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Old 07-10-2011, 01:39 PM   #21
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Members and guests, do not be blinded by sweeping calls of scientific papers and evidence... Drug companies finance studies, finance media, finance fecking regulators and place pressure on anything that upset their excessive greed for money and keeping us ill so they can make money from our need for help...disgusting parasites of the world who's time is almost up.

Please go and research yourself, watch, read and study hard...you will get to the truth.
Pretty much... asking the 'establishment' for an honest view on alternative medicines, especially if its about cancer($), is like asking for a new (genuine) 9-11 investigation... not gonna happen.
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Old 07-10-2011, 01:43 PM   #22
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Pretty much... asking the 'establishment' for an honest view on alternative medicines, especially if its about cancer($), is like asking for a new (genuine) 9-11 investigation... not gonna happen.
Its like asking the fox if the chicken coup is secure

Its frustrating as hell, not for me but for new people coming in here and looking for alternatives to be met with the same crap and links to sites that are 1000 times more dubious that what they accuse the alternative community of.

I am not saying all the info is correct in natural cures but I am pretty damn sure we are being screwed big time for cash..their god!!

Food with its array of goodies (non-processed, organic, natural) is our cure and prevention and they bloody well know it is. They are the quacks if they think this is going to continue much longer!!
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Old 07-10-2011, 02:47 PM   #23
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Sure, by all means, if you don't like the quackwatch site (which I agree has a very negative tone), then go read the research paper for yourself. It's a real paper, based on real research.

You need to understand that, although pharmaceutical companies fund research, not all research is funded by them, and they cannot always buy results. Why? Because scientists are usually very myopic, independent-minded, and often idealistic people, and they won't always cooperate with that crap.

Pharm companies do their best work by keeping their scientists ignorant of certain facts, and hoping that they won't come up with the right questions to ask on their own. No Pharm company would be LIKELY to fund research into whether or not IV vitamin C is effective against cancer, but that isn't the world's most expensive research project, and funding can come from elsewhere. (It was done--and it failed in rodents, so we need to rethink our premises on that one).

I have suggestion for people who feel they have a real stake in all of this:

Scientists do not care where their research money comes from, for the most part. If you were to set up an organization that collected donations from the public, and had the sole purpose of funding scientific research into alternative treatments for cancer, and low-cost treatments for other serious ailments as well, I can assure you--you would find reputable, well-trained scientists who aren't affiliated with anyone who would be willing to take on the task of doing that research. Gladly.

Big Pharm has deep pockets, but that's not always the most important thing to research scientists. You will find that many of them are just as frustrated by their inability to get funding for research into lower-cost solutions as you are watching those solutions fail to be researched. All it takes is enough money to fund those projects.

Instead of getting all paranoid about how the big bad scientists are out to get you, HIRE them. They want you to. They want to find the truth, that's why they got into science. No one gets rich off of being a research scientist.
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Old 07-10-2011, 09:59 PM   #24
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Old 07-10-2011, 10:52 PM   #25
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Old 08-10-2011, 12:06 AM   #26
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Members and guests, do not be blinded by sweeping calls of scientific papers and evidence... Drug companies finance studies, finance media, finance fecking regulators and place pressure on anything that upset their excessive greed for money and keeping us ill so they can make money from our need for help...disgusting parasites of the world who's time is almost up.

Please go and research yourself, watch, read and study hard...you will get to the truth.
So do they finance false studies that show 'natural' cures to be false?
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Old 08-10-2011, 12:45 AM   #27
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My gran got diagnosed and given 2 weeks to live. My family colluded with the doctor and didnt tell her. 28 year later she died of a stroke still unaware she had anything.

My uncle was told he'd likely had it for years when he complained of a twinge in his back. A few weeks later he died.


I've always wondered about the power of the mind and illness. There has to be something to it. Maybe if these people believe these 'cures' work, then it sometimes does. Anyone looking for them is most likely beyond hope in doctors eyes, hence the looking for an alternative to mainstream medicine.
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Old 08-10-2011, 07:57 AM   #28
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So do they finance false studies that show 'natural' cures to be false?
Ever seen Burzynski The Movie? There's your absolute unquestionable truth that yes, the government and big pharma absolutely 100% DO collude fund trials of alternatice treatments with the intent of sabotaging and discrediting them.

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My gran got diagnosed and given 2 weeks to live. My family colluded with the doctor and didnt tell her. 28 year later she died of a stroke still unaware she had anything.

My uncle was told he'd likely had it for years when he complained of a twinge in his back. A few weeks later he died.


I've always wondered about the power of the mind and illness. There has to be something to it. Maybe if these people believe these 'cures' work, then it sometimes does. Anyone looking for them is most likely beyond hope in doctors eyes, hence the looking for an alternative to mainstream medicine.
My Granda was the same, my family were told he had an aggressive cancer and only a few months to live, they decided it'd be best not to tell him. 5 years later he was still alive, untreated.

They were probably used to people dying after a few months with similar cancers because they took the chemo and radiation.
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Old 08-10-2011, 07:59 AM   #29
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There was a woman in the film "the gerson miracle" who went to mexico for laetrile and sodium bicarb injections. her tumors continued to grow, so she took conventional therapy and died later.
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Old 08-10-2011, 12:27 PM   #30
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Apricot kernals...Colloidal silver...That shit ent gonna cure cancer, its irresponsible to claim so.
I can see where the s.bicarb angle is coming from, maybe this can help somewhat.
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Old 08-10-2011, 12:33 PM   #31
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Ever seen Burzynski The Movie? There's your absolute unquestionable truth that yes, the government and big pharma absolutely 100% DO collude fund trials of alternatice treatments with the intent of sabotaging and discrediting them.
No point in asking winegums and her/his ilk to watch anything that could possibly threaten her/his 'comfortable pharma box' ..... the change would break her/him. Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.

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Old 08-10-2011, 02:45 PM   #32
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we tried b17 both in apricot kernel and sythesized form, high dosage vitamin c infusions (100 grammes daily !!), magnet-resonance therapy, radionics,auric surgery, rife ultrasound machines, breuss juice diet and homemade hemp oil a la rick simpson, the only thing that happened was prolong a 3-months to live prognosis into horrible 6 months. In retrospect, we should have travelled the world and made most of the time we had left.

I can't be arsed with those people copying & pasting url's and youtube video with their "this cures cancer" attitude with absolutely no first-hand fucking knowledge.

When your time's up.. your time is up, so make the most of every fucking day between now and then.
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we tried b17 both in apricot kernel and sythesized form, high dosage vitamin c infusions (100 grammes daily !!), magnet-resonance therapy, radionics,auric surgery, rife ultrasound machines, breuss juice diet and homemade hemp oil a la rick simpson, the only thing that happened was prolong a 3-months to live prognosis into horrible 6 months. In retrospect, we should have travelled the world and made most of the time we had left.

I can't be arsed with those people copying & pasting url's and youtube video with their "this cures cancer" attitude with absolutely no first-hand fucking knowledge.

When your time's up.. your time is up, so make the most of every fucking day between now and then.
Hi, can I ask what strain of Cannabis did you use to make the oil and how much was ingested each day? Also how many Apricot Kernals were eaten daily? Did you try the alternative methods after conventional ways as a 'last resort'?
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Ever seen Burzynski The Movie? There's your absolute unquestionable truth that yes, the government and big pharma absolutely 100% DO collude fund trials of alternatice treatments with the intent of sabotaging and discrediting them.
Reading about it, it appears he's won out in the courts anyway (but I guess that's a bluff from TPTB, who obviously control everything and thus could rule his trial one way or the other). Jury is out on the efficacy of his treatment, but the only thing that has been stopped is people using unproven treatments for medicine, which is what you'd want a government agency to do anyway.

I don't have time to watch a 2h documentary, so if you have some relatively brief written element to point me to to explain your point further that'd be fine.
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I'm not a doctor, but from I've read and really believe in, is that toxins built-up in our body have a lot to do with cancer, and other illnesses which develop in an acidic environment.

Drinking water helps eliminate these toxins and also brings oxygen to our body:

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Drinking water helps Prevent Cancer:

Dehydration, which is a shortage of water and salt, suppresses the immune system and the activity of its disease-fighting cells in the body.

Cancer cells are killed by oxygen. Being anaerobic organisms, they must leave in low oxygen environment. When the body is well hydrated and the salt expands the volume of blood circulation to reach parts of the body, the oxygen and the active immune cells in the blood reach the cancerous tissue and destroy it. Read more about the benefits of drinking water
I also know and believe that stress is one of the main culprits on the acidity of our body

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Here is ( 3 min video ). it sums up pretty good.
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