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Old 02-12-2009, 01:36 PM   #81
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Did they worship God of the Holy Bible or Bel/Ba'al, sun gods, or?
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This is probably more fitting here,



Could you please go a little more in depth,and what about the so called 13th tribe?

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I will get round to it when I have thought about it, and have time to answer you properly. I have been posting, but very late at night after a day's hard work, so please cut me some slack.
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A proper answer I look forward,maybe you should be putting your feet up a little more often
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A proper answer I look forward,maybe you should be putting your feet up a little more often
You are right. I am definitely working too hard at the moment. Off to bed. Goodnight.
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You are right. I am definitely working too hard at the moment. Off to bed. Goodnight.
are you writing a book about it?
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Come on GS ....

Its like waiting for a bus.
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Its like waiting for a bus.
I reckon he is stalling

Maybe it should be the Tribe of Peter.

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It is 16 minutes to midnight. I have just arrived home after a hard day's work. I left home at 4.30 a.m. this morning and I have driven nearly 600 miles. I will answer you when I am ready and not before. I am off to bed. I have to leave home tomorrow morning at 5.30 a.m.
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It is 16 minutes to midnight. I have just arrived home after a hard day's work. I left home at 4.30 a.m. this morning and I have driven nearly 600 miles. I will answer you when I am ready and not before. I am off to bed. I have to leave home tomorrow morning at 5.30 a.m.
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Owdo mac,

seeing its taking GS forever to answer I came across this little bit of info.

After the last BIG FREEZE and after the flood, which inundated the island of Atlantis that also generated the global Noah and the Ark stories, the survivors landed in the America’s, Africa, parts of the Middle East, the Canary Islands, the Azores etc. This people group was known to science as the “Adams.” The “Adams” bred into the Middle East and seeded the Canaanites. They were also called the Phoenicians and the “Sea People.” It was the “Sea People” who also transported the Tribe of Cain –Dan” into Spain, France and the British Isles from the Mediterranean Sea.

Now how much truth to it??

http://www.britam.org/HebrewTypes.html#Hebrew

Connecting the red-haired gene with RH-negative bloodline and Canaanites - The Rhesus negative factor was introduced into Europe thousands of years ago by a migrating people. Although we find a small percentage of rhesus negative people spread throughout Europe; we find a high percentage among the Basques, the Albanians, and Guanches of the Canary or Fortunate Isles. Rhesus negative Basques were one of the many groups of refugees from Atlantis and the root ‘CAN’ in CANary is a derivative of the word Cain or Canaan??

The Canary Islands and the Lost Continent of Atlantis

For centuries, even after the Spanish conquest, it was believed that the islands were the uppermost peaks of the lost continent of Atlantis of which Plato wrote in his "Timeos and Critias". http://www.ctspanish.com/communities/canary/canary.htm

Or maybe CAN ada?? http://www.scribd.com/doc/519559/Atlantis
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/at...lantida_13.htm


http://www.burlingtonnews.net/revelations http://www.altrementi.com/mid-atl_ridge.htm

http://bataiosu.files.wordpress.com/...est-secret.pdf (The Biggest secret)



TBH if any real proof it must be in the blood or DNA.

The only DNA in blood would be the DNA contained in white blood cells as red blood cells have no nucleus and therefore no DNA.

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Another thing that might be of interest in relation to the tribes......

They apparently came from the patriarchs's Abraham, then Isaac and then Jacob. The 12 sons of Jacob became the 12 tribes of Israel.

The common term "anglo-saxson" is a derivitive of the name of "Isaac's son"

When you say "Isaac's son's" fast, it sounds just like "saxson"......a little food for thought

In a few places in scripture, there refers to a time in the last days (of this present age) called "a time of Jacob's troubles".....thought that was interesting
Hi Amethyst hope your holiday is going well.

I must have missed this one,

Found some info on it.


Then after Israel's national captivity, what did the large majority of Israelites end up being called by the Persians and others? "Sacae" or "Sakai." Earlier we quoted a passage from Sharon Turner's History of the Anglo-Saxons showing part of Armenia being named "Sacsina" after them--a term parallel with the "Saxons." Let's look again at the relevant sentence here showing the development of the word "Saxon": "Sakai-Suna or the Sons of Sakai [Sakai-sons] abbreviated into Saksun, which is the same sound as Saxon, seems a reasonable etymology of the word 'Saxon'" (p. 87).

Now where did this word Sakai or Sacae come from? "SACCAE was the contemporary Middle Eastern term for Scyth and the name is believed to be a DERIVATIVE OF 'ISAAC'" (Davidy, p. 128). Doesn't it make sense, then, that "SAXONS" is simply a logical linguistic corruption of "ISAAC'S SONS."

In pronouncing the Hebrew word for Isaac, Yitzak, it is easy to see how the first syllable could be dropped over time. In American English, the first "o" in the word "oppossum" is no longer pronounced by many people. Other word corruptions are more dramatic--a "telephone" is now simply a "phone." A "refrigerator" is a "fridge." Instead of sending "facsimiles," we send "faxes." Most nicknames derive from the same shortening of words. For instance, women named Elizabeth are often called "Liz" or "Beth."

But perhaps the most poignant example of this for our purposes is what the Assyrians (whose court language was Semitic) did with the word Israel (Heb. Yisra'el). Notice how they referred to King Ahab of Israel in ancient documents: "A-ha-ab-bu Sir-'i-la-a-a" (cf. Pritchard, Ancient Near Eastern Texts Relating to the Old Testament, pp. 277-281). They clearly dropped the Yi from Yisra'el (or the "I" from Israel)! Wouldn't the same be true of Yitzak? Based on all we've seen, more than likely! The Yi would be dropped, leaving Tzak (or the "I" dropped, leaving Saac or the plural Saccae).

The name Saccae occurs in numerous other forms besides Sakai, Sakai-Suna, Sacsina and Saxons. They were also known as Sakki, Sagettae, Massagetae, Getae, Geats, Goths, Sacai, Scyths, Scythians, Scolotoi, Scuths, Scuits and Scots. So not only is Isaac's name to be found in the modern Saxons, it is the "parent" name of all these listed names. Scotland, Skaane and Scandinavia are named after the Scythians--and thus Isaac! http://www.abcog.org/abp3a.htm

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The name Saxon is thought to derive from a type of the dagger these people carried called a “seax”. Geoffrey of Monmouth records the words of the Saxon Hengist when the Saxons turned on their B ritish hosts:

“Accordingly they all met at the time and place appointed, and began to treat of peace; and when a fit opportunity offered for executing his villany, Hengist cried out, "Nemet oure Saxas," and the same instant seized Vortigern, and held him by his cloak. The Saxons, upon the signal given, drew their daggers, and falling upon the princes, who little suspected any such design, assassinated them to the number of four hundred and sixty barons and consuls ...."”

Just because words sound similar does not mean that they share a common source. It's usually the British Israelites who suggest this connection.

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I think GS knows them on a more personal level. If he does i can understand why he wont reveal them.


ssss secrets,secrets it would be better if they were revealed.
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Owdo mac,

seeing its taking GS forever to answer I came across this little bit of info.

After the last BIG FREEZE and after the flood, which inundated the island of Atlantis that also generated the global Noah and the Ark stories, the survivors landed in the America’s, Africa, parts of the Middle East, the Canary Islands, the Azores etc. This people group was known to science as the “Adams.” The “Adams” bred into the Middle East and seeded the Canaanites. They were also called the Phoenicians and the “Sea People.” It was the “Sea People” who also transported the Tribe of Cain –Dan” into Spain, France and the British Isles from the Mediterranean Sea.

Now how much truth to it??

http://www.britam.org/HebrewTypes.html#Hebrew

Connecting the red-haired gene with RH-negative bloodline and Canaanites - The Rhesus negative factor was introduced into Europe thousands of years ago by a migrating people. Although we find a small percentage of rhesus negative people spread throughout Europe; we find a high percentage among the Basques, the Albanians, and Guanches of the Canary or Fortunate Isles. Rhesus negative Basques were one of the many groups of refugees from Atlantis and the root ‘CAN’ in CANary is a derivative of the word Cain or Canaan??

The Canary Islands and the Lost Continent of Atlantis

For centuries, even after the Spanish conquest, it was believed that the islands were the uppermost peaks of the lost continent of Atlantis of which Plato wrote in his "Timeos and Critias". http://www.ctspanish.com/communities/canary/canary.htm

Or maybe CAN ada?? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_Canada http://www.scribd.com/doc/519559/Atlantis
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/at...lantida_13.htm


http://www.burlingtonnews.net/revelations http://www.altrementi.com/mid-atl_ridge.htm

http://bataiosu.files.wordpress.com/...est-secret.pdf (The Biggest secret)



TBH if any real proof it must be in the blood or DNA.

The only DNA in blood would be the DNA contained in white blood cells as red blood cells have no nucleus and therefore no DNA.
Thanks for that LG... will keep me occupied for a while

Funnily enough I managed to bump into this if you've not seen it...

Enter the scientists of the People of the British Isles project: thanks to their efforts, this most distinctive characteristic is now opening up its mysteries for the first time. Testing their white cell samples for two of the half-dozen red-hair versions of the MC1R gene, they were able to show their frequency in each area of the British Isles. The results were intriguing.

Where one is the maximum value, they got figures of 0.16 and 0.23 for the frequencies of red-hair genes in Cornwall and Devon. The frequency in Oxfordshire was 0.07; in Sussex and Kent 0.13; in northeast England 0.11; in Lincolnshire 0.07; and in Cumbria nil. In Wales the figure was 0.21, and in Orkney a high 0.26. But the highest was in Ireland. Using data from other research studies, the team got a figure for Ireland of 0.31, confirmation of the stereotypical image of the red-haired Irishman.

The results are remarkable, as Sir Walter Bodmer, the Oxford geneticist leading the project, acknowledges: “I was amazed at them. I didn’t expect to see something like this.”

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle1290113.ece

How much truth to it?

The similarities with Phoenician jewellery, art, symbolism, dolmens, even a particular bread, burial rituals, the gods they worshipped, language and lettering, standing stones... there's just far too much.

http://www.jrbooksonline.com/pob/pob...ob_figp219.jpg

Thanks for the links again...

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THE GUANCHES OF THE CANARY ISLANDS

Off the coast of West Africa lie the Canary Islands - this region became home to a mysterious group of Nordics in antiquity who became known as the Guanches.

While it is unknown for sure how they arrived on the islands, what is known is that they shared a number of cultural characteristics with the ancient Egyptians and that their building style appears to have been replicated in South and Central America.

Like the Celtic Tocharians, the finest evidence of what these original Guanche Nordics looked like, is in the fortuitous existence of original Guanche mummies, which are on public display in that island group's national museum. The corpses on display are estimated to be between 600 and 1000 years old.

...

There is indeed a marked similarity between the step pyramids to be found on the Canary Islands and those to be found in Central and South America, strongly suggesting yet another great lost White migration, this time to Central and South America, perhaps a thousand years or more before Columbus.





Guanche mummies, with red hair and other Nordic features

However, the most stunning link between the Guanches and the Egyptians comes in the form of pyramids - the Guanches built several small step pyramids on the islands, using exactly the same model as those found in ancient Egypt and in Mesopotamia. The pyramids have an east-west alignment which also indicates that they probably had a religious purpose, associated with the rise and setting of the sun.



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ssss secrets,secrets it would be better if they were revealed.
Who is them?


I have asked a few questions on this section and some are reluctant to answer them,so yes it appears there is something being hidden.

Thats why they are called secret societies

Yes GS appears to have gone quiet unless he is really busy.TBH this whole section appears to have gone quiet on the Masonic front.

GS needs to put on his armour.

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Thanks for that LG... will keep me occupied for a while

Funnily enough I managed to bump into this if you've not seen it...

Enter the scientists of the People of the British Isles project: thanks to their efforts, this most distinctive characteristic is now opening up its mysteries for the first time. Testing their white cell samples for two of the half-dozen red-hair versions of the MC1R gene, they were able to show their frequency in each area of the British Isles. The results were intriguing.

Where one is the maximum value, they got figures of 0.16 and 0.23 for the frequencies of red-hair genes in Cornwall and Devon. The frequency in Oxfordshire was 0.07; in Sussex and Kent 0.13; in northeast England 0.11; in Lincolnshire 0.07; and in Cumbria nil. In Wales the figure was 0.21, and in Orkney a high 0.26. But the highest was in Ireland. Using data from other research studies, the team got a figure for Ireland of 0.31, confirmation of the stereotypical image of the red-haired Irishman.

The results are remarkable, as Sir Walter Bodmer, the Oxford geneticist leading the project, acknowledges: “I was amazed at them. I didn’t expect to see something like this.”

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle1290113.ece

How much truth to it?

The similarities with Phoenician jewellery, art, symbolism, dolmens, even a particular bread, burial rituals, the gods they worshipped, language and lettering, standing stones... there's just far too much.

Thanks for the links again...
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Cheers for that mac

I reckon if there is truth to the Tribes it is in the blood IMHO.

take a look at Queen Liz they say they come from the line of David and they have Rhesus neg within their blood,that says to me all those with Rhesus neg in the world are linked to the Tribes.

The regal donor of the precious stuff was Prince Charles, who has become the first member of the royal family ever to give blood, in his case, O Rh-negative.

http://www.scoreboard-canada.com/babylon-reptilians.htm

http://www.cai.org/bible-studies/que...bible-promises

Any opinions would be welcome


Former U.S Presidents

Former President Eisenhower Type O-Neg
Former President John F. Kennedy Type AB-Neg
Former President Richard Nixon Type O-Neg
Former President Bill Clinton AB-Neg
Former President George W. Bush Sr. Type A-Neg

Monarchs'

Pharaoh Ramses II Type B-Neg
Shroud Of Turin was AB-Neg
Prince Charles Type O-Neg and his late Grandmother
Queen Elizabeth Type O-Neg

Interesting Authors

Zacharia Sitchin Type Neg
Brad Steiger O-Neg
Erik Von Daniken Type O-Neg
Robert Anton Wilson Type Neg



also conspiracy researchers,apparently

Michael tasrion
david wilcock
Jordon maxwell,

I am sure there are others.

People of the British Isles are connected.

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Hi Amethyst hope your holiday is going well.

I must have missed this one,

Found some info on it.


Then after Israel's national captivity, what did the large majority of Israelites end up being called by the Persians and others? "Sacae" or "Sakai." Earlier we quoted a passage from Sharon Turner's History of the Anglo-Saxons showing part of Armenia being named "Sacsina" after them--a term parallel with the "Saxons." Let's look again at the relevant sentence here showing the development of the word "Saxon": "Sakai-Suna or the Sons of Sakai [Sakai-sons] abbreviated into Saksun, which is the same sound as Saxon, seems a reasonable etymology of the word 'Saxon'" (p. 87).

Now where did this word Sakai or Sacae come from? "SACCAE was the contemporary Middle Eastern term for Scyth and the name is believed to be a DERIVATIVE OF 'ISAAC'" (Davidy, p. 128). Doesn't it make sense, then, that "SAXONS" is simply a logical linguistic corruption of "ISAAC'S SONS."

In pronouncing the Hebrew word for Isaac, Yitzak, it is easy to see how the first syllable could be dropped over time. In American English, the first "o" in the word "oppossum" is no longer pronounced by many people. Other word corruptions are more dramatic--a "telephone" is now simply a "phone." A "refrigerator" is a "fridge." Instead of sending "facsimiles," we send "faxes." Most nicknames derive from the same shortening of words. For instance, women named Elizabeth are often called "Liz" or "Beth."

But perhaps the most poignant example of this for our purposes is what the Assyrians (whose court language was Semitic) did with the word Israel (Heb. Yisra'el). Notice how they referred to King Ahab of Israel in ancient documents: "A-ha-ab-bu Sir-'i-la-a-a" (cf. Pritchard, Ancient Near Eastern Texts Relating to the Old Testament, pp. 277-281). They clearly dropped the Yi from Yisra'el (or the "I" from Israel)! Wouldn't the same be true of Yitzak? Based on all we've seen, more than likely! The Yi would be dropped, leaving Tzak (or the "I" dropped, leaving Saac or the plural Saccae).

The name Saccae occurs in numerous other forms besides Sakai, Sakai-Suna, Sacsina and Saxons. They were also known as Sakki, Sagettae, Massagetae, Getae, Geats, Goths, Sacai, Scyths, Scythians, Scolotoi, Scuths, Scuits and Scots. So not only is Isaac's name to be found in the modern Saxons, it is the "parent" name of all these listed names. Scotland, Skaane and Scandinavia are named after the Scythians--and thus Isaac! http://www.abcog.org/abp3a.htm

I am sure rapunzel will have something to say
Yes, Rapunzel thinks you're wrong This obsession with the small and unimportant nation of Israelites annoys me somewhat.
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Yes, Rapunzel thinks you're wrong This obsession with the small and unimportant nation of Israelites annoys me somewhat.
I am researching it whatever you may think,why is it of such significance to you may I ask

The People of the British Isles did not land by parachute.

and I for one would like to know my ancestors.

You may think I am wrong but you really do not know yourself do you.

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