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Old 24-06-2016, 07:02 AM   #21
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:cheerleade r:

It's appropriate that the sun is shining.

congrats Britain
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Old 24-06-2016, 04:11 PM   #22
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1 equal vote per person is about as democratic as it gets.
but it's not. who organizes these referendums / elections?, who gets to count the votes?, who stands to benefit from xxx results?

democracy in ALL of it's guises is an illusion, one that 70% of the British voting public fell for yesterday.

democracy is a cog in the human-control-mechanism that is governed by organized religion and finance, operated by TPTB on behalf of the true leaders of our lives.

democracy is rubbish.




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Old 24-06-2016, 04:14 PM   #23
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Yes I like that, Expats will certainly be known as remainian gypsies.
what's your definition of an ex-pat?


as one myself I find your statement quite distasteful, with hint of ignorance.
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Old 24-06-2016, 06:28 PM   #24
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Lol I'm glad to have equalled the score then.

Well you do like fortune telling
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Old 24-06-2016, 07:11 PM   #25
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Non-british here, I had to log in after reading decode reality's posts to say a big "Bravo"!
I don't vote either. Democracy can be great only when it's build and shaped by the people so it can serve [b]them[b]. To do that, the people have to agree with each other and take action but nowdays they mostly do when MSM and/or the internet tells them to (and if you trust those, well, good luck). So, the system is build and shaped by others and it serves them instead of the average citizens.
Since things are the way they are, I refuse to play their game as well.
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Old 25-06-2016, 01:04 PM   #26
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Too many to quote, but thank you for the lovely comments about my film. Surprisingly, underneath all the bodge job editing and humorous tone, a hell of a lot of research and man hours goes into making them, so its always warming to know they have been well received. Thanks guys



To pick up on a couple of points raised in the thread - there is no democracy. There's no two ways about it. Democracy just simply doesn't exist, it is merely an illusion, a good one at that, but still, an illusion, an illusion to make the people think they have some sort of power, some sort of say in how they are lead.

Since ''democracy' began, you were allowed, yes allowed, but yeh you were allowed to vote for either party A or party B. But always party A and party B have been funded from the same source, which is obviously, the elite. Underneath all the jargon and minor differences between party A and party B which is there just to make people think there is a difference, underneath all that is the same objectives and exactly the same destination. It doesn't matter if you pick A or B, its going the same direction and the final stop is the same. Nowadays people have a 'choice' or Parties A, B, C, D, and sometimes party E. Its always good to chuck in the outlandish and out spoken party E as it creates more tension and a bigger divide, but still, whereas people think they have several choices to choose from and have a 'democratic choice', all the choices, all the options are funded by the same group and the objectives and destination of each choice is exactly the same. There isn't several choices, or several options, there is only option and one choice. Therefore, democracy is, and always will be, dictatorship in disguise.

Of course though, many of you already know this.

I think it was asked earlier why 'one' wouldn't take part in a vote/referendum as big as this? But I think a much better question to ask would be, why would 'one' vote/take part, join in on a system which they know, full well, to be inherently incorrect. It wouldn't make sense.

By voting in on the system, you are by design agreeing with the system, that is inescapable.

The final results probably came as abit of a shock to many, but when you get to the nitty gritty, it certainly was a win win for the powers that be, and whichever way the vote went, they were in for a treat. Obviously if Britain remained in the United States of Europe, they were wining as there would of been no alterations to the original plan and everything would of been still on course.

The advantages to the elite of out, well one or two which are blatantly sticking out at me at the the moment are that sharp thorn of the European court of human rights. Its still laughable that people believed they 'needed' a court to give them rights, but that said, those human rights did offer alot of protection to the people. With those rights soon to be gone, the merry men can't start implementing the new bill of rights, which will most likely offer people the same amount of protection as a zero hour contract.

The other is Scotland. With them voting to stay you can be sure the elite will yet again try to separate Scotland from the United Kingdom. Divide and conquer. They failed the first time but the chances now have increased tenfold so it will be full steam ahead for an independent Scotland.

I'm sure many more will come to light over the next span, but in the meantime, the people will carry on assuming they have just won a giant victory, a victory against government, power to the people, the people have spoken and all that bollox, whilst those in the know, will just sit back and spectate, and have a good old laugh at how incredibly naive some people can be.

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Old 25-06-2016, 03:08 PM   #27
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Hey pont sent that to my mate in canada, he was on the floor laughing his head off.
He said he never thought he comes acoss anyone eles who swore more than I

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Old 25-06-2016, 03:56 PM   #28
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Re my earlier comments. Wasn't meaning to rain on anyone's parade. Given the way things have been, I was very surprised to see the Brexit victory and with Cameron resigning and Corbyn possibly out, it was a truly extraordinary result.

But as I said earlier, when I see celebrations from the likes of Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage - two figures who aren't exactly anti establishment, then that ought to be sobering.

To be independent, you need a plan in place. it's like leaving a long-term job to become self-employed.
Most people, whether they wanted out or in, probably don't have any plan for 'what next' but the toffs that run the show will be likely to have more than a few. So this is why it could be rough at first. I hope it isn't, obviously.

I just got through posting something on another thread that's relevant here:

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Problem: Immigration, austerity, etc
Reaction: Something must be done
Solution: Referendum - exit those inept leaders of main parties who are so out of touch, ushering in new leadership to make the current one look like the Salvation Army.

Not saying that's what has gone on, I do believe the vote results reflected genuine majority feelings - but the above PRS narrative could be the case.

Anyone familiar with independence movements particularly in the 20th century - not all, just most - know that they don't always live up to the hype once sovereignty is achieved. The desire for independence is real - the people in charge of managing it often aren't.

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Old 25-06-2016, 04:14 PM   #29
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The choices were what they were, but there is no denying it was a democratic vote.
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