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Old 01-08-2010, 08:35 PM   #21
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Here's some other alien stuff I posted at another site:

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I think the main types of "aliens" (multidimensional beings, etc.) are:

1) Greys
2) Reptilians
3) Humanoids (human-looking)

From what I've read online, apparently there are groups of greys/grays, they originate from Zeta Reticuli, although other theories suggest they are tools (workers) of the reptilians, from a different time/space, dimension, etc. It is said they are dying out and are trying to save their species by interbreeding with humans. I've read another theory that states the greys from Roswell were evolved humans from who knows how many years in the future, come to alter the time line, after a disaster in our very distant future. I've also read a theory that the grays are evolved dolphins! Still another theory is that the grays are using cattle and humans as a form of nourishment (our hormones and fluids are stuff). (Ew. Not cool.)

Types of Greys

* The short grays (type A) are from Zeta Reticuli. They clone to reproduce, are emotionless, and servants of the reptiles.

* The tall grays (type B) are from Orion. They are more political, seem to be able to perform "miracles," have larger noses, and are more friendly to humans, although still not real chummy.

* A third group (type C) of grays are reportedly from Bellatrix (near Orion). Basically the same as the fist group, but even shorter, and even less friendly.

Whitley Streiber has written in length about the grays.


A big theory by John Lear is that the government agreed to allow a certain number of human/animal abductions in exchange for technology, but that the aliens exceeded their allotment and we didn't get as much technology as was agreed on. A "battle" was fought in Dulce, New Mexico at a secret military base because of this, resulting in loss of over 40 military personnel and scientists. Since then, alien abductions have gone on at the aliens' leisure. Lear estimates 10% of our population is abducted.
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In my opinion, when discussing the reptile aliens, you first have to start with David Icke. Icke believes a reptilian species has controlled/manipulated mankind for thousands of years, through influence from the lower fourth dimension and by actually possessing certain elite humans' bodies (those whose blood is predetermined to be receptive through selective breeding - see the 13 bloodlines).

Synchronistically (and convincingly), Icke is backed up an African man named Credo Mutwa. Mutwa relates the history of the Dogon tribe, who have known about reptilian human-like beings for thousands of years, called Nommo!




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Icke has suffered public and psychic attacks for his beliefs, which in my opinion, leads me to believe he's on the right track. How many times have people been ridiculed (and worse) for introducing new ideas, which seemed false only to be proven true.

The reptiles are beings who do not want us to have new ideas. It is believed that is why they cause the elite to flood the markets with medicines, drugs, and media to pollute our minds/spirits and keep us from evolving. The reptiles are also called Draconians, Saurians, and Sauroids.

Draconians - said to be Nibiru (possibly the Nefilim/Annunaki), see the word "dragon", are winged, are vastly Service to Self, said to come from Orion, a theory is that they are the ones who genetically altered us, one theory is they are responsible for most of the missing children (view us as a food source)

Reptile races have been "famous" since literally at least until we developed written systems. The most famous example is Quetzalcoatl.


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Reptoids.com started by John Rhodes, is a research web site about the reptiles. His theory is that these beings live deep in the earth and are secretly working with the military and other subjects.

Some suggest the reptilians are ancestors of dinosaurs. Also of note, the connections between flying serpents (snakes), bird head beings, amphibious gods, ouroboros, kundalini - coiling up like snake, human reptilian brain. Adam and Eve in the garden with the snake. There are references to reptiles everywhere! These beings are hugely influential in the open. One can only imagine what they do behind closed doors (of course taking into account that ALL of these beings wouldn't have malevolent intentions toward humans)!
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Old 01-08-2010, 08:40 PM   #22
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Here's some stuff on "humanoid" aliens...I already posted the Nordic and Pleiaidian pics, so I'll just re-post the written info:

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Ok, the next group of widely reported aliens/beings are the humanoid ones. They look almost identical to humans, except possibly taller than most of us, and a bit more muscular. By most accounts, this group of aliens is motivated mainly by observation, with little interest in overtly influencing our evolution. They are the silent friends, cheerleading behind the scenes. It is said they disagree with the other species' manipulation of mankind, have a policy of non-intervention, yet try to assist however they can, mainly by contacting "regular" individuals, rather than government leaders, military, or other elite figures and providing encouragement, spiritual insight, etc. instead of technology and the like.
The most popular groups of human-looking aliens are the Nordics, The Andromedans, and The Pleiadians.

Nordics-

* Are blond (although not exclusively), tall, blue-eyed, very attractive
* Women and children are rarely seen in encounters
* Are telepathic, show emotions, and flood contactees with love and euphoria during visits
* Said to originate from the Pleiades
* Some think the Nordics are masquerading as humans to go about unnoticed

Andromedans-

* Said to be human-looking and can travel all over almost instantaneously.
* Spiritually evolved, no longer need a physical body
* Wish to help humanity spiritually, feel connected to us since we all came from the same source
* Have a mother ship called Miria Amour

Pleiadians-

* Several million years ahead of us evolutionary
* Live over 700 years, maintain health through psychic balance, use thought projection to visit other planets, spiritually evolved
* Live in a non-material society, no currency, telepathic, no dishonesty, no desire for power or control
* Are balanced with nature, with High Council governing, desire to raise human consciousness
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Here are some decent links to Billy Meier stuff.

Billy Meier Conversation with Semjase

“We, too, are still far removed from perfection and have to evolve constantly, just like yourselves. We are neither superior nor super-human, nor are we missionaries… we feel duty bound to the citizens of Earth, because our forebearers were their forebearers…” — SEMJASE, Pleiadian Cosmonaut, February 8, 1975


“You call us extraterrestrials or star-men, and you attribute to us superhuman powers even though you do not know us. Regarding this, we are men, like you, but our knowledge and our understanding exceeds yours considerably, especially in the technical field.” — SEMJASE, Pleiadian Cosmonaut, 1975

“We extraterrestrial living forms have no authority yet to interfere by force with terrestrial concerns.”
– PTAAH, Pleiadian Cosmonaut, 1975

I personally like Barbara Marciniak a lot. She channels Pleiaidian beings.

Conversation with Barbara Marciniak

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1) Will you tell us who the Pleiadians are?

That's the big mystery. I really don't know exactly who they are. They introduced themselves, when I first began to channel them, as a collective of multidimensional beings from the star system we call the Pleiades. They claim that they are kin to us, and that they have come back in time from their future to our present time. They say that humankind faces a critical turning point in years between 1987 and 2012, and the choices we've made in their probable timeline have created a massive tyranny.

To solve their dilemma, they've returned to what they call a "nanosecond in the annals of time" to help us more clearly see our choices and possibly create an alternative probability based on personal empowerment and our connection to nature. Otherwise, we may end up as disempowered drones living a nightmare existence as half-human/half-machine beings.
An example of her channeling...

(I am glad I copy/pasted this whole thing then because the link doesn't work anymore!)

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Good evening. We are your ancient family. We come from the star system The Pleiades. We know ourselves as The Pleiadians and we, eons ago, millions of years ago, were your relatives.

When your Earth sphere, Terra, was being formed, there were many who expressed an interest to be pioneers and to go to a new area to learn to experience, to formulate, to create. That was the opportunity and many of our dearly beloved Pleiadians signed on.

The Pleiadian culture is ancient. [It] was seeded from another universe, a universe of love, a universe that moved back to All That Is. The Pleiadians seeded the Pleiadian star system within this universe before the Earth's sphere transfer became available. We formed a tremendous society. We operate with love. We operate with ideas and ideals that you are totally unfamiliar with.

Our technology in your terms would be somewhat similar. We are, in your terms, computerized. We like that term because it represents an overall picture of our abilities. The picture actually only represents one per cent of what we are capable of doing. However, from your point of view, think of us as a computerized society. We are collective energy. We are not of your dimension. The star system of the Pleiades has seven stars, six of which we believe, you may see from the naked eye. There are many planets and we are millions upon millions of miles from your system though we have transportation that can bring us here very quickly. We have many modes of transportation.

Mostly we come in starships. Often mother ships. The mother ships are gigantic, one of your miles, housing thousands. [They are] elongated, one of our fashions, [and] would take, in your terms, days to transport itself here. We have disc ships which can be here quickly, within portions of your day.

We have difficulty at times translating your time system, your hours, your minutes, into what is relative to our system, perhaps less than one quarter of your day. We are an advanced civilization. Our technology is ancient because it is coming from another universe that has evolved back to First Cause.
We chose not to evolve back to First Cause but to go on out of love, to assist the growth of this universe. We were allowed to bring that knowing with us because our technological development is totally in line with the First Cause and we would never operate in any fashion that did not support the love and development of humanity of all creatures in all of this universe. So we were allowed to be here. We were welcomed.

We are the ambassadors, in this star area, this universe, from another universe. We are working with many, not just with Terra, the Earth. We are working in other solar systems, with other planetary creatures, with other creations.

This universe is a vast and new experiment. Different options, we like that word, are being attempted here. Free will reigns in this universe. On Terra you think you have free will but you do not really understand what free will is. Free will encompasses the complete idea that whatever it is that you are wanting you may have. And your sole point in choosing to partake in the planetary system within this universe that has free will was so that you may do whatever it is that you wish.

Terra was formed with specific intents in mind. It was formed to be a center for this solar system, a trade center, a launching pad for ideas. Much like, as different portions of your globe have developed, and different port cities, or areas came into fashion and represented trends, cultural advancements, exchanges of ideas at different points in time, and then fell by the wayside.

The ideal of Terra's role would be the jewel within the universe for its beauty physically to the eye, and this physical beauty would be beheld not just in one dimension but in many dimensions. That it would be a center of tremendous beauty, of tremendous exchange, of freedom, of ideas and beauty and love and peoples, humanities, creatures from all of this universe and star system ideally would have come here and exchanged what it is they had, as goods would be exchanged in the marketplace, with others.

Now, as you know, that has not taken place. Fortunately that is changing. Unfortunately, eons in your past, events occurred that were not anticipated, for when one deals with free will one never knows. There are no expectations with free will, just intentions and hopes. And even intentions sometimes may be transmuted.

Now, that was the original intention. Then eons ago, millions of years ago, there was a disruptive force that became quite pronounced in this area of creation, experimenting as it would be, with another form of being. This experimenting was not evil, it was just another point of view. We speak in very neutral terms so as not to lay blame or prejudice on anyone.

This disruptive force effected Terra greatly. It threw the cosmic forces, the hierarchies into vast confusion. And it has been all these eons, these millions of years that this has been attempted to be righted.

Now, through the last thousands of years we have been assisting the higher spiritual forces, those from the First Cause. Our assistance we freely gave because original family members came to this experiment of Terra and then when those disruptive energies became prevalent and changed the intent of what Terra would be we lost contact with our family members. It was very sad for us, for we had never anticipated this loss.

Being that we as Pleiadians are highly evolved and of great knowing and great connectedness with the First Cause, we knew that this was a temporary loss of family members, though temporary in our terms was millions of years. And though the initial shock was felt literally throughout the universe and universes, we formulated a plan and knew that there would be a time when we would be reunited.

We are your family members who lost contact with you eons ago. We have come to retrieve you. We have come to reestablish contact, to assist you, so that you can now reunite with us, liberate yourselves and choose to come back to the Pleiades or to stay here on Terra and raise the vibration and allow Terra to become what it was originally planned to become, the international exchange, intergalactic international trade exchange center for the universe.

Now, as you may well know, that upon looking at your planet you can shake your head and say, goodness, we have ventured far from our original goal. And, indeed, that is true, you have. However, at this time events are manifesting on your planet that are about to change all of that.

It was known eons ago that there would be a point where the energies would be ripe for contact, for adjustments, for receiving energy for realignment. It was hoped that that juncture would be reached through the opening of the free will bodies, by their own choice, through love.

That is not the case. You have reached critical times. It began peaking 30, 40 years ago, and the activities that have been occurring on this sphere have been of grave concern to all within your universe. The lack of love for humanity, for one another on this planet. Separations of self from self. The missing of the message that you are all one, that you are all connected, that what one does affects the other.

Know that there are many millions on the planet out of the billions, who are awakened, who are moving toward the enlightenment, moving towards the acknowledgement of the First Creator, in whatever minuscule way they can conceive of this vast entity.

What is happening on your planet at this time is that the energy of the First Creator, is being presented to the planet as a whole. When we say "as a whole", there are no groupings that would be select over others. The opportunities exist for everyone. It is the individual humanity's choice to acknowledge the opportunity that presents itself.

[The awakened ones will be] assigned, so to speak, to awaken someone. First Creator energy is now being made available to the planet, on a vast level, vast. It's encircling the sphere. Light frequency is bombarding your planet, though only those who know how to use this energy can feel it. It is as if an invisible force is in your lives and if you are not aware of this invisible force, you will not see it.

Now, if the awakeners approach the awakenees with love, with intent of service, with intent of changing the planetary potential, the planetary history, and also are willing to bond unconditionally with the awakenee, it will be successful. In most cases, those that need now to be awakened are working about this in their dream state and they are in a state of confusion in their waking world and so they are welcoming something that will give them greater power and direction.

The awakenees will need guidance for a short amount of time because of the energy that is available [but] the knowings will happen very quickly, then they, too, [will awaken and empower others]. The more members, the greater members of humanity that are in knowing, the easier the times ahead will be.

We are working, sitting at the edges of our seats. When we say "our", we mean our beings, the star individuals, the star families, the spirit guides, the ascended masters, the callers from the great cause, the First Cause. There are many here. The skies, the atmospheres are full, so to speak, of who we are keeping Terra in force, keeping it alive and vibrant, glowing, and also respecting your free will at the same time.

That is why we say the awakenings are so important at this time. They are of prime concern. Individual awakenings. Word of mouth. It is the best way of accomplishing what it is that needs to be accomplished. Word of mouth. Books are fine. Tapings are fine. But one individual loving another individual liberates, frees. And that individual goes off and creates and effects many others. That is how the process will occur, as we see it.

We stated earlier that Terra is a free will district along with the entire universe, however, there is a code of honor that exists along with free will. And that code of honor represents the respect for life. All of life. The respect, and the commitment to no violation of life. The honoring of life is paramount, and allowing that life.

Now, millions upon millions of years ago when the disruptive forces came in and changed all of that, free will was granted still and we stepped back, and saw and watched, and knew that there would be a time when all of this would come to an apex, as it would be said when the changes could be made.

Disruptive forces have come again. This time they will not succeed. However, the energy is of great influence on the planet at this time because of the technological development and the extent of this technological influence throughout the planet.

We ask that each person individually speak to another. At this point very powerful individuals are being awakened. Those individuals who effect other people, who influence other people are those that are awakening at this time, and are being awakened by those who made agreements, contracts eons ago to perform this service. We see that there will be changes geographically, great changes. Because the changes represent the most benevolent way of realignment. If there were to be great destructions, and there will be some destructions along the lines of warrings, if that were to be the prevalent case upon the entire sphere, it would effect the cosmos so greatly, that in this case it cannot be allowed.

The changes that will happen on the surface of Terra are not definite. They will not be definite until they occur, until energy peaks. The energy will be peaking partially through what's happening on the globe, also through planetary and cosmic influences. The closer you may move towards the misuse of the technology, then of course, Mother Earth, a living, viable, breathing entity, would shift itself rather than destroy itself.

[The] shifts will be of a healing nature, much as the ill person may experience the tremendous fevers and burn and sweat and shake and then heal themselves. If Mother Earth did not shift herself and the misuse of technology would be [a] prevalent paradigm, do you know what would occur? It would be the destruction of the universe.

We do not wish to be annihilated and misuse of your technology on your planet could annihilate a universe. Contemplate on what we are speaking for it is profound.

Many of you are looking for blacks and whites and the universe exists in gray areas. It is not the way you think it is. There is life teeming everywhere that you cannot see. There are many dimensions, there are many forms of beings. What happens in your dimension would effect us all because the building blocks of the universe, of the cosmos are connected. The atoms, the elements are all one. They are universal. Universal tools, so to speak. And through the misuse of one, in one segmented area, it would effect many others. So that is why we say, we are tuning Mother Earth to this knowing. Mother Earth knows this potential happening and would shift herself when the time and the danger becomes great.

Understand that all of these changes are contingent upon the awakenings. If the awakenings happen very quickly and those within the governments, within the arms industries, those within the publishing, communicative areas, television, newspaper, movies, [if] those influential people on the planet are awakened quickly, all could shift. Mother Earth will do whatever is necessary to realign for her own survival.

We are saying that if your intention is to step into the times ahead with joy, and experience, and be a partaker, a conscious partaker of the movement that the planet is selecting, then clearly think of what it is that you want, intend it, plan on it, and then trust that the part of the body located in the solar plexus will guide you along with the heart, to be where it is you need to be. If you are clear in your plannings, if you count on it, if you state it matter of factly, step into the knowing, not the thinking, but the knowing beyond all shadow of a doubt that you will be here in joy, in harmony, in happiness, in creativity, and in greater rejoicing of building the world, the civilization that you all desire, then so shall you be.

Now, think of that for a few moments and choose what it is you want. Examine your hearts about what it is you are wanting. Throw by the wayside those things that are not important to you and put your energy, your thoughts, your hearts, into what it is that is most important. And do not, under any circumstances, be afraid of making a change, for change is going to occur whether you select it or not. So, by consciously selecting a change, whether it be a move, or what have you, [it] may be your method, your means, of moving into the times ahead. Do not resist change. Flow. It may come in the area of relationships, the breakings up or the coming togethers. It may come in the area of employment or a lack of. It may come in the area of sudden abundance presenting itself to you or lack of.

All these events will motivate you towards something. We ask that you go inside, trust the feelings. Trust yourself. One of the most beneficial endeavors that you will be involved with is forming the extended families. With a networking of thirty to fifty people it will be very powerful. We also wish to speak of the availability of outside communication that is waiting to speak with many of you, that is speaking with each and every one of you though you do not acknowledge it. Vast numbers are willing to help.

We ask you to examine your hearts, relinquish your fears, move towards what it is that will be most important. We suggest, and we will assist in these endeavors, that through your dream states you dare to dream of possibilities that seem outlandish. Awakened ones and those becoming awakened are being fed information through the dream state from the vast numbers and given so called ideas. Instigated information. Potentialities of abilities that are far beyond what is available now on the planet. And these will be fun things. These will be joyful things. These will be loving things, healing things, successful things. Play with your dream states and when one of these crazy ideas comes to you, grasp onto it like a hot air balloon and ride it for a while over the topography of yourself and see where it will take you.

We ask you to approach these times with an open mind, a creative mind, a loving mind, to move into the self. To trust the self. Open the heart. To connect with humanity, to awaken the others. To be gentle with who you are. For your difficulties you will lay down as they are old clothes that you will no longer fit into or wear. Your aches, longings and difficulties can all be laid to rest as you move into this great new garment of being.

Many will be petrified of moving into this time for much must be relinquished. Much must be changed and given up. However, we are saying that if the Earth itself did not change in its seasons, it would be pretty dreary indeed. And so fall needs to come and the winter set to rest so that in spring there may be regrowth, revitalization and awakenings. This is what you'll be experiencing.

We have committed to guide you on this time. There are many who are here loving you, assisting you, doing whatever is necessary. Open your hearts. Open your eyes to what is coming. Do not be afraid. Know that you are surrounded by love and energy greater than at this point you can fathom. So great it is beyond your knowing, though a part of you knows that greatness and brings it to yourself.

We trust that what we have said empowers you, enlightens you, guides you to who you need to be. Move forward. Move in love. Feel the connectedness of all that is.

Look into the eyes of fellow humanity and see yourselves for you are there. Bless each one with the knowing that you have and your awakenings will be greater than you ever imagined.

Call on us for assistance and we will come to you. We send you our blessings, our dearly beloved friends.
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Ok, I'm gonna try to post the rest of what I've got before I get too busy and never get around to it. I think it's worth sharing.

Miriam Delicado is in contact with a "tall blond race" of aliens/beings. I saw a Project Camelot interview with her a few years back and what she said resonated with me.



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“The Tall Blonds are here to help protect the planet from outside forces that may not be known to us at this time.”

“Others who have had contact with the Tall Blonds, receive messages that are geared towards preparations in the event of a sudden global change.”

“they have expressed to me the importance of never following any one person or any one idea as being the only one. That includes me, and my messages. I ask that you question everything I have told you. They ask that you question everything and exclude nothing as being the ultimate truth. It is only through this process you will find truthful answers.”
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Erich von Däniken

I like him a lot. He wrote "Chariots of the Gods," among many others.

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Von Däniken is one of the key figures responsible for popularizing the paleocontact and ancient astronaut hypotheses.

Von Däniken is a co-founder of the Archaeology, Astronautics and SETI Research Association (AAS RA). He developed a theme park called Mystery Park in Interlaken, Switzerland, which opened on May 23, 2003 and closed on November 19, 2006.


His 26 books have been translated into more than 20 languages, selling more than 60 million copies worldwide, and his documentary TV shows have been viewed around the world. Pseudo-archaeology strikingly similar to his has been observed in the literature of the neo-Taoist movement Falun Gong.[1].


The evidence that von Däniken has put forward to support the paleo-contact hypotheses can be categorized as follows:

* Artifacts have been found which are alleged to represent a higher technological knowledge than is presumed to have existed at the times when they were manufactured. Von Däniken maintains that these artifacts have been manufactured either by extraterrestrial visitors, or by humans who obtained the necessary knowledge from them. Such artifacts include Stonehenge, the statues of Easter Island, the Antikythera mechanism, and the Piri Reis map.

* In ancient art throughout the world, themes are observed which can be interpreted to illustrate astronauts, air and space vehicles, non-human but intelligent creatures, and artifacts of a high technology. Von Däniken also points out details that are similar in the art of unrelated cultures.

* Origins of religions might be a reaction to contact with an alien race by primitive humans. The humans considered the technology of the aliens to be supernatural and the aliens themselves to be gods. According to von Däniken, the oral and literal traditions of most religions contain references to visitors from “stars” and vehicles traveling through air and space. These, he says, should be interpreted as literal descriptions which have changed during the passage of time and have become more obscure, rather than as symbolic or mythical fiction. One such is Ezekiel’s revelation in the Old Testament, which he interprets as a detailed description of a landing spacecraft.
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I don't know if any of you are familiar with Dan Burisch? He has some interviews on Project Camelot. I watched one of them. This guy is interesting. I don't know if what he says is true, but he has some crazy theories and supposed experiences. It's entertaining, if nothing else.



Burisch has spoken at length about Stargates, Majestic-12, Looking Glass technology, personal alien encounter (and friendship) with a being called Chi'el'ah, etc. Most of his interviews can be found at Project Camelot's website.

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I am aware of one inter-dimensional species that won't speak with us directly and was communicating via the Orions, the P-52 Orions. That's it. You know I've been 20 years ... It's confusing to me because I've got so many people with such great certitude, and I've been 20 years around these people and either they were the greatest hiders in the world, even while drunk, and some of them drunk and recreationally drunk. (And that's the way and ... best ... I should put that; comes with large amounts of money. Sometimes they pay for products to make them feel good, or whatever...)

I have never... It's been a joke. I hate to put it this way, but a lot of the UFO community, like, for them the stories have been a joke and a lot of them have been proffered by the folkloristic unit in Majestic. They actually promulgated a lot of these stories and now they hand me the bag to come out here and go, “Boo.” You know, “Sorry. The boogey man ain't real.”

I guess the only thing that I'm aware of are the P-45s and the P-52s. The intergrades between them over the 7,000 years between them cannot be contacted, per treaty. The P-52s J-Rods and Orions I am aware of, and the P-45 J-Rods. At the time the P-45s were around, they were unaware that the P-52 Orions, which would then be P-45 Orions, even existed. They didn't even know that they still survived, at the time. And they only found out as a consequence of coming here and the treaty negotiations.
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K: OK, but what about the .... You're telling me that the Stargates were only used one way by ...

D: Used two ways, but one way by transport for delegates in.

K: OK. And that was ...

D: And that was only under extreme circumstances involving international uproar when there were problems with the treaties. Aside from that, products were exchanged back and forth and information was exchanged but it was deemed too dangerous to be handing people back and forth regularly. These things collapse, from what I understand, spontaneously. And if it collapses and you are not out one side or in the other, you're nowhere.

K: OK. So you're telling me that these people have such a conscience they were not sacrificing Americans or other, you know, or military people, to test the Stargate?

D: No. The treaties were basically inflicted on us by the Orions. As they were enforced upon us by the Orions that we needed to do what we needed to do when they figured out that we weren't able to handle the issue ourselves. They looked at their own history and said, “Huh, look at the cave men and women.” OK? After we acted the way that we acted involving the Cube and all of that business. They inflicted the treaty system on us and they said, ”You will behave this way.” We don't have the ability to just take a Stargate and to step through onto the other side without violating the treaty. They don't want us out there. We are dangerous to ourselves, so why would we not be dangerous to another culture? They are sure as hell not gonna let us off this planet.
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K: Are they running our country? Are they running our world?

D: No. No. They're simply constraining what we're able to do. No. We're running our own show down here. Meaning, when I say we, I'm not talking about the common folks that are, you know, like being starved to death every day. We're running our own show politically down here. The statements about ... well, these are mind-controlled this or that, you know, automatons working for the ETs and the government ...No no no no no. These are good hearted and black hearted people - both - all fighting each other to run the geopolitical scenario. hat is an honest assessment from what I've seen was going on. But we are constrained as to what we are allowed to do. Meaning where we are allowed presently to off-world.
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K: ... is ... I'm actually curious whether or not these natural Stargates that do occur in nature are not being accessed by beings, whether they be the Orions or whoever, at will, into this dimension.

D: Well, I've got no information that the P-52 Orions or P-52 J-Rods or the P-45 J-Rods are accessing such a system save the use of time travel technology, gates that move one spot to another and than the use of craft for moving from there to here ... meaning to ... from a spot in Reticulum, for instance, to a place in the Aquarius system, Gliese ... or however it's properly said ... and then, which is the origin, from what I understand, of Project Aquarius itself because they were known to be coming from that direction. And that is, I believe, in the Aquarius constellation. But ...

K: Because they're not ...

D: They use craft, then, to move from there to here but they're using a gravimetric technology to warp time-space, so I suppose that could be the same use. But I don't think it's a situation kind of like, you know, you walk out into a wilderness and see a whole parade of people coming through a Stargate with, you know, 4 heads and 16 eyes, and things like that.

K: Well what about a parade of craft?

D: I don't know. That's the best answer I can give. It's the most honest one I can give. I don't know. I have not in 20 years of history ... of history with Majestic, heard of anything like that from them, meaning as part of either a treaty system or an ongoing operation. However, I've also heard reports of craft being seen in the sky. I've seen craft in the sky which I was not directly involved like the Mae Boyar Park incident in ‘73. I've seen what I believe ... Well I will have to say lights in the sky, not craft.
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D: It is a substantial probability that they have the ability because I've interacted with ones that would ostensibly look human and I really don't like talking about the so-called Men in Black, or Men in Black phenomenon.

K: But when you talk the Men in Black, those were people that, or beings, that ... and you went in, in our last discussion into quite a description of that kind of thing. But I'm talking about somebody who is acting like you and me, looking like you and me, absolutely undetectable ...

D: No.

K: ... and still could be furthering OR could even be ...

D: If they are, they're not J-Rods. If they are, they're not J-Rods. Orions? Possible. Possible. They are very, very brilliant people. The short interactions, the very short interactions that I had with them I was very impressed... Whereas I would not want to be spending that much time around P-45s at all, I would have enjoyed, in fact I would have felt privileged, speaking with them further.

K: Are you talking about ... When you say Orions, are you talking about the Nordics?

D: I think that's how they're usually ... They've been called Talls. They're essentially, you know, the anthropomorphic very tall human beings with blond hair, very large eyes, very blue, pretty eyes. Larger than our eyes, as in ratio to cranium size. The orbits are larger, etc.

They're just brilliant, just absolutely brilliant people. And what I found most intriguing about them was how they modulated what I consider their brilliance through emotion. The emotions coming from them were so less rudimentary, they were so more complex than what even I experienced with Chi'el'ah. I would have really enjoyed spending some more time with them.

K: OK, but they're here on this planet interacting with us, isn't that so?

D: Well they interacted with us. I'm not certain if there are presently any on Earth or not right now. I would say that, that, you know, they're 50,000 years or a little more than that ahead of us, but given the similarity between body structure, between size, even, and body structure, except for thoracic ratio ... similar enough.

I think they could probably, if their eyes didn't look the way their eyes look, they could probably get away with walking around. But their eyes are way larger than ours. And they look essentially like these Bratz dolls that the little tween girls are going after nowadays. You know, the eyes are too large. You see these eyes, these hypersized eyes. I mean, it's fine on a Bratz doll but if you walk this thing out on to the street, it's going to get picked out very quickly.
http://www.projectcamelot.org/lang/e...ript_2_en.html

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A bit more on Dan Burisch and his experience with the "J-Rods" (P-45's). I guess the J-Rods are greys, from what I can tell. These are the beings that supposedly abduct and do experiments on humans. The ones that'll have no qualms about sticking a probe up someone's butt (to paraphrase Burisch). According to Burisch, they are trying to fix something in their own species in their own timeline (they time travel) - so they take genetic samples from us.

They view us basically as ants. Burisch says we are in a treaty with them and that there used to be a stipulation of allotted abductees but that now they are not allowed to abduct humans for experiments (yet the implication is that they still do).
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HOW WOULD ANIMAL MUTILATIONS PLAY INTO ALL OF THIS?

The only thing I could determine is that there is something in the (food) formula that these Greys use because they no longer ingest food through their mouth and take it through the alimentary canal to digest it. Instead, they absorb the nutrients through their skin.

NOW, IS THIS SOMETHING DAN BURISCH HAS CONFIRMED HE HAS KNOWLEDGE OF?

Yes, in fact, he even gave me a name for the process. I don't recall what it was.

SO, THIS OLD STORY FROM THE 1980s ABOUT A GREY SPECIES OF NON-HUMANS PAINTING THEIR SKINS WITH BLOOD AND TISSUE FROM ANIMALS TO ABSORB IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE TRUE, ACCORDING TO DR. DAN BURISCH?

Yes. Not only Dan Burisch, but other sources have given me this very same information - including a retired Marine Sergeant who was active in crash retrievals.


Drawing by Dan Burisch, Ph.D., of J-Rod suddenly encircling the microbiologist with his long arms inside the special environmental sphere inside the Papoose Mountain S-4 facility. Many images and thoughts flooded Dr. Burisch's mind until he lost consciousness. Some of those thoughts were "Look into the eyes of your own brother." "A new heaven, a new earth?" "Find love." The residue of the experience in Dr. Burisch's mind was J-Rod's frustration at being held a "captive" by a "brother" human, linked through past, present and future time lines.
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Erich von Däniken

I like him a lot. He wrote "Chariots of the Gods," among many others.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_von_D%C3%A4niken
I have been reading his books for years, I have a mainly second edition versions of his work (roughly 70s). the only thing that upset me about him was him lying about exploring the artificial tunnels under Ecuador. But besides that, he has inspired me alot.
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Another great man, in my book, one I have also had to honour to actually correspond with is Lloyd Pye, most famous for being the guardian of the Starchild Skull.

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Thanks sh3lly for the fairy pics - daughter loved them .
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Wow Sh3lly the threads become a wealth of information..keep up the good posts
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Thank you!

Here's a cool site:

http://www.ufoevidence.org/

This is also a very cool site with all kinds of info on it:

http://www.rense.com/

http://www.sightings.com/

This is an interesting article by Brad Steiger called "Alien Memories and Dreams"

http://www.ufodigest.com/news/0308/memories.html
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Now these Aliens have always freaked me



The Kelly-Hopkinsville Encounter, one of the creepiest in UFOlogy in recent times. This most unusual event originated on the night of August 21, 1955.
Were those the little green guys that were supposedly immune to shotgun slugs? I remember reading about a case that entailed a farm house and similar looking creatures peeking into the home. Apparently one was shot, but all it did was send it flying backwards. After that, it levitated and flew off, then came back with more.
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Salem, MA
July 16, 1952

During the peak of the 1952 UFO Flap, Shel Alpert, a USCG seaman on duty in the Coast Guard Weather Office at the Salem Coast Guard Station, saw four brilliant lights in the sky. He called another Guardsman to see the lights, but in those few seconds the lights had become more dim. When they brightened again, he quickly took a single photograph through the window of the office. This photo has been published in many books, newspapers and magazines.

Some attempts were later made to explain away the photo as reflections of interior lights on the window through which the photo had been taken. However, some accounts state that it was a screen window rather than glass, which would eliminate this theory. Also, it would seem that one would recognize reflections in the window as they would appear in the same place each day.

In 1962, the USCG wrote that "it has never been determined what caused the phenomenal lights shown [in the photograph]."

http://www.neufor.com/histcas2.html

Here's a better picture...

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Cool mrindigo! Thanks!

There was a UFO wave in 1973, which has always interested me because that was the year I was born.

http://kenny.anomalyresponse.org/WAVE73.htm

http://www.ufocasebook.com/73wave.html

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The 1973 sighting wave was concentrated in the last half of the year, and featured the largest number of humanoid occupant sightings in many years. Several abductions were reported during this period (see Section XIII, UFOE II). The sightings peaked in mid- to late October, with October 17 representing perhaps one of the most extraordinary single days for "high-strangeness" cases in UFO history (see Section XII). Dr. Richard Haines provided this Table 1, 116, Table 1, 117 of aircraft incidents in 1979 (Ref. 8).
Here's a 5 minute clip from 1979 about UFOs and pilot accounts. It's cool!

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The Pascagoula incident was also in 1973.



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A door opened on the ship, they said, and three creatures emerged and seized the men, floating or levitating them into the craft. Both men reported being paralyzed and numb. Parker fainted due to fright. They described the creatures as being roughly humanoid in shape, and standing about five feet tall. The creatures' skin was pale in color and wrinkled, and they had no eyes that the men could discern, and slits for mouths. Their heads also appeared connected directly to their shoulders, with no discernible neck. There were three "carrot-like" growths instead - one where the nose would be on a human, the other two where ears would normally be. The beings had lobster-like claws at the ends of their arms, and they seemed to have only one leg (Hickson later described the creatures' lower bodies looking as if their legs were fused together) ending in elephant-like feet. Hickson also reported that the creatures moved in mechanical, robotic ways.

On the ship, Hickson claimed that he was somehow levitated or hovered a few feet above the floor of the craft, and was examined by what looked like a large football-shaped mechanical eye, about 6 to 8 inches in diameter, that seemed to scan his body. Parker could not recall what had happened to him inside the craft, although later, during sessions of hypnotic regression he offered some hazy details. The men were released after about 20 minutes and the creatures levitated them, with Hickson's feet dragging along the ground, back to their original positions on the river bank.
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The "Secret Tape"

Diamond interviewed the men, who related their story. After repeated questioning, Diamond left the two men alone in a room that was, unknown to Hickson or Parker, rigged with a hidden microphone.

As Jerome Clark, writes, "Sheriff Diamond assumed that if they were lying, that fact would become immediately apparent when the two spoke privately. Instead, they continued to talk in the voices of the terribly distressed." (Clark, 447) This so-called "secret tape" was held on file at the Jackson County Sheriff's department, and has since earned wider circulation amongst UFO researchers and enthusiasts.[1] Parker, who seemed particularly shaken, spoke repeatedly of his wish to see a doctor. A partial transcript of their interrogation and of the "secret tape" is available[2]; immediately below is part of the conversation on the "secret tape", as transcribed by NICAP:

CALVIN: I got to get home and get to bed or get some nerve pills or see the doctor or something. I can't stand it. I'm about to go half crazy.

CHARLIE: I tell you, when we through, I'll get you something to settle you down so you can get some damn sleep.

CALVIN: I can't sleep yet like it is. I'm just damn near crazy.

CHARLIE: Well, Calvin, when they brought you out-when they brought me out of that thing, goddamn it I like to never in hell got you straightened out.

His voice rising, Calvin said, "My damn arms, my arms, I remember they just froze up and I couldn't move. Just like I stepped on a damn rattlesnake." [sic]

"They didn't do me that way", sighed Charlie.

Now both men were talking as if to themselves.

CALVIN: I passed out. I expect I never passed out in my whole life.

CHARLIE: I've never seen nothin' like that before in my life. You can't make people believe-

CALVIN: I don't want to keep sittin' here. I want to see a doctor-

CHARLIE: They better wake up and start believin'... they better start believin'.

CALVIN: You see how that damn door come right up?

CHARLIE: I don't know how it opened, son. I don't know.

CALVIN: It just laid up and just like that those son' bitches-just like that they come out.

CHARLIE: I know. You can't believe it. You can't make people believe it-

CALVIN: I paralyzed right then. I couldn't move-

CHARLIE: They won't believe it. They gonna believe it one of these days. Might be too late. I knew all along they was people from other worlds up there. I knew all along. I never thought it would happen to me.

CALVIN: You know yourself I don't drink

CHARLIE: I know that, son. When I get to the house I'm gonna get me another drink, make me sleep. Look, what we sittin' around for. I gotta go tell Blanche... what we waitin' for?

CALVIN (panicky): I gotta go to the house. I'm gettin' sick. I gotta get out of here.

Then Charlie got up and left the room, and Calvin was alone.

CALVIN: It's hard to believe . . . Oh God, it's awful... I know there's a god up there...

Seeing that the police were skeptical of their story, Hickson and Parker insisted that they take lie detector tests to prove their honesty.
This is actually a very compelling case.



Is it just me, or does that remind you a bit of this guy?



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I forgot about one of my favorite pieces of "evidence" ... either people can see into the future and physics are "real" (wink wink) or ancient humans saw sophisticated flying craft thousands of years ago that look like helicopters, gliders (yes, like in Star Wars), zeppelins, and even submarines.

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located several hundred miles south of Cairo and the Giza Plateau, at Abydos.




To me, this is compelling evidence indeed. You pretty much can't say those look like anything but what they are. It's obvious!
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The following is an ancient Japanese rock painting, circa 5000 BC. This painting was a depiction of an aircraft that existed thousands of years before our era.


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This plate called 'The Lolladoff plate' is a 12,000 year old stone dish found in Nepal. It clearly shows a disk shaped UFO (top of pic, hard to see from the angle of the plate however). There is also a figure on the disc looking remarkably similar to a Grey. Notice the spiral galaxy shape as well, with the alien inside it and the ufo at the beginning of it.
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I just found this really interesting story about a link between children "stolen by fairies" and AUTISM.

http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s1309455.htm

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Fairytales and folklore dating back hundreds of years contain evidence of autism, say Australian researchers.

Their findings, published in the current issue of the journal Archives of Disease in Childhood, suggest autism existed long before it was formally recognised in 1943.

Dr Julie Leask, from the National Centre for Immunisation Research and Surveillance of Vaccine Preventable Diseases in Sydney, and colleagues looked at tales from the UK, Germany and Scandinavia.

Leask, whose previous research has examined parents' concerns about immunisation, says the stories also support the argument that autism is not a result of today's environment or recent technologies such as the measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) vaccine.

Leask was prompted to do the study after hearing a mother tell a current affair's program on autism it was as if "the girl I gave birth to has been stolen".

Leask says several stories describe children believed to have been stolen by fairies who then left behind a strange, sickly, "changeling" child.

"The description of changelings is very similar to those given to autistic children," she says.

"Changelings were described as unresponsive, resistant to affection, did not express emotion, cried a lot or did not speak."

Today autism is a considered a neurological disorder and includes an inability to form normal social relationships, stereotyped and repetitive behaviours, as well as disordered verbal and non-verbal communication.

Leask says the stories contain instructions on preventing a child being stolen, how to check if a child really was a changeling and how to control their behaviour.

"It is believed stories are non-scientific communities' way of explaining and cope with disabled children," she says, "a sort of guide to parenting."

She says the cause of autism was still not known and over the years society had tried to explain the disorder in different ways.

"Now [we] have some evidence that autism is not simply a result of modern society's environment or technologies," Leask says. "However whether they contribute to a predisposition in individuals we still don't know."
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http://www.crystalinks.com/screenmemories.html

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In truth, all of reality consists of screened images viewed by one or more people and experienced as real. Reality is projected illusion created to experience emotions through the lens (eye) of time.

Screen Memories or Stealth Encounters are false memories recreated by one's mind to help understand something or overcome fear. What one remembers is not real. This is not be confused with Psychosis.

In alien abduction encounters Screen Memories refer to the images of aliens replaced by something familiar or perhaps friendly. Things remember generally include:

* Animals: Owls (large dark eye grays), the cat family, wolves, rabbits (missing time), dogs and deer.
* Clowns, Circus and Carnie Symbology are also part of the experience which case those involved to be fearful of these people are experiences at a future date. Clowns go to the Trickster.
* People who rescue: irefighters, policemen, utility people, or someone in the military. Reports of police and military in accounts also emerge, as if some authority from within the person or outside the person is acting as a psychological check or control on the experiencer. Some may interpret the presence of military personnel as indicating an actual military aspect or intervention or deliberate involvement and collaboration in the stealth encounter. Firefighters indicate a possible emergency response to douse the psychological shock of a stealth encounter on the mind and/or body of an experiencer.

Many Sci Fi films and books deal with screened images and memories.

In the film Contact, Ellie Arrowaway, meets an alien presence who takes the form of her deceased father.

In Islamic theology, an order of stealth beings operating with great secrecy, the Al-Jinn, or Genie, is well known, existing in a hidden realm or mirror universe.

Their behavior is much like the denizens of Faeryland and even more like the behavior of the 'intruders' or 'visitors' in UFOlogy.

Faeryland Experiences

Abductions, altered and missing time, stolen babies, hybrid-like changelings, experience enchantment and engaging in sexual acts can be found in books like The Daemonic Reality, which documents such aspects, as do books by William Butler Yeats, among others.

Many events reported during purported abductions often have parallels in anthropology, folklore and religion. Especially frequently correlate with certain imagery persistent in shamanic experiences (e.g., surgery-like procedures, foreign objects implanted in the body) and faerie contact stories, for instance. John Edward Mack, for one, suggested that modern abduction accounts should be considered as part of this larger history of visionary encounters.

UFO researcher Jacques Vallee, documented in detail, the similarities between close encounters and centuries of accounts of elves, sprites, slyphs, gnomes, fairies, leprechauns, changlings and Faeryland in his classic 1970 book, Passport To Magonia.
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Were those the little green guys that were supposedly immune to shotgun slugs? I remember reading about a case that entailed a farm house and similar looking creatures peeking into the home. Apparently one was shot, but all it did was send it flying backwards. After that, it levitated and flew off, then came back with more.
Yes, there was several witnesses to weird lights and hearing the gunshots etc etc. The de-bunkers said it was a monkey or three that had escaped the Zoo etc etc.
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My physical contact mostly happened between 1973 and 1975...There were ships everywhere in the early 70s..

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