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Old 20-09-2011, 03:06 PM   #101
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Old 20-09-2011, 04:30 PM   #102
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Incredible that this ideological nightmare has lasted so long on Earth. Tbh, we all have similar thoughts in our black hearts but only One group has turned it into an all consuming philosophy.
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Old 20-09-2011, 04:31 PM   #103
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Incredible that this ideological nightmare has lasted so long on Earth. Tbh, we all have similar thoughts in our black hearts but only One group has turned it into an all consuming philosophy.
I count more than that
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Old 20-09-2011, 05:59 PM   #104
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Oh i understand your point but how many of them get you at birth and make it virtually impossible to escape?
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Old 20-09-2011, 06:28 PM   #105
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Oh i understand your point but how many of them get you at birth and make it virtually impossible to escape?
Ask Diana Spencer

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Old 05-03-2012, 10:43 AM   #106
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Old 05-03-2012, 10:11 PM   #107
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Why is that? The chief rabbi of the sephardim. and ex leader of the shas party, great.

Nooo, the talmud only teaches love. To point out that such "non existent" teachings do exist is hate.


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Old 16-04-2012, 01:13 AM   #108
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Gee...start the video and see what it states! Fucking hilarious....
I'm not suprised...youtube is controlled by the Zionist Jews...not Jews...the Zionist Jews...angers me beyond all fuck...but then...wtf...
"Spams, scams and commercially deceptive content"?! Excuse me?!
Spamming? Nah, I think THEY are the spammers...
Scamming? They're the scammers...
Commercially deceptive content? Huh? Ummm...how so?
What the hell is "commercially deceptive" supposed to mean? That the video could be valuable to mass public-viewing then? That is exposes to the masses what the truth is? Hmmm... ZionTube is so interesting these days... :P

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Old 16-04-2012, 01:45 AM   #109
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there are fundamentalists of every race, religion and culture. The remarks were condemned by another jewish group as being utterly out of order. What is it exactly that you are trying to prove here? that screwed up thinking happens within the jewish community? yeah it does but similar sentiments can be found coming from groups that are not jewish.

More inflammatory tripe from tinyint.
Yes but these particular fundamentalists have the senate and congress of the most powerful nation on earth in their pockets.

Tick, tock, tick, tock...
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Old 16-04-2012, 01:50 AM   #110
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http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/...-jews-1.320235


Haaretz is the Israeli version of the Guardian... pretty mainstream by anyone's standards.

Perhaps it wasn't in the BRITISH mainstream media because it's quite simply not very important news for Britain - a religious crank making a comment 3000 miles away... why does that matter to the average white van or hairdresser. I'm sure it was news in the Jewish Chronicle and on Stormfront, though.
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Old 16-04-2012, 11:11 AM   #111
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http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/...-jews-1.320235


Haaretz is the Israeli version of the Guardian... pretty mainstream by anyone's standards.

Perhaps it wasn't in the BRITISH mainstream media because it's quite simply not very important news for Britain - a religious crank making a comment 3000 miles away... why does that matter to the average white van or hairdresser. I'm sure it was news in the Jewish Chronicle and on Stormfront, though.
I wonder why the jewish western hate media manages to find some crank 10000 miles away and reports on that for 2 weeks?
It matters, because these hypocrites do witch hunts usually, and terrorize local populations with their witch hunts.
It matters, because it was said by a chief rabbi and representative of a party, and confirms the hate in the talmud towards non jews.

Imagine some politician or priest has the audacity to tell the jews they'd live and work for non jews.
Heads off and an public apology would follow after persistent jewish snivel, for the next 2 weeks reported in the press.

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Old 16-04-2012, 11:35 AM   #112
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Id like that poor excuse for a human to say that to my face and see what I think of that particullar idea
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Old 16-04-2012, 11:41 AM   #113
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Why is that? The chief rabbi of the sephardim. and ex leader of the shas party, great.

Nooo, the talmud only teaches love. To point out that such "non existent" teachings do exist is hate.


















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The Talmud is as bad as the koran and I was born into a Jewish house hold.

When Jewish people start to expose zionism and the racist teachings in the Talmud etc

And Muslims start to expose the twisted and sick practice of Shariah then we maybe able to call ourselves Awake
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Old 16-04-2012, 11:44 AM   #114
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The Talmud is as bad as the koran and I was born into a Jewish house hold.

When Jewish people start to expose zionism and the racist teachings in the Talmud etc

And Muslims start to expose the twisted and sick practice of Shariah then we maybe able to call ourselves Awake
I agree, but leave your zionist anti-muslim rhetorics at home.
The wahabis are an evil sickness, as bad as their talmudic cousins.

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The U.S. Department of Defense has released translations of a number of Iraqi intelligence documents dating from Saddam’s rule. One, a General Military Intelligence Directorate report from September 2002, entitled “The Emergence of Wahhabism and its Historical Roots”, shows the Iraqi government was aware of the nefarious purposes of the Wahhabis of Saudi Arabia, often known as Salafis, in serving Western interests to undermine Islam.

The report relies heavily on the Memoirs of Mr. Hempher, which describe in detail how a British spy to the Middle East, in the middle of the eighteenth century, made contact with Adbul Wahhab, to create a subversive version of Islam, the notorious sect of Wahhabism, which became the founding cult of the Saudi regime. The movement was temporarily suppressed by the Ottomam armies in the middle of the nineteenth century. But with the assistance of the British, the Wahhabis and their Saudi sponsors returned to power and founded their own state in 1932. Since then, the Saudis have collaborated closely with the Americans, to whom they owe their tremendous oil wealth, in funding various Islamic fundamentalist organizations and other American covert operations, particularly the "jihad" in Afghanistan. But the Saudis simulatenously use the immense wealth at their dispossal to disseminate this disruptive brand of Islam to various parts of the world, categorized by some of the largest propaganda campaign in history.

Many who defend Wahhabism as a legitimate reform movement of Islam have tried to dismiss the Memoirs as a spurious fabrication. These include Bernard Haykel, Professor in Near Eastern Studies at Princeton University, who, without providing any evidence, presumes the Memoirs to have been created by Ayyub Sabri Pasha.

However, while the Memoirs only emerged in the 1970s, Pasha wrote his version of the story already in 1888. Ayyub Sabri Pasha was a well-known Ottoman writer and Turkish naval admiral, who served the Ottoman army in the Arabian Pensinsula, writing several works about the region and it's history. Including The Beginning and Spreading of Wahhabism, where he recounts Abdul Wahhab's association and plotting with Hempher.

In addition to that revealed in the Hempher Memoirs, the Iraqi intelligence report also makes known some surprising claims, derived from works circulated in Arabic which have not been translated into English. As the report recounts, both Abdul Wahhab, and his sponsor, ibn Saud, who founded the Saudi dynasty, were of Jewish origin.

For example, D. Mustafa Turan wrote, in The Donmeh Jews, that Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab was a descendant of a family of Donmeh Jews from Turkey. The Donmeh were descendants of followers of the infamous false-messiah of Judaism, Shabbetai Zevi, who shocked the Jewish world in 1666 by converting to Islam. Viewing it as a sacred mystery, Zevi's followers imitated his conversion to Islam, though secretly keeping to their Kabbalistic doctrines. In Europe, the Shabbeteans were eventually led a century later by Jacob Frank, claiming to be a reincarnation of Zevi. And, according to Rabbi Antelman in To Eliminate the Opiate, to them belonged the Rothschilds who had a hand in the founding of the Bavarian Illuminati. The Donmeh community of Turkey were concentrated in the city of Salonika, which became a hotbed of Masonic activity, and from which the Young Turk movement evolved, which aided in the collapse of the Muslim empire of the Ottoman Turks. There is evidence that Ataturk himself, the founder of the modern Turkish state, was of Donmeh origin as well.

Turan maintains that Abdul Wahhab's grandfather, Sulayman was actually Shulman, having belonged to the Jewish community of Bursa in Turkey. From there he settled in Damascus, where he feigned Islam, but was apparently expelled for practicing sorcery. He then fled to Egypt and he again faced condemnation, so made his way he to the Hijaz, where he got married and fathered Abdul Wahhab. According to the report, the same is claimed in The Donmeh Jews and the Origin of the Saudi Wahabis, Rifat Salim Kabar.

The notion of the Saudi family being of Jewish heritage has been published by Mohammad Sakher, who, it is claimed, was ordered killed by the regime for his revelations. The report relates a similar account, but from different sources. According The Wahabi Movement/The Truth and Roots, by Abdul Wahhab Ibrahim Al-Shammari, for example, ibn Saud is actually descended from Mordechai bin Ibrahim bin Mushi, a Jewish merchant from Basra. Apparently, when he was approached by members from the Arabian tribe of Aniza, then claimed to be one of them, and traveled with them to Najd and his name became Markhan bin Ibrahim bin Musa.

Additionally, Abdul Wahhab was descended from Wahib Al-Tamimi, so, as reported by al Said Nasir, in The History of the Saud Family, the Saudi ambassador in Cairo, Abdullah bin Ibrahim al Mufaddal, paid Muhammad Al-Tamimi thirty five thousand Jinee in the year 1943, to forge a family tree of the Saudi family and that of Abdul Wahhab, and merge them into one, claiming their origin from the Prophet Mohammed.

While it would be difficult to independantly authenticate these claims, they are interesting in light of the role that the state of Saudi Arabia has and continues to play with regards to supporting and advancing Western power in the Middle East and elsewhere. Especially astounding is the very dubious and virulent form of Islam, that Wahhabism and Salafism represent, which is currently wrecking havoc on Islamic traditions, and dividing the Muslim community in petty squabbles over trivial details, allowing the War on Islam to proceed effectively unchecked.

By David Livingstone taken from Kayhan International daily.

http://english.irib.ir/analysis/arti...-jewish-origin
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Old 16-04-2012, 11:53 AM   #115
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I agree, but leave your zionist anti-muslim rhetorics at home.
The wahabis are an evil sickness, as bad as their talmudic cousins.

Shariah law is as bad and as twisted as zionism and the Talmud is just as prejudiced.

Its time moderate Jewish people and muslims evolved away from this backward thinking.
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Old 16-04-2012, 12:00 PM   #116
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Shariah law is as bad and as twisted as zionism and the Talmud is just as prejudiced.

Its time moderate Jewish people and muslims evolved away from this backward thinking.
Sharia law is of the same evil source as the talmud.
However, the talmud is the original book, which advocated hate towards all non jews, and advocates child abuse(pedophilia).
And before you bring up child brides in muslim countries, same source... the desert cult.

However, I have a question, why do you think shia islam is targetted by apparently wahabis and zionits?
Why is it possible the Saudi occupy Bahrain and shoot at the shia protesters without any media coverage in the jewish western press?
In stead we see an engineered zionist/wahabi sponsored terrorist war against shia Al Assad.
Syria hosts many, many different religions and minorities.
What do you think will happen if the zionists succeed toppling Al Assad?
Eventually a nightmare as is still continued to happen in Libya?

PS: Its not that we wouldn't find hate and usury in the Tanakh, the jewish equvalent to the old testament. Is it? The Deuteromony(5. book of moses) is full of it.

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Old 16-04-2012, 01:36 PM   #117
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Sharia law is of the same evil source as the talmud.
However, the talmud is the original book, which advocated hate towards all non jews, and advocates child abuse(pedophilia).
And before you bring up child brides in muslim countries, same source... the desert cult.

However, I have a question, why do you think shia islam is targetted by apparently wahabis and zionits?
Why is it possible the Saudi occupy Bahrain and shoot at the shia protesters without any media coverage in the jewish western press?
In stead we see an engineered zionist/wahabi sponsored terrorist war against shia Al Assad.
Syria hosts many, many different religions and minorities.
What do you think will happen if the zionists succeed toppling Al Assad?
Eventually a nightmare as is still continued to happen in Libya?

PS: Its not that we wouldn't find hate and usury in the Tanakh, the jewish equvalent to the old testament. Is it? The Deuteromony(5. book of moses) is full of it.


We agree on something at last
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Old 16-04-2012, 03:56 PM   #118
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The Talmud is as bad as the koran and I was born into a Jewish house hold.

When Jewish people start to expose zionism and the racist teachings in the Talmud etc

And Muslims start to expose the twisted and sick practice of Shariah then we maybe able to call ourselves Awake
Of all Abrahamic religions!


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Old 16-04-2012, 06:46 PM   #119
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I just need to raise a point about this ovadia yosef quote.

So he says that Gentiles were born to serve Jews.

The fact has to be said, that as a general trend, Jews tend be good at business and good at professional services that require intellect. hence they are usually bosses, or equity partners in professional services firms.

So, It would be fair to say that most Jews are more used to gentiles serving them rather than them serving gentiles.

Therefore, is it not a reasonable inference for Rabbi Yosef to make, that gentiles are born to serve jews, because jews are generally smart and will end up in positions of control over gentiles in business?

It is not 'politically correct', but it's not a bad attitude to have really: people who are not part of my tribe should serve people who are members of my tribe.

From a self-interested, British liberal point of view as epoused by Locke, Hume, Hobbes etc, It's a common sense position, rather than all the Ickeys on this forum posturing how 'in the coming society' all wealth will be distributed according to 'compassion' between human beings who are all equal as vibrating matter?
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Old 16-04-2012, 09:19 PM   #120
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Why is that? The chief rabbi of the sephardim. and ex leader of the shas party, great.

Nooo, the talmud only teaches love. To point out that such "non existent" teachings do exist is hate.

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Jews are a paranoid self serving people. People who have understood jews for centuries have had nothing good to say about them....ever.

Therefore, the only way jews can justify themselves is by trying to turn the tables, instill a guilt complex, and to "teach" people to serve the jew, wether by direct or indirect means.

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