That Scottish leader they have is a numpty.

I could have got 7/1 on the SNP not getting a majority.
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As this seems to be the only thread related to the Scottish elections I will post a few thoughts here.
If you are one of those 'voting does nothing' people just hit the x at the top right of the screen thanks.

It seems like it was a Separatist v Unionist election. What the Tories gained in votes , Labour lost. I wonder how many life long Labour voters put an x in the Tory box. I find that pretty disgusting to be honest but that is Scotland for you. There's still a religious bigotry squirming around the independence issue.

RISE (Socialist coalition) did fuck all and though I had no time for Cat Boyd's self love in, I do find it kind of depressing that they totally tanked.

Tommy Sheridan is finished.

UKIP are a joke north of Gretna. That Scottish leader they have is a numpty.

I could have got 7/1 on the SNP not getting a majority.
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I agree but I am still trying to figure out how UKIP got an MEP elected up there ???
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Old 07-05-2016, 05:37 PM   #38
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People in Scotland are becoming aware now because of UKIP David Coburn so it might be just me but i don't think UKIP will represent Scotland in the next 2019 MEP elections.

Not a popular person in Scotland but they have got him to thank in part for the growing awareness of MEP's.

Could be wrong though
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Old 08-05-2016, 09:40 AM   #39
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The SNP will hopefully get a bit of a wake up call from this result

The nanny state intrusion into everyones lives in not wanted and if the SNP do not start talking about chemtrails and who controls the money supply then they will lose their credibility the same as the other parties have

if they don't start doing these things then we will be charting their demise because a vote for independence is not the same as a vote for the SNP

sort yourselves out or risk being seen as another bunch of system serving puppets
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