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Old 29-07-2016, 07:54 AM   #41
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Well enjoy your love affair with those newly arrived in your country, I hope it turns out to be a match made in heaven , but I fear it might be an abusive relationship.
Poll...."22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified"..... http://www.pewresearch.org/files/old...ns.pdf#page=60
Well, even if those poll results are accurate it still means that 78% of young Muslims think that suicide bombings are NOT justified. But you are correct that 22% is a lot. Still, we must always keep in mind that the Muslims are just pawns in a game to the powers that should never be - just like we are. We shouldn't let ourselves be played off against each other, although that's easier said than done when you hear about terrorist attacks on nearly a daily basis. Most of those may be staged or false flags, but that doesn't change the perceptions they create among the population because the vast majority of that population still let their sense of reality be dictated by cnn, bbc or their "newspaper." That's why it's disappointing that Infowars, perhaps the largest of what is supposed to be an alternative to all that is becoming ever more just a (even) louder version of Fox.
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Old 29-07-2016, 08:11 AM   #42
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I've just watched that video from Allen ....and it's very sad this division has crept into the truther community... with vitriolic attacks leveled at PJW , when he's trying to stop the NWO, just as we all are ...

Basically allen's objection seems to be that PJW is highlighting muslim attacks in Europe and sarcastically calling islam "the religion of peace".

PJW is trying to draw peoples attention to what's going on , get them motivated to arrest politicians , and close the borders , infowars is very clear on this .

What do Allen and Icke think we should do?
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Old 29-07-2016, 10:37 AM   #43
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Curious little coincidence that Infowars and Red Ice have very similar logos that resemble a black sun. Both programs radically switched their narratives at about roughly the same time (2013/2014) towards a more statist, neo-fascist, reactionary format. Things that make you go hmmm.



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Old 29-07-2016, 10:49 AM   #44
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All the blatant Stratfor connections should raise a massive red flag:

https://fitzinfo.wordpress.com/2014/...or-connection/

The guy featured on several of Steve Jackson's "Illuminati" cards appears to be a dead ringer for Jones. Any sensible person cannot ignore this stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXLcfSLKVGI
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Old 29-07-2016, 11:30 AM   #45
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Curious little coincidence that Infowars and Red Ice have very similar logos that resemble a black sun. Both programs radically switched their narratives at about roughly the same time (2013/2014) towards a more statist, neo-fascist, reactionary format. Things that make you go hmmm.
I've never heard anything so ridiculous ...Now people who are exposing the take down of the west through immigration are neo-fascist. Where have I heard that before (MSM)

The archons and MSM are working overtime !!! whispering in peoples ears , making them turn on their comrades .

Infowars and Redice are the resistance to the NWO ....Get a grip people !!

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Old 29-07-2016, 12:11 PM   #46
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All diversion and misdirection by design to keep people chasing ghosts while the real perps go unnoticed. Let's not be gullible. Pick up Icke's last book "The Perception Deception". There's a chapter in there called "Archon Alternative Media" which describes Jones and Co.'s tactics with deft accuracy. So obvious a blind man could see it.
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Old 29-07-2016, 12:18 PM   #47
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Infowars and Redice are the *controlled* resistance to the NWO ....Get a grip people !!

There, I fixed it for you

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Old 30-07-2016, 03:16 PM   #48
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He's angry that western civilization is being destroyed before our eye's and no body seems to care ..... it hasn't effected most peoples lives yet , so they're still distracted and comfortable. He's shouting , exasperated , angry, that this is happening , he's trying to shake them awake!

A calm, reasoned presentation doesn't work , or reflect the insanity of what is happening ..... that the response to the latest German terror attacks is a plan for compulsory Islamic classes for all school children !!!

We all have room for improvement, PJW is a young man ,doing the most difficult of jobs... under constant attacks and death threats , He doesn't need additional aggro from the truther community!
I think like any group that even truthers have their own favourites and anybody who tells a different story is a heretic, an outsider. There are always ego's that dont like to be disagreed with.

Lets face it, David Icke doesnt do all of his presentations with an air of love about him. I remember him on TV being presented with the results of a psychological experiment to see what type of people tend to believe conspiracy theories and he basically blew up in the guys face. He barely let the guy speak, just cut him straight down without any attempt to debate the results.
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Old 30-07-2016, 03:17 PM   #49
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I've just watched that video from Allen ....and it's very sad this division has crept into the truther community... with vitriolic attacks leveled at PJW , when he's trying to stop the NWO, just as we all are ...

Basically allen's objection seems to be that PJW is highlighting muslim attacks in Europe and sarcastically calling islam "the religion of peace".

PJW is trying to draw peoples attention to what's going on , get them motivated to arrest politicians , and close the borders , infowars is very clear on this .

What do Allen and Icke think we should do?
Maybe they think you should just listen to them
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Old 30-07-2016, 03:22 PM   #50
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So much black and white thinking, so much bias, so much prejudice. Do people ever consider that there are other sides to the story, or that there may not be a single truth.
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Old 30-07-2016, 04:20 PM   #51
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So much black and white thinking, so much bias, so much prejudice. Do people ever consider that there are other sides to the story, or that there may not be a single truth.
As Obi Wan says, truth depnds on our point of view
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Old 30-07-2016, 10:49 PM   #52
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How often have you heard Alex Jones or Paul Joseph Watson or any other of the Infowars Staff talk about love? I just don't receive any positive vibrations from them, in my opinion all they do is massive fear mongering, hating and dividing the people.
This is the sentiment that was driven hard at the Democratic convention and inauguration of Hillary as nominee. It was all about love and friendship, warm and fuzzy videos, talking about how great things are. Carole King was resurrected to sing "You got a friend" while the paid seat sitters clutched and waved their hands in the air.

The media pundits talked about the unifying convention and compared it to Trump's " dark " convention.

The people who attended are telling a different story on social media. Pretty much it was opposite world with thousands of angry protesters at DNC. Etc etc

If I was to narrow it all down, it is people who want their borders closed (doors on their home) are being called hateful and racist and that, I think, is emotional manipulation. People just want an effing door on their house and not have it be a free for all, and, believe it, or not, the want the same for you and are trying to reach you.
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I have always wondered what the saying "don't pee on my leg and tell me that it's raining" meant. Now I know.
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Old 31-07-2016, 08:53 AM   #54
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Curious little coincidence that Infowars and Red Ice have very similar logos that resemble a black sun. Both programs radically switched their narratives at about roughly the same time (2013/2014) towards a more statist, neo-fascist, reactionary format.


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Things that make you go hmmm.
That is a sharp and interesting observation, like OP reaction to this is remarkable ... and who obviously have more interest in chasing ghosts in a Asian jungle with PJW to take care of such a minor detail ...



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I never liked Paul Joseph Watson of InfoWars in the least because he came across as a Zio shill about two years ago. In fact, his elevation seemed to mark a new, dark phase for InfoWars, which at one time did play a role in my awakening.

The tip off for me on Watson was his over focus on agitprop lies involving Muslim demonization and fake “jihadist” narratives. He constantly plays into it. His commentary was never thoughtful. He never says a word about the neoCohens burning down the Middle East. Watson puts forth the lie that the destabilization of Muslim homelands is somehow “organic.” It is not. It is the outcome of decades of Zionist supremacist scheming.

For example, the neoCohens’ takedown of Libya’s Gaddafi, which I discussed early this week, was a horrific Zio plot and crime that opened the floodgates for a weaponized migrant war on Europe. Did Watson address this aspect? Alex Jones at least touches upon this with half truths. Not Watson though, not one iota.
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Old 31-07-2016, 03:37 PM   #56
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Since Hillary Clinton had a hand in the destruction of the Middle East; it would be the right thing for her to do if she took the $25 million that Saudi royalty gave her and invest it in the reparations of her victims and their homelands. Better yet, the Saudis should have given the money directly to her victims, instead of paying her. It would be good if Saudi Arabia took in refugees themselves instead of bribing foreign leaders, who pocket the money and put the burden on people who did not want wars or meddling in the first place. The solutions that make the most sense are avoided in favor of further disruptions and chaos. What's up with that and why should we allow this game to be played when it benefits no one but those who caused the problems in the first place? There is something else going on here.

ETA: I know the Saudis have plenty of money to throw around, but when they prefer to buy up chunks of western media, instead of helping their Muslim neighbors, it shows that their priorities are crooked, to say the least.

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What mystifies me is how David can be so critical of Trump (hey I'm not sold on him either) but praised Jeremy Corbyn for "saying things that make the establishment furious". If anyone was more blatantly a shill it was Corbyn of the Labour Party which was established by the Fabian Society. And I don't really get the comparisons of some of these sites as "reactionary, neo-facism"... Love and Light isn't gonna save us, and expecting the "world to come together as one" is extremely naive, and well, extremely New World Orderish to me...
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What mystifies me is how David can be so critical of Trump (hey I'm not sold on him either) but praised Jeremy Corbyn for "saying things that make the establishment furious". If anyone was more blatantly a shill it was Corbyn of the Labour Party which was established by the Fabian Society. And I don't really get the comparisons of some of these sites as "reactionary, neo-facism"... Love and Light isn't gonna save us, and expecting the "world to come together as one" is extremely naive, and well, extremely New World Orderish to me...
I think Corbyn was saying things that should be said a while back, but then he started bowing down to the establishment. He won't be able to stop bowing down to them now. I think anyone who tries to do the right things in politics will be made to conform to the establishments will. I don't know why Corbyn bothered with it for all these decades, though I'm glad he did.

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I agree to an extent (only because I abhor socialism) but Trump is saying similar things, one could argue, that "angers the establishment". Icke is correct in saying that we can't fix things in the system. Only total non-compliance with the system and a "system" based on anarchy (an-archons or "without rulers") with a focus on Personal Responsibility is the real solution. Unfortunately, that's trying to teach calculus to people learning fractions... All I'm saying is that he trashes Trump but praised Corbyn. I don't get it.

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So, we have the mainstream left battling the mainstream right and now the alternative left battling the alternative right, haven't we learned anything ? God help us is all I can say.
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