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Old 09-02-2016, 05:15 PM   #81
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The false left/right paradigm explained:

Quote from the first clip: ''the globalist view is: that we can use communism to breakdown the social order''



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Old 09-02-2016, 05:16 PM   #82
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Your Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -7.0
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.0
cool! are you able to post up the graph?
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Old 09-02-2016, 05:28 PM   #83
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Some of these perspectives i'm posting are from right wing libertarians ie they believe in capitalism (a voluntary exchange between two parties using an agreed upon medium of exchange)

Their argument is that we don't have capitalism at the moment where the freemarkets would decide matters but rather a fascist type system where the banks for example are able to fail and then be bailed out by taxpayers money instead of being allowed to fail and be replaced by new organisations

I sympathise with their views whilst having strong leanings towards the libertarian left

This is because like them i believe in individual liberty and that the government should serve the people rather than controlling them in a top down system

The SOLUTION according to them is SELF OWNERSHIP which is that you belong to no one and that you respect that same right in everyone else

The following is a great documentary because it also looks at how political correctness is being used by the authoritarian left to change society as they try and move us towards a new state-socialist totalitarian state:

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Old 09-02-2016, 08:12 PM   #84
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cool! are you able to post up the graph?
This is from the pdf that you can make at the site:

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Old 09-02-2016, 08:26 PM   #85
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How the voting system can be rigged

The solution? ensure checks and balances eg exit polls so that we know the results regardless of how the ballots are then processed; the blockchain could also offer a transprent tamper free public pedger by which the public could all cast their votes on various issues

This is going to be important soon with the EU referendum

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Old 09-02-2016, 08:34 PM   #86
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This is from the pdf that you can make at the site:

libertarian left!

I think a lot of people would be suprised if they did this test. They'd probably find that they are libertarians

The problem is that the authoritarian corporate media has made everyone believe that libertarians are right wing free market capitalists but many are not; many are left wing libertarians

The corporate elite are pushing an authoritarian left agenda to enslave us all under an all powerful state which they will control; but they're happy to promote right wing authoritarianism as well becasue ultimately both achieve the same thing: rule by the elite

The authoritarian left is behind cultural marxism and it pretends to have good intentions by supporting certain good causes but it does it in a way that is divisive; because it is authoritarian it is funded by big money from the authoritarian right

Many of those who support the authoritarian left don't realise what it is that they are supporting because they don't know what the end goal of it is which is to enslave everyone under a totalitarian all pervading government that micro-manages our lives (those of us it doesn't do away with through eugenics)

If they knew the true ley of the land they would probably identify as libertarian left not authoritarian left

They'd probably support the same causes but might approach the challenges society faces in a different way by ensuring that whilst they seek to create a fairer and more inclusive society they also seek to ensure the preservation of individual liberty as well which means avoiding assisting the fake left as they try and reshape society into a slave society under a big brother surveillance state

Why the 'fake' left?

It's fake because it does not seek to empower the workers like leftwing libertarianism does. Instead it seeks to dissempower them by empowering the state instead which is run by an elite
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Old 09-02-2016, 08:52 PM   #87
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The 'muir principle'

The muir principle is that a person doesn't really assimilate a truth until they not only know it but also understand it to be real

For example a person might have heard about chemtrails online but might not believe they are actually happening; that person will then not be motivated to take any action on that issue

If a person discusses chemtrails with them they might say ''oh yeah i know about that; i've heard all that before'' (they may even roll their eyes!) But if a person is not only aware of chemtrails but is also aware that they are real then they have assimilated that truth

This means that they have understood the reality of chemtrails and have assimilated that into their reality. A person that actually understands that chemtrails are actually being sprayed into the air that they are breathing them in is then motivated to take some sort of action for example spreading awareness about them online or contacting their local politician or other people in prominant positions to help publicise the issue

So there are many people who now know about many aspects of the conspiracy because there is so much talk online but there are still many people who do not yet really understand that it is all real and is actually happening

Until a person makes the leap from the knowing stage to the understanding stage they will not be motivated to action and that is the 'muir principle'

So truthers have the challenge of not only making people aware of various things but of then helping people to the understanding that it is all actually real and not just some sort of fun game or big joke
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THE TRUTH AND A SIMPLE SOLUTION THAT WILL COLLAPSE THE UNLAWFUL POWER OF THE BANKERS FOREVER!

It would appear that a massive financial collapse has started–a collapse that will completely eclipse the crash of 2007-08.
But it can all be stopped immediately by mobilising the common sense and proven principle of National or Public Credit! In other words, by bringing back the debt-free 1914 Treasury-issued Bradbury Pound!

http://thebcgroup.co.uk/Bradbury_to_the_Rescue.pdf
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There is a lot of talk out there about 'left v's right' in the political sphere; this is a deliberate ploy to as Alex Jones puts it: ''create a partisan wedge to keep people in a left/right paradigm'' ie divide and rule society by turning everyone against each other
Well, I agree with that. I even admit that I'm often guilty of that myself. It's a knee jerk defense mechanism that sets in when I see the left under attack. Part of it can even be justified in my opinion since my political/ideological preferences are part of a minority in the truth movement - all be-it a significant minority. But when I see the left under attack in post after post, and sometimes even thread after thread my blood starts to boil. Because what do these people think? That their problems are going to be solved by the Bush', Cameron's and Trumpie's of the world? That they are going to stop the NWO if they are allowed to hold on to their guns? How naive can people be?

But hey - I better stop, but once again I'm falling into this left vs right trap. But seriously - yes, I have to agree with Alex that in an ideal truth movement we SHOULD try as hard as possible to avoid all that. Because the truth all too obviously is that neither politicians from the left OR the right could give less of a fuck about us than they do. There may be a few exceptions to that rule on both sides, but even if their intentions are good, they can't get anything done since they are working in a system that is dominated by lizard brain people.

But even though I agree with that statement of Alex, it's something that he himself is often guilty of imo. He's always going on about "the left this, the liberals that" while singing the praises of someone like Trump. He's a great guy for his guests to talk to as long as they are on the same page as him. But disagree with him on a certain topic and he will shout you down. The topic of guns being a classic example. I think that's wrong. The truth movement is already a minority the way it is. If we keep dividing ourselves up in tiny groups that can't stand each other we'll never get anywhere. We need to communicate with each other. Try to understand those we disagree with and look at it from their perspective. I agree with Sibel Edmonds when she said, "I don't care if you are left wing or right wing. Conservative, socialist or anarchist. If you believe that there is a conspiracy we have a basis on which we can work together."
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Well, I agree with that. I even admit that I'm often guilty of that myself. It's a knee jerk defense mechanism that sets in when I see the left under attack. Part of it can even be justified in my opinion since my political/ideological preferences are part of a minority in the truth movement - all be-it a significant minority. But when I see the left under attack in post after post, and sometimes even thread after thread my blood starts to boil. Because what do these people think? That their problems are going to be solved by the Bush', Cameron's and Trumpie's of the world? That they are going to stop the NWO if they are allowed to hold on to their guns? How naive can people be?

But hey - I better stop, but once again I'm falling into this left vs right trap. But seriously - yes, I have to agree with Alex that in an ideal truth movement we SHOULD try as hard as possible to avoid all that. Because the truth all too obviously is that neither politicians from the left OR the right could give less of a fuck about us than they do. There may be a few exceptions to that rule on both sides, but even if their intentions are good, they can't get anything done since they are working in a system that is dominated by lizard brain people.

But even though I agree with that statement of Alex, it's something that he himself is often guilty of imo. He's always going on about "the left this, the liberals that" while singing the praises of someone like Trump. He's a great guy for his guests to talk to as long as they are on the same page as him. But disagree with him on a certain topic and he will shout you down. The topic of guns being a classic example. I think that's wrong. The truth movement is already a minority the way it is. If we keep dividing ourselves up in tiny groups that can't stand each other we'll never get anywhere. We need to communicate with each other. Try to understand those we disagree with and look at it from their perspective. I agree with Sibel Edmonds when she said, "I don't care if you are left wing or right wing. Conservative, socialist or anarchist. If you believe that there is a conspiracy we have a basis on which we can work together."
I think the SOLUTION in this case is to change the narrative

We need to start pushing our own narrative to counter the narrative of the fascist/communist authoritarians

This involves people speaking about the need to decentralise power down to the people and away from the elites; a large part of that requires wrestling control of the money supply off them

we need to start talking in terms of liberty and personal ownership and of greater levels of democracy instead of allowing them to centralise power further and further away from us as they have done ie first to national parliaments then to EU parliament and then finally to UN world government parliament

Because everytime power centralises like that it moves further away from us (the people) and becomes less accountable to us and more and more under the control of the elites
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Old 10-02-2016, 01:44 PM   #91
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The awakening and how to assist it
part 1

I've spoken about the 'muir principle' of a person moving from knowing something to truely understanding it and how that shift is required before they are motivated to take any action. It's easy to get someone to know something because you simply tell them about something and then they are aware of it, but helping them to understand that it is actually real and not just a conspiracy theory is the hard part and in truth people will only assimilate something when they are ready to

This is because people usually believe what they want to believe. This is because humans are not rational creatures we are creatures capable of rational thought. So I'm going to outline some of the barriers as i see it to making that shift. These are reactions i've noticed over many years of trying to help others to see what i can see.

We've all heard the saying ''first they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you and then you win'' and many of us may have been through that process. So what are those stages going on there?

They ignore you because what you are saying is so far removed from their current perception of reality that they won't even entertain it. This is the INCREDULITY barrier. This one can be a tough one to surmount! However sometimes an event happens in the world which reminds them of what you've said and that then gets them thinking. The perception door creaks open a little!

They enter the SKEPTICAL phase. Here they will usually express doubt for your theory and may raise doubts. One common one is that they will say that there is no way that a large scale conspiracy could exist because someone somewhere would talk. However as we know the channels of information to peoples minds are tightly controlled for example with all the corporate media in the US owned by only 6 mega-corporations! This means information is disseminated from the same central source and just parrotted:



Often there are whistleblowers testimonies and even the incriminating words of the conspirators themselves which can be quoted or declassified documents that can be shared but the majority of people don't see these because they are receiving all their information from the usual tightly managed channels which have been heavily infiltrated by the intelligence services for example through 'project mockingbird' where the CIA gained control of the mainstream media in the US

But the conspiracy is able to prevent mass leaks because it is compartmentalised with people only knowing what they are told in their little compartment of the hierarchical pyramid

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Now You Can Find Out If YOUR Doctor Is Being Bribed by Big Pharma
February 10, 2016

by Dr Mercola

According to ProPublica’s “Dollars for Docs” website, which you can use to find out if your doctor accepts money from the drug industry, 1,630 companies have made payments to more than 681,000 doctors, totaling more than $3.5 billion.2

You can also find out if your doctor receives payments from Big Pharma by visiting OpenPaymentsData.CMS.gov. This site has tallied nearly $6.5 billion in payments since 2013.

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As stated in the following Sputnik interview getting out of the EU is the only way the UK can avoid the TTIP corporate power grab

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Organic farming 'could be key to feeding the world as global warming takes hold'
Major study finds chemical-free agriculture restores the soil and can produce higher yields than ‘conventional’ methods

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Saturday 13 February 2016

Organic farming – long held to be irrelevant in tackling world hunger – could be key to feeding the world as global warming takes hold, one of the biggest studies ever to be carried out into the “contentious” practice has concluded.

The research, which has reviewed hundreds of studies stretching back over four decades, not only overturns conventional wisdom but contradicts Britain’s official Food Standards Agency, which has repeatedly attacked chemical-free agriculture. It adds to emerging evidence that it may be more productive and profitable than conventional farming in the long term, especially in developing countries, and says it can provide an “ideal blueprint in addressing climate change”.

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How 'farmacy' practice, or using food as medicine, can change the world
Friday, February 19, 2016 by: Jennifer Lea Reynolds

In the name of demonstrating how effective plant-based whole foods are when it comes to improving health, Dr. Ronald Weiss actually sold his medical practice and opened up a "farmacy" by the name of Ethos Primary Care, to help others. The farmacy, located in Long Valley, New Jersey, is designed to do as the generic name implies: Rather than having people rely on traditional pharmacy practices, the concept is to show how farm-based, real foods contribute to better health more than any synthetic drug ever could – hence the word "farmacy."(1)

"Plant-based whole foods are the most powerful disease-modifying tools available to practitioners — more powerful than any drugs or surgeries," says Dr. Weiss. "I am not saying if you fall down and break your ankle, I can fix it by putting a salve ofmugwort [sic] on it. You need someone to fix your fracture," he explained. "I am talking about treating and preventing chronic disease — the heart attacks, the strokes, the cardiovascular disease, the cancers ... the illnesses that are taking our economy and our nation down."

To read on click on link above http://www.naturalnews.com/053030_fa..._medicine.html
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The dark future of medicine: Why your human doctor will be replaced by a pill-pushing robotic toilet that's tag-teamed with a Google Terminator compliance hunter-killer drone

Thursday, February 18, 2016
by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger

Before long, your pill-pushing doctor will be replaced by a pill-pushing AI toilet that's tag-teamed with a Terminator-style compliance android or drone.

Why? Because today's pharma-bribed doctors do almost nothing that can't be done by a sophisticated drug vending machine owned and operated by the pharmaceutical industry. Modern doctors, in other words, are little more than robotic pill pimps who offer absolutely nothing to patients that can't be done more cheaply and efficiently by automated systems. (And believe me, Big Pharma can't wait to take human doctors out of the loop entirely. It's one less group of people they have to bribe...)

to read more click on link http://www.naturalnews.com/053022_ro...mpliance.html#
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John McAfee the nominee of the LIBERTARIAN party in the US on the Ritchie Allen show discusses the backwardness of the beaurocracy of government

Ritchie raises the very valid point that governments hire 2 dimensional uncreative people because they tow the line and don't blow the whistle on the corrupt sort of things the government do

They also discuss CRYPTO-CURRENCIES

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Snowden endorses “zero knowledge” systems. In layman’s terms, this means that cloud storage providers NOT hostile to data privacy don’t just encrypt your data, but actually host your data without their ability to access it – ever. They have zero knowledge of the contents of your data. It’s a big distinction, but one easily missed by a public inundated with confusing doublespeak on data privacy.

Snowden adds “that’s the only way they can prove to the customers that they can be trusted with their information,” and makes specific reference to one cloud company, SpiderOak, as a provider of zero knowledge systems.

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iamawave...thank you very much for expending the time and effort to compile this post. I have just spent an hour reading through much of it and watched a number of the videos. Very thought provoking and uplifting. I will spend more time reading and watching as soon as I can.
Having scan read some of the content, I will go back and be more thorough, I particularly like the idea in post 9 about the Basic Universal Income proposed by the Finnish government instead of paying payments which has many attractive attributes.
Thanks again 😊
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iamawave...thank you very much for expending the time and effort to compile this post. I have just spent an hour reading through much of it and watched a number of the videos. Very thought provoking and uplifting. I will spend more time reading and watching as soon as I can.
Having scan read some of the content, I will go back and be more thorough, I particularly like the idea in post 9 about the Basic Universal Income proposed by the Finnish government instead of paying payments which has many attractive attributes.
Thanks again ��
thankyou!

i have tried to give a broad spectrum of ideas from the libertarian left to the libertarian right

when people ask anarchists what an anarchistic society would look like the anarchist has to answer that they don't know because it would be decided by everyone!

Unfortunately that sounds like a cop out to people who have been raised in a society where they are told what to do the whole time; it is a change of mindset to start thinking for yourself how you would want your world to actually be

But if we don't begin to build and discuss and visualise our own visions then the elites will maintain their current monopoly on reality

Concerning the basic income idea....i see pros and cons with it

On one hand it sweeps away all the clutter involved in administrating benefits and instead just shares out the money to everyone

But on the other hand it does encourage dependency on the state which is one of the main aims of political correctness ie to make us all dependent and enslaved to the state

Icke posted a good article looking at the pitfalls with it and i'll try and look it out

But i can certainly see the appeal as well because it would free many people upto be creative which would then feed back advantages to society

At the moment so many people are tied up with the slog of work

There is a bookshop in paris where the owner (who's dead now) allowed struggling writers to stay there for free as long as they provided a biography of themself so that they could focus on their writing and not have to take on work which would sap their creative energies

The british work more hours than most in europe and as a result generally have lower productivity. There comes a point where beyond that point the quality of work just goes down and i think it's all by design to keep people tired and worn out
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