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Old 19-05-2011, 02:09 PM   #21
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Yes, they are definitely covering it up, as the internet is packed with videos; just google "democracia real ya":

http://www.antena3.com/especiales/no...051600027.html

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Old 19-05-2011, 02:11 PM   #22
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Yes, they are basically protesting against most things we've been criticising here: politicians, bankers, the elite, etc... Their main slogan is: "no son "mercancía en manos de políticos y banqueros", which means "we are not merchandising in the hands of politicians and bankers."

Main older people are joining in due to the crisis and the economic situation, but most young people are protesting against our current system. What's good about these protests, and the reason they are attracting so many people, is that they are party and ideologically neutral.
I take it you've heard this great speech by 'Cristina'?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=3yQxixRBCls
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Old 19-05-2011, 02:12 PM   #23
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How the Jews stole Britain (Read from the start as later the thread got hijacked)

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=108161

How do you know if a revolution is Jewish?

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=156069

You DEFINITELY know its Jewish if the MSM ignore it so maybe in Spain we have an exception
I understand history and have the knowledge thanks....
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Old 19-05-2011, 02:16 PM   #24
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The people of Britian are too busy protesting about cuts to their gravy train socialist state. They 'demand' the free hand outs and easy money continue to be printed.

The protest should be about politicians and the corrupt system like these protests.

I wont join any protest that is a left wing socialist anti cuts bullshit protest.
Totally. I'm apolitical when it comes to the mainstream parties. We need a system shift. It seems that most of the population are still enchanted by the 'bread and circus" mind trick...

I was a strong advocate of a rolling house based on the Jury service vibe. If that system can be trusted with delivering justice, then trust the people to deliver fair law...
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Old 19-05-2011, 02:17 PM   #25
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I'll cheer when they stop killing bulls for entertainment purposes.
hopefully the bulls will be replaced with politicians.
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Old 19-05-2011, 02:17 PM   #26
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I take it you've heard this great speech by 'Cristina'?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=3yQxixRBCls
Did you hear the commentantators at the beginning? what a bunch of SOBs. That's how they manipulate public opinion. We need more Cristinas shutting these corporate bastards down.

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Old 19-05-2011, 02:23 PM   #27
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Totally. I'm apolitical when it comes to the mainstream parties. We need a system shift. It seems that most of the population are still enchanted by the 'bread and circus" mind trick...

I was a strong advocate of a rolling house based on the Jury service vibe. If that system can be trusted with delivering justice, then trust the people to deliver fair law...
Yeah i agree. Protest should be about total change, not tinkering with spending.
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Old 19-05-2011, 02:24 PM   #28
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Their website is still down, but I just got their manifesto in English through the cached pages

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Manifesto (English)

We are ordinary people. We are like you: people, who get up every morning to study, work or find a job, people who have family and friends. People, who work hard every day to provide a better future for those around us.

Some of us consider ourselves progressive, others conservative. Some of us are believers, some not. Some of us have clearly defined ideologies, others are apolitical, but we are all concerned and angry about the political, economic, and social outlook which we see around us: corruption among politicians, businessmen, bankers, leaving us helpless, without a voice.

This situation has become normal, a daily suffering, without hope. But if we join forces, we can change it. It’s time to change things, time to build a better society together. Therefore, we strongly argue that:

The priorities of any advanced society must be equality, progress, solidarity, freedom of culture, sustainability and development, welfare and people’s happiness.

These are inalienable truths that we should abide by in our society: the right to housing, employment, culture, health, education, political participation, free personal development, and consumer rights for a healthy and happy life.

The current status of our government and economic system does not take care of these rights, and in many ways is an obstacle to human progress.

Democracy belongs to the people (demos = people, krátos = government) which means that government is made of every one of us. However, in Spain most of the political class does not even listen to us. Politicians should be bringing our voice to the institutions, facilitating the political participation of citizens through direct channels that provide the greatest benefit to the wider society, not to get rich and prosper at our expense, attending only to the dictatorship of major economic powers and holding them in power through a bipartidism headed by the immovable acronym PP & PSOE.

Lust for power and its accumulation in only a few; create inequality, tension and injustice, which leads to violence, which we reject. The obsolete and unnatural economic model fuels the social machinery in a growing spiral that consumes itself by enriching a few and sends into poverty the rest. Until the collapse.

The will and purpose of the current system is the accumulation of money, not regarding efficiency and the welfare of society. Wasting resources, destroying the planet, creating unemployment and unhappy consumers.

Citizens are the gears of a machine designed to enrich a minority which does not regard our needs. We are anonymous, but without us none of this would exist, because we move the world.

If as a society we learn to not trust our future to an abstract economy, which never returns benefits for the most, we can eliminate the abuse that we are all suffering.

We need an ethical revolution. Instead of placing money above human beings, we shall put it back to our service. We are people, not products. I am not a product of what I buy, why I buy and who I buy from.

For all of the above, I am outraged.
I think I can change it.
I think I can help.
I know that together we can.I think I can help.

I know that together we can.

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Old 19-05-2011, 02:33 PM   #29
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I suggest this becomes a sticky so people can continue to get the word out there ESP cos the PTB have taken down their website...

Everyone needs to keep an eye on this as this could spread across Europe...
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Old 19-05-2011, 02:35 PM   #30
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grrr they are trying to cover it up not transmitting anything on the TV and other media.

Go Spain, pick up your weapons and fight!
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Old 19-05-2011, 02:36 PM   #31
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grrr they are trying to cover it up not transmitting anything on the TV and other media.

Go Spain, pick up your weapons and fight!
What weapons?
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Old 19-05-2011, 02:39 PM   #32
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I suggest this becomes a sticky so people can continue to get the word out there ESP cos the PTB have taken down their website...

Everyone needs to keep an eye on this as this could spread across Europe...
For some reason I don't feel like this is it; but it's definitely the beginning of something good. Who knows, maybe those who said 2012 would bring a huge change were not wrong after all.
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Old 19-05-2011, 02:41 PM   #33
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What weapons?
The pitchforks!!!
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Old 19-05-2011, 02:43 PM   #34
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Default Greetings from Spain

There is limited information here also, just enough to cover there are people on the street, but not much more.

On this page, at the bottom, you can see a map of the geographycal coverage of the people sittings, no clear information on numbers.

http://www.lavanguardia.com/politica...el-govern.html

The beautiful thing is, all ages, conditions, professions, average people Good to live it, now.
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Old 19-05-2011, 02:45 PM   #35
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The pitchforks!!!


Molotovs might come in handy but they got much bigger weapons. I wonder how it would go down if it develops into a full blown revolution (not just in Spain, but UK and elsewhere).
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Old 19-05-2011, 02:48 PM   #36
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For some reason I don't feel like this is it; but it's definitely the beginning of something good. Who knows, maybe those who said 2012 would bring a huge change were not wrong after all.
It looks like the first indications of mass awakening. Focus is on electoral system, banking system, and the right for the people to take their right place and have the system serving the general good, not the other way round.
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Old 19-05-2011, 03:07 PM   #37
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THE EYE OF HORUS, THE WITNESS OF THE "spontaneous" demonstrations
Coincidence?


NOTHING TO CHANCE

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Old 19-05-2011, 03:09 PM   #38
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They would not fool anybody if the evil police did not release a bit of rubber, of course this does not know the filthy fifties who took the place if not the strategist who designed the show.

Why not go to the Moncloa?
Why are the same puppeteers who supported the eyebrow? ^
Why do not you cry ZP resignation?
Why not call for abstention and vote for the minority?
Why are most active in areas peper?
Why after 7 years of collapse is now manifest, 7 days before the election?
Why PSOE barons claim to support their claims but have not done anything during his administration?
Why Rubalcaba (Minister of Interior and brass ABSOLUTE POLI) said that their friends and Cayo Lara (iu) are your children?
Why not a word of Terrorism and Immigration when problems that lead the ranking of public concerns?
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Old 19-05-2011, 03:09 PM   #39
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Don't be silly, what's that to do with the protests???
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Old 19-05-2011, 03:11 PM   #40
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The pitchforks!!!
You say it in jest but they should never have put their pitchforks down and embraced capitalism the way they did.

Spain is a peasant nation filled with weak-minded farmers, wine makers and people who stab bulls. They exported that same mindset to South America too.

Sometimes the hat just doesn't fit. Britain and Germany and the people who lived here/there (well, the ones that used to - the natives. . . .yes, natives) were geared up for it. Hard working, resiliant and full of ideas. Spain, Italy, Greece et al just wanted a piggy back or a gravy train to jump onto. The real problems in Europe will begin when the UK and Germnay start rioting and protesting. . . . TPTB couldn't give a shit about Spain, Italy, Greece because they're too bloody lazy to make anything stick!

France is a different kettle of fish. They have a foot in each camp and if they weren't so petty with all of their previous protests over minor issues there would be a big problem if they decided to kick off too. Mind you, I still think the frogs are a bunch of lazy, garlic munching, bicycle riding (bread in the basket - naturally), pique wearing, stripey top sporting bunch of wankers.
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