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Old 06-11-2016, 01:13 PM   #1
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Default Clinton wants war with Russia, Trump wants war with Iran

Is it a win-win situation for the banking cabal? They always back both sides.

Clinton has anti-Russian rhetoric.

Trump has anti-Iranian rhetoric.

It's most probably all theatre, but Israel is a friend of Russia (loads of Russians living in Israel), so on paper Bibi Netanyahu would not back Hillary Clinton.

The largest number of Russian Jews now live in Israel, not in Russia. Israel is home to a core Russian-Jewish population of 900,000 and an enlarged population of 1,200,000.

Israel's arch enemy we are lead to believe is Iran and Trump is all out against Iran.

Therefore I conclude the Zionists are backing Trump.

Don't vote for either. The last time I voted was in 1997 for Tony Blair .... how naive I was ... "things can only get better!" No they didn't, he took the country to war. So much death and destruction.

Israel settlements legal, Trump aide says, playing anti-Iran video message on Mount Zion



http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2016/10...rusalem-alQuds

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Old 06-11-2016, 01:33 PM   #2
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War is good for business.
Whoever the war happens to be against is irrelevant.
On the basis of 'only fight battles that you can win'.. Iran's a good call.
Russia not so much so.
Putin has decent kit , the Iranians mostly have sand.
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Old 06-11-2016, 01:39 PM   #3
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the Iranians mostly have sand.
Now if that were true, the Americans would have took them out a long time ago.
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Old 06-11-2016, 01:40 PM   #4
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I think it's important to understand that Russia (and China) are still controlled by the same forces, and pretend to be hostile towards the west in order to control their own people. So rhetoric about war, is really code for "culling the masses" as the leaders are all in it together.

Isreal is obviously part of the long term goal of creating war in the Middle-East and destroying Islam, in order to set up some new religion for this astrological cycle.

Peace.
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Old 06-11-2016, 01:47 PM   #5
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The USA won't full on attack Iran because Russia.

They would involve themselves in internecine fighting though, as in Syria, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, and so on.
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Old 06-11-2016, 02:01 PM   #6
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Is it a win, win situation for the banking cabal? They always back both sides.

Clinton has anti-Russian rhetoric.

Trump has anti-Iranian rhetoric.

It's most probably all theatre, but Israel is a friend of Russia (loads of Russians living in Israel), so on paper Bibi Netanyahu would not back Hillary Clinton.

Israel's arch enemy we are lead to believe is Iran and Trump is all out against Iran.

Therefore I conclude the Zionists are backing Trump.

Don't vote for either. The last time I voted was in 1997 for Tony Blair .... how naive I was ... "change is going to happen!" Yes, change happened for the worse, war and destruction.

Israel settlements legal, Trump aide says, playing anti-Iran video message on Mount Zion



http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2016/10...rusalem-alQuds
A great example of wisdom.

I add that Donald has used hard threathening words also about Venezuela.

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Old 06-11-2016, 02:46 PM   #7
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A great example of wisdom.

I add that Donald has used hard threathening words also about Venezuela.
In military terms , a troop of girl scouts armed with catapults could successfully ovethrow Venezuela.
Iran would take a bit more than that but not much. Couple of well aimed nukes and Iran is back to being some desert.
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Old 06-11-2016, 03:24 PM   #8
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Clinton is mad (under control willingly or MKultraed) and Trump is naive if he thinks that USA can attack Iran w/o Russia and China stepping in.
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Old 06-11-2016, 03:41 PM   #9
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Don't give your power away, don't for either of them

26 October 2016

Trump promises Israel he'd stand up to Iran



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Old 06-11-2016, 03:44 PM   #10
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Don't give your power away, don't for either of them

26 October 2016

Trump promises Israel he'd stand up to Iran


This 'don't vote' thang you got going there roast.
Tell us how that works please.

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Old 06-11-2016, 03:49 PM   #11
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Some of us have been saying this for a long time, but it isn't popular in "the alternative media" or should I say the "alt right".

So many people have sold out to promote the fraud named Donald Trump. All a part of the plan.

Amazing how people actually call Trump an anti-zionist.
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Old 06-11-2016, 03:50 PM   #12
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This 'don't vote' thang you got going there roast.
Tell us how that works please.
I'm really not sure why you're on this forum. Change will only happen if the majority of people don't vote.

Don't you ever listen to David Icke? OK, I don't always agree with everything he says, but on voting ... everyone knows they have a choice to vote for two criminal people/parties .... don't participate in this corruption.

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OK you don't vote.
Basically then you have no say apart from whingeing online.
Your call.
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Old 06-11-2016, 03:56 PM   #14
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OK you don't vote.
Basically then you have no say apart from whingeing online.
Your call.
Oh that's a terrible argument. It should be the other way around:

If you vote don't complain!

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Old 06-11-2016, 03:57 PM   #15
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So why is it if you DO vote that you complain?
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Old 06-11-2016, 04:04 PM   #16
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So why is it if you DO vote that you complain?
Cos we can.
Anybody who doesn't vote disenfranchises themself.
Nobody else.
Abstaining is a 'Yes Please' vote for the status quo to continue.
Not saying that all candidates are vote worthy but anybody can stand for election.
If you don't like what's on offer then canvass your own platform and if enough people like it..
You will win.

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Old 06-11-2016, 04:12 PM   #17
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Cos we can.
Anybody who doesn't vote disenfranchises themself.
Nobody else.
Abstaining is a 'Yes Please' vote for the status quo to continue.
Not saying that all candidates are vote worthy but anybody can stand for election.
If you don't like what's on offer then canvass your own platform and if enough people like it..
You will win.
Abstaining is most definitely not a "yes please".

If someone abstains from taking heroin, does that mean they support the illicit heroin trade?

Governments don't want an option for "none of the above" on the ballot box, because that would really identify the numbers who know the system is corrupt from those who are just apathetic.

"The origins of the ballot option "None of the Above" in the United States can be traced to when the State of Nevada adopted "None of These Candidates" as a ballot option in 1976. In 1998 in California, citizen proponents of Proposition 23, titled the "None of the Above Act," qualified a new State ballot initiative through circulated petitions submitted to the Secretary of State. But the measure was defeated in the March 2000 general election 64% to 36%.

No similar options were known to have been permitted, much less approved, on any other state levels, least of all the federal level, as of the middle of August 2016."

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Old 06-11-2016, 04:41 PM   #18
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Which would be worse - War with Iran, or War with Russia ?

But anyway, I was not happy AT ALL when I heard Trump say those things about Iran (months ago) - It was a terrible thing to say. But if Clinton gets in she will definitely go after Iran anyway I think, and everyone else.
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Old 06-11-2016, 04:58 PM   #19
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Abstaining is most definitely not a "yes please".

If someone abstains from taking heroin, does that mean they support the illicit heroin trade?

Governments don't want an option for "none of the above" on the ballot box, because that would really identify the numbers who know the system is corrupt from those who are just apathetic.

"The origins of the ballot option "None of the Above" in the United States can be traced to when the State of Nevada adopted "None of These Candidates" as a ballot option in 1976. In 1998 in California, citizen proponents of Proposition 23, titled the "None of the Above Act," qualified a new State ballot initiative through circulated petitions submitted to the Secretary of State. But the measure was defeated in the March 2000 general election 64% to 36%.

No similar options were known to have been permitted, much less approved, on any other state levels, least of all the federal level, as of the middle of August 2016."
We all know how many people didn't vote after each and every election.
Those stats are published.
Last election I was involved in 20% turned out and voted.
80% didn't bother.
20% turnout is about average for Parish elections in rural areas.
Nobody much gives a feck.
Then, once you get in it starts.
Do you reckon only 20% of people want stuff doing by the parish council?
Nope.
Everybody wants stuff doing.
All the time.

Who gets it done?
Those who were elected get it sorted.
Who gets first call on what gets done?
Everybody equally no matter who they voted for or even if they could not be ersed to vote.
The non voters tend to moan about stuff more though. My call being that.. if you don't like it or could do it better then have a go.
As I said, anybody can stand in any election and the only people who get to do the stuff that administrations have to do are those who get elected to do it.

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Old 06-11-2016, 08:29 PM   #20
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The only choice we seem to have is who do we prefer to wage war against. The opptions do not present any good choices.

Actually it is not even that much of a choice, it is more like do want a proxy war with Russia or do we wanf a direct confrontation with Russia.

The only winners are those who depend on disorder in order to maintian their control.

Time to learn Newspeak, understand that "War is Peace' and accpt this is "1984". George Orwell was right.

Only I do not intend to accept it graciously and as long I can speak, or write I will have a weapon and will use it to the best of my ability. Even if I do no more than stand alongside my Brothers and Sisters at "Sacred Rock" (Mistranslated as Standing Rock by the Wasicu)

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