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Old 07-05-2007, 08:02 AM   #1
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Default you have to see this video by Manly P. Hall

Manly P. Hall- Success is the Accomplishment of The Necessary

this guy touches on so many important issues including what needs to be done in order to get out of this millenia old illusion, but he really nails it with spiritual
aspects, like meaning of life/our purpose here and our future.


http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...51085322977929

it is essential viewing material for those who are ready!
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Old 07-05-2007, 08:19 AM   #2
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Manly P. Hall- Victory of the Soul Over Circumstance
Soul, Spirit, Consciousness and magnetic fields oh human body!!


http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...67849953509582


think about most likely purpose of HAARP - manipulating human magnetic fields, therefore soul/consciousness!!!
Manly talks about transmutation of base substances within individual's body.

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Old 07-05-2007, 09:33 AM   #3
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Thanks king, I'll check them out.
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Thanks king, I'll check them out.
ditto. this should be interesting.
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Manly P. Hall- Success is the Accomplishment of The Necessary

this guy touches on so many important issues including what needs to be done in order to get out of this millenia old illusion, but he really nails it with spiritual
aspects, like meaning of life/our purpose here and our future.


http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...51085322977929

it is essential viewing material for those who are ready!
i just watched the first vid. several points.

1) i am reminded of a quote from ken wilber:

"ecology is not about saving the planet; it is getting people to agree on how to save the planet."

i guess what i'm saying is that i don't disagree with anything hall said. he said it in 1990-ish, and we're still on the same path.

i think it's great, as far as it goes.

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In 1973 Mr. Hall was recognized as a 33º Mason (the highest rank possible in the Scottish Rite), at a ceremony held at PRS on December 8th. No doubt this honor is due to Mr. Hall’s lifelong study of the philosophical basis of Freemasonry, writing several books on the subject, The Lost Keys of Freemasonry, Masonic Orders of Fraternity, Freemasonry of the Ancient Egyptian, The Secret Destiny of America, and his belief our continent was set aside for a great experiment of enlightened self-government by ancient philosophers, and that the seeds of this plan for the founding of America were planted one thousand years before the Christian era and is partly revealed in the symbolism of the Great Seal of the United States.

“Thousands of years ago, in Egypt, these mystical orders were aware of the existence of the western hemisphere and the great continent which we call America. The bold resolution was made that this western continent should become the site of the philosophic empire. Just when this was done it is impossible now to say, but certainly the decision was reached prior to the time of Plato, for a thinly veiled statement of this resolution is the substance of his treatise on the Atlantic Islands.” (from his book, The Secret Destiny of America).

However to allay any conspiracy enthusiasts, it should be clearly stated that PRS is an entirely separate and independent organization with no links to the Masonic movement. Surely it must be a measure of the man, that Mr. Hall never used PRS as a recruiting station for Masonic membership, and what he held important was the inner philosophical tradition of Masonry.
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Manley Hall- The Lost Keys of Freemasonry is a work often quoted by anti-Masons due to some of the statements made by Hall about the religious nature of Freemasonry. Published in 1923, it was written when Hall was barely 21 years of age - and some thirty one (31) years before he became a Mason! Because of this, it can easily be seen that the book represents merely the personal theories of a non-Mason. Further, Mr. Hall (who passed away in August 1990) was a self-avowed mystic and hardly a "leading authority" of Freemasonry.

Anti-Masons make much over Hall's writing being highly 'influential' on Masonry. The publishers of the 1976 reprint of his book (53 years after its original publication!) note (somewhat proudly) that Hall's work had sold over 30,000 copies. By contrast, however, we'd comment that the anti-Masonic book by World War I German General Erich Ludendorff sold over 100,000 copies.

"He was a promulgator of mystic and theosophical philosophies and despite the claims of anti-Masons, his writings have not received official sanction by any Masonic body. The fact that he held the Thirty-third Degree and was respected by many Thirty-Third Degree Masons and even by the Supreme Councils 33º is no more significant than the fact that various Baptist, Anglican, or Methodist authors also hold or held that honor."
"Is It True What They Say About Freemasonry"
by Art DeHoyos & S. Brent Morris
(Note: Brother DeHoyos is the Administrative Director and Bro. Morris is the Membership Director for the Southern Jurisdiction of the Scottish Rite, the same body whose quotes about Hall at the time of his death are sometimes used to 'prove' that the Scottish Rite somehow endorsed Hall's writings.
To dismiss their comments on this matter is disingenuous at best.)


Additionally, as a founder of 'The Philosophical Research Society', Hall becomes the brunt of criticism from the religious intolerants who despise all forms of free thought and somehow manage to tie theosophy and Freemasonry together through this one individual. We'd suggest that whenever one sees a condemnation of Freemasonry based on quotes from either Hall or Pike, they should look quite suspiciously.
http://www.masonicinfo.com/authors.htm

please; i'm not judging or evaluating this information, i'm simply offering it for everyone's consideration.

i tread lightly here. i'm a big fan of joseph campbell, and some people believe he was the antichrist. so, always consider the source.
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Old 07-05-2007, 11:15 PM   #6
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i just watched the first vid. several points.

1) i am reminded of a quote from ken wilber:

"ecology is not about saving the planet; it is getting people to agree on how to save the planet."

i guess what i'm saying is that i don't disagree with anything hall said. he said it in 1990-ish, and we're still on the same path.

i think it's great, as far as it goes.

2)

http://www.prs.org/mphbio.htm



http://www.masonicinfo.com/authors.htm

please; i'm not judging or evaluating this information, i'm simply offering it for everyone's consideration.

i tread lightly here. i'm a big fan of joseph campbell, and some people believe he was the antichrist. so, always consider the source.
yes, I know that Manly was 33 degree freemason, i can hear what God is he referring to, God that he calls light.

but, we need to understand masonry better, and what better way than to understand how they think -- than to hear it from
someone who understand Masonry so well?

i also agree with what he said and i wonder what he is not saying.

but, that second video -- where he said that soul is electromagnetic in nature hit me even harder!

if soul/consciousness is electromagnetic in nature and it manifests as an electric aura of sort -- then it can be controlled via HAARP, chemtrails and cell towers easily!!

I just mentioned one thing that I learned from this wise man, and even though he was a mason -- I have the respect for him.

Furthermore, we are made to believe that Masonry is absolutely evil, but is it possible that basic masonic doctrines are not as evil as we believe?
is it possible that Masonic doctrines were perverted?

Just like you, i am just asking a question, not making statement that Masonry is the way to go.

but, when we hear the truth, something that resonates deep within each of us -- we should at least consider it, even if it comes from "adversary".

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Old 07-05-2007, 11:29 PM   #7
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Thanks for the links king, I'm halfway through the first one & really enjoying what I'm hearing so far... I don't care whether he was a mason or not, he seemed like a very wise man IMO, totally on the ball with lots of things.

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Old 08-05-2007, 12:29 AM   #8
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Wow where to start.. He certainly spells out the agenda for a NWO very succinctly, we have to end the chaos of war and despots fighting for power which he as a mason knows very well that the chaos of the first and second world war was created for that reason, to demoralize the 'masses'.

I agree that we all need to do with less and stop the heavy consumption of the worlds resources, but does that also go for the elite or is it just us, the 'masses' who will do without? Also very telling his idea of a benevolent aristocracy of sages and initiates to run the planet.

He was obviously a very wise man, but he was also an elitist who probably felt little compassion for the 'little man' and seemed intent on returning the planet back to the garden for the exclusive use of those deemed worthy to enjoy it.
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Phoenix1 very kindly sent me two DVD's of Manly P. Hall, and I found Hall to be so eloquent and profluent.

The thing that struck me the most was when he said something like "Truth is a conscious being..."

Wow! How true!

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yes, I know that Manly was 33 degree freemason, i can hear what God is he referring to, God that he calls light.

but, we need to understand masonry better, and what better way than to understand how they think -- than to hear it from
someone who understand Masonry so well?

i also agree with what he said and i wonder what he is not saying.
yes. know your 'enemy'. personally, i think hall was just in love with this mental vision of some perfect utopia, and he saw freemasonry as a vehicle to transcend the oppression of the catholic church and modern industrialism.

i thought for a long time that hall was a recruiter, but after doing a little more reading, i've changed my mind. i think hall is a great source, precisely because of his naivete. he and campbell are alike in many ways. here's a vid, if you care to take a look.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...+of+myth&hl=en

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but, that second video -- where he said that soul is electromagnetic in nature hit me even harder!
i'll be sure to look at it. thanks.

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if soul/consciousness is electromagnetic in nature and it manifests as an electric aura of sort -- then it can be controlled via HAARP, chemtrails and cell towers easily!!
quite possible, imo.

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I just mentioned one thing that I learned from this wise man, and even though he was a mason -- I have the respect for him.
he was kind of funny in a couple of spots, too. good one liners.

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Furthermore, we are made to believe that Masonry is absolutely evil, but is it possible that basic masonic doctrines are not as evil as we believe?
is it possible that Masonic doctrines were perverted?

Just like you, i am just asking a question, not making statement that Masonry is the way to go.

but, when we hear the truth, something that resonates deep within each of us -- we should at least consider it, even if it comes from "adversary".
i've read even george washington really had second thoughts about freemasonry in the last few years of his life. the whole whigs vs. democrats rivalry in the early 19th century was primarily about the continued influence of freemasons. it came to a head with andrew jackson, who was almost assasinated in office; after that, nobody ever really stood up to them again. they've always been completely committed to victory.

hall gives a hint when he says basically, the prime directive is the survival of the species, meaning their own survival, really.

when you take the phrase "success is the accomplishment of the necessary" in this context, um, well, quite honestly it puts a chill up my back.

imo, freemasonry as it is practised today would burn the village to the ground in order to save it.

imo, freemasonry as it is practised today is a corruption of ancient widsom, full of spiritual pride.

but hall was from a different place, a different time, a different context. some of the 'old timers' are still relevant. blavatsky (not the theosophists, tho'), gurdjieff, sri aurobindo to name a couple are also worth a look.
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i thought for a long time that hall was a recruiter, but after doing a little more reading, i've changed my mind. i think hall is a great source, precisely because of his naivete. he and campbell are alike in many ways. here's a vid, if you care to take a look.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...+of+myth&hl=en
hey tru,

this guy is definitely fascinating!
thank you for the link.

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Old 08-05-2007, 10:26 AM   #12
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Joseph Campbell (that i just learned about -- thanks to tru)
explains religion like no one else has done

he explains that people get stuck on religious metaphors
he talks about ancient and modern metaphores

he sure makes many interesting points that really make you think out
of established paradigm



http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...oseph+campbell
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Phoenix1 very kindly sent me two DVD's of Manly P. Hall, and I found Hall to be so eloquent and profluent.

The thing that struck me the most was when he said something like "Truth is a conscious being..."

Wow! How true!

There are a gems to be found, even in the darkest of places - Phoenix1 to Tin

Thanks Bud!
Thanks Tin. You are Welcome.. BTW Pepes all the Manly P Hall Vids (in order ) are posted in The You tube section, and in Secret societies sectin too.

Also Many P Halls (The secret Teachings Of All Ages ebook)

Now they are ALL here in Generall too.
.................................................. .................



OK Manly Palmer Hall..........Here be some Flashing Gems for those who can look at the deeper places un blinkered.

Pick up the Gems Manly Palmer Hall has, that are for you, if you chose too. But Its my guess that most of you will run for miles.However I hace larned much from Manly P Hall. He has a lot of Truth.

He raises a lot of valid truths for me anyway. But then thats my right to see Truth, and Love are some things we should serve, in these times.

We NEVER Die ...Gice them a look ans I guarantee you will agree with a lot Manly Palmer Hall says

He also wrote books, but this ebook is is finest .....................................

THE SECRET TEACHINGS OF ALL AGES at his link below

http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/sta/


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THIS IS THE FOOTAGE OF MANLY P HALL
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Manly P. Hall- Passing the Lamp- The Life of Manly P. Hall
39 min - 18-Feb-2007 - small full starsmall full starsmall full starsmall full starsmall half star (6 ratings)
http://www.considereverything.tv Related topics Manly P. Hall, Freemason, Theosophical Society, Rosicrucian, Rene Descartes, The Golden Dawn, Tarot, ...
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...26220340844033


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Manly P. Hall- Love of Truth
1 hr 7 min - 17-Feb-2007 - small full starsmall full starsmall full starsmall full starsmall full star (3 ratings)
... http://www.believenothing.tv Church of Religious Science, Rosicrucian, Theosophical Society, Golden Dawn, OTO, Freemason, Israel Regardie, Kabbalah ...
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...41969872696254

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Manly P. Hall- Success is the Accomplishment of The Necessary
1 hr 14 min - 19-Feb-2007 - small full starsmall full starsmall full starsmall full starsmall half star (7 ratings)
Visit us at http://www.ageofone.com Related topics Manly P. Hall, freemason, theosophical society, Rosicrucian, Rene Descartes, The Golden Dawn, Tarot, ...
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...51085322977929

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Manly P. Hall- Victory of the Soul Over Circumstance
58 min - 18-Feb-2007 - small full starsmall full starsmall full starsmall full starsmall empty star (10 ratings)
http://www.believenothing.tv Related topics Manly P. Hall, Freemason, Theosophical Society, Rosicrucian, Rene Descartes, The Golden ... all » Dawn, ...
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...67849953509582

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Manly P. Hall- Search for the Essential Meaning of Life
1 hr 10 min - 16-Feb-2007 - small full starsmall full starsmall full starsmall full starsmall half star (10 ratings)
... http://www.considereverything.tv Freemason Qabalistic Symbolism Kabbalah Rosicrucian Carl Jung Western Mysteries Tarot, philosophy occult illuminati Secret Tree of Life Christian Jesus The ...
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...34070774959752

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Manly P. Hall- The Twenty-First Century- A New Beginning
38 min - 19-Feb-2007 - small full starsmall full starsmall full starsmall full starsmall half star (10 ratings)
... us at http://www.believenothing.tv Related topics Idiocracy, Manly P. Hall, freemason, theosophical society, Rosicrucian, Rene Descartes, The Golden ...
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...73510193429070

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Here they are Phoenix, and thanks for those links brother.

I've added the image and quote from 'Freemasonry and Catholicism' by Max Heindel. Intersting what they believe...

‘The Secret Teachings of All Ages’ - Manly P. Hall
http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/sta/
http://altreligion.about.com/library...tteachings.htm

‘The Lost Keys of Freemasonry’ – Manly P. Hall
http://altreligion.about.com/library...l_lostkeys.htm

‘Rosicrucian and Masonic Origins’ – Manly P. Hall
http://altreligion.about.com/library...nicorigins.htm

‘The Nature of the Absolute’ – Manly P. Hall
http://altreligion.about.com/library...reabsolute.htm

And here is there page with freemasonry...
http://altreligion.about.com/od/free..._CoMasonry.htm

Also some books by Max Heindel...
http://altreligion.about.com/sitesea...de=2879&type=1



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The accompanying chart shows graphically the three Ages mentioned in this article:

(1) The First Age, when each human being was a complete creative unit, male-female, double sexed, and ruled by one Hierarch, Melchisedec, who filled dual office as King and Priest.

(2)The Second Age,when th division of the raceinto men and women, and the division of the rulership into the State and Church caused war and strife.

The State espouses the cause of Fatherhood and Man and upholds the male ideal of Arts, Crafts and Industry, embodied in Hiram Abiff.

The Church espouses the cause of Motherhood and Woman and holds aloft the female ideal of love, and hearth and home embodied in the Madonna and her child.

It is the conflicting interests of the man and the woman, the home and the shop, the Church and the State, which cause the economic struggle, the war and the strife with which mankind is cursed and which make all long and pray for the reign of peace.

(3) The Third Age, when a divine Christ, who, like Melchisedec, shall fill the dual office of King and priest, and shall rule over a purged and glorified humanity, which has risen from sex-love to soul-love.


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Cheers for them M Id love the hardcopy of The Secret Teachings of All Ages, its got some brilliant imagery in it too.

I'm falling behind a bit on my threads im subsribed to , but hey! Too much time in here is not allways good for me. SOmetimes I gotta kick back.

Tonight meeting Jeffangel in THERE hopefully, and i'm hoping Tinmenace is in too.

But we will wait and see.

Thanks for the links again M

BTW whats going on withe the girlies LOL ??

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Joseph Campbell (that i just learned about -- thanks to tru)
explains religion like no one else has done

he explains that people get stuck on religious metaphors
he talks about ancient and modern metaphores

he sure makes many interesting points that really make you think out
of established paradigm



http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...oseph+campbell
glad you got something from him, king. i asked my wife to buy the whole 6-part series for me for my birthday. i first saw this series in 1988, and it changed my life. campbell really put me on a path that i had never even imagined existed.

it still rings true today, especially the part about the dragon coming up from the abyss as ultimately our own unconscious fears.

didn't mean to hijack the thread, tho...

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OK Manly Palmer Hall..........Here be some Flashing Gems for those who can look at the deeper places un blinkered.

Pick up the Gems Manly Palmer Hall has, that are for you, if you chose too. But Its my guess that most of you will run for miles.However I hace larned much from Manly P Hall. He has a lot of Truth.

He raises a lot of valid truths for me anyway. But then thats my right to see Truth, and Love are some things we should serve, in these times.

We NEVER Die ...Gice them a look ans I guarantee you will agree with a lot Manly Palmer Hall says

He also wrote books, but this ebook is is finest .....................................

THE SECRET TEACHINGS OF ALL AGES at his link below

http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/sta/
good post, phoenix. in the proper context, and knowing the answers must come from within, much can be learned from all this.
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*bump*

Some great info here, I'm just about to start on the Joseph Campbell stuff, thanks guys!!
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