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Old 06-07-2009, 09:40 PM   #1
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 7:21 am

Eternal thanks to all of merit.

For that is part of the reasoning for TOA, is a project for all of us where I hold no secrets or false pretenses to hinder your quests of our histories or unknown truths.

The path is open with the rune stones of knowledge on either side along the way to the Olive Tree.

The greatest of reasons is for all of you to know, that TOA is also YOUR project as well....

if, you merit the reward, the reward will be earned.

No matter how small or ignorant you feel you are, what you say CAN BE important and recognized towards any contributions of understanding our histories and cultures around the Monde.

(World isn't really a good word for an upside down M. It's too close to WAR for suggestive negative implants)

This wild and crazy adventure of mine, beyond the capabilities of my mind as a Uman, is quite a tale of many new eyes of vision and understanding for Atlantis, Theologies, Philosophies, Religions, This World and Ourselves.

The research has taken us to a spiritual height of awakening to better understand hidden meanings and why it is that many of our faults are not of our own reasoning but of others.

And why it is important for us to understand our self forgiveness and shed our skins of burden for new skins of AeJon, or eternal light of The Father. (for me, Father or the only God is, JA MN.)

Or a new joy of personal gratification and inner peace.

For to know is immortal, but to know and still do evils is mortal and darkness for your fates.

For up to now, most of you don't realize why yourselves, your parents, and their parents or our future children, pass on and behave they way we all did.

When you realize this, then you will Know why.

And that is when your new awakening of self forgiveness is realized also.

But to still do evils after this point.......tsk tsk. (you can be bad but not harmful to other life forms against their wills)

I just feel I need to get this message out to people, for from the form comes the con-form or altered vision and understanding.

Now you know.

If you don't...ask me.

In the course of TOA, we have discovered;

Azores Atlantis 1 Continental Island - 150 million - 6482.bC
Lake Tritonis (Atlanteans and Ataranteans > Herodotus)
Cabo de Avila Atlantean city in Mozambique
Bur at alhitan in Egypt
Talha and Al Mansura, Kom el Hisn, Iwa, Memphis, Sais and Buto were once an Atlantean kingdom as commerative on the Narmer Palette.

Atlanteans = Tatenen
Fatherland, Risen Earth Land = Tatenen = The Double Falcons 3250 - 4250.bC Egypt.
(basicaly the general name for the cultures of antiquity and earth like Humans )
Atlantean Cities and Cultures
Atlantean Tarxien (Tarshish) Dragon Claw Orbis Ships (Gebel el Arak Knife and Phaistos Disk)
Atlantean mysterious machine
Atlantean Ship on Stonehenge
Phoenicians are Atlanteans
Egyptians are Atlanteans (Pharoah Menes and Neit for example)
Many nations are Atlanteans and still consist of Atlanteans.
Timaeus is the original account
Critias was altered with a secret message and moved ahead the Atlantean story to after the Deukalion event.
The Deukalion event most likely is the Santorini, Thera and Mt.Aetna event ca 1625.bC
Deukalion means 10 kings which was the mainstream thought for the mediterranean after.
Etruscan Sceptre with 10 lion kings and a Dragon Handle (Ampheres)
Etruscan Commemorative Sword with a Dragon Handle
Etruscan Araklum (Orichalcum) multi lion bracelet
Cycladic 2850.bC stone map of Atlantis with 5 mountains and a canal bordering 7 concentric circles.
Tarshis = foreign ship farers of the mediterranean
Tharsis = Graecian Cycladic Islands Flourishing Ship Market
Tartessos = Eretrea = Sunken Ormonde Seamount = a rich and luxurious island of abundance and beauty closely associated with Goddesses (sic , Cybele, Maia or Amazons), also a proponent of Tartarus.
Earliest mentioning of Tartessos and not Tartarus, I found to be of Anacreon the bacchic poetic sot, 570.bC and around the time of Solon.
Samians brought back the image of the Griffin from Atlantean Tartessos (Herodotus)
Ancient Greeks envisioned the messenia straite as also alike pillars of hercules when they were Pelasgians prior to Deukalion where after they became Hellenic Greeks from their eastern mergers. From Hesiod to our time the pillars are confirmed at Gibraltar.
Like Temples of Neptune or Athena, Temples of Hercules were common around the mediterranean.
After the Deukalion event, and just before to a focal 2000.bC for the subjugations of nubia by southern egyptians (basicaly after Narmer really), many kingdoms around the mediterranean were subjugated and continuous warring was frequent with many histories, myths and religions altered or absorbed. (5500 year old war that still continues today with Iraq for the same purposes of yesterday and mostly for financial securities of gnols from Hellion with world dominational intentions. (banks, governments, armies of mites)

It is Euro-Indian and not Indo - European, for the serpents are of the east and griffins of the west.

The Pyramids and the Sphinx were built by Atlanteans.
The Phoenix is an Atlantean bird.
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Religion.
What can I say? To Know is immortal.

The many lies of Egypt and Phoenician Mesopotamia and Sumer or any nation are disclosed.
The many lies of the bible disclosed.
The many lies of Eastern or Asian doctrines disclosed or Americas for the matter.
6 billion people and a handful know God who can only be One Father. Most just believe in him without knowing him.
Stubbornly, we have many Gods and Goddesses when they are lords or princes if you like. (God already warned us)
I came to know him at 44 years of age as JA MN and he has a Wife, our Holy Ghost they call Her for their stubborn shame of women, those black oracles of secret societies.
One of his Sons, Mr.34, Jesa The Pure, was murdered December the 10th, 3474.bC in middle egypt by Snoferu, the Hermaphrodite which disclosed 885 missing years from Khufu and NEW sun worship temples.
This is the Secret of The Apis bull, where the First Apis slaughter festival was in the era of Menes from the subjugations of Narmer (Nathaniel, Hathor and Sekhmet).
The Temple (Serapaeum) of The Son of Man revealed some 5000 miles where it was moved from Egypt.
An identical Serapaeum ground image also appears of another Serapaeum in Alexandria Egypt where The Pillar of Pompeii stands.
The Serapaeum is where the Secrets of The Son of Man could be studied and his horrendous murder.
The Decoding of The Pyramids leads us to the Carina Nebula star system where the image of The Ascension of The Son of Man is visible from a Hubble Space Telescope picture.

The True Garden of Avila (Eden) and the message of Father JA Mn as the Secret of The Eye of Ra
The image of an Apis Bull in The Garden of Avila in Tanzania, Africa (Avila)
Father JA MNs name on top of the great pyramid in Cairo, twin to the Red Pyramid of Saqqara.
Father JA MNs face and cap with Ja written on it and a long beard that was tied on the airshaft stone plug in the great pyramid which Zawi Hawass(ZAH of HOH), sent robots into to spray acid and further conceal the coverup of Tatenean Atlanteans and distract us by drilling a stubborn hole in a very important stone to see what could not be seen, it was an airshaft after all, the message was on the stone.
(if the egyptians wanted to hide something of importance, like the book of thoth or scrolls in a pyramid, they would have put them inside of a certain stone and not in an airshaft other than the stone plug itself.

(funny because it is not the face of Khufu...nor did khufu write his name up there, but a disgruntled employee looking for get rich quick themes or a purposeful distraction like the talatat blocks of egypt from glorious temples that were destroyed by demented people. No other pharaoh has their names in pyramids either. That is why they truly belong to JA and his Tatenean Atlanteans ca The Double Falcon Era.)

The Greatest Flood - 6482.bC - 2nd Garden (Avila) Re-Creation - 6435.bC
Hathor Flood end of Double Falcon era beginning of Hathor - 3250.bC
Deukalion Flood - 1625.bC
(scholar bibilical flood - 2350.bC) Zidiots.

Today's date - 8489.aJA

The Garden of Evil in Khenya's rift Valley where the Sealed Pit of Zatan is.
The Dark Seal, The Three Headed Dragon, The Skull of Apocolypse.
(Our new understandings of Evil = ZA = Fallen Son > SA = Risen Son)
Evil = HOH / AHA , Hellions / Gnols or Magnols, ON, OB, OG and OG MAGOG
Two Harlots of HOH (OB) = Hathor / Sekhmet > Isis / Athirat > Eliza - BathSheba
The False Pillars of JoAb and boAZ = JA and ZA and the two harlots OBs.
Isis = Twin sisters

Osiris, Isis and Horus (black = Za golden = SA) replace Menes and Neit and Prince Tejati.
Menes murdered like Osiris and Neit subjugated with HOtep.
Djet and Neit symbolism replaced by ptAH (Egy-pt = ptAH)
DJ means "of JA or From JA

Horus born on December the 10th, according to the Egyptian Calendar, same day as the murder of Jesa The Pure, Mr.34.

Day of Destruction is also November 1st for Egypt and The Eye of Ra's Wrath. (All Saints Day)
5 mountains were memorized in Egypt also in the predynastic era. (compare cycladic map of atlantis)
5 stars around hathors' head and 10 fallen kings on the narmer pallette symbolize Atlantis.
(narmer palette is a commemorative to those fallen Tateneans of Khom el Hisn, Iwa and Memphis)

Father JA's name converted to Harlot YA of the HOH hellions Hermaphrodite Queen YAHOBA (compare YAHOWEH)

JAVAN = JA's Sea Farers ( we don't call you YEWS, do we?)

Y is the symbol of a Hermaphrodite or a V (female - oVum) on top of an I (male -insertion -phallus)
Therefore, Nefarious Hermaphrodite Gods of Evil Southern Egyptians and your terms for self creators.
Southern Egyptians learned the Voodoo of Yoruba from her hill in Tanzania also where it was carried to from Khenya as the Dark Prince passed through the Garden of Avila to take advantage of AjA in Tanzania near the ngorongorongo crater. This poison carried up with Narmer and heightened around Unas (Tower of Confused languages) with the purpose for Snoferu's Neferous Stain to murder the Son of Man and allow the Golden Horus ( Sa or his Risen Son Jesa The Pure) to be murdered by a crooked dagger in his heart on the alter in the serapeaum, then tossed to the Draconian Crocodiles of Orion and Sirius.

The Bright Star is Venus and Mercury as ONE in 3474.bC while Jupiter lay overhead and the Crux is upside down like the coffin in the devils star of David where the Black Prince also visited the tabernacale at his worshipped pillars of Joab and Boaz in Sole of no man's Temple of Eliza Baal Beth.

Cuneiform languages are languages of evil like the Saba Zaius or Sadducee Scribes of ZaH.

Phoenicians of Sidon and Byblos gained control as the spiralling downfall of Egypt was inevitable and mostly due in part also by the Ramses Kings and their Eastern mergers of Royal Bloodlines.

Phoenicians win the pot, claim God the bible, satan and the ark and continue the subjugations of kingdoms to aid in the spread of black oracles of blackened brine and square heads with broad arses as Socrates liked to call those Serpent tongues of Baal.

The Hebrews are from Egypt who settled in Phoenicia and provocated the myths and religions of other nations with the backbone of early babylonian scripts and proverbs.

There was no Exodus of Hebrews, rather a migration to new lands after Mycerinos ended the curse on Egypt from Khufu (150 years).

According to the bible, abraham would have been around the 12th century ad if we figure out the genealogical dates of Joseph to Noah where the bible scholars also claim 2350.bC for the flood and a peak of around 6000.bC for the bible.

Which reflects my date of 6482.bC.

As the names of the Pharaohs are hidden from your knowledge on purpose in the bible, (wise as they were to remember thousands of other names), so too did they not mention Cain and Abel in the Genealogies of Adam but they told you what happened to them and how Cain was married and had a Son....
Zidiots.

The Ark has been on an altar in Egypt since the first dynasty or some 5000 years.

Dynasty 0 is The Tatenean Atlantean Dynasty in reality - 3250 -4250.bC.

Tharkan and Tsh Tsh of Dynasty 0 (prior to Menes), also portray the earlier settlements of the Tarshish cultures who settled the mediterranean lands like Tyro prior to Sidon and Bybullshitos.

According to the Atlantean Kings names in The Critias, Mneseus and Evaemon most closely portray Atlanteans in direct relation to the hidden message of Plato?, and The Hellicon Muses as we will see next from our discovery of hidden secret messages in latin by bostrephodon translations of the names in order as they appear.

We have already discovered the hidden and missing 10th Muse or MYLO from Hesiod and Herodotus (750 -440.bC) Where it is the reasoning behind the Dark Ages of Greece from the Perio-Phoenician -Egypto takeovers. ( Jove becomes Zeus from Saba Zaius(ZAH), Juno becomes Hera, Neptune become Poseidon after 1625.bC)

Lately I discovered the Secret of The Names of the Atlanteans in The Critias which is where a new door of understanding is also open for further discoveries for our researches.

Linear A is our Root Language and our Alphabets Origins which precede Egypt's Dynasties.
The Phoenicians brought linear A script back from Tartessian Iberian scripts and glorified themselves with Linear B as the parent alphabet (Zidiots)
Linear A letters contain a Secret Galactic Message.
A is Risen
Z is Fallen (drawn by an AnX -Ankh /Anch - Evil pin or Anchor of Mn. (trapped like 8 or 33)

EvenorLeucippeCleitoAtlasGadeirusAmpheresEvaemonMn eseusAutochthonElasippusMestorAzaesDiaprepes

Latin Boustrephodon (backwards)
se-perpaid-se-azar-otsem-suppi-saleno-h-th-cotua-suesen-mnom-ea-vesere-hp-masurie-dags-alt-aotiel-ceppicu-elron-eve

A 2,367 year old secret revealed from Paulo Riven.

Oftenly, their ruler, at his leisure would steal secretly to the Salentini secret society at the south east end of Italy with a band of brothers of the macedonian army, while you were accustomed to your memory, towards evening in a galley with seven banks of oars.
The Marsians (tall male germanic scythians) and Dacians (lower Danube) , went to where the high altar's fire is lit by the Boeotian women, the muses of Aonia near mount Helicon and the spring of Aganippe, the resort of the muses by the river Cephisus in Boeotia to compose by candlelight in the evening. - Paulo J.Tx.Mn (Riven) 2007.aD. (8489.aJA).

Evanor - The Ruler
Leucippe - The General
Cleito - The meeting Hill of The Helicon Muses
Atlas - near a tall mountain - Helikon
Gadeiros - by the throat of a river - Cepphisus
Ampheres - on one side of the river (WEST - Griffin Cultures / Cobra)
Evaemon - Cyrene Libyan Greeks and Etruscans
Mneseus - Atlantean Minoan Lord of The Mediterranean and Delta Nile
Autochthon - who are indegenious to these lands (Europe and Africa)

Elasippus - fought the horse riders on the other side of the river (EAST - Serpent Cultures / Vulture)

Mestor - the Persian Phoenicians Sumerians and Southern Egyptians
Azaes - the Nubians and AraBianZ
Diaprepes - and the Aethiopians and India (Secrets of Tanzania / JA)

Sure is easy to see the truer Atlanteans and understand the saturation of Helike in comparison to the Muses and the Atlantean battle.

It looks to me as if the truth is that Greece and Sicily and Otranto, as their history also reflects, sided with the East against the Cyrenaic Cycladic / Pelasgo / Augustan Atlanteans and the rest of Europe who were in fact the truer Atlanteans.

The other cultures lavished riches and distanced themselves from Father and wanted to be like Father so they glorified themselves at our expenses from the poisons of Southern Egypt and Nubia and subjugated many kingdoms.

Today they do it with White Collars and pens of adamonite steel and false wars of economic extortions.
And a bunch of idiots who believe in them.
For if you believe in them, truly they shall prosper, as they have and do.

At your expense.

Like I said, Atlantis still effects us today because it reveals our truths and distortions and doctrines the fundamentalisms of todays deceptions.

Back to our little discussion here for those of silence out there.

In understanding of Plato's confinement and Dionysios being a traitor to the east with south east italy, we would say this battle took place around 360.bC and compare it with Persian Xerxes and one of the largest wars of ancient history, including Ships.

True, in the sense that Carthage also posed a threat around this time also, perhaps for aid of Cyrenaea Libya.

Either way we look at the message, it is clear, both for the bostrephodon hidden latin message from the Atlantean Names, and from the meaning of those names.

So, that is the true purpose of the names while on the other hand, because of the great intelligence of Plato, he also realized a way to describe the cultures without identifying the rulers, while at the same time, telling a true legend from yesterday that speaks of 9000 years from 570.bC and sworn to truth and to pass on a secret message of a bad king for the politics of his day.

In reality, I would say the truth of Atlantis was remembered by the Minoans, Pelasgians and especially the very lucrative and bustling trading market of Tharsis - The Cyclade Islands.
A great place to hear legends from around the World or Monde
(those Z's like to turn everything topsy turvey > W - M)

The indication seems to imply that Minoans or Mneseus were the closest to Atlanteans and identifies with Sea Farers entering the mediterranean to settle foundations.
Naturaly, Mneseus also identifies with Pharaoh Menes and Father Ja Mn, creator of Atlanteans (Evenor > EJANOR > AeJON. (eternal Father)
Minoans would also include the Etruscans, Sicanni's, Pelasgians, Creteans and Tarxiens of Malta and The Cyclades or any cultures sailing in the mediterranean.

Children of Min or Men / MN = JAVANS or Children of JA sailing Ships > Tarshish.
Where we also understand the Minoans were the first to rule the Mediterranean Thallassocracy.

With reference to understanding when the actual Atlantean battle took place, brings to my mind only two specific timelines.

1579.bC - from Georgeos Diaz MONteXanos (mount of Chians > Caanans?) research to propose that 9000 years meant 1009 years prior 570.bC.
A time very easily understood for the crippling of the Deukalion Event ca this era to 1625.bC when the Hyksos took over and instigated Zeus from Egyptian doctrines of Saba Zaius.
Deukalion means 10 Kings and we have my Etruscan Sceptre of Ampheres with 10 Lions on it to proclaim this verity as we also do ten kings of Atlantis and many nations.
This is also an era of much commerce and trade where many books of greek philosophies and doctrines should be available but they are not and we only know of Homer (HA HA) ca 800.bC where most of the eastern kingdoms rise here around egypt's intermediate era and due to the "drop my pants and bend over" philosophies of the Ram ZeZ pHAroHAs.

Like everything else they tell us to get lost for it is lost......to pergamon for Phoenicia? (HA HA)

The other focal point as you know for Atlantean King Menes is...3250.bC and The Flood of Hathor.

So here we have two major events with two great floods and a stronger indication for 3250.bC by Atlantean King Menes- one of the 10 kings on the narmer palette.

As for 1579.bC of Georgeos, their should be a lot of info for this time frame which is also around The Eleusian Wars and The Battle of Ares.

As we also know, Atlanteans never disappeared but a city and island did!

General Leucippe you say, eh?


Well, that's a general outline of where we are at in our Research, but not entirely for this post is long enough!!!

I Love U All to Never Fall.
By The Grace of My Face in Your True Garden.

Miracles do happen.

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King Paulo J.Tx.Mn
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Sword of Avila
King of The Double Falcons of Mn
Son of Father Ja Mn
Breaker of Brazened Chains of Cain.

JA = Jao = Jon = AeJon = Eternal Father = Eternal Kingdom beyond the Oval Light.

Father AeJon Guide Us.

Thank you for any and every contributions you make to TOA...

no matter how small or how old you are....

United We Stand like our letter A.

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Great work, Aejor Mn. Do post more if you have more.
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Thankyou synergy777 and zero1, here's some more info for those interested in learning their Atlantean heritage.


Atlantis is a legend that was preserved by the Egyptians and Greeks from 9570.bC, according to the Atlantean Script of Solon, a Greek Statesman, who received this knowledge of Atlantis, upon his visit to Sais, Egypt and the Libyan Pharaoh, Amasis II, ca 570.bC, and Wedjahor-Resne, the Egyptian Priest, Physician and Naval Admiral.

Unknown to the Greeks, it was forgotten and retained from Egypt as Plato's, Timaeus tells us, written in 360.bC.
Chalcidius, ca 350.aD, a Latin Scribe, would preserve Plato's work from his original notebook, (based on my study of Oxford's, Ms.Digby slides of the originals and translated by myself) and later penned perhaps in Syracuse, Sicily, around 350.aD.
To better understand Atlantis, it is easier to view the Timaeus as the original mention of the Legend which was cleverly "Hidden" in the Astrological account of life's origins and dynamics of Physics, which takes us back to the said 9000 years prior, to the seed of He-Phaestus and Athena.


In the Timaeus dialogue,scroll down to this following line and you only need to read the part concerning Atlantis.

"Crit. Then listen, Socrates, to a tale which, though strange, is certainly true, having been attested by Solon,.."

http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/timaeus.html


The Critias dialogue was written after the Timaeus and goes into much more detail about Atlantis.

http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/critias.html

The Ten Kings of Atlantis translated by Paulo Riven.

Please note that these are Greek names of the meaning of the Atlantean names in Egyptian as translated by Solon.
They are not the actual Atlantean names.

The best name I can come up with for Atlantis is ATATANA which is also close to TATENEN.
As you can see,Atatana is comprised of 4 A's meaning The Family of Father,Mother,Son and Daughter, with 2 T's for Pillars and N for Nu/Nun or Ocean. TA also means Earth in Egyptian as Terra also does for Europe.


Atlantis = Atlant (Fatherland, Risen Land, Island of Atlas, Foremost Island)

Father= Aita,(Basque)/ Patra,Atta,(Greek)/ Pater,(Latin)/ it,(Egyptian)

TA-TEN-EN = Old Egyptian > Risen Primordial Hill of Creation.
Hat.nt.iw = foremost island of Neith
Khenty-amenti - foremost of westerners

Plato translated Risen as epanateilantos > anateilantos > ateilantos > atilantos > atlantos > atlantis.
We can also relate the old Greek word of ATE as ruined land.


The Founders of Atlantis

Evenor ( primeval firstborn, arrive with strength, vanishing,Evadne/Euadne-Very Holy,Evenus/Euenos-River God, Eunomos-Good Order )

Leucippe (Lux Ipse-Light of Beautiful Self, White Shining Light, Grove of White Horses, White Poplar-Leuke)

Cleito (emperor’s favorite, famous, sloping hill, muse of history-Kleio)


The 10 Kings of Atlantis

Atlas ( Fatherson,risen son,foremost of the people;at-laos, enduring-tlao, ruined stone;ate-las=mountain=Giant man )

Gadeiros ( Great of body;Giant man, Green body of rivers, Gaaeus-herder of fish, Eumeleus-rich in sheep;Greek,great in goats;Phoenician)

Ampheres (to rest, at both sides, spiritual, Ampelos-Grapevine, disputing)

Evaemon ( fortunate woman, holy, River goddess, good order-Eunomos )

Mneseus ( memory of a great warrior or God, Minoan Sea Lord )

Autochthon ( earthborn , native, self acting;automatos)

Elassipos ( horse riding, rulers, golden, Eleos-merciful,Elpis-hope )

Mestor ( NNE middle, Suitor, advisor, highly regarded )

Azaes (Heat or Ashened one, dark skinned)

Diaprepes (Written Knowledge of God, Divine, highly distinguished )


The Secret of Mylo and The Books of Herodotus by Riven. 2006.aD. (8488aJA.)
9:05 PM 1/12/2006

Herodotus of Halicarnassus.440.bC.

Book 1) Clio
Book 2) Euterpe
Book 3) Thalia
Book 4) Melpomene
Book 5) Terpsichore
Book 6) Erato
Book 7) Polymnia
Book 8) Urania
Book 9) Calliope

Book 10) Where is it? Someone has it.

The Secret of the Books of Herodotus by Riven.

The 9 muses in order;

Clioeuterpethaliamelpomeneterpsichoreeratopolymnia uraniacalliope.

The 9 muses in bostrephodon(backwards)

Epoillacainaruainmylopotareerohcispretenemoplemail ahtepretueoilc.

The hidden Latin message;

Epo- illa- caina- rua- in- mylo- potare- ero- h(ae)cis- pretene- moplema(Mopsus)- ila- hete- pretueo- ilc.

Translation;

Epic by that way fallen (Vulcan?)to waste/sorrow into this MYLO > Mysian/ drunken wanderer with his faults, to lie before the Oracle broken Secret Society greatly prized here.

Translated with Cassell's New Latin Dictionary, 1959 edition.
By Riven Jan 12,2006.aD (8488aJA.)

I did have a website up,but not at present.

You can read my "Wisdom of the first book of Atlanteans" here;
http://tribesofatlantis.blogspot.com/

Some pics are available here;
https://sites.google.com/site/tribesofatlantis/Home

and here;
http://picasaweb.google.ca/AejorMn111

Tribes of Atlantis threads 1-3 so far are available at;

Atlantis Rising Forums; http://www.atlantisrising.com/index.shtml

Book of Thoth forums has another threads 1-2 so far;

http://www.book-of-thoth.com/forum-26.html

Atlantis online is another good research site I also post at;

http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php


Egyptian;

http://www.reshafim.org.il/ad/egypt/

http://xoomer.virgilio.it/francescoraf/index.htm

Greek mythology

http://homepage.mac.com/cparada/GML/index.html

http://www.theoi.com/
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Old 09-07-2009, 10:46 PM   #5
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I decided to post my latest paper here so it would be easier to find and reference.
When I composed this thesis I had no internet so I had to rely on notes that I had on my computer.

The Flight of a Kings Golden Sandals will provide evidence for my support that the meaning of 9000 and 8000 years was based on generations that was common thought for Plato,Herodotus and Solon to name a few of our histories great thinkers.

Generations were composed of 100 years for every 3 people. So technicaly it would be correct to say that Sais,Egypt was founded 8000 years prior to Amassis or 11,340 years for 341 kings as Herodotus stated. The problem is that Egypt's histories were recorded by kings reigns and not average lifespans or generations. A prime example of this are the 10 Biblical Patriarchs from Adam to Noah who span some 8000+ years to the flood, but are actualy only 1656 hebrew years to the flood based on when the age they had their first sons.

As you will see from the paper and when we consider our modern records for Egypt,the kings lists average some 10.96 years for the modern 244 kings as recorded on the Turin Papyrus. This translates into an error factor of 2.79 for Herodotus as compared to our modern list as shown.

Many people have a difficult time accepting Atlantis at 9000 or 8000 years prior to Amassis when it describes a bronze age culture in the Critias. The generation theory transforms Atlantis at the beginning of the Bronze age which makes it easier to accept Atlantis at a time known before Phoroneus ca1800.bC, since this was as far back as Solon could remember, and also a time of the "Greatest Flood of All" or some 3 floods prior to Deukalion as recorded in the Critias. This also compliments the era of Taurus from a 2000-4000.bC that became common for Bull worship as the Atlanteans also did as well as Egypt and Asia.

I hope you all enjoy this paper and that it marks a milestone for Atlantis and Egypt.

Paulo Riven.

.111.[R].Flight of a King's Golden Sandals.[R].111.

EGYPT;

The Turin Canon of Egyptian Kings starts off with the title II,11:Menes and ends at II,25:Aaka.
10 Kings are missing prior to Menes to account for Turin II,1:- II,10 and II,14: is also missing.
In any case the count for section II is 25. If the missing II,14 is a type error and the count should be 24,I am uncertain although it appears apparent because Djer and Djet follow another in kings lists and a missing 14 would indicate an unknown king between djer and djet.
Section V is missing 13 kings but yet a count of 25 is maintained. Why the numbers are not viewable and in proper sequence with a note of lost king or unknown I am uncertain which questions how they knew the proper count. I can only presume the papyrus was damaged at the missing counts and this is the best conclusion of modern scholars.
The indication of the Turin Canon list is that there should also be a section I,1: with another 25 kings more or less,plus the missing 11 kings of section II: would total 36 kings which can also be confirmed by the Palermo Stone based on a 24 inch width @ 0.65in horizontal square spacing for the kings.(36.9 kings).

I find it ironic that the Narmer Palette ca.3200.bC(Menes),on the Lower Egyptian side displays 10 fallen Kings which could have been the missing 10 Kings of section II,1-10: for the Turin Canon. Both the Narmer Palette and Palermo stone indicate kings of lower Egypt prior to Menes.

Turin Canon section:

II = 25 (1-10 and 14 missing)
III= 25
IV = 26
V = 25 (1-11 and 18,19 missing)
VI = 27 (3,4 missing)
vII = 23 (12 and 19 missing)
VIII = 27
IX = 31 ( 3-6 and 11-13 missing)
X = 28 (13,21,22 missing)
XI = 17 (end of list)
Total = 254 kings
missing = actual number in sequence on the list

We can propose that each section should average 25 kings plus 11 missing prior to Menes would total some 36 kings missing if we are to perceive that the Turin Canon should also have a section I:1-25 prior to section II: with Menes.
Considering an average of 30 year generations per king would equal 1080 years of kings chronologies. With the current 3200.bC for Menes plus our 1080 years would be 4280.bC.
This would be around the advent of the Egyptian Calendar ca.4241.bC and also in relation to the Palermo Stone Kings list.

The Palermo Stone is the broken piece (0.435m-H,0.25m-W,6.5cm-D) of a middle section of stone slab said to have been some 7 feet long by 2 feet wide and found laying on it's long side. The broken piece of stone was inscribed on both sides with kings of Egypt for the 1st to 5th Dynasties,the length of years they reigned and the foremost account for each year such as religious feasts,battles or cattle counts. Prior to Pharaoh Menes of the first dynasty there are only 9 Pharaohs visible on the stone who are all kings of Lower Egypt.
It has been estimated that there may have been some 120 Pharaohs prior to Menes on the stone as Prof.James Breasted stated,although some may have been Gods or Goddesses and space may have been taken up for religious or creationist stories.

The estimate above of 120 kings prior to Menes,would have to be based on the rows extending the length of the stone at 7ft.
If that is the case,this stone would have had to been mounted on top of a table lengthwise to be able to read both sides of 9 rows per side.
I envision that the stone stood 7ft upright and read from top to bottom and right to left,which would then be scribed with 30 rows per side of a 2ft width.
In this case only some 36 kings would be prior to Menes and more feasible in regard to the Egyptian calendars origin and the missing kings of the Turin Canon's Sec;I,1-25 + II,1-11 prior to Menes.
In any case,at present I am unaware of the actual setting of the stone if upright or lengthwise where in my opinion seems to be upright.

1m = 39.37 in.
0.25m = 9.843 in. wide
0.435m = 17.126 in. high
Row 1 = approx 15 kings names lower Egypt. 0.65in.square per king.(9.843/15=0.65)
24in(2ft)width = 36.9 kings. 84in(7ft)width = 129.2 kings
17.126in./6 Rows visible = 2.85in per row.(includes spaces above year records)
4 rows avg.12 years per row @ 0.25m wide = O.82in. square spacing per year.
24in,(29.3yrs) = 8.42 rows,(246.7yrs). 84in,(102.4yrs) = 29.47 rows,(863.5yrs).
24in.Height and 84in width = 8.42 rows x 102.4yrs per row = 862.21yrs (slab lengthwise)
84in.Height and 24in width = 29.47 rows x 29.3yrs per row = 863.47yrs (slab upright)

Approx 760 years(less first row of kings side a) + 860 years side B = estimated 1620 years.
(3200-1620 = 1580.bC date for the stone's origin? Less error of 1-200yrs? 1380.bC?)
(*width of yearly record squares do vary by the scribe to account for more or less data.)
Height of horizontal rows and kings squares prior to Menes appear consistent in size.

Of the 9 Pharaohs visible prior to Menes,2 cannot be clearly identified.(* The era of these Pharaohs prior to Menes is uncertain and not immediately prior)

From right to left they are; ____-pu(pw); Seka(Sk'); Khayu(H'-yw); Teyew(Tyw); Thesh(Ts); Ne"heb(N-"hb); Wazenez(W'd-'nd); Mekh(Mh); ____-a.

(*The stone is read from right to left,Seka(Sekau) would be the oldest king mentioned. The z in Wazenez can also be dj. Ne"heb may be Necheb or Nekheb.)

Turin Canon II,11 - III,25
II,11: Menes (Narmer)
II,12: Iteti (Aha)
II,13: Iti (Djer)
II,15: Itiui (Djet)
II,16: Semti (Den)
II,17: Merbiapen (Anedjib) 74 years
II,18: Semsem (Semerkhet) 72 years
II,19: Kebehu (Qa'a) 63 years
II,20: Baw-Netjer (Hotepsekhemwi) 95 years
II,21: Kakaw (Reneb)
II,22: Banetjer (Ninetjer) 95 years
II,23: Unknown name, 54 years - may be Peribsen/Sekhemib
II,24: Sened, 70? Years
II,25: Aaka (?), possibly Neferkare
III,1: Neferkasokar (?) 8 years 3 months
III,2: /erased/, 1 year 8 months, 4 days (or 8 years 4 months)
III,3: Bebti (Khasekhemwi), 27 years, 2 months, 1 day; his lifetime being 40 + X
III,4: Nebka, 19 years
III,5: Djoser-it (Netjerikhet), 19 years 1 month
III,6: Djoser-ti (Sekhemkhet) 6 years
III,7: /erased/ (Khaba?) 6 years
III,8: Huni, 24 years
III,9: Snofru, 24 years
III,10: Kheops, 23 years
III,11: Djedefre, 8 years
III,12: Khefren, ? years
III,13: Bakare (?), ? years
III,14: Mykerinos, 18 years (possibly 28)
III:15: Shepseskaf, 4 years
III,16: Thampththis (Djedefptah) 2 years
III,17: Userkaf, 7 years
III,18: Sahure, 12 years
III,19: Neferirkare
III,20: Shepseskare, 7 years
III,21: Neferefre, ? years
III,22: Niuserre, 10 + x years, possbly 11
III,23: Menkauhor, 8 years
III,24: Djed (probably Djedkare), 28 years
III,25: Unas, 30 years

Abydos Kings list;..................................Turin Canon list.....................Manetho......Other names

1st Dynasty;
Meni (Established One)...........................Menes(Narmer)...... ...............Menes..........Hor-Aha
Teti.............................................. ..........Iteti(Aha).............................. Athothis
Iti (The Sovereign)...................................Iti(D jer).................................Kenkenes
Ita (The Sovereign Vulture).......................Itiui(Djet)........ ......................Wenefes.......Wadj
Djaty (Two Estates)................................Semti(Den) ............................Usafais
Mer-ba-pen\............................................Me rbiapen(Anedjib)................Miebis.........Ane ndjib
Semsem (Priest of Priests, Ptah Priest)...Semsem(Semerkhet).............Semempses
Qebh (Hawk-headed god of the south).......Kebehu(Qa'a).......................////////////...

2nd Dynasty;
Mdw-ti-umer...........................................Baw-Netjer(Hotepsekhemwi)....Boethos
Ka-kau (Soul of Bulls).............................Kakaw(Reneb)... .....................Kaiechos
Khnum-netjer-n (Sacred Ram)..................Banetjer(Ninetjer).......... ..........Binothris.....Nynetjer
Uadj-nes............................................... .unknown name.......................Thias......Weneg,Wadjne s
Sen-di, or Sen-Dji (Feared One)...............Sened.......................... .........Sethenes..Seth-Peribsen?
///////////////////////////////.............................Aaka(Neferkare?)..... ................Chaires
///////////////////////////////.............................Neferkasokar......... ..................Nefercheres
///////////////////////////////.............................erased?.............. ....................Sesochris
/////////////////////////////...............................Bebti(Khasekhemwi). ...............Cheneris
Dja-dja-tepy (The head Chief)..................//////////////////............................Necherophes

3rd Dynasty;
Nebka (Lord of the Souls).......................Nebka................ .....................Necherofes...Sanakhte
Djeser-za (Sacred Protection).................Djoser-it(Netjerikhet).................Tosorthios
Teti.............................................. ........Djoser-ti(Sekhemkhet)...............Tyreis..........Djose r-Teti
/////////////////////////////..............................erased?(Khaba?)..... ..................Mesochris....Khaba?
Z-Djes (I am my own man)...................../////////////////////...........................Suphis..(Huni?)
/////////////////////////////..............................////////////////////............................Toserfasis
///////////////////////////................................/////////////////////...........................Aches
///////////////////////////////............................Huni.................. ........................Sephouris
Nefer-ka-re (Good Soul of Re)................./////////////////////...........................Kerferes

4th Dynasty;
Snefru............................................ .....Snofru....................................... .Soris
Khufu............................................. .....Kheops......................................S uphis......Cheops
Djedef-re.............................................Dje defre......................................///////........(Ratoises?)
Khaf-re................................................ Khefren......................................Suphi s......Rekhaf
//////////////////////////////............................Bakare................ .......................Bicheris
Men-kau-re..........................................Mykeri nos..................................Mencheres
//////////////////////..................................../////////////////////............................Ratoises
Shepseskaf........................................ .Shepseskaf................................Seberch eres
//////////////////////....................................Thampththis... ............................Tamphtis

5th Dynasty
Userkaf........................................... ....Userkaf......................................U sercheres
Sahure............................................ ....Sahure.......................................S ephres
Kakai (Neferirkare)...............................Neferi rkare..................................Neferchres. ..Userkhau
/////////////////////////.................................Shepseskare...... ........................Cheres
Neferefre......................................... ....Neferefre..................................... Rathures......Raneferef
Niuserre.......................................... ....Niuserre.....................................S iseres
Menkauhor (Kaiu)................................Menkauhor... ...............................Mencheres
Djedkare (Isesi)...................................Djed.... .......................................Tencheres
Unas.............................................. ....Unas.......................................... Onnos..........Wenis

The above list was made by Paulo Riven and is subject to accuracy and/or corrections.

Manetho's list;

1st Dynasty........2nd Dynasty.....3rd Dynasty........4th Dynasty......5th Dynasty.............

Menes..............Boethos.............Necherofes. ........Soris................Usercheres...........
Athothis...........Kaiechos............Tosorthios. ..........Suphis.............Sephres.............. ..
Kenkenes.........Binothris............Tyreis...... ...........Suphis..............Nepherchres........ .
Wenefes...........Thias.................Mesochris. ..........Mencheres........Sisires................ .
Usafais.............Sethenes...........Suphis..... ...........Ratoises...........Cheres.............. ..
Miebis..............Chaires..............Toserfasi s...........Bicheris.............Rathures
Semempses.....Nefercheres........Aches............ ....Sebercheres.......Mencheres
.......................Sesochris...........Sephour is...........Tamphtis............Tencheres
.......................Cheneris.............Kerfer es.......................................Onnos
.......................Necherophes................ ............................................


1st Dynasty..........c.3100-2890 BCE

Menes (Hor-Aha)
Djer
Wadj (Djet)
Den
Anendjib
Semerkhet
Qa'a

2nd Dynasty..........c.2890-2686 BCE

Hotepsekhemwy
Raneb
Nynetjer
Seth-Peribsen
Khasekhemwy

3rd Dynasty..........c.2686-2613 BCE

Sanakhte (Nebka) (c.2688-2668)
Djoser (c.2668-2649)
Sekhemkhet (Djoser Teti) (c.2649-2641)
Khaba (c.2641-2637)
Huni (c.2637-2613)

4th Dynasty..........c.2613-2494 BCE

Snofru (c.2613-2589)
Khufu (Cheops) (c.2585-2566)
Djedefre (c.2566-2558)
Khafre (Rekhaf) (c.2558-2532)
Menkaure (Mykerinos) (c.2532-2514)
Shepseskaf (c.2514-2494)

5th Dynasty..........c.2494-2345 BCE

Userkaf (c.2494-2487)
Sahure (c.2487-2475)
Neferirkare Userkhau (c.2475-2455)
Shepseskare (c.2455-2448)
Raneferef (c.2448-2445)
Niuserre (c.2445-2421)
Menkauhor (c.2421-2413)
Djedkare (c.2413-2381)
Unas (Wenis) (c.2381-2345)

Turin Canon = 254(Menes+10 prior) + 25 pre-dynastic missing(Turin Sec.I:1-25) = 279 Kings
279/3 = 93.gen.x 100.yrs = 9,300.yrs
9,300 + 526 = 9,826.bC.

Herodotus: 11,340.yrs = 341.kings based on 3 generations = 100.yrs(33.33)
341/3 = 113.67 gen.X 100.yrs = 11,367.yrs
11,367 + 526.= 11,893.bC.

Psammetic III = 526.bC.
Amassis = 570.bC.

Menes = 244 kings = 81.33 gen. x 100 = 8,133.yrs
8,133 + 526 = 8,659.bC.

Modern record.
3200(Menes) - 526 = 2,674.yrs/244 = 10.96.yrs per king

Menes was originaly dated to 3400.bc based on the palermo stone with
an expected future drop of 100 years.*

Herodotus-341 X 10.96 = 3,737.36 + 526 = 4263.36.bC.
Turin Canon-279 x 10.96 = 3,057.84 + 526 = 3,583.84.bC.

Egyptian Calendar = 4241.bC*

2.79 error factor for Herodotus.(11,893/4263.36)

Plato Atlantean era Greece founding = 9,000.yrs./2.79 = 3225.81.yrs
Plato Egypt founding = 8,000.yrs./2.79 = 2867.38.yrs

3225.81 + 570(Amassis) = 3795.81.bC...Athen's Greece founded (Athena)
2867.38 + 570 = 3437.38.bC...Sais,Lower Egypt founded (Neith)

Atlantean War (post greece and egypt's founding) = 3250.bC
Turin Canon - 10 missing kings prior to Menes = 3200 - 3300.bC.
Narmer Palette - 10 Fallen Kings,Double Falcon era(Twins) - 3250.bC
Egyptian Tomb 100 map battle - 3250.bC
Gebel el Arak carved ivory knife battle - 3250.bC
Eye of Ra Destruction of Mankind = Hathor worship = Flood - 3250.bC.
Greek Cycladic Islands Stone(frying pan) map of Atlantis = ca.3000.bC
Sumerian/Gilgamesh flood legend = ca.3000.bC
Aeon and Protogonus,first mortals of Phoenicia = ca.3147.bC
Chaldean/Septuagint flood = 3183.bC

The catch 22 is that it is acceptable for Herodotus to say that 341 kings totalled 11,340 years based on 33.33 generations each, however , the answer is in the length of the kings reigns which is quite different than generations. A prime example of this is the Hebrew count for the 10 generations of Adam to Noah based on the ages that they had sons which was 1656 years to the flood. But the lifespans of the 10 patriarchs totalled 8225 years.

I am of opinion that this is precisely what Plato wrote in Solon's legend of Atlantis, when the Egyptian Priest stated 9000 yrs, they were referring to generations rather than actual length of rulership as our records of Egypt reveal so far as is known intelligable.
Compare 279 Kings @ 33.33 generations = 9,299.07 years or 244 kings(Menes) = 8,133. years, which clearly reflects the Egyptian Priest (Uadjahor Resne) stating that Egypt was founded 8000 years prior in Plato's(360.bC) preservation of Solon's(564.bC) Atlantis legend from Sais,Egypt in the time when Pharaoh Amassis was seated.

*-Ancient Records of Egypt,James Henry Breasted.Ph.D,Chicago,1906.aD.

BABYLON;

Apollodorus' kings list of Berossus.

1-Alorus of Babylon 10 sari
2-Alaparus-3 sari
3-Amelon of Pantibiblon-13 sari (Amillarus)
4-Ammenon the Chaldean-12 sari
5-Megalarus of Pantibiblon 18 sari
6-Daonus,shepherd from Pantibiblon-10 sari (Daos)
7-Euedorachus from Pantibiblon 18 sari
8-Amempsinus,a Chaldean from Laranche 10 sari
9-Otiartes (Ardates) 8 sari
10-Xisuthrus-18 sari (Sisithrus)
-------Flood-------------

total 120 sari

10 kings = 120 sari = 432,000.yrs
43,200 yrs per king
120 saroi = 432,000 (36,000 x 12)
3600 x 10 = 36,000
1 sarus = 3,600.yrs (600 x 6)
1 neros = 600.yrs (60 x 10)
1 sossus = 60.yrs (6 x 10)

Mathematicaly,the Babylonian base system of 1,6,10 and 60 is acceptable for the saroi table above as simple tools for counting.
For the Antedeluvian kings of Babylon,the term 120 sari becomes nothing more than a religious myth based on the concept of 2 hands totalling 120 saroi.
(10 fingers x 6 x 2 hands) This was due to the fascination with 6 and 12 that derived from our body parts,(2 arms,2 legs,1 head, 1 body) or (2 eyes,2 ears,1 mouth,1 nose) and the spaces of 3 on the inside of each finger and 2 for the thumbs.

It would be like saying that each finger was 12 saroi(43200yrs) for 1 king totaling 60 saroi per hand(216,000yrs) for the divine 120 saroi.(432,000yrs)
Now Gods may rule 432,000 years in Babylon or 4,320,000,000 years for 1 day of Brahma in India,but humans cannot in mortal form rule 43,200yrs.
We can adapt the indian concept for Babylon that 1 day would equal 1 God's year totaling 1183.56 human years for 120 saroi of 432,000yrs which would equal 9.86 years per sari. The oldest king being 18 sari would have been 177.48 years,so we can see this still seems incorrect. If we take our 9.86 years and divide it by our Herodotus factor of 2.79 yrs, we get 3.5 yrs per sari which gives 63 years rule for the oldest king of 18 sari.

In reality,the humor is that in respect of the kings,the sari is actualy only 1 year,totaling a modest 120 years for 10 kings rulership which we can compare to the modern average of 10.96 years for our Egyptian kings lists. The rest is just divine fantasy for the basal 6.
As compared to the chart below and a 2.79 divisable error factor for Herodotus' account of Egyptian kings, we can visualize that 1 sari is actualy only 1 year for the 10 antedeluvian kings of Babylon.

10 x 10.96 = 109.6 yrs
10/3 gen.= 3.33 x 100 = 333 yrs
333/2.79 = 119.35 yrs

But let us say that since each king sits on 1 of our fingers of 3 spaces to reveal the mystic secret of Babylon,that 3 should be our base of memory for transforming the antedeluvian kings. This would then be 30,9,39,36,54,30,54,30,24 and 54 for Xisuthrus totaling 360 years or a respectable 36 years per king which would also compare to the common statement of 3 generations is equal to 100 years by Herodotus,Solon or Plato to name a few great thinkers.

If we add the flood date of 3250.bC to 360 = 3610.bC for the first king Alorus of Babylon.

Alexander Polyhistor stated that there were some 86 kings after Xisuthrus to the Medes invasion of Babylon. 86 x 30 = 2580 + 620 = 3200.bC.
622-608 Cyaxares the mede takes Nineveh.(ca.620.bC).
86/3 = 28.67 gen.x 100 = 2867 + 620 = 3487.bC.


PHOENICIA;

A 30 year generation comparison for the Phoenician myth from Cadmus by Paulo Riven.
As being told by Eusebius of Caesarea.

Wind Colpias and wife Baau(Night)....................................... 3177.bC
Aeon and Protogonus.(Aeon finds food from trees).................3147..first mortals
Genos and Genea............................................. ..................3117..Phoenicia inhabited
Sun worshipped as Beelsamen(lord of Heaven)......................3087..Zeus in Greek
Light,Fire and Flame.(children of Aeon/Protogonus)...............3057.. fire by rubbing wooden sticks
Cassius,Libanus,Antilibanus,Brathy(Giants)........ ..................3027..mountains named by dwelling
Memrumus,Hypsuranius,Ousous....................... ..................2997..
Hypsuranius settles Tyre.............................................. .......2967..Tyre settled with reed huts
Ousous first to sail,consecrates 2 pillars of fire and wind........2937..animal skin clothes
Agreus and Halieus.(race of Hypsuranius).............................2907..hun tsmen and fishermen
Chrysor(Priest,Hephaestus,Zeus Meilichios)first to voyage.....2877..metallurgy,iron
Technites(Artificer),Geinos Autochthon(self born of earth).......2847..straw and clay bricks,roofs
Agros,Agrueros(Agrotes).greatest God for Byblos..................2817..Byblos settled
Aletae and Titans............................................ ....................2787..husbandmen and huntsmen
Amynos and Magus............................................. ...............2757..villages and sheepfolds
Misor(straight) and Suduc(just)....................................... .....2727..invented the use of salt
Taautus.(Thoth,Thoyth,Hermes),son of Misor,alphabet...........2697..later deified as God Tauthus.
Dioscuri,Cabeiri,Corybantes,Samothraces(of Suduc),............2667..first ships built
Elioun(most high) and Beruth(f),dwell near Byblos.................2637..herbs,healing and charms
Epigeius(Autochthon,Uranus) and Ge(Earth,f).......................2607..star named Uranus
Elus(Kronos),Baetylus,Dagon(Siton)and Atlas.......................2577..Kronos and Atlas born
Hermes Trismegistus..(secretary to Kronos).........................2547..
Persephone(f)and Athena(f).daughters of Kronos...................2517..Athena born
War of Uranus by Kronos.(advisor Hermes Trismegistus).......2487..First civil war
Demarus,(son of Uranus' concubine who married Dagon)........2457..
Kronos builds wall around Byblos as the First City................2427..Byblos becomes first City
Kronos buries brother Atlas in deep pit.................................2397..advisor Hermes Trismegistus
Dioscuri build rafts and ships,land near Mt.Cassius...............2367..first Temple near Mt.Cassius
Eloim and Kronii.(Allies of Kronus).......................................2337 ..
Sadidus and sister slain by father Kronos.............................2307..
Astarte,Rhea(Ehea) and Dione sent by Uranus vs Kronos......2277..retained as wives by Kronos.
Eimarmene,Hora and Allies sent by Uranus vs Kronos...........2247..retained by Kronos.
Baetylia,(living stones created by Uranus)............................2217..
7 Daughters called Titanides or Artemides............................2187..born to Kronos and Astarte
7 Sons born,youngest deified........................................... ...2157..born to Kronos and Rhea
Dione(f)is deified........................................... ......................2127..
Desire and Love(sons of Astarte).........................................2 097..
Dagon called Zeus Arotrios.......................................... .......2067..discovery of corn and plough
Asclepius..(born to Suduc and Titanide)...............................2037..
Zeus Belus,KronosII,Apollo..(born in Perae to Kronos)..........2007..Zeus Belus and Apollo born
Nereus..(son of Zeus Belus)............................................ ...1977..
Pontus(son of Nereus) and Typhon.....................................1947..
Sidon(f)and Poseidon..(children of Pontus)..........................1917..Sidon founded
Melcathrus.(Hercules),son of Demarus...............................1887..Hercul es
Uranus and Demarus wage war on Pontus..........................1857..war in mediterranean sea
32nd year of Kronos reign,he slays father Uranus................1827..inland near fountains and rivers
Astarte,Zeus Demarus and Adodus(king of Gods)................1797..rule Phoenicia by Kronos
Astarte sets bull head on her head as royalty(Amphitrite).....1767..sets star on holy island of Tyre
Kronos gives Attica to his daughter Athena.........................1737..Attica founded
Kronos sacrifices his son as a burnt offering to Uranus.........1707..circumcises himself and allies
Muth,(Thanatos or Pluto),dies and is deified........................1677..son of Kronos and Rhea
City of Byblos given to Dione by Kronos..............................1647..Dione called goddess Baaltis
City of Berytus given to Poseidon,Cabeiri,Agrotae,Halieis..1617..consecrati on of Pontus at Berytus
God Tauthus(Thoth,Hermes),given Egypt by Kronos............1587..gods preserved and organized
Ledud,only son of Kronos and nymph of country Anobret.....1557..sacrificed on Altar
Kronos deified as star Saturn............................................ 1527..
Thabion (first Heirophant of Phoenicia) alters myths............1497..mysteries,prophets,foreigne rs
Eisirius and Chna(Phoenix)..................................... ..........1467..
Cadmus............................................ ..............................1437.bC.

Records preserved by Suduc's 7 sons the Cabeiri and 8th brother Asclepius by order of Tauthus
Gods Sourmoubelos and Thuro(Eusarthis).rescue theology of Tauthus(Thoth)

Sanchuniathon of Berytus...(said to have lived prior to the Trojan war)
Hierombalus,priest of God Ieuo (Jeuo/Yeuo),gives records to Sanchuniathon
Sanchuniathon's works dedicated to King Abibalus of Berytus
Abibalus,father of Hiram,975-1000
Abibalus(Jabin)king of Asor,1111-1116
Semiramis, Queen of Assyria (750-800.bC)?
Sanchuniathon was inspired to seek the records of Thoth(Taautus)
Secret writings of Ammoneans

Translated into Greek by Philo of Byblos in 9 Books.
Philo Biblius....Paradoxical History...3 books
Philo Byblius....History of the Jews

Porphyry the Philosopher,Against The Christians,Book IV,verifies Sanchuniathon's history
Eusibius of Caesarea; Preparatio Evangelica,(Preparation for the Gospel) Book 1
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BIBLICAL;

Name......Father age..Life Age

Adam.........130^......930*
Seth...........105.......912
Enos............90.......905
Cainan.........70.......910
Malaleel.......65.......895
Jared..........162.......962
Henoch........65.......365
Mathusala...187......969
Lamech......182.......777
Noah..........500.......600

Total ......1,656....8,225 hebrew years

*Cain and Abel,the first sons of Adam are missing.?

_________________________2_________3_______4______ __5_________6__________8
1)adam 0..130^..235"..930*..(112)..1042.(98)..1140.(95)..1235.(55).129 0.(132).1422.(+234).1656.
2)seth...........0...105^...195"...800'..........912*
3)enos..................0.....90^...160"..........807'.......905*
4)cainan........................0.....70^......... .135".......815'.......910*
5)malaleel..............................0......... ...65^.......227".......840'.......895*
6)Jared........................................... .......0........162^.......227".......830'.........962*
7)henoch.......................................... ...................0.........65^.......252"..365*...
8)mathusala....................................... ..............................0........187^..300'. ..369"...(735+)...969*
9)lamech.......................................... .............................................0.... ........182^....682"....777*
10)noah........................................... .................................................. .............0.....500^....600*
.................................................. .................................................. ...................Sem..0.....100*
^ age became a Father
" age became a Grandfather
' age when father died
* end of life
(...) yrs son lived on
+ age of mathasula when grandfather Jared died (his father henoch died young)
-mathusala lived 5 years longer than his son lamech

Hebrew: 1,656 years to the flood
Samaritan: 1,307 years to the flood
Chaldean: 2,242 years to the flood

Masoteric text places the flood in b.C.2350 (Klaproth),the Samaritan in 2903,the Septuagint in 3134.

Hebrew - 1656 + 2350 = 4006.bC for Creation
Samaritan - 1307 + 2903 = 4210
Chaldean - 2242 + 3134 = 5376

(I forget who the source of this quote is at present-Riven.)
"From Adam to the flood: 2242 years; from the flood to the building of the tower, 525 years; from the building of the tower until Abraham 425; from Abraham until the Exodus of the sons of Israel from Egypt, 430; from the Exodus to the building of the Temple of Solomon 757 years; from the building of the temple to the captivity of Israel 425. Altogether 4880 years.[4] From the captivity to king Alexander 318; from Alexander to Christ our God 303. Altogether 5500 years.[5] And from Christ to Constantine the Great 318; from Constantine to Michael, son of Theophilos, 555. The whole span altogether 6375 years.[6]"

5425 adam
3183 flood
2658 babel
2233 abraham
1803 exodus
1046 temple
621 is.captive
303 - alexander
0-Jesus Christ

adam......5487 (chaldean)
flood.....3245
babel.....2720
abraham...2295
abraham...2220 (75 yrs old)
exodus....1790
temple....1033
captivity..608
alexander..330 (278 cap-alex)
Jesus Christ...27.bC.
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Atlantis________Egypt*______Babylon___(revised by Riven)__Bible

Atlas__________3610.bC____Alorus_______30______Ada m.......43^...116*
Gadeiros________***________Alaparus______9______Se th.........35....114
Ampheres______3538.bC____Amelon______39______Enos. .......30....113
Evaemon._______***________Ammenon____36______Caina n......23....113
Mneseus_______3466.bC____Megalarus____54______Mala leel...21....111
Autochthon______***________Daonus______30______Jar ed........54....120
Elasippus______3394.bC____Euedorachus__54______Hen och.....21......45
Mestor__________***________Amempsinus_30______Math usala..62....121
Azaes_________3322.bC____Otiartes______24______Lam ech......60.....97
Diaprepes_______***________Xisuthrus_____54______N oah........100....120
------------------------------------------------------------------360 yrs------------------..449---1070

---------HATHOR BULL WORSHIP------FLOOD 3250.bC.------------
*10 missing Egyptian kings prior to Pharaoh Menes (Turin Canon/Narmer Palette/Palermo Stone)
Age of Taurus = 2000-4000.bC.
341 Egyptian kings/3 = 113.67.gen. x 100 = 11,367 + 526 = 11893./2.79 = 4262.72.bC
4263.bc - 3250 = maximum of 1013 years available for Antedeluvian kings.(generations)
1013/2.79 = 363./10 kings = 36. years allowable for maximum length of rule.

Paulo Riven. 8491.aJA.(2009.aD.Mn.)
AeJor Mn (PJTCM)
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EUSEBIUS AND MANETHO

24,900 lunar / 2206 solar = 11.29 factor of conversion from Lunar to Solar

GODS; Ptah(Hephaestus) to Bidis-13,900 lunar years(30 day months) - /11.29 = 1231.2 solar years

DEMI-GODS;..........................1,255 / 11.29 = 111.16
OTHER KINGS;......................1,817 / 11.29 = 160.94
30 MEMPHIS KINGS;.............1,790 / 11.29 = 158.55
10 THINIS KINGS;.....................350 / 11.29 = 31
SHADES AND DEMI GODS;...5,813 / 11.29 = 514.9

TOTAL;.................11,025 / 11.29 = 976.55 solar
GODS;.................13,900 / 11.29 = 1231.2

TOTAL ....24,925 / 11.29 = 2207.75 SOLAR YEARS

PTAH....HEPHAESTUS
AMON....SOL (SUN)
THOTH...AGATHODAEMON (HERMES)
GEB.....CRONUS
OSIRIS..ZEUS DIONYSIOS
SET.....TYPHON
HORUS...APOLLO
KINGS
BIDIS
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ATLANTEAN CHRONOLOGIES BY AEJOR MN (PAULO RIVEN)

AETERNAL FATHER CREATOR AEJON..6482.bc
2ND GARDEN OF CREATION..................6435....Tansania,Avila(A frica)
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EGYPTIAN GODS..1231.2.yrs..5495.bC(Hephaestus)..(2242 CHALDEAN YEARS TO FLOOD)
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+87.KINGS.(954yrs)..DEMI-GODS....4264...-Atlantean Delta Empire
.................................................. ....4241...-Egyptian Calendar
.................................................. ....3795....Athen's Greece founded
.................................................. ....3437...-Sais founded,Delta
.........................................Atlantean war begins.........................
254.KINGS......................................331 0...-Atlantean Libyan Mareia,Delta,L.E.3rd nome

........Atlantean war ends,Atlantis island sinks,mediterranean cultures perish.................
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*********DELUGE FLOOD................3253.bC....DELUGE FLOOD************
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Pharaoh Menes.(244th)...................3200...-Egyptian Dynasty I,Upper Egypt
Psammetic III...................................526.bC.
.................................................. ........0....Jesus The Son of God
.........................................Feb.15th, 2009.aD.(8491.aJA)..today's date.
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Hey all.

Check this out:

Kinda weird... Watch for the reptilians with wings (Draconian?)

And, near the end it just openly says that Aliens helped/inspired the Hebrews to create a world Government.

Hmmm.

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The Legend of Atlantis was told by the Egyptian Priest to Solon who passed on a copy to his friend and relative Dropides.

Dropides is the Great-Grandfather to Critias II and the Father of Critias I. We don't know in the story what the name of Critias II's father was who was the son of Critias I.

Plato must have been working from that copy from Dropides which Critias II had in his possession as he himself stated.

Also,their must have been a scribe recording the conversation of the contest at the theatre for Plato to be able to write everything that was said during that time around 420.bC This would appear to mean that Plato had 2 documents to work from perhaps while he was in the service of Dionysios The Tyrant in Syracuse around 360.bC when he wrote Timaeus and Critias.

Egyptian Priest > Solon(570.bC) > Dropides(Great Grandfather) > Critias I(Grandfather-90yrs old) > Critias II(10 years old) > Plato.(360.bC)

Plato wrote the legend of Atlantis in two dialogues.

PART I; - Timaeus
PART II; - Critias

In the Timaeus,Critias II is reciting from memory what his Grandfather,Critias I told him and Amynander at the Apaturia festival and what the Egyptian priest of Sais told Solon.

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On one occasion, wishing to draw them on to speak of antiquity, he began to tell about the most ancient things in our part of the world-about Phoroneus, who is called "the first man," and about Niobe; and after the Deluge, of the survival of Deucalion and Pyrrha; and he traced the genealogy of their descendants, and reckoning up the dates, tried to compute how many years ago the events of which he was speaking happened. Thereupon one of the priests, who was of a very great age, said: O Solon, Solon, you Hellenes are never anything but children, and there is not an old man among you.
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And whatever happened either in your country or in ours, or in any other region of which we are informed-if there were any actions noble or great or in any other way remarkable, they have all been written down by us of old, and are preserved in our temples.
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As for those genealogies of yours which you just now recounted to us, Solon, they are no better than the tales of children. In the first place you remember a single deluge only, but there were many previous ones;
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For there was a time, Solon, before the great deluge of all, when the city "WHICH NOW" is Athens was first in war
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You are welcome to hear about them, Solon, said the priest, both for your own sake and for that of your city, and above all, for the sake of the goddess who is the common patron and parent and educator of both our cities. She founded your city a thousand years before ours, receiving from the Earth and Hephaestus the seed of your race, and afterwards she founded ours, of which the constitution is recorded in our sacred registers to be eight thousand years old. As touching your citizens of nine thousand years ago, I will briefly inform you of their laws and of their most famous action; the exact particulars of the whole we will hereafter go through at our leisure in the sacred registers themselves.

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If you compare these very laws with ours you will find that many of ours are the counterpart of yours as they were in the olden time. In the first place, there is the caste of priests, which is separated from all the others; next, there are the artificers, who ply their several crafts by themselves and do not intermix; and also there is the class of shepherds and of hunters, as well as that of husbandmen; and you will observe, too, that the warriors in Egypt are distinct from all the other classes, and are commanded by the law to devote themselves solely to military pursuits; moreover, the weapons which they carry are shields and spears, a style of equipment which the goddess taught of Asiatics first to us, as in your part of the world first to you

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For these histories tell of a mighty power which unprovoked made an expedition against the whole of Europe and Asia, and to which your city put an end.
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This vast power, gathered into one, endeavoured to subdue at a blow our country and yours and the whole of the region within the straits;and then, Solon, your country shone forth, in the excellence of her virtue and strength, among all mankind. She was pre-eminent in courage and military skill, and was the leader of the Hellenes. And when the rest fell off from her, being compelled to stand alone, after having undergone the very extremity of danger, she defeated and triumphed over the invaders, and preserved from slavery those who were not yet subjugated, and generously liberated all the rest of us who dwell within the pillars. But afterwards there occurred violent earthquakes and floods; and in a single day and night of misfortune all your warlike men in a body sank into the earth, and the island of Atlantis in like manner disappeared in the depths of the sea. For which reason the sea in those parts is impassable and impenetrable, because there is a shoal of mud in the way; and this was caused by the subsidence of the island.
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I have told you briefly, Socrates, what the aged Critias heard from Solon and related to us.
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And now, Socrates, to make an end my preface, I am ready to tell you the whole tale. I will give you not only the general heads, but the particulars, as they were told to me. The city and citizens, which you yesterday described to us in fiction, we will now transfer to the world of reality. It shall be the ancient city of Athens, and we will suppose that the citizens whom you imagined, were our veritable ancestors, of whom the priest spoke; they will perfectly harmonise, and there will be no inconsistency in saying that the citizens of your republic are these ancient Athenians.

-Solon,the wisest man in greece tells the egyptian priest the greek histories from Phoroneus(ca1800.bC.)and the only flood he knows as Deukalion(ca1529.bC) and we learn he is calculating the years by generations of the ancestors.

-priest ridicules Solon over the generational count as tales of children

-Atlantean war at a time before the flood of Deukalion and after the founding of Attica and Sais. The city was not called Athens at the time of the Atlantean war.("when the city which is NOW Athens")

-9000 years prior to Solon is the timespan, 1000 years after Sais is founded or 8000 years prior to Solon's visit. Somewhere near this time was the Atlantean war ("as touching your citizens of 9000 years ago...and of their most famous action")

- all records were preserved in the temples at the sacred registers which Solon and the priest could view THE EXACT particulars. This would mean that the Egyptian priest memorized the number of 8000 years for Sais as the span of generations of their ancestors.

- The priest also said that ASIA was being attacked also and he also called themselves Asiatics.

- The weaponry was shields and spears

- The ancient greeks defeated the Atlanteans and ended the war.

- Afterwards the great disaster occured which not only sunk Atlantis island outside of the straites but also destroyed the greeks at home and blocked the straites of gibraltar. Such was the huge extent of the deluge that would have been greater than Deukalion's "mythical biblical" flood.

- Critias intends to transfer the ancient greeks into the city of Athens.


PART II. The Critias

http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/critias.html
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Some people seem uncertain to the size of Atlantis or how big and where Cleito's Hill was or where the horsetrack is.

Some researchers like to claim that all measurements should be 1/10th which would mean a stadia was only 60.5 feet and a stadium some 60 ft by 30 ft which would also make poseidon's temple smaller than the ones standing today.

I'll stick to the dialogue for these results.
Here are some notes from the Critias dialogue followed by measurments according to the script.

Hope this helps your studies fellow Atlanteans.

was an island greater in extent than Libya and Asia,
(this comment can also be viewed as greater in wealth,power and integrity than libya and asia combined)

Looking towards the sea, but in the centre of the whole island, there was a plain

Near the plain again, and also in the centre of the island at a distance of about fifty stadia, there was a mountain not very high on any side.

breaking the ground, inclosed the hill in which she dwelt all round, making alternate zones of sea and land larger and smaller, encircling one another; there were two of land and three of water (Cleito's hill was on the central island where the Temple of Poseidon also was)

dividing the island of Atlantis into ten portions

To his (Atlas) twin brother,(Gadeiros) who was born after him, and obtained as his lot the extremity of the island towards the Pillars of Heracles, facing the country which is now called the region of Gades

rulers of divers islands in the open sea; (Atlantis was the largest island)

beginning from the sea they bored a canal of three hundred feet in width and one hundred feet in depth and fifty stadia in length, which they carried through to the outermost zone

the largest of the zones into which a passage was cut from the sea was three stadia in breadth, and the zone of land which came next of equal breadth; but the next two zones, the one of water, the other of land, were two stadia, and the one which surrounded the central island was a stadium only in width. The island in which the palace was situated had a diameter of five stadia. All this including the zones and the bridge, which was the sixth part of a stadium in width, they surrounded by a stone wall on every side, placing towers and gates on the bridges where the sea passed in.

The palaces in the interior of the citadel were constructed on this wise:-in the centre was a holy temple dedicated to Cleito and Poseidon

Here was Poseidon's own temple which was a stadium in length, and half a stadium in width, and of a proportionate height

Leaving the palace and passing out across the three you came to a wall which began at the sea and went all round: this was everywhere distant fifty stadia from the largest zone or harbour, and enclosed the whole, the ends meeting at the mouth of the channel which led to the sea

country immediately about and surrounding the city was a level plain, itself surrounded by mountains which descended towards the sea; it was smooth and even, and of an oblong shape, extending in one direction three thousand stadia, but across the centre inland it was two thousand stadia. This part of the island looked towards the south, and was sheltered from the north. The surrounding mountains were celebrated for their number and size and beauty, far beyond any which still exist, having in them also many wealthy villages of country folk, and rivers, and lakes, and meadows supplying food enough for every animal, wild or tame, and much wood of various sorts, abundant for each and every kind of work.

It(surrounding ditch) was excavated to the depth of a hundred, feet, and its breadth was a stadium everywhere; it was carried round the whole of the plain, and was ten thousand stadia in length. It received the streams which came down from the mountains, and winding round the plain and meeting at the city, was there let off into the sea. Further inland, likewise, straight canals of a hundred feet in width were cut from it through the plain, and again let off into the ditch leading to the sea: these canals were at intervals of a hundred stadia, and by them they brought down the wood from the mountains to the city, and conveyed the fruits of the earth in ships, cutting transverse passages from one canal into another, and to the city.

size of a lot was a square of ten stadia each way, and the total number of all the lots was sixty thousand.

And of the inhabitants of the mountains and of the rest of the country there was also a vast multitude, which was distributed among the lots and had leaders assigned to them according to their districts and villages. The leader was required to furnish for the war the sixth portion of a war-chariot, so as to make up a total of ten thousand chariots; also two horses and riders for them, and a pair of chariot-horses without a seat, accompanied by a horseman who could fight on foot carrying a small shield, and having a charioteer who stood behind the man-at-arms to guide the two horses; also, he was bound to furnish two heavy armed soldiers, two slingers, three stone-shooters and three javelin-men, who were light-armed, and four sailors to make up the complement of twelve hundred ships. Such was the military order of the royal city-the order of the other nine governments varied, and it would be wearisome to recount their several differences.

1 stadia = 605 feet
2 stadia = 1210 feet
3 stadia = 1815 feet
stadium = 600 feet by 300 feet

zone = ring of land or water.

zone 1 = 3 stadia wide = 1815 feet = water (Harbour)
zone 2 = 3 stadia " = 1815 ft = land (racecourse for horses ran around entire ring,roughly 3 miles)
zone 3 = 2 stadia " = 1210 ft = water
zone 4 = 2 stadia " = 1210 ft = land
zone 5 = 1 stadium " = 600 ft = water(surrounds central island)
zone 6 = 5 stadia diameter = 3025 ft diameter (1512.50ft radius)

ringed zones
3630 + 2420 + 600 + 1512.50ft = 8162.50ft radius (outer ring 1 to middle of central island.)
8162.5 x 2 = 16325ft diameter = 3.092 mile diameter across ringed zones

diameter = line drawn through the center of a circle from one border to the opposite border.
radius = center of circle to outside border.

outer surrounding wall = 50 stadia distant from outer zone 1(1st ring of water = harbour)
30250ft + 16325 + 30250 = 76,825ft diameter across outer fortress wall = 14.55 miles diameter

poseidon's temple = 1 stadium long by 1/2 stadium wide (600ft.Lx300ft.w)

bridge = 1/6th of a stadium wide = 100 feet wide

50 stadia = 30250 feet = 5.7292 miles

canal = 50 stadia (30250ft) long, 300 feet wide by 100 feet deep from outer zone 1. (5.7292 miles to the sea and outer wall)

plain in center of the island on south-eastern side facing the pillars of Hercules - 3000 stadia long by 2000 stadia wide (1,815,000 ft by 1,210,000 ft)
plain = 343.75L x 229.17w miles = 78,777.19sq.miles (27,878,400sq feet to 1 square mile)
plain = 3000 x 2000 = 6,000,000 sq stadia = 1,815,000ft.L x 1,210,000ft.W = 2,196,150,000,000sq.ft (2.197 quatrillion sq.ft)
plain = 343.75 + 343.75 + 229.17 + 229.17 = 687.50 + 458.34 = 1145.84 miles around plain (same as surrounding ditch of 10,000 stadia)

surrounding ditch = 10,000 stadia in length by 1 stadium wide by 100 feet deep (6,050,000ft.L x 600ft.w x 100ft.d)
ditch = 6,050,000ft / 5280ft = 1145.83 miles long (same as plain)

inside of surrounding ditch on the plain were canals 100 feet wide at intervals of 100 stadia (60,500 ft or 11.46 miles) with transverse passages to each canal.

60,000 lots inside of plain

lots inside the plain - 1 lot = 10 stadia each way = 10 x 10 stadia = 100sq.stadia lots
lots = 6050ft x 6050ft = 36,602,500sq.ft per lot x 60,000 lots = 2,196,150,000,000 sq.ft (same as plain)
lots = 1.15 miles x 1.15 miles = 1.323sq miles x 60,000 lots = 79,380sq miles (same as plain)

343.75 / 1.15 = 298.1930435 lots length of plain 229.17 / 1.15 = 199.2783 lots width of plain. 298.1930435 x 199.2783 = 59,423.403 lots
(roughly same as 60,000 lots inside of plain considering rounded off numbers.)

Canals on plain; 343.75 / 11.46 = 30 canals (less roughly 3 canals to compensate for 100 foot widths to fit length of plain = roughly 27 canals.)
27 canals would be joined by 26 transverse canals

Temple of Poseidon in Paestum measures 60m x 25m.(2362.2in x 984.25in = 196.85ft x 82.021ft)
Temple of Poseidon on the island of Sounion is 31.12 X 13.47m. (1225.194in x 530.314in = 102.10ft x 44.193ft)

Temple of Poseidon Atlantis = 600ft x 300ft = 182.9m x 91.44m

The Great Pyramid of Khufu
Khufu Belongs to the Horizon
Original Height: 146.6 m (480.96 ft)
Current Height: 138.75 m (455.21 ft)
Length of Side: 230.37 (755.8 ft)
Angle: 51º 50’ 40”
Estimated Volume: 2,521,000 cu m

In the center of the whole island there was a plain;

This should give us a "minimum" view of an island 2 plains wide by 3 plains long or 1031.25 miles long(N/S) x 458.34 miles wide (E/W)

1 meter = 39.37 inches
international mile of 5,280 feet, 1,760 yards, or exactly 1,609.344 meters.
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PREDOMINATELY WE ARE ATLANTEANS FROM OUR HISTORICAL STUDIES.

We speak, read and write these evolved words today into English, from earlier Atlanteans.

Atlantean – Aterian – Azilian – Aetolian – Linear A – Latin – English
(linear B came from Linear A-The Phoenicians STOLE OUR 12,000 year old letters from Iberia ca 1200.bC)

THE EARTHLAND PEOPLE
You can run or curse, or alter our Histories, but you can't hide the great Truth of The Law of One.

ATLANTEANS AND AENGLIS-H.

Linear A Translations by Riven;

EARTH (Eart / Ert)

EA-Risen, in the air, above, so high

AA - Father and Mother

RA- King, Kingdom

TA- Earth, IS, IT, I AM.

HA- Here, in this place, also


SA - Son/Child/kin

JA- Father, God, Know

RA – King, Kingdom

[R]…God's Risen Kingdom of Earth…[R]

TA...LAN

EARTH...LAND

TA-(Tara/Terra)= Ancient name for EARTH

A = Risen or Origin

A TA LAN = Risen Earth Land

TA - TEN -EN = Ancient Egyptian Risen Earth Land

ATAL-ANTIC (Antique,Antiquity,Antigua,Antiquo > Ancient)

Agua/Aqua = Water (Gua = Throat)

ATALANTIC(Atlantic) > Risen Earth Land of Antiquity

ATALAS (Atlas) > Risen Earth Stone > Mountain

Based on Atlantean migration 10,840 bC (estimated 1,240 years of growth)
Countries Liberated after Great Battle and Atlantis sinking (2850-9600 bC)

Riven dates a more precise estimate of Nov 1st, 6482 bC 21:00hrs for the great flood and sinking of Atlantis. Based on the Eye of Ra myth, ecliptic alignment of planets, Mt.Vesuvius and Mt.Hekla eruptions, Bosphorous straite (Black Sea) flooding and All Saints Day of Destruction Nov 1 and the margin of error between Greek Lunar Cycles and Egyptian Sun Cycles. Although Atlantis sank at this time it was still controlled from the Lake Tritonis region no later than 1500 bC.

Ironically Nov 1,1755, an earthquake from African/European plate tectonic pressure, triggered a great Tsunami that wiped out Lisbon, Azores, Madeira, Canaries and NW Africa.

6482 bC for the fall of Atlantis and 3450 bC for the fall of the warriors (Greece, Phrygia, Anatolia, Phoenicia, Egypt) relating to the Gebel-el-Arak knife from 3500 bC and the Narmer Tablet of 3100 bC where the Atlanteans battled near the Gulfs of Atranto,Gabes, Messina Straite and the Alexandria Egypt Delta.

The Gebel-el-Arak Knife has the same Dragon Claw Orb Ship that can also be found on the Phaisteus Disk from Crete.

ATLANTES-of Libyan people
ATLANTICUS-of Mount Atlas
ATLANTIAS-female
ATLANTIADES-male

The word Atlantis broken up into syllables At-la-an-ti-is
Re: Basque Translation by Riven

"The main evergreen forest is born a joyous miracle at dawn the abundant monument increases to unite the future arrival and remain loyal to the secret of creation."


Don't forget, all you United Kingdom Umans are also real Atlanteans!!!
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If you're wondering why I call myself Seer and Royal Bloodline to Atlantis it is because of my bloodlines to Queen Leonor tele de Meneses,(1350 – April 27, 1386)wife of King Ferdinand I of Portugal.

I am also pscyhic, 3rd eye visions and earth readings as my pictures testify too. I was born on an island in the Azores once known in the times of Columbus as Jesus Christ Island on All Saints Day.

I was 42 years old when I thought about my Father's words telling me that we were related to Kings and Queens of Portugal. That was all I remembered and that was also how I got involved in this Atlantis research from googling Azores, my birthplace.

P.S. Menes was known as the first pharaoh of Egypt.

We are Men of Mn.

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These are photos that I discovered and took of the monolithic Atlantean Lion measuring some 3 football stadiums by 2 stadiums in size, in the Delta nile region of Egypt at Al Mansura next to Tahla.







This is a map of the mediterranean in antiquity that I made based on Herodotus' statement of the Nile once having flowed west and when the waters were lower. It clearly reveals to us two other prime locations for the pillars of hercules being placed at the messinia straite between Sicily and Italy and another straite between Corsica and Sardinia.
As you can see it becomes clear that neither of those pillars match Plato's description of having an immeasurable ocean beyond them which would make the mediterranean inside of the straites look like a harbour in comparison as do the pillars of Gibraltar and the Atlantic Ocean.

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These are photos of the image of a ship on the StoneHenge pillars taken by a lady that apparently revealed an image underneath the lichen on the stone.
I inverted the colors with microsoft paint for better clarity. You can save them and simply invert the colors back to their originals if you like.




This is my interpretation of the image, notice the Orb or Egg on the back of the Ship.


She didn't notice the image on the right side pillar that I pointed out to her that was also visible.

This is the Gebel el Arak knife carbon dated ca.3200-3500.bC of a battle in the Delta Nile. If you look close on the right side above the fallen men to the back of the Ship, you will also notice an Orb held in what appears to be a Claw. This is where I get my name for the Atlantean Ship which I call The DragonClaw Orbis Ship. They may be old Tarxien Ships from Malta also. This Ship is also visible on The Phaistos Disk (it takes a closer eye to see the orb)
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.111. Wisdom of The First Book of Atlanteans .111.

Written in Stone, King of The Double Falcons 3500.bC Libya, Delta Nile, Sinai, Levant.


...........A-T-L-A-N-T-I-S..........
TA-TENEN-birth of the primordial hill of creation, ATLANTIS.

This is the Greatest Message of World Peace for our modern world today.
This is the knowledge of The First Book, before your Second Book, The Holy Bible.
This is The Book of Atlantean TAT.

..............To understand the City of Atlantis .........
.....You have to understand the culture of Atlanteans .....

Lords and Lordesses

.111. I have Crumbled The Temple, Toppled The False Pillars and Split The Stone .111.
.111.There is no Justice for Law and no Judge to Defend The Blindfold .111.
.111. Know This for your “Free” Dominions of True Masonry .111.
.111.The Works of God our Father are upon me.111.
.111.To Know IS Immortal.111.
.111.King Paulo J. Tx. Mn. 8489.aJa / 2007 after Deception of Zero.111.
.111.ATLANTIS (Earth).111.

Q] Is the Atlantic Ocean a Myth?
A] No, it divides America from Europe and Africa.
Q] Why do they call it the Atlantic Ocean?
A] Because it was named from the Atlantean cultures.
Q] Why do they call it the Atlas Mountains in NW Africa?
A] Because it was named after the Atlantean cultures.
Q] What are Atlantean cultures?
A] Any groups of human beings who existed in or around the Atlantic Ocean, such as America, S. America, Arctic, Europe, Africa, Antarctica and any Atlantic Islands like Azores, Iceland, England, Thule, Madeira, Canary Islands, Jamaica, Bahamas, Bimini,
St. Tome, Cape Verde, Barbados, Antilles, etc, etc....
Q] Are Atlantean cultures a Myth?
A] No, because Archaeologists and Herodotus told us about these cultures who lived in Africa on her western coasts and around the Atlas Mountains and in Western Europe to the extremity of the Pillars of Hercules or Gibraltar Straits as recorded by us.
Q] Why do people dismiss Atlantean cultures in general?
A] Because they are not tutored in our World Histories and generally are fixated by the notion that Atlanteans come from a magical underwater city as portrayed in modern Fables, and are also refrained from wisdom by suppressions .
Q] Who are the Atlanteans?
A] The cultures who existed in and around the Atlantic Ocean and were predominant in settling Africa, Europe, S. America and America, both from the land bridge crossings of Iceland and The Bering Strait in China and Alaska and from crossing over on boats or early ship types.
Mostly, we know the Atlantean by different names in the course of our Archaeological studies, which most scholars name these cultures according to their pottery types, industries, or cultural styles and traits, while most names are not what those ancients would have called themselves such as The Bell Beaker Cultures of Europe or Cave people being called The Stone Age people.
Q] What are some of the names early Atlanteans were known by or still are known by, other than Atlantean?
A] I would say to compliment the rise of civilizations ca 50,000.bC, would be a good apex to research Atlantean cultures from, other than 100,000.bC Cro-Magnon, or 1 million b.C Neanderthals.
In Europe, some of these early Atlanteans were known as Aterian, Azilian, Aetolian, (who were writing and developed our Alphabet ca 12,000.bC) Celtoi, or Celts, Cimmerians, Basques and Navarros, who are a fading culture bordering France and Spain and are related to the Guanche cultures of the Canary Islands.
Some of their modern names are; Portuguese, English, Scandinavian, French (Gallic), Spanish,(Gaulic) Italian, Germans, Ukrainians, Belgians, Norwegians, Russians, Polish, Serbians, Latvian, Greeks, Cyclades or the early Vinca cultures around Romania, Bulgaria and Macedonia who were writing around 6000.bC.
In Africa we also find Azilian, Aterians, Berber, Moors, Tuaregs, Capsians or Capstans, Qadans, Atalantes, Atarantes, Gualata, Alata, Azaes, Troglodytes, Dogones, Garamantes, Maxyans, Lotophagi, or simply Libyans, Egyptians or Gerzeans, Natufians, Fayums and Aetiopians from Kush and Sudan or Arabians upon the Sinai. Mauretanians, as they were known in the 12th centuries.
In S. America we find Mayans, Aztec, Incans, Peruvians, Mexicans, and other jungle tribes.
In America we find Native Indians like Mohawk, Apache, Kennewick Man, Ojibuay, Cree, Chippewa, Mexicans, or the Canadian First Nations.
Afro-Americans, etc, etc.
In Asia we find Anatolians, Turkish, Black Sea Cultures, (Tartars) Georgians, Carians, Ionians, Lydians, Arabians, Persians, Sumerians, Akkadians, Indians, Assyrians, like the earlier palaeolithic Enyans who became the Phoenician cultures upon the Levant with Byblos, Tyre and Sidon, and Cypriot cultures of Cyprus and Rhodes.
Basically, as my translations of the 10 Atlantean Kings names suggest, the Atlanteans were predominant around the ENTIRE MEDITERRANEAN.
When people really and truly understand this, and understand that English and our Alphabet comes from Linear A and not Linear B, then they will also come to grasp with reality, that...

PREDOMINATELY WE ARE ATLANTEANS FROM OUR HISTORICAL STUDIES.

We speak, read and write these evolved words today into English, from earlier Atlanteans.
Atlantean – Aterian – Azilian – Aetolian – Linear A – Latin – English
(linear B came from Linear A)
THE EARTHLAND PEOPLE
You can run or curse, or alter our Histories, but you can't hide the great Truth of The Law of One.
ATLANTEANS AND AENGLIS-H.
Linear A Translations by Riven;
EARTH (Eart / Ert)
EA-Risen, in the air, above, so high
AA - Father and Mother
RA- King, Kingdom
TA- Earth, IS, IT, I AM.
HA- Here, in this place, also

SA - Son/Child/kin
JA- Father, God, Know
RA – King, Kingdom
[R]…God's Risen Kingdom of Earth…[R]
TA LAN
EARTH LAND
TA-(Tara/Terra) = Ancient name for EARTH
A = Risen or Origin
A TA LAN = Risen Earth Land
TA - TEN -EN = Ancient Egyptian Risen Earth Land
ATAL-ANTIC (Antique,Antiquity,Antigua,Antiquo > Ancient)
Agua/Aqua = Water (Gua = Throat)
ATALANTIC(Atlantic) > Risen Earth Land of Antiquity
ATALAS (Atlas) > Risen Earth Stone > Mountain

5000 year old Cyclades Islands Stone "frying pan" Map of Atlantis ca 2800.bC displays 7 concentric rings surrounded by 5 mountains.


Linear A Translation > Atlantis.

AA - Father, Mother,God,Goddess, Origen
(in this case singular primary A>Father > A-tlantis > Earth = Male)
TA - Earth
LA- There, in that place, land
AA - Father,Mother,God,Goddess,Origen
NA- Sacred Knowledge, pure, water, air,
TA-Earth
IA- and his, so high, adorned
SA-Son,,Child.

Father's Earth Land with Mother's Sacred Knowledge of Earth and His Son.

The meaning of the word Atlantis broken up into Linear A syllables and translated from 50,000 year old ancient Basque by Riven....
"The main evergreen forest is born a joyous miracle at dawn the abundant monument increases to unite the future arrival and remain loyal to the secret of creation."

.111.The Father, The Son, and The Holy Ghost.111.
The Trinity-.111.
From The Father > ATEN > ATENA
ATENA (Athena)
MAAT (Neit)
MAATAKARE (Asia)
MA (Universal)
MOTHER IS THE HOLY GHOST.
She is the Spirit who breathes life into us.
The Father creates our form, gives us life.

The Kingdom of His 10 Sons.

Mr 04 JASA Re-Creation After 6482.bC
Mr 14
Mr 24 Jesa The Pure/ Dec 10th, 3474.bC
Mr 34 Jesus Christ / Zero to our Calendar
Mr 44 Paulo J.Tx.Mn /born Nov.1st,1961/ Mr.44 Jan 2006.aD.
Mr 54
Mr 64
Mr 74
Mr 84
Mr 94

Jebel (African) > Jabel(Arabian) > Mountains
Djenna (African) > Djanna (Arabian) = Mountain Peaks
Why is it so hard for people to understand that Atlanteans simply means the most antique cultures of our modern world?
That is why it IS THE OLDEST LEGEND PRESERVED.
Older than the Great Flood.
The only significance to discovering the City of Atlantis is to prove that the city actualy existed like Troy, but not to prove that Atlantean Cultures exist.
The importance of finding the City of Atlantis is in hope of discovering ancient recordings of our advanced and evolved knowledge as we know it today and to satisfy our curiosities of a 12,000 year old legend which was revealed 2577 years ago in 570.bC from Pharaoh Amasis and Uadjahor-Resne.
The Egyptians even told us, and they were smarter than anyone else around them in antiquity and histories, that their teachings and wisdom came from a Risen Earth Land WESTWARD of themselves in the Delta Nile to TATENEN or Zep-Tepi if you like.
You now do realize that Africa is Atlantean also.
Where do they say your oldest bones and roots of dna go back to?
Tanzania? Aetiopia? Old Duvai Gorge?
The Land of JA.
Know this and retain your histories of your ROOTS.
God, The Father IS REAL.
Atlanteans are Real.
Who in this modern or ancient history of our World has a human been able to show you God, The Father Self Creator at Work in a physical dimension of vision for us to See?
Paulo J. Tx. Mn has.
With the True Garden of Humans in Tanzania, Africa.


.111. Joy To The World, The King is Come, Let Heaven and Earth Remain.111.

Point noticed is that the Pyramids were built by the Atlanteans and God.ca 3500-4500.bC.
Provenance.
Africans are Atlanteans
Edgar Cayce
Hall of Records
Atlantean Chronicles
Missing Sphinx NW of The Red Pyramid


God The Father's words to me;
"Just as the Pyramids I shaped for you."
Serapaeums,Temples
Apis Bulls
Secret Teachings
The Lion faces East
The Secret of The Son of Man
The Secret of The Holy Garden
The Secret of Carina Nebula
The Sun rises in the East.
That is the Sacred Teachings for our Earth.
But could the Sacred Reasoning of God wanting us to look East, to his Rising Sun, be of His Rising Son in the Carina Nebula Star System?


Could this have been once another Earth?
Could we have come from there?
I wonder....

AS ABOVE, SO IT IS BELOW.
(If you draw a map of the pyramids in the heavens, they point you to Carina Nebula and not Orion.)


THE LAW OF ONE
PLATO

ATLANTES-of Libyan people
ATLANTICUS-of Mount Atlas
ATLANTIAS-female
ATLANTIADES-male

Solon: "Tell me Uadjahor, where lies Atlantis?"
Egyptian Priest: "Solon, as the Falcon flies west, to the risen land, over the empire of lions and Kings,Avila (Africa),and further west (2nd Falc.) over the the realm of Nu (Ocean), lies a once fertile sunken (flooded) land, where knowledge and the teachings of spirituality come from."-SaJaRa-Riven 2005.aD. (ref. my heiroglyph for the name Atlantis in Egyptian at top of page.)

The Narmer Palette (Hwt-Hwt=two hathor bulls on top-3250.bC.)
The Writing is on the Wall.

10 Kings, Double Falcons, Twin Lions, Royal Crowns, Foreign Ship, Circular Fortress, Bull Worship
The four servants who carry the flag staffs, the first two near the ten fallen "Crowned" Kings (for their crowned heads are between their legs), are the most important flag staffs because they are most adorned with large flags and Two Falcons perched on top. None of the kings wear crowns typical of the Egyptian Pharaohs like the red or white hats, rather crowns comparable to english Royal Crowns.
As you'll also notice the two Bulls on top depict "Hathor", or the Egyptian flood of 3250.bC, where Hathor worship became popular with the inundation of the nile.
Before Hathor, it was The Two Falcons. (A-A)
The Twin Lions or Twin Chimaeras.
The "O" Symbolizes the Circular Sacred City, in comparison to "ON" for Egypt, or the Circular Fortress of Atlantis where Bull worship was introduced from. It may also indicate that the kingdoms have been "surrounded" and captured.
As you See, two men have harnessed the twin Lions after the fall of the 10 lion kings which would also be symbolic of capturing the two lands,upper and lower Egypt.
Hence the Bull on the bottom bowing to the ruined "Fortressed Nome", and fallen human.
The Ten Fallen Kings are not the Nine Bows.
As you'll also notice, the Pharaoh wears the Crown of the Delta Nile on this side of the Palette, representing the Atlantean Kingdom of The Delta Nile and The Twin A's or Double Falcons.
You'll also notice above the 10 fallen kings, a ship with a small bird above it. This means a foreigner or bad persons, notice a little gremlin type creature in the boat? This is also representative of the fact that Lower Egyptians were foreign and different to Upper Egyptians.

The symbol they think stand for Mer, or the Chisel, may not be what they think.
To further provenance, the Great Pyramid, as you know it, was standing in the time of Khufu, and The Red, in the time of Snoferu.
I tell you these men did not build the Atlantean Pyramids.
I have also shown the 885 missing years from Khufu.
For me that is enough provenance to sustain that the Pyramids were standing around 3500.bC, for The Son of Man, Philitis The Good Shepherd, or JESA, was murdered Dec 10th, 3474.bC, by Znoferu, The Zero Worship.
You know them as Egyptians, because they wanted you to.
I wanted to know who that mysteriously advanced culture really was.
Egyptians are evolved Atlanteans.

I'm thinking that the Fortress on the bottom right of the Narmer Palette with the Bull are these 3 Egyptian Nomes. Next to the Fortress near the Bulls head are 3 square stones, perhaps meaning 3 nomes which made up the "White Walled Fortress".
These would have included Sais and Buto earlier and the 3 main Western Nomes of the Delta Nile.
Nome Name: Nome 3: WestWhite Chapel Deity: Hepy of Hut-Ihyt
Major Deities: Hathor ,City(s):/Temples: Imu (Arabic Kom el-Hisn)/Hathor-Sekhmet
(notice that the two hathor heads on top of the Narmer tablet identify with this "HT-HT"-Riv.)Nome Name: Nome 2: Cow's thigh (Foreleg)
(the drawing of the Foreleg is close to the drawing of the Narmer Fish symbol...hmmmm-I believe what scholars call a chisel in the Narmer Palette, is actualy a cow's leg.
This fits the scene on top of the palette as a Table Set for Supper. Two Chairs, Cow's thigh over a leg between the Chairs. We do know what the slaughtered Cow means- a Sacrifice-Apis Bull - Golden Calf-Riv.)
White Chapel Deity: Khentykhem ('foremost of Khem')Major Deities Horus, Kherty
City(s):/Temples: Khem (Greek Letopolis, Arabic Ausim)/Horus-foremost-of-Khem
Nome Name: Nome 1: White fortress (White Wall)White Chapel Deity: Horus before Inebhedj' (?)Major Deities Ptah, Sokar, ApisCity(s):/Tempes: Inebhedj/Mennefer (Greek Memphis, Arabic Mit Rahina)/Ptah, Hathor
http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/nome2.jpg
Kom el-Hisn http://www.touregypt.net/featurestor...eltaruins2.htm
Between Kom Abu Billo and Naukratis lies what is left of the ancient town of Imu (imAw), today known as Kom el-Hisn. In Arabic, Kom el-Hisn means "Hill of the Fort", probably referring to the ruins of the local temple.In text, we find the name of this community mentioned as early as the 5th Dynasty, so it is not surprising that at least several excavations have also revealed a rich Old Kingdom occupation fairly near the modern ground level, and above the water table. A large part of the structures so far investigated were related to food storage and preparation. These included facilities for large scale grain storage, as well as specialized structures for cooking, plant and animal processing. The overall impression is that Kom el-Hisn functioned as a specialized center for cattle processing. The community probably sent most of its herds to Memphis and other cult and settlement areas. In the same nome as Kom el-Hisn was another town designated as "The Estate of the Cattle," or Hwt-iHwt, which was one of the oldest of the state foundations in all of Egypt, dating to the reign of King Den of the 1st DynastyImu was an important New Kingdom local administrative center as well. In antiquity, it was situated near a branch of the Nile that has since shifted eastward and was near the desert edge on the route to the Libyan frontier. A temple of Sekhmet-Hathor (here, Hathor is known as Het-Hert) was located in the town, but all that remains of it today is the outline of a rectangular enclosure. The site was identified by inscribed statues of Amenemhet III and Ramesses II found in the area.Information about Het-Hert's worship in this location comes from the New Kingdom grave of Khesuwer. He was a priest of Het-Hert and Supervisor of the Priests and of the temple precinct. His designation as Chief of the Harem and Chief of the Maidens probably denotes a position as supervisor of the women who were in the service of Het-Hert. During the 19th Dynasty, Ramesses II renovated the temple and in the 22nd Dynasty, Sheshonq III expanded it. In the Late Period, the town was known as pr-nbt-imau, meaning "Domain of the Mistress of Imau". Regrettably, much of the ruins of Kom el-Hisn are rapidly yielding to agricultural expansion in the area.
Peculiar that the Southern nome #22, el-list, just below memphis and around znoferu territory is remembered as the nome of the "Knife".Could it be a crooked dagger they remember near Znoferu's territory?
Remember This;
Khufu's Son, wanted to move away from his father and start his own worship in Abu Roash.
Akhenaten, wanted the Egyptians to stop worshipping false lords, and revert to ATEN.
"No longer would they call upon Osiris".....Akhenaten.

Properly, The Narmer Palette should be called;
The Commemorative Palette to The Fall of Atlantis.

For sake of better understanding for us All in this great quest of Truth, I hope to fill the Hearts of Darkness with The Truth of Light and The Truth of our Father Creator JA and his Kingdom Atlantis, that still is to this day.
Most people who are realists,scientists or scholars as such, say that religion or God is a blind faith and as such breeds the roots of atheism or evolutionary theories like Darwinian monkeys.
Let me take you on a tour of VISUAL REALITY to strengthen you curiosities of human kind, for these are pictures taken from Google Earth and Hubble Space telescope, so you can blame them and not myself if you doubt.
Here is how my understanding and messages of God, who is our Father Creator JA and our newest Atlantis still upon our Earth after the Great Disaster of 6482.bC, which the Chapters of the Old Testament also point to as I have shown you also.

Incidently, ca 600.bC, JAinism, was followed by approximately 1 million people in India, through a Saint who walked around naked and neither killed nor slaughtered any living thing of our Father's creations, even insects or mosquitos for the matter. Perhaps, as our signs also reveal to us today, this saint also found the secret of JA, back then.
You can read about this in "JAINISM" at http://www.newadvent.org/ one of the Greatest Websites for Wisdom lost.

The detour from my Atlantis research, to a path paved with gold and light, took a turn when I decided to look on top of the Great Pyramid, using Google Earth and I found TWO LETTERS on top of The Great Pyramid of our Father Creator JA.
Having realized this and heading 10 hours south of Cairo, I found the IDENTICAL TWIN PYRAMID to The Great Pyramid which is the Red Pyramid, and also the missing Lion Sphinx there, and the Temple of Man that they moved where they stained the grounds of Egypt with the Murder of The Son of Man, concealed later by the Wicked Khufu.
Pondering all this, I thought to take a closer look at the Pyramids in Cairo and decode their true intent of The Lion Sphinx and why they faced to the eastward heavens as you see from my map .
Having realized all this, I sought to find the missing Temple of Man with the echoes of old Egyptian Scrolls running through my mind. Then I thought about the "Tale of The ShipWrecked Sailor" and behold, thanks to Google Earth I was able to find the missing Temple.
It is also my belief that only a True Atlantean and Royal Son of Atlantis would be the prophet to reveal Atlantis and it's great Truth to us all, and as such is my birthright to The Azores Islands mid-Atlantic, and my Royal Bloodlines, I have revealed Atlantis to you all from ages past. Our latest Atlantean city to stand, that was also comparable to the words of Critias through Plato, is now Talha, Egypt and Al MANSA hur Egypt where these photos prove beyond any doubt your minds may have that the Nile Delta was once an Atlantean Kingdom also.
Two things that strike me as logical according to Science, is that Human brains reached their apex some 250,000 years ago. Humans were capable of anything.
50,000 years ago is the said apex of genetic mutations, or no new race types according to Dna research. Humans were Everywhere, Civilizations flourished.
That's 200,000 years for Man to figure out how to be civilized, or roughly 8 Solar Cycles of 26,000 years.
No doubt, much more civilizations from America and S.America will be unearthed.
From what we can see of your mystery of 33, is that it was an ideal number, cognizant by initiates.
Also, we can see an ideal "Hesperides" within the parallels of 30 and 35, balanced by The Straites of Gibraltar.
I'm sure you've also noticed the closeness of the Great Pyramid to 30.
Did you measure the Stone on Top with God’s Name JA written on it?

Another good explanation why America was also settled within those regions, like The Chestnut Trees, Setaria Italica Grass, and ancient cultures, is because they also kept this parallel of 30-35 degrees in tune with the North Star, as they were sailing, so they knew how to return home.
Crossing the Atlantic, as I enjoy saying, was a trip to hades and no knowledge of refreshments. (heading West to the falling constellations)
Naturally, to follow ones line, should bide ones time!
Toe The Line.

The Moon(Great) Pyramid 29.58 N 31.08 E North (Giza) White
White Sphinx (centered on head)
approx 235 x 70 feet at elbows.
29.58.30.91 N 31.08.15.69 E
The Sun (Red) Pyramid 29.48 N 31.12 E South Gold
approx 235 x 70 feet at elbows.
North West of The Red Pyramid.
29.48.58.75 N 31.12.02.63 E
Golden Sphinx ( "MISSING").
All Facing the east towards The Ascension.
(Preview with Caution) The Ascension and The Dragon of Defence Hubble Telescope picture.

A Word through Riven….SaJaRa….From God our Father Creator..Ja.

Be it known unto mankind, for he has bared witness for my Word.
My Son I carry in my right arm,
For what thou hast done upon this day which Riven foretells upon you.
Dec Tenth; Eight minutes past Eight in the Morning of Capricorn.
The Star of Venus and Mercury as One with Jupiter above.
In the age of Humanities reincarnation, to the year Three Thousand Four Hundret and Seventy Four, years of Age before his Second Coming upon the innocent.
Standeth upon the stain of Egytpa, Cairo.
Thirty Degrees and Three minutes due North......(33)
Thirty One Degrees and Fifteen Minutes due East.
Seven Thousand Nine Hundred and Seventy One Stars Twinkling at Six and Half magnitude.
You don't believe in me,but they are there, to see, and witness.
Is the Staff not Long Enough?
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Atlantean South America-Riv.

Quote:
Arawakan: The most widely distributed of Amazonian language families, Arawakan includes 74 languages, divided into several subgroups including Aruan, Guahiban, Harakmbet, and Maipuran. These branches are estimated to have split from their proto-Arawakan parent between 4500 and 2500 years ago.
Many Arawakan languages are now extinct, but a few survive in the former heartland region of the Amazon-Orinoco. Maipuran, once centered in the western Amazon region, by about 3000 years ago spread throughout the Caribbean Antilles. Arawakan speakers who migrated from Venezuela to the Greater Antilles are now grouped into Taino, Sub-Taino, and Lucayan dialects, first encountered by Columbus.
Carib: Divided into two branches, with 21 Northern and 8 Southern Carib languages, most speakers are in the Guianas, Venezuela, and northern Brazil, from where Proto-Carib migrations began ca. 4500 BP. One of the largest Carib groups are the Macushi in Guiana. Initial accounts of the Carib from Columbus' first two voyages of 1492-4 described the Arawakan-speaking Taino of the Greater Antilles as living in fear of Caribs, named Canibales and Caniba.
Aymaran: With about 1.5 million speakers, Aymaran (in the Jaqi family) is spoken in the highlands of Peru and Bolivia, in northern Chile, and Argentina. Other Jaqi languages include Jaqaru and the extinct Kawki. Aymaran was also well documented by missionaries, starting in 1584 with a catechism written by an anonymous Aymara convert to Catholicism. By 1603 Ludovico Bertonio, a Jesuit missionary, wrote three grammars, a dictionary, and several religious works in Aymara. Ethnographic and linguistic research continues in the region.
http://www.athenapub.com/salang1.htm

Taino culture in the Caribbean Antilles
The Taino were a group of related tribes speaking Arawak languages who lived in large farming communities throughout the Antilles, including the larger islands (Greater Antilles) of Puerto Rico, Haiti and the Dominican Republic, Jamaica, and Cuba. They were the first people encountered by Columbus in his initial landfall in the Bahamas in 1492.

Jatibonicu Taino Tribal Nation of Borikén
http://www.taino-tribe.org/jatiboni.html
Ja'-ti-bo-ni-cu' "Sacred High Place of the Great Waters"
syllable means explanation
Ja' Ja' Sound used in "admiration" in Jai! or Guay!
Ti High Tall, High or Elevation
Bo Great Big, Great or Greatness
Ni Waters Water or Noble
Cu Sacred Place Sacred or Sacred Place
"Sacred High Place of the Great Waters" or as we officially refer to ourselves
by the Taino tribal name Jatibonicu' "Great People of the Sacred High Waters"
Those translations of JA are as those people recorded in their legends upon South America.
(By the way, did you know there is a letter "Z", on the Egyptian Tomb 100 map from ca 3200-3500.bC in the south east corner?)
There is also horses in the north east corner and lions in the north west corner.
(scholars tell you the horse and chariot came from the Hyksos ca 1600.bC-- ???)
I believe it to be a map of the mediterranean, and not somewhere south along the nile as Egyptian scholars think.
Then again, I don't think like Scholars, I think like a Seer with predirection and faith from gathered knowledge.
I have an uncanny way of knowing where to look, and for those things to become a piece of our puzzle for our Planet.
Though many disbelieve, fear, and scorn without even looking to the testimony revealed.
Well, they did say us Atlanteans were the most advanced culture from 12,000 years ago....
That is why my acceptance is so hard today, because what I have to say, shatter's everyones principals of history and religion.
As you now know, witness and have a better understanding and realization of Atlantis, God our Father JA, and The Great Hidden Truth, I hope this will save many lives for our futures of uncertainty by "Broken Oracles of Egyptia and Phoenicia", that effect us very strongly to this very day and powers the war upon Iraq at present and the true intent of world domination by certain "monetary machines" and “puppet” governments imposed as your own kind who only understand the power of money.
I understand the Power of People and a Unified World of Peace.
I hope this message of World peace, allows China to let the Tibetan Dalai Llama return home to their world of peace and help them to prosper, and that no children may starve, suffer or be without shelter and healthcare in our World today so we can become All.
Because we are God's Children also...
Peace to All For The Law of One Unified World of Purified Christian Peace.
Christ is The Blood of The Son of Man, No More, No Less.
The Son of Man is God’s First Born Son.
The Holy Family
The Father, His Wife, His Son and His Daughter.
Just As Yourselves.
King, Queen, Prince and Princess.
ATLANTIS EARTH

Pray With Him, Not To Him
Worship No Stone
Command No Death
Love Thy Neighbours
Preserve our History

The Secret of Mylo and The Books of Herodotus by Riven. 2006.aD. (8488aJA.)
9:05 PM 1/12/2006
Herodotus of Halicarnassus.440.bC.
Book 1) Clio
Book 2) Euterpe
Book 3) Thalia
Book 4) Melpomene
Book 5) Terpsichore
Book 6) Erato
Book 7) Polymnia
Book 8) Urania
Book 9) Calliope
Book 10) Where is it? Someone has it.Herodotus was writing in the era of memory of the 10 Kings (after 1500.bC,Deukalion), and he definitely was not writing about the Ennead....Please return the book to us,It belongs to Man and Woman.You can no longer hide the lies.
The Secret of the Books of Herodotus by Riven.
Clioeuterpethaliamelpomeneterpsichoreeratopolymnia uraniacalliope.
Epoillacainaruainmylopotareerohcispretenemoplemail ahtepretueoilc.
Epo- illa- caina- rua- in- mylo- potare- ero- h(ae)cis- pretene- moplema(Mopsus)- ila- hete- pretueo.
Epic by that way fallen (Vulcan?)to waste/sorrow into this MYLO > Mysian/ drunken wanderer with his faults, to lie before the Oracle broken Secret Society greatly prized here.
Translated with Cassell's New Latin Dictionary, 1959 edition....from Ja.
By SaJaRa Riven Jan 12,2006.aD (8488aJA.)
RETURN THE 10TH BOOK OF MYLO....Please, it is a piece of our History, along with the Books of Alexandria....Thankyou.

In Reality part of Atlantis is "Egytpa" those are our Great Twin Pyramids and Lion Sphinxs all over the lands, which we will find many Atlantean cities around the World changed to the Pharaoh and "RAM" heads of Aries after the loss of our Son of Man Dec 10th,3474.bC and suppressed by the subjugations of Egypt and Phoenicia to this day...until I turned my vision 2576 years later from when the story was brought to Athens by Solon ca 570.bC.
ATLANTIS was the ONLY TRULY ADVANCED civilization.

Atlantis is a legend that was preserved by the Egyptians and Greeks from 9570.bC, according to the Atlantean Script of Solon, a Greek Statesman, who received this knowledge of Atlantis, upon his visit to Sais, Egypt and the Libyan Pharaoh, Amasis II, ca 570.bC, and Wedjahor-Resne, the Egyptian Priest, Physician and Naval Admiral.
Unknown to the Greeks, it was forgotten and retained from Egypt as Plato's, Timaeus tells us, written in 360.bC. Chalcidius, ca 350.aD, a Latin Scribe, would preserve Plato's work from his original notebook, (based on my study of Oxford's, Ms.Digby slides of the originals and translated by myself) and later penned perhaps in Syracuse, Sicily, around 350.aD.
To better understand Atlantis, it is easier to view the Timaeus as the original mention of the Legend which was cleverly "Hidden" in the Astrological account of life's origins and dynamics of Physics, which takes us back to the said 9000 years prior, to the seed of He-Phaestus and Athena.
This account would have been the original AZORES ATLANTIS I prior to the Great Disaster of 6482.bC and past the Pillars of Hercules, Gibraltar some 300 miles to the Josephine and Ormonde Seamounts in the Atlantic Ocean.
Later, the more vivid account of Atlantis, it's social structure and technological achievements such as Triremes, Chariots, Aqua-ducts, Canals, Temples, irrigation, Ten Twin Kings and such, was clarified by Plato's account of Critias, also thought to be written around the same era of 360.bC, which takes us into the Bronze Age and no later than 1500.bC to Deukalion's (Ten Kings) Flood and The Battle of Ares (Etruscan Atlanteans).
This leads us to the most recent Atlantis known by those Greek Scholars ca 570.bC as TALHA and Al MANSA hur, Egypt Delta Nile where we find the concentric "Z" apartments, adjacent race track and Canal. Here we also find the Seal of The Atlantean Lion some 3 stadiums by 2 stadiums in size of monolithic proportions upon the ground still visible today.
In reality, the two works PRESERVED by Plato, Timaeus and Critias, tell us of a realistic time span of 9570.bC - 1500.bC.
This legend has been doctrine into the human mind as a Myth for 2575 years, simply for lack of verification of our Royal City, which vanished from the Great Flood around 6482.bC. Truth of Life, is that Atlanteans have never completely vanished and were the major contributors to our advanced technological World of Today. Simply clarified, any lands touching upon the Atlantic, are in fact Atlantean lands, where Atlanteans still exist, including America, S. America, Africa, England, Scotland, Portugal, Spain, France, and Italy, NW Africa, and any and all Atlantic Islands, to this very day in our year 2005 aD, and to our future. The regions of NW Africa, Tarraconensis Iberia, and all mid European and mid African lands, are the highest accounts of names peculiar to ATLANTIS, and their etymological roots derived from Linear A, the by product of Azilian and Glozel scripts of our FIRST ALPHABET, some 12000 years ago. (twelve thousand).Another prime example is the ancient name for Mauretania, which was known as Gualata, such as Iberia was known as Gaul or Gallia to France, or the Guanches in the Canary Islands and many rivers of Gua or Gades, Spain and Agades, Mauretania. The reason for these names for those territories around the Pillars of Hercules (Gibraltar), is simply because of the great mouth or "Throat" of the Mediterranean which engulfed the Waters of Neptune's Atlantic Ocean. Ga or Gua, in it's deepest form is a body part, specificaly, throat. The Phoenicians, commonly attributed Ga or Gad to indicate animal body parts.
In essence many Atlantean cities simply changed over time from subjugations such as Lisbon,(Ollasippo) Portugal, Cadiz,(Gades) and Tartessos (Tarraco) Spain,Atiliana,Barbaria Tarraconensis Iberia, Lixus (Soloeis) Morroco, Carthage, Phla Lake Tritonis, Cyrene Libya, Atranto,Otranto Italy, Sicily,Tarxien Malta, Aghia Triada, Phaestus,Knossos and The Great Mesar Plains of Crete, Atiliantes Greece, Euboea, Troia (Troy) and Boz Dag Anatolia, Ecbatana, Adana,The Levant, Tanis,Talha, Aja, Al Mansa hur, Abu Roash, Cairo and further south to Atlantis II upon the once large island of Avila Africa and past the broken pillars of Eritea,Ethiopia, are but some of the vast empires of Atlantis in Ages past.
The Atlanteans are known to have arrived through the "Throat" of the Mediterranean from the Largest Island in the Atlantic. In essence there are ONLY TWO such throats or "Pillars of Hercules" that provide passage to the Atlantic, Gibraltar and Eritea Red Sea also in tune with the mystery of Atlantean "TWINS".
To exemplify the uniqueness of languages ,and how Gualata is a derivitive of Atlantis , we only need to look at the translation from old Boustrephedon, for the word GUALATA, which would be ATALAUG, backwards. Originaly, the u was a y, and the G, was a C in our language histories that reveals the importance of ATALAYC. Atalais, Atalis, Atlas, Atlantis.
This is another test upon the word Atlantis which in itself stands provenance and is composed of many true and hidden meanings that are indicative of refuting any falsehood associated with the word Atlantis.
In short, after 2575 years of denial, it's time the World ACCEPTS THE FACT AND VERIFICATION, that ATLANTEANS, are in fact living, breathing Humans, such as myself who comes from these mid Atlantic Waters and for the most part since 6482.bC and our Father's recreation of us, we are primarily Atlantean ancestors today in our highly technological World upon Earth.
For now, here is Truth of your Legend and ongoing research into Science and Spirit Forever, for one cannot be the one without the other or elusive third that binds them both....Riven.

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The ancient Atlantis civilization flourished on the Nile River some 30,000 BC, before it turned into Ancient Egypt (the lesser Atlantis) around 4000 BC. The Nile river is the original birth place of the Atlantis civilization, who where black African people of today.

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Dynamicwiseman;

The Sub-Continent of Atlantis island was approximately 140,000,000. years old.
On average, islands in the Atlantic Ocean are about 120,000,000. years old.
Based on Pangea splitting apart, the Atlantic Ocean would have first started around 150,000,000. years ago, (millions) and approximately 70,000,000. years ago, America and Africa were half way apart based on the rate of spreading at the mid atlantic mar.

This means that the island of Atlantis was our true old Middle Earth where our First Garden of Umans was born. (Garden of Eden)
This is why animals,flora and Umans share identities on either side of the Atlantic such as Elephants, or the worldwide spread of Setaria grass or even Chestnut trees in America. Not only that but the myths of those cultures share peculiarities such as the eastern tribes came from western islan or the west came from the east.

Note my 50,000 year old Basque translation of the word Atlantis broken up into syllables.

"The main evergreen forest is born a joyous miracle at dawn the abundant monument increases to unite the future arrival and remain loyal to the secret of creation."


It is beyond coincidence, that etymologicaly based on the 50,000 year old "preserved" Basque language that we should find such a statement applied to Atlantis.

The name of Atlantis, even though it is a modern Greek name from Egyptian, is not far off from it's original name which can also be compared to Tatenen for the Egyptians as their primeval mound of creation westward of the nile or my other egyptian decipherment as HAT NT IW which would mean FOREMOST ISLAND OF NEITH or since Neith is Libyan, then we can also say Foremost Island of Libya. As you'll notice Hat nt iw and At nt is, are also close to each other in sound and writing and both can be written with the heiroglyph for the risen arms of Shu.

The oldest Goddess statuette in the world is the Tan Tan Goddess some 80,000 years old found in Morocco near Rabat.

The point is, had our Island of Atlantis still been around today in the Atlantic ocean some 300 miles before the straites of gibraltar and beyond to the Azores, we would have found the oldest Umans there. Since it's final disappearance ca6482.bC the focus changed to "Out of Africa" or Libya as it was known back then.
Then our 2nd Garden of Creation ca.6435.bC became the Garden of Eden in the Bible which is in Tansania,Africa as I have shown.
I call it the Garden of Avila because this was also an old name for Africa as you'll also notice the name was Hidden between two letter H's by the Hounds of Hell that changed Umans into Humans, see? (H-avila-H).

For their is Gold in that land a river that encircled Ethiopia.

The neanderthals were on the move in western Europe 1 million years ago when the Egyptians were first forming tribes in Southern Sudan.


I have been saying for at least 6 years now that the pyramids were built by Atlanteans and that in fact we all are Atlanteans.
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Great work, Aejor Mn.

I have a massive connection with Atlantis, and it's brilliant that you post stuff like this. Will refer people to your thread.

Please post more info, if you have.... also tell us how to help.

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Thank you for your compliment The Cosmos, I started this research in 2003 and most of my work is at Atlantis Rising Forums which was the first forum I joined. http://www.atlantisrising.com

Anything you have to say or post about Atlantis is always appreciated assistance for all of us.

If you don't understand, my vision is that the Royal City of Atlantis was situated on the eastern coastline some 300 miles away from Gades,Spain in the Atlantic Ocean at the Josephine/Torre seamounts. (Horseshoe Abyssal plain)

The island of Atlantis was some 2000 x 1000 miles in area which also included the Azores islands in the north west where I was born and would have also contained the Canaries, Madeira and Cape Verde islands as you can see from my maps. This Sub-Continent is what I call Azores Atlantis I.

Atlantis II would be where the Garden of Avila(Eden) is in Tansania,Africa which would also have been a large island surrounded by 5 mountains that compares to the Cycladic Stone map of Atlantis picture that Archaeos call a "Frying Pan".

It's funny to realize that this "Frying Pan" from the Cyclade islands ca 2850.bC for baking bread on in kilns would have imprinted a secret map of Atlantis on the bottom of the bread!!!
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Were the Sumerians from Atlantis by Paulo Riven.

I know I am not the first to suggest that the Sumerian kings lists are also the Atlantean kings names. This is obvious because it seems apparent in our histories that any list of 10 specific kings suggest Antedeluvian kings such as Plato's Atlantis,the 10 patriarchs of the Bible or the Babylonian kings from Sumer so it would natural to compare them. We understand that Plato's kings names are the result of the "greek meaning" of the names of Solon's translation from the Egyptians who translated them from Atlantean. I haven't seen any elaborate attempts to explain the meaning of the names of the Sumerian kings and how they relate to the Atlanteans.

Some key components for thinking that the Sumerians may have ties to Atlantis are;

1) Atlantean seafarers settled in the persian gulf on the Euphrates valley,perhaps escaping the Atlantis destruction.
2) The memory of the kings names may have been preserved by Sumerians
3) The Epic of Gilgamesh "suggest" that Gilgamesh journeyed to the mediterranean and past the straites of gibraltar in search of his ancestor Utnapishtim who lived with his wife on the "blessed Isle" in the Atlantic Ocean.
4) Scholars have debated for a long time on the links between Egypt and Sumeria.
5) The Atlantis story came out of Sais,Egypt and the Delta was once an Atlantean Libyan settlement (Marea province) prior to Menes.
6) Oannes myth,fishman

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A logogram is a reading of a cuneiform sign which represents a word in the spoken language. Sumerian scribes invented the practice of writing in cuneiform on clay tablets sometime around 3400 B.C. in the Uruk/Warka region in the south of ancient Iraq. [The etymology of 'Iraq' may come from this region, biblical Erech. Medieval Arabic sources used the name 'Iraq' as a geographical term for the area in the south and center of the modern republic.] The Sumerian language spoken by the inventors of writing is known to us through a large body of texts and through bilingual cuneiform dictionaries of Sumerian and Akkadian, the language of their Semitic successors, to which Sumerian is not related. These bilingual dictionaries date from the Old Babylonian period (1800-1600 B.C.), by which time Sumerian had ceased to be spoken, except by the scribes. The earliest and most important words in Sumerian had their own cuneiform signs, whose origins were pictographic, making an initial repertoire of about a thousand signs or logograms.

The vowels may be pronounced as follows: a as in father, u as in pull, e as in peg, and i as in hip. Of the special consonants, is pronounced like ng in rang, h is pronounced like ch in German Buch or Scottish loch, and š is pronounced like sh in dash.
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Sumerian Lexicon
by John.A.Halloran
http://www.sumerian.org/sumerlex.htm

After the kingship descended from heaven, the kingship was in Eridug".(Eridu)

e; house,household,temple,plot of land
er, ir; n, tears,lamentation,prayer,complaint
....v, to weep
eriis; queen,lady
erin-babbar- white cedar (cedar+white)
aria,arua(eria)-district,desert,wasteland
du; v, to build,make,to mould,cast,erect,raise up,to plant
... suitable,fitting,to be finished,necessary,complete,quarrel,struggle,fight
dug; earthen jar,pot,jug,vessel
.....gladness, v, to enjoy,make enjoyable. adj, sweet,good,beautiful,favorable,pleasing,fresh(wate r)
.....n, speech v, to speak,order,command,sing,speak with,converse

eriis, queen lady compares to Leucippe (white cedar / white poplar) grove of white horses

It seems that when these people founded Eridu, that they came weeping (destruction of their home Atlantis?). They managed to build a suitable city that prospered and became a beautiful city where many conversed and had fresh water. They may have struggled and fought hard to build and protect their city where later they also built temples and sacred sites. It must have been a pretty city with white cedar trees and abundant gardens.

Here in the first kings name of Alulim, we can see many comparisons to Atlas and Shu,the Egyptian god (endure,raise,arms,strong,giant,foremost of people,risen stone,father son) and also to his grandfather Evenor(Euanor),primeval,firstborn.

His name definitely rings out as a "first or primeval man" fashioned from the clay with tablets of gods wisdom implanted in his mind. He was huge and strong with big arms and broad and a wise man who provided farming and agriculture and animal husbandry for his people. He was a good provider and his tribe flourished and became abundant because of his irrigation and fresh water experience which included digging canals. Seems like he also was fond of crabs.
People looked up to him as a rising shining star and as a man who was true to his words and deeds. The noose and lasso relate him to the hunting with nooses and staves as described in Plato's Atlantis and the forked hoe relates him to Neptune. It seems that from the word, Illu, that he may have survived a flood, perhaps escaping from the disaster of Atlantis.

Alulim-The First King of Eridu

a; n,water,canal,offspring,father,flood
ata; by means of strength
atal; to have broad arms,(be broad)to spread wings or arms
atuku; strength,mighty man
AKAL; strength,plow extension(arm+strong)
u: plant,vegetable,grass,food,bread,pasture,load
u: adj; strong,powerful(man) v, to nourish,support,mount,ride,to board(a boat) to steer,conduct
...raised high,(land or ground)
u; [gisgal] huge
u; [Se]; barley (pronounced Shay)
ul: adj; remote,distant(in time),ancient,enduring,
...n, joy,pleasure,satisfaction,star V, to glitter,shine.
ul; to be quick,to hurry,hasten
(gis)al; digging stick,pickax,forked hoe (pronounced angishall)

li; true measure,fine oil, to glisten,shine
(gis)li; juniper,cedar tree (pronounced angishlee)
lu; many,man,men,people,sheep
...v,to be,make numerous,abundant,to multiply,to mix,to graze,pasture

ila, ili, il; n, carrier
.......v, to lift,carry,to deliver, to bring,to endure,to support,to be high,to shine
ili; to rise,get up
illu; high water,flood

imi, im, clay,loam,mud,tablet,wind,direction,weather,storm, cloud,rain

(u)lal: n, noose,lasso

ala,alala, exclamation of joy
ala -fettered legs
alu; adj, small cattle
alum; adj, sheep

allu-crab
allub/lu-type of ax
alluhab-type of net(for crabs)

amaru-destructive flood

Townships of Sumer may have started around 3400.bC with earlier settlements going back to 6000.bC.
Not much different than egypt when we can see that there were organized states prior to Menes or Narmer as is evident from the palettes.
The doors to predynastic egypt are starting to open with dynasties 0 and even 00 being debated by scholars.

I just wonder when they will admit that Atlanteans ruled the delta.

This seems to be a common factor for our seafaring atlanteans to settle in delta areas such as the nile,tartessos,the po valley and even the euphrates delta at eridu as suggested.
The irony is that when we understand the name of Atlas as "foremost of the people" such as Alulim also portrays that Geb would best fit that description for Egypt.

Geb is the son of the God Shu.
Geb portrays the earth,which should mean that he is earthborn or autochthonious.
Geb's wife is Nut which could indicate that his earth wife was really Neith.

Geb,in my view,became deified as Ptah and Neith as Nut.
Both Geb and Neit can be traced back to our Atlantean Libyan lands towards lake Tritonis.
Osiris is Geb's son who compares to Eumelus for "rich in sheep" as Ausir.

Though unlikely but possible,it could mean that Osiris is really Geb's brother Ausir who was killed by an Upper Egyptian named Set which also reflects the truth about Egypt when the Upper Egyptian "smiters" came along and subjugated the Atlantean Libyans in the Delta that they controlled upto Lake Moeris and Saqqara.

Geb was also later identified by the Greeks as Kronos.

At-Las = Ate-Laas = Ruined Stone (compare Pontius Pilate of the Bible = Pontus-Pil-Ate = Bridge of Piled Ruin = Fake name)

Atta - Laos = Father-People

Atlas - very ancient person
Atlas - first born twin
Atlas - King of Atlanteans
Atlas - head of Atlanteans
Atlas - chief of Atlanteans
Atlas - commander of Atlanteans

very ancient = foremost
firstborn = foremost
king = foremost
head = foremost
chief = foremost
commander = foremost

Total of 16 words whose definitions contain "foremost".
Words in Literary_Greek Keys

enkôpon LSJ...................................foremost
epi LSJ, Middle Liddell, Slater, Autenrieth...foremost
kephalê LSJ, LSJ, Middle Liddell, Autenrieth..foremost
kubistaô LSJ, Middle Liddell, Autenrieth......foremost
metôpêdon LSJ, Middle Liddell.................foremost
paroiteros LSJ, Middle Liddell, Autenrieth....foremost
promos LSJ, Middle Liddell, Autenrieth........foremost
prosthios LSJ, Middle Liddell.................foremost
proteros LSJ, Middle Liddell, Slater, Autenrieth..foremost
probainô LSJ, Middle Liddell, Slater, Autenrieth..foremost
probolê LSJ, Middle Liddell.......................foremost
proïôxis......................................fo remost
prôthusteros LSJ..............................foremost
prôtoploos LSJ................................foremost
pugêdon LSJ...................................foremost
stoma LSJ, Middle Liddell, Slater, Autenrieth.foremost

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kephale = the head

The head also means; he who is foremost, the chief,commander, the king, above all.

Atlas is the King,the chief,the commander,foremost above all the Atlanteans.

promos = foremost man, chief = Atlas

proteros = first,foremost of time, beginning, firstborn = Atlas

The two closest translations for Atlas are properly;

A-TLAS - A (FOREMOST) AND TLAO (ENDURE)

AT-LAS - AT (ATTA-FATHER) LAOS (PEOPLE)

We can even include AT-LAAS as foremost earth stone or mountain for Atlas mountain (A-Ta-laas)

A-foremost Ta-Earth laas -stone

A is the first and foremost letter of the alphabet which also means origin or arising from such as foremost also represents.

So we can even say Risen Earth Stone for A-TA-LAS which also relates to mountain.

But we are speaking of a person and not mythical heroes like prometheus and epimetheus which mean forethought and afterthought.

So,of the two best translations for Atlas, would it be easier to find a person who endures or the foremost father of the people?

The problem is we need the Egyptian word where I have given an example in HAt.it.rmT for foremost father of the people which also would equate with GEB who is the EARTHBORN son of SHU and Geb is also personified as PTAH who also portrays the risen arms in his heiroglyph,and later Geb was called KRONOS by the Greeks.

If you check the egyptian name for the nome of Athribis(greek)which is also comparable to the name Atlantis because they start with AT you will find (H.t-tA-Hr.t-jb ; Greek Athribis). This also compares with one of my egyptian names for Atlantis as H.t-nt-iw (Hat.nt.iw > At.nt.is) which means Foremost Island of Neith (Libya).

OSIRIS is a son of GEB (or maybe his real brother?) Osiris is called Zeus Dionysios by the Greeks. As you can also see posted,Osiris (Ausir) identifies with the second king of Sumeria which relates to Gadeiros.

Looking for a Great king or chasing the god shu or he who endures could be an eternity, but looking for the foremost or oldest father of the people is closer in sight.

Now,is it any wonder that the oldest father of the Sumerians also identifies with the name Atlas and foremost father of the people?

Another clue appears in twin to Atlas as Gadeiros which identifies with Gades which identifies with a semitic name of sorts like GA-DR for rich in goats(or livestock).

This name can be traced back to Phoenicians which we can also trace back to the Sumerians because Semitic branches also broke away from them and we have proof of this also because Abraham came from Uruk. To even make this more interesting the Sumerians ca 3000.bC had a district called AGADES.

I am not saying that Eridu was Atlantis but that the Sumerians (who also appeared like the egyptians as advanced and suddenly) and the Phoenicians,like the Egyptians were Atlantean settlers FROM Atlantis island which is also reflected in the names of their first two and foremost fathers!

Coincidence?

Geb and Ausir(Osiris) are from the western lands of Zep-Tepi or Tatenen or Khenti Amenti if you like, or in other words Libya which was the entire north part of Africa coast to coast.

Geb's wife is said to be Nut which we can see is clearly in reality Neith(NT) who was also Libyan and the Atlantean district of the Delta nile upto Saqqara also prior to the "smiting" by Menes(Narmer)from upper Egypt,Thinis, was controlled by the Atlantean Libyan district of Marea.

You know,the people who built the Twin Great Pyramids and Twin Lions prior to the deluge of 3253.bC.
And they also worshipped JA for his name is written on top of and inside on the airshaft stoneplug of the Great Pyramid in Cairo as my photos reveal.

I call Him AeJon. He is the oldest Foremost Father Creator.


A = Origin,Foremost

Sumerian;......................................... Greek............................................. .Egyptian

Alulim............................................ ..Atlas........................................... ....gb(Geb/Ptah)
" Foremost Father of the people"......." Foremost Father of the people".........HAt.it.rmT
.a = foremost....................................proter os = foremost.........................HAt = front
a = father........................................patr a/atta = father.............................it = father
lu = many,men,people......................laos = people................................HH-many,rmT-people
ul = ancient,enduring.........................geraios-ancient/atlao-endures.........pAt-antiquity
imi = clay,mud,tablet........................laas /laos = stone...........................rwdt-sandstone
im = man..........................................anthr opos=man................................s.(se) = man

ata = by means of strength...............dunamis = strength.............................pHty-strength
atal = broad arms,spread arms.........strong risen arms,support...............qAi-be high,risen

Alalngar .........................................Gadeiros. ........................................wsir(Ausir/Osiris)
"Foremost of Shepherds"................Eumelus = rich in sheep...................aSA.sr
alu - small cattle................................poiman-herdsman..........................mniw-herdsman
alum - sheep....................................meleios- of sheep..........................awt-flock,sr-sheep
la - abundance,wealth,have a beard......emareo-abundance......................aSA-be abundant
a-ang - to command,to instruct............archon-commander.......................wD-order,sbA-teach
a-angar - to irrigate.............................ardo-irrigate

AeJor Mn
Paulo Riven

Today's date; 8491.aJA.

Today's galactic time: 10:10.
(We are back on track from the doom of 11:11 (8888 or 2406.aD) due to the fall of the Obsidian Dragon in 2006.)
You will notice 10:10 more often since then.
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The Bible Chronology of Riven.


Here's the problem with man's history according to The Bible.

In the Bible, it took God 7 days to create the Earth, be they which eons you choose.

But yet, it only took man 2 chapters from creation to Sin, and 5 chapters to DESTROY what God created.


Genesis
This book is so called from its treating of the Generation, that is, of the creation and the beginning of the world. The Hebrews call it Beresith, from the word with which it begins. It contains not only the history of the Creation of the world; but also an account of its progress during the space of 2369 years, that is, until the death of Joseph. (For more information, see the article PENTATEUCH in the Catholic Encyclopedia.) -New Advent. http://www.newadvent.org/bible/

2369 / 50 Chapters for Genesis = 47.38 years per chapter or 17,293.7 days.

6 days (chapters) would equal 284.28 years of Creation.
1 day = 47.38 years to rest and sanctify the Earth.

7 days = 331.66 Years for Gods works or 121,055.9 days.

If we perceive chapters as years of days. For Chapter one, we know was six days of Gods work, so 47.38 years divided by 6 days = 7.896 years to a day, however...

Chapter 1 - 47.38 years = 6 days of Creation.
Chapter 2 - 47.38 years, but in this Chapter God rested for only 1 day...7.896 years + 47.38 = 55.276 years of God's Great Works.

On the 56th year , humanity Sinned. (5+6=11) (1+1=2)
2 = Man and Woman.

Chapter 4, Man commits Murder, 189.52 years later.

Chapter 7, The Deluge proclaims the Earth, 331.66 years after Creation.

Chapter 8, The Earth is reborn, 379.04 years after Creation.

So if we take my date of 6482.bC for that Battle of Neptunes Minions, that would mean that the Earth was created in 6813.66 bC, according to Theosophists and myself, which of course we could extend this slightly if we constitute each day as a Chapter of 47.38 years rather than 7.896 years from God's 6 days in Chapter 1. If we did that, then God would have just finished building the Earth, and like a child with resentment for his artwork, would crumple the paper right after...The only difference being that we would have to start Genesis off at Chapter 8 to reserve 7 Chapters for God's Works and Leisure.

Let's look at the Chapters.


THE OLD TESTAMENT

PENTATEUCH ------------------------------------- Chapters
Genesis .................................................. .....50
Exodus .................................................. ...... 40
Leviticus 27
Numbers 36
Deuteronomy 34
----------------------------------------------187
HISTORICAL BOOKS
Josue 24
Judges 21
Ruth 4
1 Samuel (alias 1 Kings) 31
2 Samuel (alias 2 Kings) 24
1 Kings (alias 3 Kings) 22
2 Kings (alias 4 Kings) 25
1 Paralipomenon (alias 1 Chronicles) 29
2 Paralipomenon (alias 2 Chronicles) 36
1 Esdras (alias Ezra) 10
2 Esdras (alias Nehemias) 13
Tobias 14
Judith 16
Esther 16
1 Machabees 16
2 Machabees 15
----------------------------------------316
WISDOM BOOKS
Job 42
Psalms 150
Proverbs 31
Ecclesiastes 12
Canticle of Canticles 8
Wisdom 19
Ecclesiasticus (Sirach) 51
---------------------------------------------------313
MAJOR PROPHETS
Isaias 66
Jeremias 52
Lamentations 5
Baruch 6
Ezechiel 48
Daniel 14
-----------------------------------------------191
MINOR PROPHETS
Osee (Hosea) 14
Joel 3
Amos 9
Abdias 1 (21 verses)
Jonas 4
Micheas 7
Nahum 3
Habacuc 3
Sophonias 3
Aggeus 2 (1st year of King Cyrus)
Zacharias 14
Malachias 4
------------------------------------------67
1074 Chapters x 47.38 years = 50,886.12 years for the Old testament.

If we consider a Chapter a day, and a day was 7.896 years, then @ 1074 Chapters = 8,480.304 years.

Less our 2005 years = 6475.3.bC.

Not bad, a mere 8.7 years difference to my 6482.bC date.

That is, from the simplicity of the complexity of Chapters and the "Rebirth of Mankind".



The chronological advancements of our History by Riven.


6482.bC, Great Flood and rebirth of Humans


6000.bC, Crete,Malta Civilizations and Temple Building.

5000.bC The Civilization of Egypt. The change to Barbaric Warriors.

4000.bC Minoan Thallassocracy, (rulers of the Sea-Med.)

The Height of The Tarxiens,Malta known in The Bible as Tarshish. (Pharaoh Tshsh,Palermo Stone)

3500.bC The Bronze Age and The Battle of Atlantis, 10 Fallen Kings Narmer Palette,Gebel-el-Arak Knife, Tomb 100 map, Dragon Claw Orbis Ships, Chariots. Possible construction of Atlantean Twin Pyramids and Lions upon Egypt, just prior.

StoneHenge Erected, England.

3240.bC. The "NEW UNIFIED" Egypt of Pharaoh Menes (aka Narmer)
Respected of The Atlanteans who he also respected...JA and Atlantean Philosophy of Thoth, perhaps upto DEN.

Trades with Lebanon and Palestine abundant, Egyptian Ships Sail.

Sais and Buto Priesthoods of Tatenen.

2500.bC. The Trismegistus of Khufu from Snofru's Blood of Brine.
.........Philitis The Good Shepherd upon Egypt
.........The Oracle of The Prodigal Child not of the Blood of Khufu.
.........150 years of Darkness fall upon Egypt.

2000.bC. The poison of thou "Shalt be put to death" inflicted upon the lands by Egypt and Phoenicia from The Blood of Brine.

1862.bC Sesostris II Subjugates Europe and Phoenicia.


1700.bC, Hyksos retaliate (Greek name) for Shepherd Assyrio-Palestines of Ecbatana, perhaps.
Ecbatana has knowledge of Atlantis.


Battle of Ares Titans; Etruscan Atlanteans vs Greek Olympians

1500.bC Supposed Flood of Deukalion compares to 2600.bC Gilgamesh epic.

1500.bC. The Forked Tongue of Egypt and The Ramses Kings continue the "Poison" and merge bloodlines with Persia.

Zeus,Hera and Posedion replace Jove,Juno and Neptune.
"Egytpian" King Belus.

1200.bC Mycenaeans launch Aechean Attack on Troia. (Agamemnon and Menelaus)

1190.bC Sea People pirates from Troia Battle launch attack upon Egypt, great time of depression throughout entire Mediterranean.

Phoenicians spread throughout Europa and North Africa.

1000.bC Etruscan Thallassocracy, Carthage and Latins.

Greeks "terrified" to sail the Tyrhennian Mare until Massilliots ca 600.bC.

Muslim/Islamic Invasions-"thou shalt be put to death".

Fez Caps in Morocco.

Greeks forget Ancient History ca 800.bC.

Gades, Carthage, Tartessos, powerhouses of the Balearics.

700.bC, The Seven Hills of Rome, the Great Western "PUSHBACK" to preserve Christianity and Europa's History.

600.bC Solon Archonship at Athens.

570.bC Fate of Egyptian extinction leads to Saitic Head Priest, Uadjahor-Resne revealing the Truth of Solon and Atlantis.

332.bC Alexander The Great driven by Aristotle's Wand, The Bible already being Translated.

Great Library of Alexandria constructed in Egypt.

30.bC Great Roman Emperor, Augustus.

0 - Birth of Christ "according" to Constantine Bishops and The Bible's reformation of a Unified Religion with Phoenicia.

330.aD, Constantine Niceane Creed "reforms" religion and The Bible,joining East with West.

350.aD, Chalcidius preserves Plato's work Timaeus from Greek into Latin, no record of Chalcidius for Critias.

(My research is indicative that Chalcidius could have been St. Augustine)

413.aD, Hypatia the Neo-Platonist Murdered.

Fall of Alexandria, Fall of Wisdom.

800.aD. Irish Monk preserves Timaeus by Chalcidius.

1150.aD Ken Digby preserves Timaeus by Chalcidius (MS Digby 23) bound with "The Song of Roland" -Normandy.



Astrological Ages (Approximately)

NEW WORLD-ATLANTIS-(Riv.)

Aquarius.2000.aD -4000.aD

Age of Pisces - 2000.bp to 2000.aD

Age of Aries - 4,000 to 2,000 B.P.

Age of Taurus - 6,000 to 4,000 B.P.

Age of Gemini - 8,000 to 6,000 B.P.

Age of Cancer - 10,000 to 8,000 B.P.

Age of Leo - 12,000 to 10,000 B.P.

Age of Virgo - 14,000 to 12,000 B.P.

Age of Libra - 16,000 to 14,000 B.P.

Age of Scorpio - 18,000 to 16,000 B.P.

Age of Sagittarius - 20,000 to 18,000 B.P.

Age of Capricorn - 22,000 to 20,000 B.P.


MIRROR TWIN-Riv. (TAOOAT > DUAT)


OLD WORLD- LEMOERIA / MU -(Riv.)

(start of civilizations,40,000.bC-Riv)

Aquarius-24,000-22,000.BP.

Age of Pisces -26-24

Age of Aries -28-26

Age of Taurus -30-28

Age of Gemini -32-30

Age of Cancer -34-32

Age of Leo - 36-34

Age of Virgo -38-36

Age of Libra -40-38

Age of Scorpio -42-40

Age of Sagittarius -44-42

Age of Capricorn - 46,000-44,000.BP.
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