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Old 28-08-2008, 06:32 AM   #1
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U.S. soldiers say they executed Iraqis on riverbank: report
Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:25am EDT

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Three U.S. soldiers killed four handcuffed and blindfolded Iraqi prisoners with pistol shots on the bank of a Baghdad canal last year, the New York Times reported on Wednesday.

Sergeant First Class Joseph P. Mayo, the platoon sergeant, and Sergeant Michael P. Leahy Jr., Company D's senior medic and an acting squad leader, made sworn statements in January to Army investigators in Schweinfurt, Germany probing the incident, the newspaper reported on its website.

The men each described killing one of the Iraqi detainees, as directed by First Sergeant John E. Hatley, according to the statements. Hatley shot two other detainees with a pistol in the back of the head, Mayo and Leahy told investigators, according to the NYT.

U.S. soldiers cannot harm enemy combatants once they are disarmed and in custody, the NYT said.

A spokesman for the U.S. Army in Europe declined to comment, saying he could not speculate on any future legal action.

David Court, the lawyer in Germany named by the NYT as representing Hatley, was not immediately reachable.

According to Leahy's statement, cited by the NYT, Army officials directed Hatley's convoy to release the men because there was insufficient evidence to detain them.

"First Sergeant Hatley then made the call to take the detainees to a canal and kill them," as retribution for the deaths of two soldiers from the unit, Leahy said in his statement.

"So the patrol went to the canal, and First Sergeant, Sgt. First Class Mayo and I took the detainees out of the back of the Bradley (fighting vehicle), lined them up and shot them," he added, according to The Times. "Then we pushed the bodies into the canal and left."

After the men were killed, Hatley told Leahy and Mayo to remove the Iraqis' bloody blindfolds and plastic handcuffs, according to the newspaper. The three soldiers then shoved the bodies into the canal and drove back to their combat outpost, the paper said.

No charges have been filed against Hatley, Mayo or Leahy -- all from Company D, First Battalion, Second Infantry, 172nd Infantry Brigade.

However, four other soldiers have been charged with conspiracy to commit premeditated murder relating to an incident that occurred last year in Baghdad, the U.S. Army in Europe said in a statement last month.

A hearing in that case opened on Tuesday and is still going on in the southern German town of Vilseck, the U.S. Army spokesman said on Wednesday.

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Old 28-08-2008, 12:07 PM   #2
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Old 17-09-2008, 10:09 AM   #3
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how do you know all soldiers are scum... i guess you deal with soldiers everyday in your life long journey around the internet... you just google key words like 'soldiers and rape and murder' and watch the videos... not thinking that most soldiers have families. wives ,husbands,daughters, sons... im not condoning the acts of these men.... murder is not good... but you dont know what they go through and see everyday... imagine loosing a friend who is more like a family member.... and finding the people who did it.. what would you do... what would you do.. give em a hug... looks like the brainwashing of the masses has taken another victim.. you... someone has got you hating soldiers... i guess a few bad videos will do that .. soldiers are just people with emotions... no one is perfect not even you and if you were ever to put yourself out there in a situation thats dangerous id like to see how you react... there are sick people in all walks of life who murder and rape.. and guess what .. THEY WERE NEVER SOLDIERS.....i was a soldier for 6 years.. i deployed to Iraq in april of 2003... did my time .. seen alot of shit and decided to get out.. but along the way... i also did good things... but i guess if i were to hand you a news paper with the headline 10000000000 killed by soldier.. and another one with the headline' man gives woman flower.. i already know which one you would read first... WAKE UP... stop bashing a group of people just on uneducated claims its like racisim and has no place in a free thinking sociaty.

But on another note i thank the person who started this thread... Some soldiers need to wake up as well and stop making the iraqi masses hate the rest of the world through random acts of violence

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Old 17-09-2008, 10:13 AM   #4
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The reason people have no sympathy for soldiers is they sign up to kill people, and end up fighting unjust and illegal wars in places like Iraq. I agree they do see some fucked up shit and it messes with their heads, but who forced them to join the army?
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Old 17-09-2008, 10:21 AM   #5
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The reason people have no sympathy for soldiers is they sign up to kill people, and end up fighting unjust and illegal wars in places like Iraq. I agree they do see some fucked up shit and it messes with their heads, but who forced them to join the army?
good point ....

wanna kill some people and rape some women ?

here...sign up here .. we'll even pay you for it ...

It's the army/navy/other bollock not a professional killer contracting organization
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Old 17-09-2008, 10:28 AM   #6
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The reason people have no sympathy for soldiers is they sign up to kill people, and end up fighting unjust and illegal wars in places like Iraq. I agree they do see some fucked up shit and it messes with their heads, but who forced them to join the army?
what do you do for a living... im not saying feel sorry for soldiers. im just saying not all soldiers are bad.. i bet the last murder or rape in your town was not commited by a soldier... i even agreed with the thread.. but for someone to come out and say ALL OR A GROUP OF PEOPLE ARE BAD is just sad in my eyes... not all jobs in the army revolve around killing people.. for instance.. supply.. doctors. computer specialists.. medics.. the list goes on and on.. soldiers get quarterly training on ethics .. and how to conduct them selves with dignity and respect... do you have any dealings with soldiers outside of the media and icke forum
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Old 17-09-2008, 10:30 AM   #7
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good point ....

wanna kill some people and rape some women ?

here...sign up here .. we'll even pay you for it ...

It's the army/navy/other bollock not a professional killer contracting organization
look up...
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Old 17-09-2008, 10:37 AM   #8
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soldiers get quarterly training on ethics .. and how to conduct them selves with dignity and respect...

U fucking kidding me ?

When u sign up to kill people and murder innocent kids in the name of an iluminati agenda that got nada to do with human behavior, does not matter how much fucking ethic quarterly bull shit you do

Do you want me to post some liveleak videos to edify your ass on what war is all about ?

quarterly training on ethics .. you fucking trying to be funny ?
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Old 17-09-2008, 10:45 AM   #9
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U fucking kidding me ?

When u sign up to kill people and murder innocent kids in the name of an iluminati agenda that got nada to do with human behavior, does not matter how much fucking ethic quarterly bull shit you do

Do you want me to post some liveleak videos to edify your ass on what war is all about ?

quarterly training on ethics .. you fucking trying to be funny ?
WOW.. i see the movement has another victim.... i think the term free independant thought is lost in here by some of the free thinkers. mind control is a crazy thing and i see that not only the ilumaniti know how to use it.... AND NO,, i dont want to see your propaganda.. i was in iraq and i know the war has nothing to do with iraqi freedom and WMDs. i have seen it all on and off the internet.and im making my OWN educated guesses on whats going on.. i just dont follow the beliefs of others because their video is cool this week,, all i wanted to say here is dont judge the actions of a few and say everyone does it.. to say that is like saying all americans and british people are stupid.. and thats not true....
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Old 17-09-2008, 10:46 AM   #10
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what do you do for a living... im not saying feel sorry for soldiers. im just saying not all soldiers are bad.. i bet the last murder or rape in your town was not commited by a soldier... i even agreed with the thread.. but for someone to come out and say ALL OR A GROUP OF PEOPLE ARE BAD is just sad in my eyes... not all jobs in the army revolve around killing people.. for instance.. supply.. doctors. computer specialists.. medics.. the list goes on and on.. soldiers get quarterly training on ethics .. and how to conduct them selves with dignity and respect... do you have any dealings with soldiers outside of the media and icke forum
I agree that all soldiers aren't bad, but that's not the point. The fact that theyr'e in an invading army in an illegal war puts their credibilty way down.

Who commited the last rape in my town has got nothing to do with this whatso ever.
I'm not saying that every job in the army is one that involves killing, but even if you're a chef or a mechanic it's still supporting on every level the people who do and the agenda behind it. Yeah , I have had some dealings with soldiers in real life and most of them have come back from the war they were in hating the people of that country,because, as you pointed out, they killed their friends and hated their guts etc. But what do they expect? That's what happens when you're part of an army that marches into someones country and starts ordering them around and shooting/ blowing them up.
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Old 17-09-2008, 10:52 AM   #11
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I agree that all soldiers aren't bad, but that's not the point. The fact that theyr'e in an invading army in an illegal war puts their credibilty way down.

Who commited the last rape in my town has got nothing to do with this whatso ever.
I'm not saying that every job in the army is one that involves killing, but even if you're a chef or a mechanic it's still supporting on every level the people who do and the agenda behind it. Yeah , I have had some dealings with soldiers in real life and most of them have come back from the war they were in hating the people of that country,because, as you pointed out, they killed their friends and hated their guts etc. But what do they expect? That's what happens when you're part of an army that marches into someones country and starts ordering them around and shooting/ blowing them up.

'I agree that all soldiers aren't bad, but that's not the point'.. that was my point.. the person i was talking to said all soldiers are bad.

i was in iraq.. my job was combat arms.. i got shot at and shot back. do i agree if the soldiers should be there.. . no......do i call iraqi people who fight terrorists... no... if you or anyone else really had a clue about the agenda.. then you would be dead... we are all just fishing....
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Saying all soldiers are scum etc. isn't gonna help anyone. You mentioned brainwashing, and I think alot of soldiers are brainwashed even before they join the army/forces, by unwavering patriotism in their community & media or family who have probably served in the forces.

War veterans and soldiers hold a lot of weight in the anti war movement as well.
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Saying all soldiers are scum etc. isn't gonna help anyone. You mentioned brainwashing, and I think alot of soldiers are brainwashed even before they join the army/forces, by unwavering patriotism in their community & media or family who have probably served in the forces as well.
you right..i joined because i had nothing better to do and i always wanted to travel.. but i also believe that there are some in here that have encountered a certin amount of brainwashing by their peers to come to some of their beliefs.. its just hard for me to believe that we are the awakened ones., when someone comes with another view of something they are ganged up on and if thats the way this world is going then just line me up in front of the fema camps and kill me .. cuz i dont want no part of this..
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you right..i joined because i had nothing better to do and i always wanted to travel.. but i also believe that there are some in here that have encountered a certin amount of brainwashing by their peers to come to some of their beliefs.. its just hard for me to believe that we are the awakened ones., when someone comes with another view of something they are ganged up on and if thats the way this world is going then just line me up in front of the fema camps and kill me .. cuz i dont want no part of this..
If you are part or were part of the army .. then u are/werre mind kontrolled ..I happened to be very femiliar with what's going on ..


To get help I know who can actually deprogram u and help u .. pm me
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The reason people have no sympathy for soldiers is they sign up to kill people, and end up fighting unjust and illegal wars in places like Iraq. I agree they do see some fucked up shit and it messes with their heads, but who forced them to join the army?
You dont feel that some may have joined with a desire to serve the country they live in? there a re a lot of people who believe they join up to defend something good and I doubt many people join up with the express idea of killing people.

What are your feeling on people who abduct unarmed people and cut their heads off on viedo?
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Old 17-09-2008, 06:32 PM   #16
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You dont feel that some may have joined with a desire to serve the country they live in? there a re a lot of people who believe they join up to defend something good and I doubt many people join up with the express idea of killing people.

What are your feeling on people who abduct unarmed people and cut their heads off on viedo?
I'm sure they did join to serve their countries, misguided as it may be in the case of Iraq/Afghanistan/vietnam/etc... etc...

Why do people trying to justify genocide always bring up the beheading thing?!

I think it's disgusting, but those unarmed people should've known better. But saying that, they're innocent casualties of war, same as most Iraqis, and to a lesser extent the soldiers who willingly signed up for the army and invaded their country. but, the blood of all these people is ultimately on the hands of the governments and their trained lapdog media.

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If you are part or were part of the army .. then u are/werre mind kontrolled ..I happened to be very femiliar with what's going on ..


To get help I know who can actually deprogram u and help u .. pm me

Could u deprogram plse I was in the 2EME REP
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Old 16-10-2008, 08:31 PM   #19
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I like Bill Hicks take on it:

“anyone dumb enough who actually wants to be in the military should be allowed to join”
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Lets face it whether it be police or Army there is something lacking in the mindset, it is usually lack of education or lack of moral respect for other humans and the need to feel superior in some form or another. No matter what your intentions you will end up an oppressor of someone.

I almost fell for it myself, I was 1 week away from being sent on my training as a Royal Marine and in that week I smoked my first Joint, So I firmly believe that ganja saved my life and my sanity..lol. And I know why I wanted to join at that time and that was to shoot people and not be held accountable for it, I was only 18 at the time but now im 35 and I have a son, and if he wanted to join the military, I would break both his ankles like that crazy bitch in the movie "Misery".

The Military is like bell bottom trousers, there was a time they were cool but now they are just fucking ridiculous.
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