Older civilisations

[iamawaveofthesea]

Originally Posted by grandmasterp

I dunno.
Check out that Atlantis2011 conference report.
Some of the contributors were in tenure and on research grant funds.
It's OK to claim that there is some sort of 'forbidden history' that TPTB don't want us to know.
BUT
It is all out there online already.
Where's the 'forbidden' in that?
It's also untrue to claim that 'speculative history' never gets research funding.
That Atlantis2011 conference proves as much.

yes GMP and that is why they have been working so hard to control the internet ie PIPA, ACTA, SOPS, CISPA etc and now various trade agreements like TTIP and TTP

The internet has acted like the printing press on steroids by making information readily available to people but the system still controls what it can control and it is able to exert influence in areas such as education and media

[grandmasterp]

Originally Posted by whaaat

[u rl]http://sgem.org[/url]

at the atlantis conference they made the small error of announcing that atlantis was at gadiera [and they didn't know what that was]. they were set straight and then went to sgem

There's no record of that for SGEM2011.
All the papers are in that link I put up.
Check em out...
Nothing.

[whaaat]

Originally Posted by grandmasterp

There's no record of that for SGEM2011.
All the papers are in that link I put up.
Check em out...
Nothing.

its not in submitted papers. it was a speech. it was the first open lecture on the first day. mircea answers his email in anything but english.

[grandmasterp]

Originally Posted by whaaat

its not in submitted papers. it was a speech. it was the first open lecture on the first day. mircea answers his email in anything but english.

Well we'll just have to take your word for that then.
Given the lack of evidence in the conference printed proceedings and all.
Not saying it aint true.
Just proving that it aint in the SGEM2011 reports.
Check that link mate.
It aint there.

[whaaat]

Originally Posted by grandmasterp

Well we'll just have to take your word for that then.
Given the lack of evidence in the conference printed proceedings and all.
Not saying it aint true.
Just proving that it aint in the SGEM2011 reports.
Check that link mate.
It aint there.

i think i would look in the schedule of events. but i know mircea has a hotmail address. i know he lovvvvves to talk about it but not in english

can you see it?





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[grandmasterp]

Originally Posted by whaaat

i think i would look in the schedule of events. but i know mircea has a hotmail address. i know he lovvvvves to talk about it but not in english

Sounds like an interesting chap.
Shame that there's no English translation of his work out there yet.
You do know that SGEM2011 was a soil-sciences conference don't you?
It is paid for by the EU.
They have one every year and the 2011 conference was in Bulgaria.

[whaaat]

Originally Posted by grandmasterp

Sounds like an interesting chap.
Shame that there's no English translation of his work out there yet.
You do know that SGEM2011 was a soil-sciences conference don't you?
It is paid for by the EU.
They have one every year and the 2011 conference was in Bulgaria.

it always at the same spot. its very nice. mircea did something on coal there once. its multidisciplinary as far a geologists go. he speaks french, german, i think italian probably others.

[porridge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc7X27NQm7Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQ23nz5z4g0

[cosmic tramp]

Originally Posted by grandmasterp

'Forbidden History' is perhaps the wrong term..
Nobody is forbidding it, it is all out there online.
'Speculative History' is maybe more accurate.

Excellent point there GMP the fact it is on Waterstone's bookshelves in the first place, out there in public domain, makes something of a mockery of the word 'forbidden'.

I'm more interested in what the Vatican and the British Museum have salted away in their underground vaults. That is definitely forbidden.

[porridge]

Its forbidden in academic circles to talk about or you'll never get taken seriously & your career will disappear.

Also as proven in Egypt you wont get access to any sites for investigation once you've been labelled & full out of favour with the status quo.

Pretty much like most branches of science.

The electric universe, being another example shunned by the mainstream.
Velikovsky proved that being viscously attacked for entertaining the idea ancient mythology had some truth to it.

[abacus]

Originally Posted by cosmic tramp

I'm more interested in what the Vatican and the British Museum have salted away in their underground vaults. That is definitely forbidden.

If it's forbidden, why do they publish things like this?

Vatican Archives

Publications

Digital projects

Access

The various historical archives

And a way of searching the BM.

[iamawaveofthesea]

Originally Posted by abacus

If it's forbidden, why do they publish things like this?

Vatican Archives

Publications

Digital projects

Access

The various historical archives

And a way of searching the BM.

it was interesting when the vaticans secret library just happened to find the chinon parchment in recent years after all the hype kicked up by whats-his-names books about the holy grail, hundreds of years after it was said to have been created

The vatican has copied every banned book and kept a copy for itself. It also has the worlds biggest pornography collection in its library of banned items. Strange that a celebate priesthood would have the biggest porn stash in the world....or is it?

[cosmic tramp]

Originally Posted by porridge

.

The electric universe, being another example shunned by the mainstream.
Velikovsky proved that being viscously attacked for entertaining the idea ancient mythology had some truth to it.

Stephen Hawking himself was initially slammed down for his discoveries by his own eminent Tutor : Fred Hoyle.

[porridge]

Originally Posted by cosmic tramp

Stephen Hawking himself was initially slammed down for his discoveries by his own eminent Tutor : Fred Hoyle.

Well Fred Hoyle was right & a strong opponent of the big bang theory calling it religion which it is & precisely where it stems from.

Maybe why he got refused the Nobel prize & labelled a loon.

[rapunzel]

Originally Posted by whaaat

i think there is. according to faulkner there is a Great Flood which is a woman [daughter of Re] and great flood here on page 130 in The Egyptian Book of the Dead:The Book of Going Forth by Day page 130...part 174 chapter for letting a spirit go out from the great gate in the sky

"...and I am he who guards the linen garments which the Cobra guarded on the night of the great flood. "

peace

Apologies for not replying earlier but I have been ill. There really is no record of a Great Flood in Egypt. As Abacus said, the 'flood' mentioned in the BOD is the annual Nile flood upon which the prosperity of Egypt depended.

The daughter of Re and a flood that you mention would be the story of the lioness goddess Sekhmet who was sent by her father Re to punish mankind. So great was her blood lust that the fields ran red with blood and so Re had compassion on mankind and repented of his desire to punish them. Sekhmet couldn't be stopped however so Re came up with the idea of flooding the fields with pomegranate juice, to simulate the collour of blood, and mixed it with beer. Sekhmet lapped it all up and became so drunk she slept for three days and when she awoke her blood lust had vanished and humanity was saved.

A great story but not proof of a Flood.

[whaaat]

Originally Posted by rapunzel

Apologies for not replying earlier but I have been ill. There really is no record of a Great Flood in Egypt. As Abacus said, the 'flood' mentioned in the BOD is the annual Nile flood upon which the prosperity of Egypt depended.

The daughter of Re and a flood that you mention would be the story of the lioness goddess Sekhmet who was sent by her father Re to punish mankind. So great was her blood lust that the fields ran red with blood and so Re had compassion on mankind and repented of his desire to punish them. Sekhmet couldn't be stopped however so Re came up with the idea of flooding the fields with pomegranate juice, to simulate the collour of blood, and mixed it with beer. Sekhmet lapped it all up and became so drunk she slept for three days and when she awoke her blood lust had vanished and humanity was saved.

A great story but not proof of a Flood.

thats just so silly to think that an annual event is memorialized like that but i never did say the flood took place in egypt. and the edfu texts similarly speak of an annual event? you keep on thinking what you like.
at this time in history nothing stops with differences in opinion over a text. science is working very hard to prove mythology is correct. it makes science very happy to ensure mythology wins over religion.
they have found the great compound of life. the seed of egyptian culture with it. the seed of all culture really. there are artifacts to show already...

do you know what this is?

[aryasorsino]

15,000 BC - 10,000 BC: The Magnetic North Pole moved from the Hudson Bay to its current position.

10,965 BC: The earth was hit by a fragmented comet. It initiated the Younger Dryas.

9,600 BC: The Younger Dryas ends, and with it the last Ice Age.

Both the beginning and the end of the Younger Dryas were paired with Cataclysmic Floods that wipe out all the nations and cities on the coast lines of the world! Civilizations like the Osirian Civilization, Dwarka, Rama, Yonaguni and Bimini sink.

There were two main centers of population in Europe. One in a large area around the Pyrenees and one north of the Black Sea. Now that the Ice Age was finally over, Great Brittain and Scandinavia are recolonized. Also people move more north again in Central Asia.

Blavatsky said Atlantis sank in 9564 BC Atlantis and science agrees the Younger Dryas ended in 9,600 BC. Those two dates are awfully close!

[whaaat]

Originally Posted by AryasOrsino

There were two main centers of population in Europe. One in a large area around the Pyrenees and one north of the Black Sea. Now that the Ice Age was finally over, Great Brittain and Scandinavia are recolonized. Also people move more north again in Central Asia.

trypillian cities from north of the black sea certainly look like atlantis with their race track ... but no canals


but these people came from the middle danube through the carpathians.

west of the middle danube the relatives of the trypillians were building these

like at szemely

re: refugeum
current theory of science.....

Mystery invaders conquered Europe at the end of last ice age

Exactly where this new population came from is still unclear, but it seems likely that they came from warmer areas further south. “The main hypothesis would be glacial refugia in south-eastern Europe,” says Johannes Krause at the Max Planck Institute for the Science of Human History in Jena, Germany, who led the analysis.

https://www.newscientist.com/article...-last-ice-age/

and

Very late Aurignacian settlements were discovered in Oltenia and Muntenia. As a rule they were large workshops where flint tools were made by Aurignacian techniques; they opened by the end of the last Wiirm and were still producing in the post-glacial period.

The Cambridge Ancient History: pt. 1. The prehistory of the Balkans; and the Middle East and the Aegean world, tenth to eighth centuries B.C
John Boardman, N. G. L. Hammond
Cambridge University Press

those aurignations in romania were supposed to be dead at least 10,000 years earlier... but there they are thriving post glacially.

re:comet
around 3800 bc, the gumelnita culture saw something in the sky







and then their civilzation disappeared.

[cosmic tramp]

Originally Posted by porridge

Well Fred Hoyle was right & a strong opponent of the big bang theory calling it religion which it is & precisely where it stems from.

Maybe why he got refused the Nobel prize & labelled a loon.

Fred Hoyle makes an interesting point in one of his books as to how nature often gets it wrong, in that the ideal colour for maximum photosynthesis would not be green but black, imagine that : black grass, black trees, black hedgerows, black houseplants etc. etc.

[sevenhills]

Originally Posted by cosmic tramp

Fred Hoyle makes an interesting point in one of his books as to how nature often gets it wrong, in that the ideal colour for maximum photosynthesis would not be green but black, imagine that : black grass, black trees, black hedgerows, black houseplants etc. etc.

But black may absorb too much light, which could cause the plant to dry out / wither