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Old 01-01-2010, 11:27 AM   #41
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Top story on Daily Mail today - all UK airports to get body scanners.

Reading the comments, most people are strongly against it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-scanners.html
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I have no objection to x-ray scanners at all, I actually want some person to look at my naked body, if they get any sexual thrill out of it, good for them.
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Old 01-01-2010, 11:50 AM   #42
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Funny how the Daily Mail scanner story has suddenly sunk much lower on the Home page. Maybe the PTB didn't like the more enlightened comments, including a mention of D.I.

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Old 01-01-2010, 01:00 PM   #43
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One good thing about this whole outrage.

To me, it seems to be the first loss of liberties that is really affecting the mood of the average man & woman on the street.

They are waking up to the idea of their liberties being eroded now, not some guy on tv, dismissed with an "I'm alright Jack" comment.

When the first naked images are leaked to the Internet, and they will be, then there will be widespread anger.

Unfortunately, until our times' 'first shot that was heard around the world' is fired, the PTB will screw things down tighter and tighter each month.

Incremental police-state NWO-brand Marxism, helped by the patsies of the world's 'useful idiot' religion (pc enough?)

Mass genocide/sterilization is as real as the sky above our heads. I hope the revolution doesn't start too late, I want to be around to see their eyes pop from their purple swollen faces when they hang.

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Old 01-01-2010, 01:07 PM   #44
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This is the best solution. Okay, if you absolutely have to fly for work reasons, then you may have to bite the bullet. But I think everyone on here at the very least, should make a pact not to fly, and specifically not to expose themselves to this demeaning treatment. Go for a break somewhere in this country, there are loads of beautiful (if cold and rainy!) places in Britain. Buy yourself something expensive instead that you wouldn't usually consider. Eat and drink really extravagantly for a couple of months. Anything but this. I just feel strongly that this is something we should not co-operate with. You will be putting your own safety and freedom at serious risk if you protest at the airport, and being strip searched in a room may not expose you to X-rays, but it is equally, if not more, demeaning, and you are putting yourself in a very vulnerable position.

Just don't go along with it.
What the hell are you talking about! Thats just rolling over and taking it. How about people take copies of the EU, US and UN declaration of universal human rights, which includes the right to life (which is infringed by forcing you to be x-rayed several times a year) and right to travel (which is infringed if you are unwilling to allow your right to life to be infringed). How about people go along and say they will not go through the things and if they are denied boarding on their flight or subjected to inhumane treatment e.g strip search or cavity search, that they will be taking the perpetrators to the european court of human rights, for me this is a line in the sand, these bastards will not take my basic right to travel from me. There is no reason that a law abiding person such as myself should be refused his basic right to travel and board a plane just because I am unwilling to submit to a dangerous and unacceptable intrusive x-ray search.

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Old 01-01-2010, 01:12 PM   #45
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The sheep will lead us all to the slaughter by accepting these measures... for our safety! Travellers can refuse to comply, but I can't escape from the huge satellite/receiver/transmitter/digital/ariel/thingy and box of wires SkyBSB attached to my outside wall.... unless I move house. I'm sure it's giving my son M.E.!! I didn't consent to it... I'm not even a Sky customer, but how can I challenge Rupert Murdoch's media empire?
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Old 01-01-2010, 01:18 PM   #46
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This is one of these issues that should be priority number one for exposing it as a False-Flag Problem Reaction Solution by the Governments.

The fact that every government since this botched attack is agreeing to have scanners in place soon (Netherlands in 3 weeks) should raise some eyebrows.

I say spread the word on this, make videos documenting the dialectic and get them spread around. I don't travel on planes much, but I'm health conscious and don't want my right to travel taken away while being blasted with unsavoury doses of radiation.

When Alex Jones went mental in 1996 for the Clinton thumbscan test for his right to travel, he had the right idea:


Nows not the time to be passive, he was angry about being thumbscanned... now we're being lined up to be put under radiation and have naked pictures of ourselves taken to FLY?

Even the most jaded of people will realise this is a complete violation of privacy.

Make a lot of noise folks, once this is, in it'll become gradually accepted and a way of life.

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Old 01-01-2010, 01:29 PM   #47
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In order to get on to a flight now at london heathrow if TPTB get everything they want in their whcih they have been trying to get up and running.

You will first have your iris scanned then all your fingerprints taken, then a full strip search by means of a deadly X-Ray machine....

Did anyone, even the mindless sheeple ever think we would see this, even the Stazi didnt go to these extremes.
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Old 01-01-2010, 01:46 PM   #48
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The sheep will lead us all to the slaughter by accepting these measures... for our safety! Travellers can refuse to comply, but I can't escape from the huge satellite/receiver/transmitter/digital/ariel/thingy and box of wires SkyBSB attached to my outside wall.... unless I move house. I'm sure it's giving my son M.E.!! I didn't consent to it... I'm not even a Sky customer, but how can I challenge Rupert Murdoch's media empire?

If person unknown (hint hint) in the dark wee small hours, kept sawing through the cables (with thick rubber gloves) they would soon pack up and move.

The police don't have the resources to place a guard there.

I know what I would do if family health was at stake.
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Old 01-01-2010, 02:26 PM   #49
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This is one of these issues that should be priority number one for exposing it as a False-Flag Problem Reaction Solution by the Governments.

The fact that every government since this botched attack is agreeing to have scanners in place soon (Netherlands in 3 weeks) should raise some eyebrows.

I say spread the word on this, make videos documenting the dialectic and get them spread around. I don't travel on planes much, but I'm health conscious and don't want my right to travel taken away while being blasted with unsavoury doses of radiation.

When Alex Jones went mental in 1996 for the Clinton thumbscan test for his right to travel, he had the right idea:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptsbCwcbrfc
First of all, there was no patriot act in 1996. Things have become a lot more strict now. In New York City you can't even film touristic home-videos for more than an hour without a permit.

I have already commented on this kind of video-activism in this thread, as well as given people practical advice on how to do it. If you haven't read that post, please go back and read it.

However, with regards to Alex Jones, please re-read what I wrote here:

Actually, that's one of my criticisms of the kind of video-activism that Alex Jones advocates: Alex Jones earns 1-2 million dollars a year, says he gives himself a monthly income of 4 000 dollars (that's about a six-fold of my income). With that kind of money, Alex and his crew can buy the lawyers they need in case of an arrest. Alex Jones can afford 250 eu an hour activists' lawyers. A regular citizen like me can't. Furthermore, if Alex gets arrested while engaged in video-activism, it will be front-page news at infowars.com and this estimated audience of 3 million people will see it. If 1% of those 3 million people try to call the police-station where he's held to protest his arrest, that's 30 000 calls, the equivalent of an effective phone-bomb. If I get arrested, will anyone here even care to call the police-station I'm held at? Will anyone even know I'm arrested? Or will I just disappear into a black hole? The point I'm trying to make is that the kind of activism that Alex Jones engages in is not for everyone. Alex's activism isn't just a function of courage, it's also a function of money and popularity, and I don't have that money or popularity.

Those who do have the money and popularity, by all means engage in this kind of video-activism. You are the ones with the longer leash, please help those of us with the shorter leash.


Alex Jones' video activism might look cool and spectacular on a Youtube video, but it is not for everyone. You can rest assured that Alex, like any self-conscious video-activist, has consulted with lawyers on what he's able to get away with before he takes on such a video-project. Alex Jones makes it look spontaneous to the lay person, but a trained eye like mine can tell that a lot of preparation goes into the organization of such a video-moment. It's not all improvised on the spot, it's prepared. It might seem improvised to you, but trust me, it's not. So - pardon me - don't be a dumb-ass about video-activism. Be serious about it.

If you have the money to perform the project I detailed in my previous contribution, by all means do, but don't look down on those of us who don't have the kind of money Alex has to pay for lawyers. Those with the money can do the video-activism and the legal activism, the rest of us can do other things.
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I have been contributing to the comments on the daily mail website

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-scanners.html
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Funny how the Daily Mail scanner story has suddenly sunk much lower on the Home page. Maybe the PTB didn't like the more enlightened comments, including a mention of D.I.

Why did they publish it then?

Degrading though it is, there's far more sinister motives behind these scanners than exposing private parts, but reading most of the comments in favour of them, you would think that is all we're complaining about.
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Old 01-01-2010, 04:07 PM   #53
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I have been contributing to the comments on the daily mail website

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-scanners.html
Wow! There are TONS of genuine 100% InfoWars/Icke/Rense-grade comments on there! Such comments used to be shouted down as tin-foil-hat, ridiculed for sport. Now THEY ARE THE MAJORITY

We are winning the infowar at least...

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Old 01-01-2010, 05:15 PM   #56
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well i for one wont be subjected to this shit....

I let my passport run out last year as i refuse to be treated as a suspect

for their stupid penis envy game being played before my very eyes

I never really found it much fun waiting at airports and im done travelling

until they sort it out.....

I was once apprehended at a u.s airport and scottish one on return journey

for a £20 fine i (oops) forgot to pay off......escorted by 2 twits in uniform

like some kind of gangster through customs and into a van.....i was on my

and humiliated and unsure of the amount of attention i got.......
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First of all, there was no patriot act in 1996. Things have become a lot more strict now. In New York City you can't even film touristic home-videos for more than an hour without a permit.

I have already commented on this kind of video-activism in this thread, as well as given people practical advice on how to do it. If you haven't read that post, please go back and read it.

However, with regards to Alex Jones, please re-read what I wrote here:

Actually, that's one of my criticisms of the kind of video-activism that Alex Jones advocates: Alex Jones earns 1-2 million dollars a year, says he gives himself a monthly income of 4 000 dollars (that's about a six-fold of my income). With that kind of money, Alex and his crew can buy the lawyers they need in case of an arrest. Alex Jones can afford 250 eu an hour activists' lawyers. A regular citizen like me can't. Furthermore, if Alex gets arrested while engaged in video-activism, it will be front-page news at infowars.com and this estimated audience of 3 million people will see it. If 1% of those 3 million people try to call the police-station where he's held to protest his arrest, that's 30 000 calls, the equivalent of an effective phone-bomb. If I get arrested, will anyone here even care to call the police-station I'm held at? Will anyone even know I'm arrested? Or will I just disappear into a black hole? The point I'm trying to make is that the kind of activism that Alex Jones engages in is not for everyone. Alex's activism isn't just a function of courage, it's also a function of money and popularity, and I don't have that money or popularity.

Those who do have the money and popularity, by all means engage in this kind of video-activism. You are the ones with the longer leash, please help those of us with the shorter leash.


Alex Jones' video activism might look cool and spectacular on a Youtube video, but it is not for everyone. You can rest assured that Alex, like any self-conscious video-activist, has consulted with lawyers on what he's able to get away with before he takes on such a video-project. Alex Jones makes it look spontaneous to the lay person, but a trained eye like mine can tell that a lot of preparation goes into the organization of such a video-moment. It's not all improvised on the spot, it's prepared. It might seem improvised to you, but trust me, it's not. So - pardon me - don't be a dumb-ass about video-activism. Be serious about it.

If you have the money to perform the project I detailed in my previous contribution, by all means do, but don't look down on those of us who don't have the kind of money Alex has to pay for lawyers. Those with the money can do the video-activism and the legal activism, the rest of us can do other things.
Excuse me? What the fuck is your problem?

I was merely pointing out an example of how you could go about being pissed off at the body-scanners and developing a bit of awareness.

Heaven forbid, are you another Alex Jones is a JESUIT GATEKEEPER idiot? Or he's just in it for the money? (All DVD's and content are free on the web? Explain. Since when was it free to own property and develop a radio show and massive website, does it run on fairy juice and rainbows? We live in a capitalist system, he needs money to sustain himself.... or would you rather he tanked and we just had any old idiot up there spouting religious nonsense.)

You don't need money and fame to do anything, you could be just as effective on a video-phone and a loud mouth. It's about charisma, it draws you in. Youtube is famous for people with nothing more than a house and a webcam and doing there thing. One thing I learned in web-design... it doesn't matter how much money you sink into a design, it's about CONTENT. If you have the content, and it's gold -- the people flock.

Infact, why the hell are you attacking me? I wasn't pointing fingers at anyone here, it was a suggestion. It wasn't a reply to your post, I didn't even read it anyway, it was in relation to the OP.

Was Alex on 2 million a year or whatever in 1996 then? Please. Where do you all get these figures anyway? Icke earns £6,000,000 a year in booksales and publicity...... no wait, that's just bullshit. See how easy that is on here?

I'm very aware and have a trained eye as well (what the hell does that even mean or have to do with what I said anyway?)... you think I implied Alex just woke up one day, put on his best suit, phoned a few friends and a guy with a camera and decided "Right, I'm going to cause a scene down at a police station for publicity".

Or could it be just what it was? Highlighting an issue with publicity, sounding the alarm.

Clearly it was arranged! You'd have to be a lunatic to go barging into somewhere with a camera and start screaming for no reason.

Pretty elementary to even have to bring that up, did anyone else think otherwise?

Unfortunately for you, Alex happens to be popular... and for all the CIA-JESUIT-REPTILOID-BACKSTABBING-ROMAN EMPIRE-GATEKEEPER-EARNS MILLIONS crap... his videos have a good message which I cannot fault. I honestly think most people are jealous of his position. He's on the right side of history,

We'd all like to be saviours and heroes.

And we could... if posts like yours would stop bitching and assuming stuff about me, which you have NO clue about in the first place and aren't even fit to comment on.

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They've had these at Domodedova Airport Moscow, Russia for years already! Very worrying move if this goes global (which of course it will!).

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On a more practical note, what happens if us ladies are caught wearing tampax?
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the scanners can't see your insides....yet.

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