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Old 16-06-2013, 08:09 PM   #941
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Maybe, just maybe, I'm not looking for what is. I'm looking for...
There's no 'looking for' here!

It's simply this.

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Old 16-06-2013, 08:11 PM   #942
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There's no 'looking for' here!

It's simply this.

We're back to This.
Only the looking for is for That!
LOL
The carrot...
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Old 16-06-2013, 08:13 PM   #943
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There's no 'looking for' here!

It's simply this.


Perhaps not here, or ever will be, in this thread.
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Old 16-06-2013, 09:01 PM   #944
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The carpet is on the floor....the night is getting darker outside....an itch is scratched on a nose....the cat is still asleep....tea is sipped....the clock is ticking on the wall....an advert is on the television....a car drives by....the central heating switches on....lemonade is in a bottle on the table....the wallpaper is red....clothes feel warm....keyboard cooler....tea is sipped....cat slowly stretches....candle flame flickers....

I am...
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Old 16-06-2013, 10:00 PM   #945
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I am all there was , all there is and all there will be...

Just prefer to change what was to a better is in hope for a even better there will be...
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Old 16-06-2013, 11:53 PM   #946
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I am all there was , all there is and all there will be...

Just prefer to change what was to a better is in hope for a even better there will be...
Brilliant!

And the fullfillment of that is here...here...here...here....

Never not.
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Old 18-06-2013, 06:35 PM   #947
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We can say that it is certainly true on one level that the little sapling is in some "potential" sense a tree, destined to grow into one if conditions are right. But the sapling is not yet fully functioning and serving as a full-grown tree, capable of providing shade, fruit, flowers, medicinal herbs from its bark, etc.

In the same way, all sentient beings truly have the Divine Atma-Self as their real Identity.

But are they maturely functioning and fully serving as the Self?

Are they really manifesting the Divine virtues of self-sacrificing compassion, generosity, empathy, goodness, kindness, and all-embracing love that we find in the true spiritual masters?????

Or are they still plagued by egotism in various subtle or not-so-subtle fashion,

but rationalizing and justifying all such egocentricity as "God's will"?

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Old 19-06-2013, 02:02 AM   #948
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You love your subtle levels don't ya lonestar!

LoL

All the best bro!
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Old 22-06-2013, 10:28 PM   #949
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There's no 'looking for' here!

It's simply this.

What is this?
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Old 22-06-2013, 11:50 PM   #950
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What is this?
The moment...
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Old 22-06-2013, 11:57 PM   #951
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Seeking means thought and no thought is involved in enlightenment.

That that can be named is not it.

Or words to that effect by Lao Tzu

It’s a bit like looking out over the ocean at an amazingly beautiful sunset. There are no thoughts. Once a thought presents, it becomes just another sunset.
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Old 23-06-2013, 04:26 AM   #952
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Seeking means thought and no thought is involved in enlightenment.

That that can be named is not it.

Or words to that effect by Lao Tzu

It’s a bit like looking out over the ocean at an amazingly beautiful sunset. There are no thoughts. Once a thought presents, it becomes just another sunset.
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Old 23-06-2013, 10:38 AM   #953
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What is this?
Not these words.
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Old 23-06-2013, 10:51 AM   #954
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Seeking means thought and no thought is involved in enlightenment.

That that can be named is not it.

Or words to that effect by Lao Tzu

It’s a bit like looking out over the ocean at an amazingly beautiful sunset. There are no thoughts. Once a thought presents, it becomes just another sunset.
Hello rosedancer,

Whether it's an amazingly beautiful sunset without thought or emptying the cat litter holding one's nose....it's just 'what is'.

'Specializing' in the limited, misses the entirety.
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Old 23-06-2013, 01:20 PM   #955
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Not these words.
Oh. I thought it was this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRoHNHylBkc
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Old 23-06-2013, 10:19 PM   #956
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There is no truth my friend!

So no defense or offense needed.

There....your search is over.

ROFLMAO!!!
There is no self, no friend, no mirror, and there sure as fuck aint no empty void of nothing...

just the flavor of truth.

was that "subtle" enough for ya oaps? lol

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Old 23-06-2013, 10:43 PM   #957
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so tony parsons is saying were unconditional love?

Thats rich coming from him.

And its sounds like a concept from him

a big separation.....

maybe the old man is gettin confused
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Old 24-06-2013, 06:06 AM   #958
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so tony parsons is saying were unconditional love?
I guess that's how he experiences it.

I guess you'll have to believe him.. at least until you have your own experience of whatever he is talking about.
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Old 24-06-2013, 09:40 PM   #959
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was that "subtle" enough for ya oaps? lol
Yeah, about as subtle as a brick!

And Mods; can I change my name to oaps? lol

Or maybe soap?

Again; when are you visiting the UK lonestar?
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And Mods; can I change my name to oaps? lol

Or maybe soap?

Again; when are you visiting the UK lonestar?
there are at least a half dozen people that live in the uk, that i just have to meet in this lifetime, and i plan on going the summer of 2014.

and i dont care if the mods change your name or not, im only going to call you oaps from now on. lol

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