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Old 23-07-2018, 04:20 AM   #1
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Default Russia makes MASSIVE progress on its ‘super-weapons’

On July 19th and 20th, The Russian Defense Ministry announced several milestones of progress in its advanced weapons systems programs. These programs were revealed to the world in March of this year, when Russian President Vladimir Putin gave the State of the Russian Federation speech.

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While at first the Western onlookers did not believe the amazing announcements of hypersonic weapons and nuclear-powered cruise missiles with unlimited range, subsequent releases and concurrent observation by the American military experts has shown these developments to be as real as Mr. Putin claimed they are.

TASS, the Russian News Agency, released information on these weapons systems in separate reports:

Squadrons of MiG-31 fighter jets armed with Kinzhal hypersonic missiles should enter combat duty in the Black Sea region and at other Russian fleets and flotillas, said Russian military expert Viktor Murakhovsky, the editor-in-chief of the Arsenal Otechestva magazine.

Besides, a squadron (between 12 and 16 aircraft) of MiG-31 fighter jets armed with Kinzhal hypersonic missiles entered combat duty in the Caspian Sea region in April.

“I think at least one squadron of those complexes should be deployed at any fleet, in other words – at all regions where we have fleets and flotillas. We need to deploy them in the regions of the Black Sea, the Baltic Sea, the Northern Fleet. The Pacific region also should not be forgotten,” Murakhovsky said.

He said that such systems can become a “good instrument” against not only vessels equipped with high-precision weapons, but also for countering carrier attack groups.
“We know how expensive a carrier attack group can be. By employing this asymmetric method, which is unbelievably cheap in comparison with building a carrier attack group, we can neutralize this threat almost completely,” the expert said.

Burevestnik nuclear-powered cruise missile trials:

The Burevestnik is an entirely new cruise missile, powered by a nuclear engine. This gives the missile unlimited range. In theory, such a missile could be launched at a target and spend days or weeks in hidden flight using advanced guidance systems, and then close on its target at the optimal time to assure destruction of that target with maximum surprise. The TASS piece goes on to say:

The Russian Defense Ministry announced that Russia was preparing to test upgraded test prototypes of the nuclear-powered Burevestnik cruise missile with an unlimited range.

According to the expert, it is highly likely that the prototype of the missile “has already made a flight.”

“Clearly, it was something like the pop-up trials of Sarmat – a launch without the nuclear-powered engine, in other words, with an ordinary missile booster, conducted in order to assess the possibility of a launch, aerodynamics and the operability of the entire system in general,” [Murakhovsky] said.

Further reporting from TASS had this to add about the Burevestnik program:

Russia is getting ready for flight tests of the Burevestnik nuclear powered cruise missile, an official at the Defense Ministry told reporters on Thursday.

“The missile’s component makeup is being improved based on clarified requirements, while ground tests continue and preparations are being made for experimental flight tests of the improved missile,” the official said.

According to the Defense Ministry, “work on an unlimited-range missile is going according to plan.”

“In the meantime, launching systems are also being designed, while technological processes to manufacture, assemble and test the missile are being improved. This range of work will make it possible to start designing a totally new sort of weapon – a strategic nuclear complex armed with a nuclear powered missile,” the ministry official noted.

[The head] of the 12th Central Research Institute at Russia’s Defense Ministry Sergey Pertsev, in turn, said that the tests of the new cruise missile equipped with a small nuclear power unit had confirmed the accuracy of the technical decisions that Russian researchers, engineers and designers had made. In addition, the tests enabled the researchers “to receive valuable experimental data necessary for specifying a number of requirements.”

“A low-flying and low-observable cruise missile carrying a nuclear warhead, with an almost unlimited range, an unpredictable trajectory and capability to bypass interception lines is invincible to all the existing and advanced air and missile defense systems,” the Russian Defense Ministry stressed.

A further use of the nuclear engine technology is also expected in the Poseidon underwater drone, Mr. Murakhovsky stated that separate systems for the craft have been successfully tested. He further noted that the next task is to design the entire layout, build a test model and begin testing the whole platform.
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Old 23-07-2018, 02:36 PM   #2
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On July 19th and 20th, The Russian Defense Ministry announced several milestones of progress in its advanced weapons systems programs. These programs were revealed to the world in March of this year, when Russian President Vladimir Putin gave the State of the Russian Federation speech.

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While at first the Western onlookers did not believe the amazing announcements of hypersonic weapons and nuclear-powered cruise missiles with unlimited range, subsequent releases and concurrent observation by the American military experts has shown these developments to be as real as Mr. Putin claimed they are.

TASS, the Russian News Agency, released information on these weapons systems in separate reports:

Squadrons of MiG-31 fighter jets armed with Kinzhal hypersonic missiles should enter combat duty in the Black Sea region and at other Russian fleets and flotillas, said Russian military expert Viktor Murakhovsky, the editor-in-chief of the Arsenal Otechestva magazine.

Besides, a squadron (between 12 and 16 aircraft) of MiG-31 fighter jets armed with Kinzhal hypersonic missiles entered combat duty in the Caspian Sea region in April.

“I think at least one squadron of those complexes should be deployed at any fleet, in other words – at all regions where we have fleets and flotillas. We need to deploy them in the regions of the Black Sea, the Baltic Sea, the Northern Fleet. The Pacific region also should not be forgotten,” Murakhovsky said.

He said that such systems can become a “good instrument” against not only vessels equipped with high-precision weapons, but also for countering carrier attack groups.
“We know how expensive a carrier attack group can be. By employing this asymmetric method, which is unbelievably cheap in comparison with building a carrier attack group, we can neutralize this threat almost completely,” the expert said.

Burevestnik nuclear-powered cruise missile trials:

The Burevestnik is an entirely new cruise missile, powered by a nuclear engine. This gives the missile unlimited range. In theory, such a missile could be launched at a target and spend days or weeks in hidden flight using advanced guidance systems, and then close on its target at the optimal time to assure destruction of that target with maximum surprise. The TASS piece goes on to say:

The Russian Defense Ministry announced that Russia was preparing to test upgraded test prototypes of the nuclear-powered Burevestnik cruise missile with an unlimited range.

According to the expert, it is highly likely that the prototype of the missile “has already made a flight.”

“Clearly, it was something like the pop-up trials of Sarmat – a launch without the nuclear-powered engine, in other words, with an ordinary missile booster, conducted in order to assess the possibility of a launch, aerodynamics and the operability of the entire system in general,” [Murakhovsky] said.

Further reporting from TASS had this to add about the Burevestnik program:

Russia is getting ready for flight tests of the Burevestnik nuclear powered cruise missile, an official at the Defense Ministry told reporters on Thursday.

“The missile’s component makeup is being improved based on clarified requirements, while ground tests continue and preparations are being made for experimental flight tests of the improved missile,” the official said.

According to the Defense Ministry, “work on an unlimited-range missile is going according to plan.”

“In the meantime, launching systems are also being designed, while technological processes to manufacture, assemble and test the missile are being improved. This range of work will make it possible to start designing a totally new sort of weapon – a strategic nuclear complex armed with a nuclear powered missile,” the ministry official noted.

[The head] of the 12th Central Research Institute at Russia’s Defense Ministry Sergey Pertsev, in turn, said that the tests of the new cruise missile equipped with a small nuclear power unit had confirmed the accuracy of the technical decisions that Russian researchers, engineers and designers had made. In addition, the tests enabled the researchers “to receive valuable experimental data necessary for specifying a number of requirements.”

“A low-flying and low-observable cruise missile carrying a nuclear warhead, with an almost unlimited range, an unpredictable trajectory and capability to bypass interception lines is invincible to all the existing and advanced air and missile defense systems,” the Russian Defense Ministry stressed.

A further use of the nuclear engine technology is also expected in the Poseidon underwater drone, Mr. Murakhovsky stated that separate systems for the craft have been successfully tested. He further noted that the next task is to design the entire layout, build a test model and begin testing the whole platform.
All very impressive but it won't frighten our govt..
They will keep on with the novichok accusations because if it does kick off, they have specially built shelters and save places to flee too..
It's us, the ordinary folk who will bear the brunt of it.
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Old 23-07-2018, 03:32 PM   #3
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If you people remember, that female from usa tv, virtually accused putin of lying about the new techs.

If people remember, all the anti russian stuff went into massive overdrive, as soon as putin spoke about this earlier this year.

He certainly triggered someone in america, to react. What ever putin said at this time, he certainly made usa, uk react to russians saying such things.

I am sure russia has many techs, just like america they are not telling the world about.

China probably is about a few decades behind usa in terms of techs, but they are moving so fast along the road to being weaponised, as they know they have too also, as well as russia.

There was something in putins address on those weapons earlier this year, that got usa, uk worked up.

You can be sure, that usa is worried, that russian missiles, being hypersonic, may be able to catch usa spy planes, that have been hypersonic since 90's. The aurora, or what ever name it has, ie americas spy plane since the 90's.
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I just wonder is this the reason for the massive over reaction from usa, uk, after russia made those announcements earlier this year.

I wonder can russians new hyper sonic missiles, now catch the american hyper sonic spy planes, that supposedly from 90's was called aurora?
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All very impressive but it won't frighten our govt..
They will keep on with the novichok accusations because if it does kick off, they have specially built shelters and save places to flee too..
It's us, the ordinary folk who will bear the brunt of it.
Thaaaat's RIGHT!
Novichok is more important!

Putin is keeping a cool head and not having this childish game UK gov is playing.
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Hmmm ... A nuclear powered range limitless engine, small enough to drive a missile! The scope of this technology alone is mindboggling.
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Russia have been the Bogey man since WW2, and will continue to be demonised.

Russia, though, have not started a war in living memory - unlike USA.

I'm not sure if they started the war in France in the early 1800's.

Ok, so they invaded Ukraine - though tbf they claimed ownership of it in any case - and yet the UN 'allowed' Israel to invade a country they claimed ownership of, America continue to refuse Native people's their heritage, and have invaded at least two sovereign states - on the face of lies and to further political expansion - in the last two decades alone. yet Russia are sanctioned for doing far less to Ukraine than American forces have inflicted on Afghanistan and Iraq.

It's highly lausable that the USA instigated WW1, WW2 as well as their attacks against Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq - and yet Russia remain the bad guys throughout all media avenues.

Novichok is the perfect case example.

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Novichok agents are binary chemical weapons, he said, which means that their potency only manifests itself after chemical synthesis of relatively harmless components.

Since the same chemical elements in Novichok are used to make pesticides, facilities producing these substances can easily be disguised as civilian factories, he wrote.

Mirzayanov said he had witnessed several scientists failing to regain their health after exposure to a Novichok-type agent.

"The damage it inflicts is practically incurable," he said in the article.

Dissident Soviet scientist Vil Mirzayanov
And yet we have people 'wandering' around Salisbury looking at the impressive cathedral, that is renowned the world over carrying this highly poisonous nerve agent, without hazmat suits on. We have traces of Novichok in their hotel room - yet no known cases of hotel staff suffering from the poison and we have two people who were initially exposed to the substance being gravely ill, and yet recovering, while another who happened on the substance by accident dying and her partner recovering.

So that is at least 6 people who were directly exposed to the Novichok agent - 5 of whom got well again after treatment - despite their being no known cure for Novichok poisoning.

So, 83% of those people exposed to this agent that has no known cure were cured.

And that's not even counting the hotel cleaners, the police, general public who sat on the bench etc etc etc.

1 in 6 (18%) is not 'practically incurable,' as the Dissident Soviet scientist Vil Mirzayanov claims.

Quite the opposite infact.

And yet the Russian state are being openly accused with zero proof.

Again.

Remember Alexander Litvinenko?

And i heard some stupid Westminster spokes-person bitch who had about as much grasp of irony as she has on reality saying that Russia were making 'all sorts of incredulous accusations against Britain, without providing any proof.....'

Er?

Now, i'm no fan of russia, and i'm sure its regime has its faults just like any other, i'm sure that its government is as corrupt as any other - but the continual hate that is being poured out toward Putin and Russia is just obscene.

So, if Russia are developing 'super weapons' then they are doing so with good cause - if Russia had no weapons then Russia would be undergoing the same regime change that we see happening throughout the Middle East who are being forced to have democracy crammed down their throats at al costs, like it or not.

Nothing wrong with democracy, of course. But it is the democracy is tyranny disguised as democracy - and it doesn't fucking work.

Same with 'communism' - on paper it is the perfect solution. It's just that on paper and in reality are not the same thing.
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