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Old 12-01-2012, 07:17 PM   #21
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Thanks for keeping this thread updated. I've been very intrigued by this invention. I don't honestly understand how it works, as pulling charge off the back emf should put load on the system in excess of the energy input to the motor, but that's where the invention is!

Just a quick question -- is this your project or are you just reporting on it?

Thanks.
I'm just keeping people apprised of what is going on.
I put a few hundred dollars behind it
because it looks viable and its the kind
of thing which would pay dividends to be
in on early. I plan to invest more soon.

Here is the latest from Thane Heins:

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Hello Everyone:

Just a quick update to let everyone know that we have confirmed ReGenX Distribution Licensing requests with:

HERO Electric (India)
Myers Motors (Ohio, USA)
Xavier Technologies (Massachusetts, USA)

Manufacturing Licenses confirmed or possible pending with:

Toroid Technologies (Toronto, Canada)
NuGen Mobility (Virginia, USA) - Demo and visit with negotiations next week.

The scooter project's extra components arrived last week minus the rubber required to "hit the road" - it is now on route.

Kind regards
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Hello Everyone,

Please find below an updated

Commercialization Progress Report:

  1. Potential Difference Inc and Myers Motors (http://myersmotors.com/) will be going to Virginia next week to meet with NuGen Mobility's (http://www.ngmcorp.com/) CEO and VP of Engineering to discuss the development of the ReGenX technology for Myers automobiles.
  2. PDI has our own coil manufacturer (Toroid Tech) and rotor manufacturer (Electron Energy Corporation) and NuGen Mobility will be the motor controller supplier if all goes well.
  3. Actual motor final assembly is slated to be done at Toroid Tech in Toronto but this is still TBD.
  4. Dr. Steven Chu, Secretary of Energy - United States Department of Energy, will be at Myers Motors on Wednesday and they are trying to line up a ReGenX demo for him. Myers Motors is involved in an Energy Round Table Discussion with Dr. Chu at a Cleveland Ohio University and they are going to try to get us set up in an engineering lab and then invite Dr. Chu to come and see a 5 minute demo.


Investor Opportunity and PDI Strategy



Anyone can invest any amount they want, as often as they want. (Cheque, cash, email transfer, western union, pay pay even!) Shares will be equal to the percentage of the total amount of shares distributed in equal proportion to your contribution as a percentage of the total amount of PRE-HERO ELECTRIC EXCLUSIVE LICENSING DEAL received. The conversion to shares will happen immediately prior to the Hero Electric licensing arrangement once the negotiations are complete and signing is imminent. The company may not be taken public as it may not be necessary depending on the investment received and exclusive licensing purchase from Hero Electric which can potentially be in the 100s of millions. PDI's job is to convince HERO that this is a good business strategy. The door is now open for pre-Hero Electric licensing. Right before we sign the deal with Hero Electric that door will be closed. Once signed, the door will be opened again and the share value of those who invested early will be much higher while the cost for those to invest after will be much higher.

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Electric Car Myers Motors/ReGenX Generator Integration Project

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Myers Motors EV / Potential Difference Inc. ReGenerative Acceleration Generator Integration Project first drive.

ReGenX Technology represents the culmination of 11 years of research and development by PDI looking at ways to reduce generator armature reaction - the "braking" component of regenerative braking. Generator armature reaction (EV regenerative braking effects) are a result of the generator inducing a counter-electromotive force inside the generator when current flows in the generator coils and the batteries are being recharged. This counter-electromotive force is simply another name for "repelling magnetic field."

PDI ReGenX Technology delays the generator coils' ability to create a repelling magnetic field until the generator's rotor magnetic field is top dead center to the coil. At this time (TDC) the ReGenX generator coil produces a delayed repelling magnetic field which repels the rotor's magnetic field with additional force which is now already moving away from the coil. The result is a reversal of the electromotive force induced inside the ReGenX generator from a counter-electromotive force to complimentary-electromotive force.

By reversing the Regenerative Braking effects and creating Regenerative Acceleration in it's place - EVs can now recharge their batteries while accelerating (from 10 km/hr and up), also while coasting, and while braking.

The Regenerative Acceleration Generator recharging goal and range increase is 30 - 50%.

PDI is now in the process of licensing the IP and is integrating the technology into electric vehicles.

PDI is offering free Non-Exclusive licensing to our developmental partners (at this stage) and our goal is to create mutually beneficial collaborative and cooperative business arrangements which encourage and support the quickest integration of the technology for the electric vehicle industry as a whole while honoring individual contributions.

Kind regards
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Two updates from Thane today, one of them very good news.


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Please find below an updated Investor status report - please double check for accuracy.

Commercialization Progress Report

PDI and Myers Motors have agreed in principle to form a Joint Venture to integrate the ReGenX Technology into the Myers Motors Duo and NMG electric cars.
Myers Motors is looking for funding and we have agreed to work together to assist each other.
NuGen Mobility of Virginia was provided with a technology demonstration last week and they are now considering providing the engineering hub role.



Myer's Motor's double-seated 'Duo' electric car




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OK here is an "updated" investor update...

Myers Motors is in!
NuGen Mobility is in!

CODA Automotive is interested in a conference call next week - I spoke to the company VP today.
Myers Motors introduced ReGenX Technology to the Director of GM's Chevy Volt Program yesterday.

Cheers
Thane
Apparently NuGen Mobility is going to help engineer the ReGenX generator into the motor of the Myers Motors 'Duo' electric car.

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POTENTIAL +/- DIFFERENCE INC.

Regenerative Acceleration Generator (ReGenX)
Commercialization & Investor Report January 2012:

this is a .pdf file
to get it, click on the green 'download' link after
going here:


http://www.mediafire.com/?4lhm7b84zos4hb4



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PDI ReGenX Technology delays the generator coils' ability to create a repelling magnetic field until the generator's rotor magnetic field is top dead center to the coil. At this time (TDC) the ReGenX generator coil produces a delayed repelling magnetic field which repels the rotor's magnetic field with additional force which is now already moving away from the coil. The result is a reversal of the electromotive force induced inside the ReGenX generator from a counter-electromotive force to complimentary-electromotive force.
Okay, NOW I understand what they're doing and will no longer suspect voodoo.

Meanwhile, I really like the look of the Myers Motors new vehicle. Looking at their page I see they bought the remaining Corbin Sparrow chassis and are building them with some different hardware and selling them under a new name -- NMG, for No More Gas. That's good. A friend of my wife bought a Sparrow and eventually had to sell it back to the company (that was their answer to keep the problem out of court). As in any new technology the Sparrow had quite a few problems with crucial details. The bodies are great, but the chargers and power controllers had a terrible failure rate. Our friend tried to use his Sparrow for a commute well within the vehicle's performance envelope but had to be rescued on the roadside several times.

The 2-seat Duo they're developing looks like a very nice vehicle. I hope they can get them on the road.
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Okay, NOW I understand what they're doing and will no longer suspect voodoo.

Meanwhile, I really like the look of the Myers Motors new vehicle. Looking at their page I see they bought the remaining Corbin Sparrow chassis and are building them with some different hardware and selling them under a new name -- NMG, for No More Gas. That's good. A friend of my wife bought a Sparrow and eventually had to sell it back to the company (that was their answer to keep the problem out of court). As in any new technology the Sparrow had quite a few problems with crucial details. The bodies are great, but the chargers and power controllers had a terrible failure rate. Our friend tried to use his Sparrow for a commute well within the vehicle's performance envelope but had to be rescued on the roadside several times.

The 2-seat Duo they're developing looks like a very nice vehicle. I hope they can get them on the road.
this generator is a very exciting product in development with all sorts of applications well beyond electric vehicles.

That two seat Duo will be a very nice product, especially if they get the ReGenX generator installed into them and they go hundreds of miles on one
charge. I picture a convertible version of the duo being made available, so what you have is an ultra-safe motorcycle/trike type of vehicle appealing as equally to motorcycle enthusiasts as motorists.

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the following video features testimonies from Christopher Kuntz of Wind Turbine manufacturer Repower Systems Inc., Mike Brace, Technical Editor for EVWorld.com, Mark Anderson, president of Retechnology (power and water engineering), and Charles Abramson of Terra Endeavors:


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so for the price of 30 billion + each, we can get a scooter light going at home?
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Thane Heinz's REGENX just got a great endorsement from Mike Brace
Technical Editor of Electric Vehicle World magazine (evworld.com):

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Mike Brace's TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES

Heins Effect Gaining Credibility


Monday | March 19, 2012



"Don't worry about people stealing an idea. If it's original, you will have to ram it down their throats."

-Howard Aiken, US computer scientist (1900 - 1973)


Back in July of 2010 I wrote a story called The Heins Effect. It was a simple story about a self-taught inventor who asked a stupid question and got a stupid answer. 30+ years ago Thane Heins was a young, naive student at Ottawa University when he asked the professor teaching the electric motors/generators class an obvious question about efficiency, 'If you could figure out a way to retard [withhold] the counter-EMF on the advancing magnet by 10% would you not increase its overall efficiency by 10%?'. 'Why even bother answering that question, because if you did you would be violating several laws of physic, so you can't do it' was the reply. And that was that.

It may not have been the actual word-for-word conversation that took place, but Thane gave us this short synopsis when asked what sparked the idea for his technology. He had an idea in his mind when he asked that question (a flash of genius you might say) but buried it in his collective and went on with life. I gleaned that little bit of history from Thane last Monday while I was attending the RegenX demonstration in Toronto that he was giving for his investors and technical staff.

Fast forward to post-911: Thane, like many other eco-engineers, wanted to stop the oil wars so he started thinking about his ideas again. He grabbed his ideas, some electric motors and headed down into the basement where disaster awaited. I'll spare you the details of the first time he plugged in his Regenerative Acceleration prototype, but suffice to say it got away from him but in a good way. And from that first disaster Thane knew he was on the right track so he has spent the last 10+ years coming to grips with what he discovered and the last few years trying to explain it. And I have spent the last 48 hours doing the same.

When I last spoke to Thane several years ago he had come to grips with the mechanics of his technology, but not quite the explanation of it (at least not one that most engineers could understand). He could prove it in the lab to anyone that questioned it but without that basic, rock solid and understandable explanation of how his electric motor can draw less energy, and accelerate at the same time, most of his naive collogues just scratched their heads and walked away. Well, as a mechanical engineer I'm here to explain how it works and why it works. And it does work; over a dozen of us were witness to that last Monday (as well as a film crew--filming in 3D no less!)

Let's start with my feeble explanation of the mechanics of how a permanent-magnet electric motor works--then I'll work my way up from there. The coils provide rotational force to the rotor when the coils are energized with current (amps). Energized in sequence they form a rotating magnetic field (the Electro-Motive Force; EMF) that attracts the magnets of the rotor and thus it rotates with force. An opposite EMF is also formed as the magnet approaches the coils and--based on the strength of that back-EMF -- it determines how fast you can rotate the magnets through it before it stops accelerating.

The conventional laws of physics (and those governing electric motors/generators) tells us that the faster we pass the magnet through the EMF the more current is needed (or generated) to the point where the magnets cannot go any faster due to back EMF [resistance to the magnetic field]. If you quit supplying electrical current to the coils the rotor eventually freewheels to a stop over time. If you short out those coils (let's say to a battery) then the magnetism in the rotating magnets supply current to those coils the motor, it becomes a generator and slows down even faster because it's under load (via it's self-induced EMF). This is called Regenerative Braking and it can be used to convert the momentum of the vehicle to electricity and [ultimately] to put some of that electricity back in the battery and extend the range of the vehicle.

Still with me? I'm almost there... now picture if you will a flywheel attached to the pigtail of this electric motor, and on this flywheel are the same type of magnets. If you were to place some standard coils next to these magnets you have a duplicate of what's inside. Put Thanes proprietary Regenerative Acceleration coils next to those magnets you have something exciting.

As Thane has come to understand he has figured out a way to store the latent electrical energy in those rotating magnets as high voltage between the coils (not as magnetic field around his coils) and not in them either; a capacitor of types (if you care to imagine). Since it is current flowing through the coils that causes the magnetic fields around them (and not the volts) Thanes' coils offer no EMF [resistance] as the magnet approaches. Just as the magnets pass top-dead-center to the coils... POW! His coils release the voltage into the coils by shorting them out to the batteries--converting it to amps--and the magnet field is almost instantly created. Since the magnets on the flywheel are now moving past the magnetized coils they accelerate away from it, adding torque to the motors' rotor. This 'assist' helps lowers the amount of electricity needed to drive the motor and the current that is created (from these coils) is fed back into the batteries. How much electricity? Thane claims that if he designs the motor and his regenerative acceleration coils together (as a package) he has seen as much as 200% increase in output. It almost seems like free energy... creepy, huh.

By now if you are like me you are asking yourself ìWhere is that free energy coming from?' Thane has his ideas and I have mine, but from where I stand the answer is obvious: the magnets. Just as a permanent magnet motor is more powerful and efficient than an AC induction motor, this extra energy is stored as a magnetic field in the high-density rare earth magnets. True, over time the magnet should lose their magnetism but if that's the case they could be recharged easily enough.

Now, let me explain what you see in real life. You see an electric vehicle that--when underway and not under full load--will actually gain in top end and recharge the batteries at the same time. However, if you stop turning the motor you stop the Regenerative Acceleration; and it cannot start the motor up. If you put the pedal-to-the-metal to make it up a steep hill you will start draining the batteries. There's no unlimited free ride here. But if you stay on the flat and level theoretically you could go on until your bladder tells you otherwise.

I have tried to describe an electric motor used to provide motive power for electric vehicles and provide extended range as well, but if you think about it, there are some other unique uses for Thanes' generator. Put one between some solar panels & the batteries and you have just doubled the output of the panels. Put one off the end of a diesel generator and you get an increase in output. The possibilities are endless, as are the questions and the skeptics I'm sure. But please, if you're asking me, try to keep the questions limited to mechanical ones. As I stated in my first article, when it comes to electricity I'm lucky if I get the batteries in the right way. If I have sparked your imagination, or you just want to build the next generation mousetrap, then I invite you to contact Thanes' group, Potential Difference, at [email protected] or, better yet, call him at 613-759-1602. And tell him EV World sent you... it always gives him a good laugh.

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http://evworld.com/article.cfm?storyid=1890

The Heins Effect

EV World's Tech Editor investigates Thane Heins' inexplicable discovery

By Michael Brace

July 09, 2010

I remember when I was in college and read about the Josephson Effect for the first time. I was studying to be an Aerospace Engineer, but I had made cryogenics and cold-temperature physics a hobby and followed the science with great interest. In the '70s (about the time I was in school) Brian David Josephson discovered that electron pairs undergo quantum tunneling with zero resistance when crossing a barrier separating two [cryogenic] superconductors. He also discovered that the effect can be manipulated by varying a magnetic field at the junction where the tunneling occurs. This phenomenon was named after him. And, while current applications include the very precise standardization of the volt at the time of his discovery, I also got the impression that he wasn't too sure as to what else he could do with it.

Regardless of how insignificant his discovery was thought to have been at the time, it was a significant enough of a discovery to allow him to share the Nobel Prize for Physics in 1973. As history has proven, there have been several new technologies [based on this effect] and it has proven in more ways than one to turn a profit.

So maybe Necessity isn't always the Mother of Invention and occasionally it has to work in the other direction as well. Has Thane C. Heins from Ontario Canada done the same thing; has he discovered a law of physics hereto unknown but intriguing enough to spur the imagination for some modern-day Teslas? MIT thinks so, as do a host of other legitimate laboratories. And so does Thane.

I became aware of Thane's efforts several years back because of my work in EVs (Electric Vehicles). If you had invented an electric motor/generator that can actually help drive itself, you could be sure other EV engineers [like me] might take notice of this 'device'. And that's just what Thane has done; in laymen's terms he has a 'device' that has figured out a way to take the magnetic resistant forces produced by a permanent magnet generator (aptly called EMF; Electro Motive Force) to work for, not against the generator. I'll say it again, but first an educational primer on motors and generators.

Whenever you move a magnet though coils of conductive wire you create an electrical current from which you can draw from at the ends of the wire. Conversely, whenever you run an electric current though coils of conductive wire you stimulate a magnetic field in those wire coils; this magnetic field is used to attract the magnets in a rotor to produce rotary torque. In the first case you are operating a conventional electric generator, and in the second case you are operating an electric motor. In both cases the strength of the electrical current, or of the magnetic field, depends on the strength of the complimentary component. That much we all learned in high school physics class.

However, if you went on to learn more about electric motors, you also learned that the EMF produced by generating a current in the coils of the generator normally works to slow a generator's rotor down. This magnetic field serves to repulse the very same magnets generating the current, so left unattended the rotor [with the magnets] wants to slow down when you remove the rotary torque from it. Not so, according to Thanes' work. He has figured out a way to configure the coils in his generator to switch the polarity of the EMF so that it serves to assist the rotation of the generator rather than hinder it. In effect, it becomes its own motor.

If you are scratching your head right now trying to figure out how this perfectly logical argument seems illogical, don't worry, you're not alone. Every report I read from every lab that tested his 'device' ended up pointing that out in their summary as well. They don't know why it works, or just how it does what he said it would do, only that if you asked the 'device' to provide more electrical power [through load] it would not only do so, but the rotor would speed up AND the input torque to the rotor would drop at the same time. You can see why electric car enthusiast and R&D engineers (such as myself in both cases) would be interested in Thane's discovery, as are several other companies in which he is working with to do more show-n-tells.

Be careful here…if you think about what he has done you might be tempted to say his device defies the conventional laws of physics. And (even as he admits) you might be right. But then again that's why David Josephson's 'effect' uses the word "quantum tunneling" and not "conductivity" to explain how a current passes though resistive material with no resistance. We too may need to re-define the laws of electro-mechanical physics as quantum physics has.

Now to the meat of this article: Thane has asked me re-introduce his ideas to the media in such a manner as to get most readers to grasp his discovery without dismissing it due to a hundred years of preconceived notions. Not an easy task and I told him I would probably fail just as the other journalists before me have tried [and failed]. Most failed, not only because of preconceived notions about what they learned in physics class, but because they couldn't understand the "how or why" of the 'device' nor his visions for its future.

However, unlike most journalists writing about technology, I am a degreed engineer with over 25 years experience as an R&D engineer with over a dozen patents covering 'devices' and methodologies that have never been seen or done before. Knowing that, you might think I would believe myself up for the task, but I don't; and for the same reasons that other journalists can't convince you (the reader): knowing what he knows about how his device operates, he can't clearly engineer his way from what he has to what it would be good for; he only has some [what he assumes to be] clearly obvious future uses but he's not 100% sure if he can get there from here without a lot more experiments and prototypes. The only problem is that path takes a lot of time and money.

As I said above, part of his challenge is finding a home for this technology, but as in all new discoveries of physics you have to define the parameters of the discovery before you can figure out where your best shot of success is. Thane has an idea of what his 'device' would be good for, seven of them as a matter of fact; anything from a pure generator to a pure electric motor and everything in between…but all un-vetted in the real world of practical uses because [from an engineering perspective] he doesn't know enough about it to design it into an engineered solution (and neither can I); we both need help here.

Couple his discoveries with his imagination and personal convictions -- for the world to go electric sooner rather than later -- you end up with a highly enthusiastic inventor who can't explain himself to the average education level of the general public (much less the technically suave ones). Add to that the consequences of not be able to engineer a good evolutionary course for the 'device' and you understand why (as Tyler Hamilton, columnist for the Toronto Star put it) "…most [people] just walk away not willing to put the time into helping Thane validate it. And why should they?" You may or may not agree with Tyler's statement, but that last part I understand. Why should they?

I think the more appropriate question here would be: What's in it for them? Unfortunately most of the general public no longer believe that the days of Dr. Jonas Salk (inventor of the polio vaccine who gave it away to mankind for free) will ever come back, and as most pharmaceutical companies will tell you, 'no doctor endorsed by us would give anything away for free; if he/she did they should be labeled as a quack.' Well, maybe I exaggerate a bit, but you get the idea.

I run a lab with over 100 dynamometers, everything from fractional horsepower to over 400 horsepower, and I offered to retest his 'device' for the umpteenth time, but unless I knew what application I was testing it for it would all be redundant and not prove to anybody else what he (and others) already know: his device does what he says it will do but that doesn't mean it will do what he thinks it can do. So there, I have tried to get our loyal readers on the same page and I hope I have succeeded.

There in lays another dilemma: how does one convince others that the age old axiom "If it sounds too good to be true it isn't" may not apply here?

Unfortunately this brings me back to my other reason for writing this article: how to explain to Thane (or any other person for that matter) that in today's MBA -- driven world of 'show me the money first' until he actually defines his 'device' for at least one profitable application, and prove it to the experts that his device works in that application, you can't expect anyone (or any profit-driven company) to help you 'validate' your ideas (much less believe them)…well, anyone except other innovators who have earned a living with their noodle instead of OPM (Other People's Money). But I understand he has found some of them already.

Thane tells me that he has NDAs with several companies and that he is doing just that: making a prototype device that is application specific. Furthermore, he's not asking me to help him looking for investors; he thinks he has enough of those. He asked me to write this article because he's hoping to change the public perception of his discovery so that two other changes could occur: the economy of the world needs to end its dependence on oil sooner rather than later and you need to change your beliefs in the laws of physics. And from what we both know he will never accomplish the first feat in a timely enough manner without accomplishing the second one as well. I for one hope he succeeds on both counts.

Am I right, or did I miss something? More importantly, was I in the least bit successful? Did I open your mind to the possibilities? For his sake--and all of ours-- I hope so. So you tell me…
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quick demo showing prototype with sliding rotors to overcome permanent magnet generator initial cogging torque:

COGGING TORQUE DEMO

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THIS IS AN INITIAL TEST TO DETERMINE THE OUTPUT VOLTAGE AND CURRENT FOR A 12 COIL PROTOTYPE AND TO OBSERVE THE MAXIMUM LOAD ACCELERATION EFFECTS.

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Thane has uploaded this interesting new video showing off their new combination motor/REGEN-X generator.

(The yellow DC motor is attached just so that they can use
the RPM monitor from it during the test)

According to Thane this new machine returns 52% of the motor's power consumption continuously back to the system, and this is with just three coils. (it will be interesting to see how, or if, this works while the machine is moving against resistance)

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Interesting. But the noise and visible vibration in his equipment is pretty alarming. Electric motors and generators should make nearly zero noise. Vibration is a defect. At high rpm out-of-balance rotating objects can become unpredictable projectiles.
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Interesting. But the noise and visible vibration in his equipment is pretty alarming. Electric motors and generators should make nearly zero noise. Vibration is a defect. At high rpm out-of-balance rotating objects can become unpredictable projectiles.
Yes and probably a source of friction and heat, wasted energy and potential damage. That flywheel was also wobbly, if thats linking the two, he could damage his motors.

Interesting video though.
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this next demo shows more clearly what is going on, and he's using
a new double coil system . Interesting results:


by my calculations the output voltage was boosted by 48.4% with
acceleration, using just one of these double coil contraptions

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