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Old 06-05-2015, 10:22 AM   #17741
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Are you fascinated with the subject?

Are the non-believers (the hoax campaigners) who are here almost 24/7 fascinated with the subject?
We're not obsessed with convincing the world there was a school for satanic pedo soldiers in the heart of Hampstead, and accusing anybody who disbelieves it of being on the other side. There's a difference.
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Old 06-05-2015, 10:33 AM   #17742
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'you are not more intelligent than the intelligence services'

THE HAMPSTEAD SPECTACULAR

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Old 06-05-2015, 10:43 AM   #17743
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...and neither are you.
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Old 06-05-2015, 10:49 AM   #17744
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None. 543000 views on here. There is no interest? Am glad to see you're climbing the walls in anxiety
You do realise that 543000 views isn't 543000 individual people views right?

Everytime You, I and everyone else (posters and lurkers) clicks into this thread it counts as a view. More often than not on varying forum platforms, a page refresh counts as a view.

These update either once a day, twice a day or more, depending on the forum software.

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Old 06-05-2015, 11:00 AM   #17745
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If JC was a "good cop," why didn't he make an immediate arrest of Christie? I've encountered cops that will ruin your day and take you down to the local station if you look at them too long as they pass in a patrol vehicle. How did he get copies of the recordings? I can't imagine Christie would have let him walk out with the main evidence, so what exactly did he hand over to the police?
I refer you to my earlier post. Arresting your brother in law in your kitchen late at night hardly seems practicable, particularly when you know he's a potentially violent nutter. I infer the recording - which is several hours long - was made covertly with his mobile phone left on the kitchen table. I don't know how JC got the recording off his mobile and onto a CD (or whatever medium), but imagine that a data cable and a PC was involved.
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Old 06-05-2015, 11:04 AM   #17746
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Are you fascinated with the subject?

Are the non-believers (the hoax campaigners) who are here almost 24/7 fascinated with the subject?
bullying gets you nowhere.
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Old 06-05-2015, 11:07 AM   #17747
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I refer you to my earlier post. Arresting your brother in law in your kitchen late at night hardly seems practicable, particularly when you know he's a potentially violent nutter. I infer the recording - which is several hours long - was made covertly with his mobile phone left on the kitchen table. I don't know how JC got the recording off his mobile and onto a CD (or whatever medium), but imagine that a data cable and a PC was involved.
Is he a "potentially violent nutter" though, or does he just like to project that image? Being married to his sister, and a cop, I'd expect him to know the difference. What evidence is there that Christie can actually handle himself quite capably and is a dangerous one-on-one threat?
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Old 06-05-2015, 11:15 AM   #17748
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None. 543000 views on here. There is no interest? Am glad to see you're climbing the walls in anxiety
you do realize that 542000 of them are alfs?

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Old 06-05-2015, 11:15 AM   #17749
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Old 06-05-2015, 11:16 AM   #17750
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you do realize that 542000 of them are alfs?
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Old 06-05-2015, 11:22 AM   #17751
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you do realize that 542000 of them are alfs?
Oi, cheeky!

I've been taxing my brain with the maths and if my percentage of views relates to my posting, I've only viewed the thread about 77,000 times. Take that gross mis-attribution back, or I'm contacting my solicitor.

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Old 06-05-2015, 11:24 AM   #17752
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Is he a "potentially violent nutter" though, or does he just like to project that image? Being married to his sister, and a cop, I'd expect him to know the difference. What evidence is there that Christie can actually handle himself quite capably and is a dangerous one-on-one threat?
Let's hope you never get to find out! If you want an idea of Abraham's formative experiences in the British penal system, I recommend a viewing of the Alan Clarke film, 'Scum.' Or the more recent, 'Starred Up.'

Listen, I'm out of here. Just dropped in to see how this interminable thread is progressing. I got kicked out of a Facebook group for suggesting that those who vehemently oppose the Hampstead 'truthers' are merely perpetuating a pointless argument, but I will say it again.
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Old 06-05-2015, 11:27 AM   #17753
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I don't need to watch movies, I've been in those places and met lots of jack the lad types. They have to be fairly special to impress me and I'm not feeling it from Christie. It'll take more than a 6-pack and a swagger, that's for sure.

ps. And, it's not a pointless argument at all. The whole debacle has been highly educational.

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Old 06-05-2015, 11:30 AM   #17754
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'you are not more intelligent than the intelligence services'

THE HAMPSTEAD SPECTACULAR

Makes me laugh in the part where he's pretending to be a believer, going through all the esoteric connections in place names in Hampstead etc. He goes 'Oh oim having a focken truth wank here' (taking the piss out of how people try to make something out of nothing).

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The real black magick is not what the people have been accused of, but the ones that are the accusers. So you have the witchfinder generals accusing innocent people of witchcraft (catholics, protestants, jews right?) but what those people didn't do wasn't the satanic part. The satanic part was what the witchfinder general, and the priest and the local governors did afterwards. That was the real satanism.
I think he has some excellent points in that video and they are even more relevant now than they seemed when I first listened to it back in february.

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Old 06-05-2015, 11:31 AM   #17755
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Oi, cheeky!

I've been taxing my brain with the maths and if my percentage of views relates to my posting, I've only viewed the thread about 77,000 times. Take that gross mis-attribution back, or I'm contacting my solicitor.
I know some McKenzie Friends and thier supporters that could help you, they are very knowledgeable on the Common Law side of things, you could sue Babs for a Squillion Bajillion pounds, would you like me to give you their contact details?

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Old 06-05-2015, 11:34 AM   #17756
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I know some McKenzie Friends and thier supporters that could help you, they are very knowledgeable on the Common Law side of things, you could sue Babs for a Squillion Bajillion pounds, would you like me to give you their contact details?
Do they do citizen's arrests? It won't be the same if babo isn't escorted bodily to a place where she can make recompense.

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Old 06-05-2015, 11:38 AM   #17757
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I know some McKenzie Friends and thier supporters that could help you, they are very knowledgeable on the Common Law side of things, you could sue Babs for a Squillion Bajillion pounds, would you like me to give you their contact details?

did alf pay you to say that?
Am upset no one here has accused me of being a lady

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Old 06-05-2015, 11:42 AM   #17758
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...and neither are you.
I know that. it is appropriate to know the reality of the situation, b sharp.

'you' in this case encompasses everyone, including me, and even you.

unless of course you happen to belong to the subset referred to here, i.e the intelligence services.

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Old 06-05-2015, 11:50 AM   #17759
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That would have caused some ructions, since Jean Clement is (a) married to Abraham's sister and (b) a policeman - a good cop, who (probably) doesn't do extra-judicial violence. As it was, he knew Abe well enough to be highly sceptical and had the presence of mind to record the conversation and then deliver the recording to his colleagues. If only those colleagues had listened to it immediately and taken action, instead of leaving it in a drawer for months, Abe could have been picked up early and his nightmarish fairy tale could have been concluded.
There are indications to me that, as an inverse to what is said in the Funny Farm, Abraham & Ella benefited from a little "higher up" intervention.
You need preparation to disappear (false passports, access to funds, somewhere to go) and the two have successfully evaded the police by all accounts. They either had help in the police deciding to not really look for them or they were fully prepared for abandoning the kids and a fugitive life...

It's interesting that this quite damning recording was "shelved" for some time. Also the police attempt to, at first, talk to ella at their house and subsequently to go for the forced entry... and yet three people climbed out of a rear window and escaped across roofs... and the cops, now escalated to an aggressive tactical arrest, didn't think to cover this or even see these people.

I ask myself how likely it is that houses in wealthy Hampstead (3 grand a month rent for ella's house according to the BBC) are so easy to access across the roofs.... if this "escape" was so handy, and must have been known to ella or she would not have gone straight for that window (which window, which floor?), then that would be a massive security faux-pas. In my experience such easy access routes are defended against in places like Hampstead. This account of ella "fleeing" does not seem realistic to me. Is someone making up stories? Who told us about this magically successful escape? Sabine McNeill, arch coordinator of tales of lies...
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That would have caused some ructions, since Jean Clement is (a) married to Abraham's sister and (b) a policeman - a good cop, who (probably) doesn't do extra-judicial violence. As it was, he knew Abe well enough to be highly sceptical and had the presence of mind to record the conversation and then deliver the recording to his colleagues. If only those colleagues had listened to it immediately and taken action, instead of leaving it in a drawer for months, Abe could have been picked up early and his nightmarish fairy tale could have been concluded.
presumably, then, now that they have listened to that recording, which, btw for people not that familiar with the case was one video NOT released online, unfortunately, given the other material that was, there is evidence both in audio and witness statement from JC that intimidation and psychological abuse happened right here on UK soil, ie within UK police juristriction. Hooray! More charges, abe!
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