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Old 02-04-2012, 03:06 PM   #321
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Have you ever heard of ORDO AB CHAO or the ends justifies the means? If so, please apply that here.
No I have never heard of it...


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The Inquisition, the Vatican, Hitler and Stalin, to name a few, were rabid foes of Freemasonry. Nazis and fascists regarded Freemasonry as a tool of socialism. Communists viewed it as an elitist agent of bourgeois values. The Craft had already been dealt a mortal blow during the 1917 Bolshevik uprising. Fearful that clandestine lodges might have survived in Russia, Stalin, a dangerous sociopath, banned affiliation under penalty of death. Freemasonry disappeared or lay dormant in post-war satellite nations until the collapse of the Soviet Union. It is still discouraged or banned under totalitarian and theocratic regimes.

An anti-Masonic crusade now blazes on in America etc etc on two fronts, both inspired by intolerance. Fire-and-brimstone preachers can be heard haranguing against Freemasonry on AM and short-wave radio stations and in houses of worship across the land. Some of the enormities they level against the Craft are so deranged as to inhibit coherent dialogue.

More insidious, is a subtle profanation of Tolerance that took decades to bear fruit when American Freemasonry veered away from its European roots, when it ceased to be an instrument of enlightenment and social reform, when it turned inwardly and changed from a coalition of open-minded, socially progressive men (think the Founding Fathers) into a bastion of religious and political conservatism out of tune with the Craft’s original values and objectives.

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Old 15-04-2012, 02:12 PM   #322
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The Devil is lurking in the very heart of the Roman Catholic Church, the Vatican's chief exorcist claimed on Wednesday.

"He can remain hidden, or speak in different languages, or even appear to be sympathetic. At times he makes fun of me. But I'm a man who is happy in his work."


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Old 07-05-2012, 12:19 AM   #323
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Love the new avatar though.

I really like that uniform.

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Old 11-05-2012, 03:00 PM   #324
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Father Paul Seddon, the English priest who married the McCanns and baptised Madeleine, was one of a team of people who flew out to support the McCann family. He went twice and occasions acted as their spokesperson to the media. Father Seddon is a member of the clergy at Our Lady of Compassion RC church in Formby near Liverpool. Whilst in Portugal during mid-May, Father Seddon celebrated mass at Nossa Senhora da Luz church with local priest Father Jose Manuel Pacheco. On June 3rd he led an hour-long prayer vigil at the Holy Name RC Church in Fazakerly where he was formerly the Parish priest.


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Old 11-05-2012, 11:44 PM   #325
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In the book-length interview Hitchcock/Truffaut (1967), Hitchcock told fellow filmmaker François Truffaut that he thought the 1934 version was "the work of a talented amateur" but that the 1956 version was "made by a professional".


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Murray Pomerance is the author of 'An Eye for Hitchcock' (Rutgers, 2004) and professor in the Department of Sociology at Ryerson University, Toronto, Canada. Here, in exemplary scholarly fashion, he investigates the hymn scene in The Man Who Knew Too Much (1956 version) and asks why the text of the original hymn, from the Magdalene Chapel hymn book of 1791, was subtly changed.]
Hitchcock was born on 13 August 1899 in Leytonstone, London, England, the second son and youngest of three children of William Hitchcock (1862–1914), a greengrocer and poulterer, and Emma Jane Hitchcock (née Whelan; 1863–1942). Named Alfred after his father's brother, Hitchcock was raised Catholic and was sent to Salesian College (London) and the Jesuit Classic school St Ignatius' College in Stamford Hill, London. His mother and paternal grandmother were of Irish extraction. He often described his childhood as being very lonely and sheltered...


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Old 12-05-2012, 12:46 AM   #326
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Hitchcock's father died when he was 14. In the same year, Hitchcock left St. Ignatius to study at the London County Council School of Engineering and Navigation in Poplar, London. After leaving, he became a draftsman and advertising designer with a cable company called Henley's...The gravest incident that day was a direct hit on a primary school in Poplar. In the Upper North Street School at the time were a girls' class on the top floor, a boys' class on the middle floor and an infant class of about 50 students on the ground floor. The bomb fell through the roof into the girls' class; it then proceeded to fall through the boys' classroom before finally exploding in the infant class. Eighteen students were killed, of whom sixteen were aged from 4 to 6 years old. The tragedy shocked the British public at the time.



The 8th meridian west forms a great circle with the 172nd meridian east.Starting at the North Pole and heading south to the South Pole, the 8th meridian west passes through...Island of Jan Mayen...just west of the island of Mykines, Faroe Islands...just west of the island of Mingulay, Scotland...Northern Ireland...Portugal...Queen Maud Land, claimed by Norway...

The 37th parallel north is a circle of latitude that is 37 degrees north of the Earth's equatorial plane...Starting at the Prime Meridian and heading eastwards, the parallel 37° north passes through...Island of Sicily...Ionian Sea...Aegean Sea...Levitha (As of 2009, the population of the island is three - a family with one child)...Turkey...Fukushima Prefecture...Virginia...Gulf of Cádiz.


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Old 15-05-2012, 07:11 PM   #327
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The Banda della Magliana was an Italian criminal organization based in Rome, particularly active throughout the late 1970s until the early 1990s. Given by the media, the name refers to the original neighborhood, the Magliana, of most of its members.


The Banda della Magliana was involved in criminal activities during the Italian years of lead (anni di piombo). The Italian justice tied it to other criminal organizations such as the Cosa Nostra, Camorra or 'Ndrangheta, but most importantly also to neofascist activists such as the Nuclei Armati Rivoluzionari (NAR), responsible for the 1980 Bologna massacre, the secret services (SISMI) and political figures such as Licio Gelli, grand-master of the freemasonic lodge Propaganda Due (P2). Along with Gladio, the NATO clandestine anti-communist organization, P2 was involved in a strategy of tension during the years of lead which included false flag terrorist attacks. These ties, underground compared to their standard (i.e. "run-of-the-mill") activities (drug dealing, horserace betting, money laundering, etc.), have led the Banda to be related to the political events of the conflict which divided Italy into two during the Cold War, and in particular to events such as the 1979 assassination of journalist Carmine Pecorelli; the 1978 murder of former Prime minister Aldo Moro, also leader of the Christian Democracy who was negotiating the historic compromise with the Italian Communist Party (PCI); the 1982 assassination attempt against Roberto Rosone, vice-president of Banco Ambrosiano; "banker of God" Roberto Calvi's 1982 murder; and also the 1980 Bologna massacre. Finally, the mysterious disappearance of Emanuela Orlandi, a case peripherally linked to former Grey Wolves member Mehmet Ali Ağca's 1981 assassination attempt on Pope John Paul II, has also been related to the gang, though the Emanuela Orlandi case may not be connected to the "Grey Wolves", but may have been one of the "run-of-the-mill" Banda della Magliana criminal activities, the Orlandi kidnap designed specifically to persuade the legally immune Vatican Bank to restore inequitably retained funds to Banco Ambrosiano creditors.


Roberto Calvi, alias "God's Banker" in charge of Banco Ambrosiano, which main-shareholder was the Vatican Bank, was killed in London on 18 June 1982. Banco Ambrosiano, which crashed in one of the major financial scandals of the 1980s, was involved in money-laundering activities for the mafia, and allegedly in funneling funds to the Polish Solidarity trade union (Solidarność) and the Contras in Nicaragua. Ernesto Diotallevi, one of the leaders of the Banda della Magliana, is being prosecuted for Calvi's murder.


On 19 July 2005, Licio Gelli, the grand master of the Propaganda Due or P2 masonic lodge, was formally indicted by magistrates in Rome for the murder of Calvi, along with Giuseppe Calò, Ernesto Diotallevi, Flavio Carboni and Carboni's Austrian ex-girlfriend, Manuela Kleinszig. Licio Gelli, in his statement before the court, blamed figures connected with Calvi's work financing Solidarność, allegedly on behalf of the Vatican. Gelli was accused of having provoked Calvi's death in order to punish him for embezzling money from Banco Ambrosiano that was owed to him and the Mafia. The Mafia was also claimed to have wanted to prevent Calvi from revealing that Banco Ambrosiano had been used for money laundering.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...n-scandal.html


http://forum.davidicke.com/showthrea...141992&page=21

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Old 16-05-2012, 04:45 AM   #328
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[B]...The Inquisition, the Vatican, Hitler and Stalin, to name a few, were rabid foes of Freemasonry...
That's true. Except that in this same Illuminati/Secret Societies forum you will read that Hitler and Stalin were Freemasons.

Which is right?
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Old 16-05-2012, 06:09 PM   #329
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That's true. Except that in this same Illuminati/Secret Societies forum you will read that Hitler and Stalin were Freemasons.

Which is right?
You mean some people who are posting on the Illuminati/Secret Societies forum claim that Hitler and Stalin were Freemasons...that maybe due to the fact that freemasonry is a secret society...Can you actually point out the said posts...


A brilliant interview with one of the greatest researchers ever, Professor Antony Sutton, the author of Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution and Wall Street and The Rise of Hitler, where he show's how bankers, businessmen and politicans in the west supported and financed both the communist and the nazis, all according to their hegelian dialectic plan for world control.


Hegelian dialectic, usually presented in a threefold manner, was stated by Heinrich Moritz Chalybäus as comprising three dialectical stages of development: a thesis, giving rise to its reaction, an antithesis, which contradicts or negates the thesis, and the tension between the two being resolved by means of a synthesis.


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Old 17-05-2012, 08:05 AM   #330
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Lenin, Trotsky and Stalin were masons....
That is from a BOOK, Architects of Deception, a history of Freemasonry by Jyri Lina.
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Old 17-05-2012, 07:52 PM   #332
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That is from a BOOK, Architects of Deception, a history of Freemasonry by Jyri Lina.
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A couple of threads...so what....maybe you and your fellow brethren should go back to what you do the best...Trolling.

I suppose the behaviour of masons and satanists on here(forum) is a reflection of why the world is in the mess its in...



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Old 17-05-2012, 09:56 PM   #333
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I suppose the behaviour of masons and satanists on here(forum) is a reflection of why the world is in the mess its in...


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Aint that the truth

There is not one positive post from the so called FM here only double speak and jive.

When they deride and belittle the likes of your posts LG its quite clear to me your bang on the money

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Old 17-05-2012, 10:04 PM   #334
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Aint that the truth
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There is not one positive post from the so called FM here only double speak and jive.

When they deride and belittle the likes of your posts LG its quite clear to me your bang on the money

Shine on maestro
Absolutely...the only thing anyone learn's from these so called masons and their agent buddy's on this forum is how to slide, derail and troll other peoples threads...


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A couple of threads...so what....maybe you and your fellow brethren should go back to what you do the best...Trolling.

I suppose the behaviour of masons and satanists on here(forum) is a reflection of why the world is in the mess its in...

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I was simply pointing out that you say that Hitler and Stalin were not Freemasons and other people say that they were.
It is a matter of opinion.
People are allowed to have their opinion on whether or not Lenin, Stalin, Trotsky and Hitler were Freemasons.

I also have an opinion on this subject but I won't bother sharing it.
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Old 08-06-2012, 10:44 PM   #336
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"This was a crime with a sexual motive. Parties were organized, with a Vatican gendarme acting as the 'recruiter' of the girls,” Father Amorth, 85, told La Stampa newspaper.

This Catholic priest says the schoolgirl was kidnapped from the streets of central Rome in the summer of 1983 and forced to take part in sex parties.

"The network involved diplomatic personnel from a foreign embassy to the Holy See. I believe Emanuela ended up a victim of this circle."
http://www.rt.com/news/girl-vatican-sex-priest-975/
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Old 20-09-2012, 04:38 AM   #337
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Lg your post are always the most interesting on the david icke forum by far!!!!
And have provide the most vast knowledge to the di forums out of all the users.
Keep up the very fascinating info you post.
Lightgiver you live up to your name.
Thanks i have learned alot from your posts.
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Hi All.

I haven't had a chance to read through the whole thread yet - so I don't know if it's somewhere I should be treading. The reason I'm posting is: i'm currently looking into the possibility that the (then) newly founded Jesuit Order may have been associated with a Freemasonic Lodge at the time of the Reformation. Not yet being familiar, myself, with the main arguments surrounding whether the two groups are associated - I figured I'd ask here if someone could please give me an outline of them, since the matter seems to have come up recently. I have no wish to be political or divisive, I am simply wanting to get a handle on the parameters of the arguments surrounding the topic - as it will help me further direct the course of my research. Any input, from that perspective, would be greatly appreciated.

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Ephilution mentions something here in post #92 in relation to what I'm curious about. I'd read that in 1535 two Scottish Freemasonic Lodges were registered in Paris and Lyon respectively - and have ever since been wondering about a relationship between them, Loyola and Xavier, John Calvin and Joseph Nasi.

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The Bavarian Illuminati was/is nothing more than an underground proxy secret society for the Jesuits. An attention deflector, if you will, much like the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, of which its degrees were authored by Jesuits themselves.
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Hi All.

I haven't had a chance to read through the whole thread yet - so I don't know if it's somewhere I should be treading. The reason I'm posting is: i'm currently looking into the possibility that the (then) newly founded Jesuit Order may have been associated with a Freemasonic Lodge at the time of the Reformation.

Thank you.


[p.s.] Or if someone could direct me to a more appropriate thread for my question that would be great!
Hi Mata

More than likely


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