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Old 19-01-2010, 11:09 PM   #1
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Default How prepared are you

Firstly I'm not ex or current military, all my skills are self learnt through practical needs for numerous reasons,in them days I was just a normal geeza, after many cold and damp experiences I decided to invest in some basic kit that is permanently in my grab bag.

Small input from me inspired by tracker. copy'd from word pad no spell checker so sorry for any typos.


I will have to start with down sides of surviving Mother nature and the Human response,firstly fatigue and moral,as early as 48 hrs of no more grazing on ones daily bread etc(btw no rations for the first 24 hrs mandatory in a survival context) weekness sets in feeling feeble uninterested in getting out of the scratcher whatever or where ever that may be.

Fire first.......... to be kept going 24 7 in a permanant camp

In a disaster event there is no choice other than to carry on especially if you are the Alfa among your group and have less motivated or dependent individuals waiting to be guided, get your boots on, get a fire started you will be suprised how much this will lift Moral if you have no Bic or matches it will take a little work, lots of techniques.

If you cant make a fire you must learn, in the long run this is essential for any kind of a life.

My fire kit.....http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/9931/dscf2255q.jpg

As you can see the kit includes everything bar the water to make a brew.

In a permanant camp a fire keeps us warm sterilises water and cooks the food it also gives us somthing to stare at.
It will demand attention like a living thing, it will need FUEL, HEAT, and AIR to exist.
Remember if the fire wont start its a lack of one of these three things.

It takes a lot of practice to make fire consistantly so I would recommend trying asap dont wait for D day to test the equipment , there no time like the present this could be in the garden or the woods as long as its outside, try this in the wet for the hard core,its usually when you will need it the most.

For wet starting keep some cut up inner tube in the fire kit, it will give a flame even when its wet.

Once you have mastered the art of making fire everything else will fall into place.
Without a fire the survivers life is cold wet and damp, dark vulnarable and scary.

So the prepared has a fire kit they know how to use along with some high energy nourishment,kendal cake is good but tasts crap so chocolate is my choice, but it dont stay in the tin long so I must replace it from time to time now the Mrs knows its there lol.

Heres a vid from the master...
Anyone else out there got more than a bookmark on the pc if so post a pic lets see your kit and maybe inspire others to become proficient in survival.
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Old 20-01-2010, 06:51 AM   #2
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bumping this thread so that I can get back to it in detail later .

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Old 20-01-2010, 07:14 AM   #3
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looks like a nice little kit, all i will say is become obsessed with weight keep enhancing your pack - i am constantly doing mine - riplock bags are good know the ones for sandwiches - cause you can zip lock them and leave a little bit open squeeze the air out then close it easy - i even keep all my rope in one cause it keeps it compacted aswell!

they are also easy to open when you have freezing hands and gloves on - as a knot in a plastic bag is a arse ache

things like that helps loads!
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Old 20-01-2010, 02:54 PM   #4
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Great thread this.

My current kit is afew film tubs or tablet tubs (like paracetamol tubs) filled with cotton balls. A tub of Vaseline or petroleum jelly to soak the cotton balls in, and a lighter/matches candles and a couple of firesteels. This one here is a good firesteel -
Also you can buy "firelighters" from most supermarkets and they tend to be quite good and burn for a while.

As anyone tried the trioxane feul tablets too? i have never tried any but they look good.

I am also after a better lighter too......

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Old 20-01-2010, 11:59 PM   #5
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Hey guys i just bought a nice lightweight bit of kit off ebay for £14.45

Its 10cm x 14cm and weighs 250 grams so its very lightweight. Perfect for a grab and go bag. It has the following contents-

Water carrier
Salt sachet
Wire saw
Snare
multi tool (scissors etc)
Waterproof matches
Brass match container
Adhesive bandages
Pencil
Fishing hook
Mirror (on back of lid)
Flint
Steel firelighter
Striker
Safety pins
Dressing
Razor blade
ID whistle
Cotton wool
Sewing kit
Candle
Vinyl tape
Button compass

You can find it here-

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Old 21-01-2010, 02:30 PM   #6
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These are some of the tools i have in my camping/survival kit.........

I dont know how good them wire saws are but these are excellent saws aswell -
You could cut down decent size trees with it and i have cut through some big logs.


These are very good and solid.
http://www.coldsteel-uk.com/store/Sp...es-Shovel.html


http://www.coldsteel-uk.com/store/Kukhri-Machete.html

I havent had that ^ for that long but so far it seems quite good.


http://www.firesteel.co.uk/Frosts%20Mora%20Knives.htm

Another one ^ which seems very good fror the price.
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These are some of the tools i have in my camping/survival kit.........

I dont know how good them wire saws are but these are excellent saws aswell -http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Hand-Held-Chai...item5ad43d4ec8

You could cut down decent size trees with it and i have cut through some big logs.


These are very good and solid.
http://www.coldsteel-uk.com/store/Sp...es-Shovel.html


http://www.coldsteel-uk.com/store/Kukhri-Machete.html

I havent had that ^ for that long but so far it seems quite good.


http://www.firesteel.co.uk/Frosts%20Mora%20Knives.htm

Another one ^ which seems very good fror the price.
I fecking love that machete it looks like it will hold its edge for a long time

erthiz I checked out the ebay source looks very good value for renewing the matches a cheap option is swan vesta matches diped in melted candle wax

For a decent lighter very difficult to beat a Zippo
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Thanks for the tip il keep it in mind
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looks like a nice little kit, all i will say is become obsessed with weight keep enhancing your pack - i am constantly doing mine - riplock bags are good know the ones for sandwiches - cause you can zip lock them and leave a little bit open squeeze the air out then close it easy - i even keep all my rope in one cause it keeps it compacted aswell!

they are also easy to open when you have freezing hands and gloves on - as a knot in a plastic bag is a arse ache

things like that helps loads!
like the ziplock bags though I havent seen them here, mabe I will now, defo invest in some of them .

so true about the freezing hand bit I have actually pissed on my hands before now just to get my fingers moving to light a fire
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I fecking love that machete it looks like it will hold its edge for a long time
Cold Steel Kukri Machete Destruction test. Part 1

Check out the vids mate, Thats what made me buy it, i have used it afew times and seems quite good.

The sheath is not the best and when you get it, it needs sharpening a little but other than that its allright

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Cheers, ill have a look.

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Old 24-01-2010, 10:47 AM   #11
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Here's a link to a site with an in depth guide to survival.

Some great topics on the forum.

http://www.extremesurvival.net/
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It doesnt matter how much food clothing fire or hard stock you have, without good clean water life is a no go'er and will require some form of foraging or collection from a source, I'v lived "in the woods" a number of occasions and will never repeat my first foray of finding a location via just a map I made a right plonka of myself in thinking the stream on the ordinance survey map would supply me with a source of water, WRONG it was early spring and the two inch wide stream dried up 4 weeks into the camping expedition: this was long enough to build a bender clear the camp-site and generally create a top class residence only to be forced to move because of no water, at first I would treck over 3 miles to a river then do the same back water weighs ten pounds a gallon and after 6 days of this I could not replace the lost energy with my food stocks and became very weak,not only did I have to undo all of my earlier work, I had to do it all again this time without the optimism and pre-stored energy's,it made the whole experience quite serious and life threatening through silly mistakes like when using knives and cutting tools,I still have the scars!! one from my axe and one from my buck knife both injuries happened through lack of concentration,this I can put down to the weakened state I left myself in through the water issue.

Below is a pic of my grab bag, these things are always first into camp and they include a cheap water filter some h2o2 "peroxide" and a colloidal silver generator these can make shite water drinkable and are great for the GB as they don't need to be replaced if they are not needed for a while.

potassium permanganate and bleach will also purify water but even on a semi perminant basis a constant water source is essential.

solar stills or a guttering system depend largely on weather conditions and cant be relied on for water every day

Also in the kit but out of shot are my set of dowsing rods

You will always be "edgy" or not relaxed if the lay up point has no permanent source available

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/2277/dscf2289b.jpg


Not included in the pic is my axe, first aid kit, and wind up radio.
Oh also my hammock the ONLY way to kip in the woods IMO


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Looks like TPTB are getting ready just in case of any eventuality


The pictures contained in this video are a collection from a collaborated group of anonymous hackers and personal researchers, I therefore cannot confirm the legitimacy of ALL of the pictures within... however, MANY of the pictures are legitimate photo's of actual D.U.M.B's and the diggers used to make them. The objective of this video is to bring this subject into the open and to show that the technology exists as do the facilities... and we're the ones paying for it!
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Looks like TPTB are getting ready just in case of any eventuality

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEDAE_9v4h0

The pictures contained in this video are a collection from a collaborated group of anonymous hackers and personal researchers, I therefore cannot confirm the legitimacy of ALL of the pictures within... however, MANY of the pictures are legitimate photo's of actual D.U.M.B's and the diggers used to make them. The objective of this video is to bring this subject into the open and to show that the technology exists as do the facilities... and we're the ones paying for it!
If this dudes right even these elites may get buried

1st of 16 vids well worth a watch

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It doesnt matter how much food clothing fire or hard stock you have, without good clean water life is a no go'er and will require some form of foraging or collection from a source, I'v lived "in the woods" a number of occasions and will never repeat my first foray of finding a location via just a map I made a right plonka of myself in thinking the stream on the ordinance survey map would supply me with a source of water, WRONG it was early spring and the two inch wide stream dried up 4 weeks into the camping expedition: this was long enough to build a bender clear the camp-site and generally create a top class residence only to be forced to move because of no water, at first I would treck over 3 miles to a river then do the same back water weighs ten pounds a gallon and after 6 days of this I could not replace the lost energy with my food stocks and became very weak,not only did I have to undo all of my earlier work, I had to do it all again this time without the optimism and pre-stored energy's,it made the whole experience quite serious and life threatening through silly mistakes like when using knives and cutting tools,I still have the scars!! one from my axe and one from my buck knife both injuries happened through lack of concentration,this I can put down to the weakened state I left myself in through the water issue.

Below is a pic of my grab bag, these things are always first into camp and they include a cheap water filter some h2o2 "peroxide" and a colloidal silver generator these can make shite water drinkable and are great for the GB as they don't need to be replaced if they are not needed for a while.

potassium permanganate and bleach will also purify water but even on a semi perminant basis a constant water source is essential.

solar stills or a guttering system depend largely on weather conditions and cant be relied on for water every day

Also in the kit but out of shot are my set of dowsing rods

You will always be "edgy" or not relaxed if the lay up point has no permanent source available

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/2277/dscf2289b.jpg


Not included in the pic is my axe, first aid kit, and wind up radio.
Oh also my hammock the ONLY way to kip in the woods IMO
Looks a good kit that mate.

You can also get water by tying a clear plastic bag around a bunch of leaves and makeing it airtight, the leaves let of moisture and then its collected in the bag. (i was looking on youtube for a video of what i mean, but i forgot what its called)............

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It doesnt matter how much food clothing fire or hard stock you have, without good clean water life is a no go'er and will require some form of foraging or collection from a source, I'v lived "in the woods" a number of occasions and will never repeat my first foray of finding a location via just a map I made a right plonka of myself in thinking the stream on the ordinance survey map would supply me with a source of water, WRONG it was early spring and the two inch wide stream dried up 4 weeks into the camping expedition: this was long enough to build a bender clear the camp-site and generally create a top class residence only to be forced to move because of no water, at first I would treck over 3 miles to a river then do the same back water weighs ten pounds a gallon and after 6 days of this I could not replace the lost energy with my food stocks and became very weak,not only did I have to undo all of my earlier work, I had to do it all again this time without the optimism and pre-stored energy's,it made the whole experience quite serious and life threatening through silly mistakes like when using knives and cutting tools,I still have the scars!! one from my axe and one from my buck knife both injuries happened through lack of concentration,this I can put down to the weakened state I left myself in through the water issue.

Below is a pic of my grab bag, these things are always first into camp and they include a cheap water filter some h2o2 "peroxide" and a colloidal silver generator these can make shite water drinkable and are great for the GB as they don't need to be replaced if they are not needed for a while.

potassium permanganate and bleach will also purify water but even on a semi perminant basis a constant water source is essential.

solar stills or a guttering system depend largely on weather conditions and cant be relied on for water every day

Also in the kit but out of shot are my set of dowsing rods

You will always be "edgy" or not relaxed if the lay up point has no permanent source available

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/2277/dscf2289b.jpg


Not included in the pic is my axe, first aid kit, and wind up radio.
Oh also my hammock the ONLY way to kip in the woods IMO

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...pf_rd_i=468294

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dhznlV08Y0
Good post bush doctor .

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Looks a good kit that mate.

You can also get water by tying a clear plastic bag around a bunch of leaves and makeing it airtight, the leaves let of moisture and then its collected in the bag. (i was looking on youtube for a video of what i mean, but i forgot what its called)............
Found some videos -

TRANSPIRATION SURVIVAL WATER PROCUREMENT

Ray Mears / Water from Transpiration Bag

Transpiration Bag

Water Procurement
http://rk19-bielefeld-mitte.de/survival/FM/06.htm

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Found some videos -

TRANSPIRATION SURVIVAL WATER PROCUREMENT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJpngAXi1sI

Ray Mears / Water from Transpiration Bag
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxB61...eature=related

Transpiration Bag
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6Xum5MrOpY

Water Procurement
http://rk19-bielefeld-mitte.de/survival/FM/06.htm
Nice one PC I wish this knowledge was available in the old days,the simplest things eh!

Easy to die hard to live!!! but with a little preparedness we can survive.

Where are all the young dudes "sounds like a song" its the peeps in there twenty's that will change the world.

The older ones will be the wise ones...if they survive

Flog the playstaion and buy some life saving kit

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=101365

Top thread dude ^......
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1st of 16 vids well worth a watch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZ8Tp0XAeI8&feature=fvw
good vid there Bush Doctor .

what is the title of that vid ?

so I can google to find the rest of them ,

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