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Old 04-05-2014, 05:49 PM   #421
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Originally Posted by aejor_mn View Post
Rapunzel and Abacus, I don't think you'll find any mention in Porter and Moss's Theban temples about Wilkins statement of the Egyptian festival commemorating a sunken continent in the west on an eighth column or pillar in the temple of Ramses, because Porter and Moss do not go into detail regarding columns or pillars in the Theban temples of Karnak.

Also there are several Temples of Ramses I, II, III at Karnak to further confuse the matter along with the possibility that Wilkins may have meant the Hypostle hall of Amun?

On the other hand in the Porter and Moss article, I did find a serpent headed goddess named Termuthis, which is similar to Pharaoh's daughter Thermuthis who found Moses of the biblical exodus, in the river.
It is Josephus who named Moses supposed mother as 'Thermutis', which is a Greek name. As Moses was a legendary figure so his royal Egyptian foster mother would be legendary too.

Wherever Wilkins meant this inscription was to be found I have never come across mention of it in all the books I have read and the people I have spoken to.

It seems it will remain a mystery as to who first described this column and translated the glyphs.

The Goddess Thermutis is the harvest Goddess Renenutet who was sometimes conflated with Isis.
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Old 07-05-2014, 04:27 PM   #422
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Originally Posted by aejor_mn View Post
Rapunzel and Abacus, I don't think you'll find any mention in Porter and Moss's Theban temples about Wilkins statement of the Egyptian festival commemorating a sunken continent in the west on an eighth column or pillar in the temple of Ramses, because Porter and Moss do not go into detail regarding columns or pillars in the Theban temples of Karnak.

Also there are several Temples of Ramses I, II, III at Karnak to further confuse the matter along with the possibility that Wilkins may have meant the Hypostle hall of Amun?
But, if he did mean something else other than what he said, why didn't he say as much?

FWIW, Wilkins' exact words are:
[...] the great hall of the temple of Rameses at Karnak (Thebes) ...
More on the Great Hypostyle Hall at the Temple of Amun, Karnak

As I said in an earlier post, I find it difficult to take any of Wilkins' comments very seriously (especially as he was also responsible for such works as 'Flying Saucers on the Moon').
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I love the temple at Karnak! I'm amazed at the precision of the statues and how they were made with copper tools! I need to research and learn about that more! x
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Old 12-06-2014, 02:42 AM   #424
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Arrow Atlantis Atlantis: The Antediluvian World


Our Rockefeller textbooks tell us that nobody in the ancient world had ever crossed the Atlantic before Columbus.

But the voyage of the Mayflower only took 60 days. Are we honestly to believe that no one had ever previously taken the 60 day trip in all of human history? The great civilizations of ancient Egypt, Babylon, Sumer, Greece, Rome, and the seafaring Phoenicians never wondered what was out West past 59 days sailing?

If we accept this improbability, we have to accept many more along with it, because the native American cultures of the “New World” and the Eurasian cultures of the “Old World” were already far too similar to have naturally evolved separately.

For instance, compare the Peruvians and Egyptians. The number of complex comparisons between the two peoples far surpasses serendipity. Both cultures believed in an immaterial soul which reincarnates through multiple physical existences.

They both worshipped the Sun, Moon, and Stars, and held amazing astronomical knowledge, much of which has just recently been rediscovered. Both peoples built amazing stone pyramids, often containing boulders too heavy for modern cranes to lift, quarried from miles away. Both cultures embalmed/mummified their dead. Peruvian and Egyptian royalty both wrapped children’s heads in the practice of “skull elongation” (like trepanning) to attain higher consciousness.

They both divided the year into twelve months. Both peoples had a women’s order of vestal virgins vowed to celibacy, and violating their vows was punished on both continents by their being buried alive. Both cultures offered animal sacrifices and divined the future by examining the animal’s entrails. They both built huge arches and strewed the road with flowers for returning home triumphant warriors/heroes. At the beginning of each agricultural season during a big celebration, the Kings placed their hands to the plough and ploughed the first furrow.

Are we to believe such incredibly specific practices developed completely independent of one another?

“When the Spanish missionaries first set foot upon the soil of America, in the fifteenth century, they were amazed to find the Cross was as devoutly worshipped by the red Indians as by themselves.”

Ignatius Donnelly, “Atlantis: The Antediluvian World”

Ancient symbols like the cross and the swastika already existed in the Americas long before the Europeans came. Egyptian symbols like the “Akeru” back to back lion gods hieroglyph are found in Olmec temples from ancient Mexico.

We have also found Mayan art and glyphs in Egypt.

The pineal gland (6th chakra, the third-eye) lies at the geometrical center point of the brain. Plato’s account of Atlantis described a “ceremonial column at the very midpoint of the Temple of Poseidon, itself located at the center of Atlantis.”

The ceremonial column (Oak Tree, Tree of Life, Staff of Moses etc.) is the human spine with 33 vertebrae. The actual medical term for the 33rd vertebrae which holds up the skull is “Atlas,” same as the King of Atlantis.

In Atlantean mythology, Atlas holds up the world or the heavens and in your body the Atlas vertebrae holds up your head/mind. In Atlantean mythology, Atlas has 7 daughters who spend all their time guarding and dancing around the Tree of Life; In your body you have 7 energy centers (chakras) dancing around your spine.

Plato described Atlantis as being shaped like three concentric circles of land separated by concentric circles of water. In other words the shape of a bull's-eye. Why would the center of a target be called a “bull’s-eye” anyway?

The Atlas vertebra holds up your brain, your “thirdeye” is at the center of your brain, and the center of Atlantis is a “bull’s-eye.” In fact, your skull, which Atlas holds up, is shaped just like Atlantis is described. At the center point is your third eye. The third eye is separated and surrounded completely by water/fluid. Next is the cerebral cortex, the meat of the brain. Then around that is a layer of constantly flowing/pumping blood. And lastly around that is the skull.

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Old 12-06-2014, 05:52 PM   #425
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Arrow Atlantis transplanted Atlanteans 28 million years

There’s much mystery and confusion, garbled tales and misinformation about the Lost Continent of Lemuria, but even more concerning the man who spent a lifetime trying to put it in its rightful place on the map, Colonel James M. Churchward, author of the Mu books.

In 1920, the British-horn Churchward came out with his first in a series of five hooks, The Lost Continent of Mu, prefaced by an admonition to "all scientists" to please copy for future reference. important points of pre-history and anthropology he had compiled through more than 50 years of research and exploration throughout Asia and the South Sea:

"There was once a flourishing continent in the middle of the Pacific Ocean called Mu ... The greatest tragedy of mankind occurred when Mu sank, carrying down with her 63.000,000 people and a civilization approximately 200,000 years old. This civilization was at its peak before the mountains were raised, when according to Charles Darwin, man was still closely related to the monkey ... South America at that time had an inland sea comparable to the Mediterranean today. The Incas and the Mayas of prehistoric times were the dying embers of an earlier civilization.

The oldest records of mankind are right here in our own country, which was one of Mu’s first colonies ... Records in Tibet over 70,000 years old, show communication with South America, as well as with China. Egypt, India and Africa ... Man did not "evolve" after the Glacial Period because there was no Ice Age. When Mu sank and the mountains were raised, man degenerated into the savagery out of which our own civilization emerged."

Before the shock waves had settled, the Colonel followed quickly with his companion editions, The Children of Mu (1931), The Sacred Symbols of Mu (1933), and Cosmic Forces of Mu in two parts, 1934-35. He had prepared notes for this next volume, Books of the Golden Age, published in 1997, and had started work on Traces of Mu in America.

The problem of Lemuria has long taken a back seat to the more popular Atlantis ’legend,’ being of even more ancient vintage, but there is considerably more identifiable evidence for its existence in the Pacific, with its hundreds of megalithic ruins on land and in shallow water, obviously pre-Polynesian, that defy explanation of their origin. Atlantis jealously retains its secrets thousands of feet down, under water, slime, and perhaps the sea bottom itself. But with recent geological events, suddenly what might have happened to Lemuria (and Atlantis) have become relevant to earth’s future. And Churchward’s research, his explorations and theories, are being given a new look in the light of new technological advances, and an ability to access many ancient, esoteric records through the Internet. Many of his findings, once ridiculed, have been proven and cross-proven; notch data is still being debated.

Churchward stated that the Cascade volcanic mountain chain was "quiescent, dormant, but not extinct." The chain contains,

Mt. St. Helens (blew apart in May, 1980)
Mt. Adams

Three Sisters
Many of these belch steam and rocks from time to time: Shasta experienced a 3.0 quake on Nov. 6. 2001, a rare event. Helens had just suffered over 100 tiny tremors; Sisters shows activity currently with an increasing bulge. Are these harbingers of future violence? This chain, he contends, is connected to three Mexican volcanoes by a gas-belt system far beneath the earth’s surface (12 to 18 miles), and when a block develops along the belt, earthquakes result if the block is not blown off by volcanic eruption along the he It-line. Churchward, before the discovery of tectonic plates which divide up the earth, contended that these gas-belts circumtraverse the globe, with chambers that underwent coil apse at certain times in prehistory, causing subsidence and submersion of lands. This is what, lie stated, caused the sinking of Mu, and why it occurred so swiftly; lie quoted the Troano manuscript, which described the "loss of 64,000.000 souls."

At P.T.’s family townhouse in 1885, James met Augustus Le Plongeon and his bride Alice, just back from 12 years exploring the Yucatan. During the 1870s, James had traveled to Ponape, New Zealand and the South Seas with his cousin, William Churchward (British Consul to Samoa), and had joined an expedition to Llakoff Island and Eastern Asia (discussed in the second Cosmic Forces book). Now he was impressed with tales of Central America and Mexico having been peopled by émigrés from a sinking Atlantis, as Le Plongeon insisted. James argued that there was more evidence for an exodus from Mu west to the Americas. Evidence shows they were both right: Cayce Readings (derived from accessing Akashic Records) cover both civilizations.

In one, Cayce says
"there was an attempt to correlate the teachings of Ra in Egypt, Saneid in India, with that of the Gobi or Mongolia, the Persian, of Og and Atlantis, Carpathian, the Pyrenees with that of La, Mu, or Lemuria.... about 10.700 B.C., in Gobi land after most had left Lemuria" and "Sacred books, then, were the writings from the Temple of the Sun as well as from Mu"

Despite years of struggle by P.T. and the Colonel to market NCV following WWI, steel bigwigs had successfully blacklisted the alloy, and finally a dispirited James sold the Churchward International Steel rights to a small company. The brouhaha had brought names like U.S. Steel’s Judge Eugene Gary, J. P. Morgan, and a Krupp Munitions rep to the courtroom, and P.T. was flummoxed when contacting close connections from Miami Beach to Washington. The word was out: NCV was taboo, as politics, finance and the "Steel Juggernaut" closed ranks.

But the Colonel had over a quarter million (equivalent to about 28 million millennium bucks), and by 1922 had re-embarked on his original pursuit, Mu. Both the Le Plongeons had died, and the issue of Mu versus Atlantis hadn’t been settled! Every record, inscription, legend or artifact that the French explorer saw as proof of an Atlantean colonization of Yucatan, Mexico and South America, Churchward could translate into a sign of influx from the west. The "cradle of civilization," Le Plongeon believed, was in Atlantis, and Mu-ans came after, or maybe were transplanted Atlanteans. Not so! countered the Colonel; Hindu records proved Mu to be the motherland. In the last analysis, Lemuria doubtless preceded its eastern counterpart as the primal spot where man first appeared which, according to Cayce, was 10-112 million years ago, in a material body considerably less dense than now. Philostratus, in "Life of Tyana," says "the first Egyptians were a colony from India" and historian Valniiki, in the Ramayana, writes:

"The Naacals first established themselves in the Deccan, India, and from there carried their religion and learning to the colonies of Babylonia and Egypt. Their Nubian settlement was called Maioo on the present site of Suakin."

Supposedly, this preceded the colony started at Sais, the "mouth of the Nile" by Thoth, son of an Atlantean priest, in 14,000 BC, with a temple for teaching the Osirian religion. According to Cayce. by 10,090 BC the Atlanteans had arrived from their sinking continent, adding to the conflict between the Egyptians and attackers from Carpathia (Ibex Rebellion).

During this time the Great Pyramid was built, with Hermes (Thoth) principal architect; the Sphinx was "already there." With this suggestion of black (Africa), red (Atlantis) and white (Carpathia) races within pre-dynastic Egypt, it is not surprising to find wall paintings still extant in Egyptian temples and pyramids depicting all three. Original Lemurians (brown race still existing in Pacific regions) and those from the Gobi (yellow) or their descendants found their way as well to Egypt, the melting pot 15 millennia ago. The white and yellow races sojourned southward, according to Cayce, with the,

"turning of the axis, climactic changes, and uprisings on Atlantis, they came more into that portion of Egypt. India. Persia and Arabia."
(#364-13, Nov. 1932)

While Churchward toured India for the last tine - presumably between writing his first and second books - it isn’t known whether he visited the same temples and monasteries where he had spent years in his early manhood, in discourse with the Rishi and studying tablets and scrolls in Pali, Sanskrit, Tibetan. Chaldean, and Uighur. In one of the western Tibetan monasteries he viewed a map which showed South America as it was 20.000 years ago, with an Amazonian Sea occupying the jungle area. Canals connected it with the Pacific coast, a water route between Mu and Atlantis, south of Tiahuanaco.

"There had been upheavals also from the land of Mu, or Lemuria. and these had their part in changing of the [Yucatan] land contours [ 10,600 BC], or there was the injection of their tenets in the varied portions of the land; temples then erected by Iltar and his followers from Atlantis, in this land ...a combination of those peoples from Mu, Oz [pre-Incan] and Atlantis ... we may find in these ruins that which partakes of the Egyptian, Lemurian and Oz civilizations, and later activities even of the Mosaic activities."
(#5750-1, Nov. 1933)

To support both Churchward and Cayce, there are traces of far-flung civilizations in the Negroid and Semite-featured statues of Olmecs in Oaxaca and Monte Alban (below images); the likeness of a bearded Tlaloc at Tula, Chinese jade found in Niven’s lowest city; evidence of Phoenician voyages in Azores and near Cape Cod. Edward H. Thompson reported a race of light-skinned, blue-eyed " Ulnwcas" landed near Tampico, often called Chanes or Canob.

Olmec Colossal Heads

According to Cayce, the white race originated in the Carpathians, now Turkey; apparently few stayed the put, with colonies established in Egypt, in Gobi, in Mu, all over the present Europe, Atlantis, and ultimately Mexico and C. America (doesn’t the name "car-path" suggest it?!).

According to the Mayan books of Chilam Balam and the Popol Vuh the first inhabitants of Yucatan came "from the East landing on Cozumel."

Other records mention "from lands to the West" referring to Mu mountain ranges rather than Atlantis. There is no "right" answer; they came from everywhere! Logically, fleeing Atlanteans could not bring their sophisticated technology with them, only the memory of it. Those who survived the last sinking of Mu were left to island-hop in search of food; remnants of this "back to the primitive" communities is what archaeologists are finding: flints, hand-made tools, pottery - and snickering,


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