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Old 20-11-2013, 02:29 PM   #1
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ANY IDEAS??
Who Is This Woman?




Sitting there with her coat on. All wrapped up. John Sutcliffe in front with his best bib and tucker.

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Old 20-11-2013, 02:40 PM   #2
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ANY IDEAS??
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Sitting there with her coat on. All wrapped up. John Sutcliffe in front with his best bib and tucker.
His mother, Kathleen Sutcliffe.
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Old 20-11-2013, 02:57 PM   #3
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She died in November 1978.
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Old 20-11-2013, 02:59 PM   #4
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ANY IDEAS??
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Sitting there with her coat on. All wrapped up. John Sutcliffe in front with his best bib and tucker.
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His mother, Kathleen Sutcliffe.
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She died in November 1978.
Is it just me or has the photo disappeared from the post?
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Old 20-11-2013, 03:03 PM   #5
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That picture was all kosher and even Halal too....from The Daily Mail.... so there's nowt wrong with it.
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Old 20-11-2013, 03:19 PM   #6
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NOT HIS MUM - TRY AGAIN

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Old 20-11-2013, 03:26 PM   #7
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She had a dicky tick tock with poor circulation.

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Old 20-11-2013, 03:36 PM   #8
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She died in November 1978.
It's clearly the same woman - I suggest the date of the Xmas pic is incorrect.
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Old 20-11-2013, 03:39 PM   #9
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It's clearly the same woman - I suggest the date of the Xmas pic is incorrect.
Doesn't look anything like her to me.

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Old 20-11-2013, 03:47 PM   #10
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It's clearly the same woman - I suggest the date of the Xmas pic is incorrect.
WE HAVE A WINNER.
AND IN RECORD TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The date The Daily Mail used for the picture must to be wrong:

The last time Peter's parents were invited to Sonia's new home was Christmas week 1977:

"The only trouble was that it was under-heated. With the exception of Sonia and her mother, who were wearing layers of cardigans and jumpers and knitted 'leggings', everybody was freezing.

Kathleen (Peter's mother) was particularly susceptible to the cold because of the poor state of her health, and John was forced to bend down and switch on the electric fire in the living-room himself when neither Peter nor Sonia volunteered. Within quarter of an hour, though, Kathleen, who had drawn her chair close to the only source of heat, was shivering again, the fire was off and they could only assume the reason it refused to relight was because the power had been turned off at the mains.

Kathleen spent what was left of the evening sitting huddled in her winter coat, and this time even Peter's customary 'daftness' couldn't rescue the situation.

When she got home that night, his mother swore she would never set foot in Garden Lane again. She never did."
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Old 20-11-2013, 04:26 PM   #11
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There was another picture The Daily Mail posted.

This one according to The Mail was also from 'late 1980 and taken in John Sutcliffe's house'.

The clothes, the suit shirt and waistcoat Peter is wearing are the same, and as we couldn't see Sonia's leggings in the first picture they could not be verified. It looks like this picture was taken on the same day as the first and was taken just as the Mail said at John Sutcliffe's house.

The only form of heat available at Peter's house was a bar electric fire. Just behind Sonia's head ringed in purple is the room thermostat indicating that at this house central heating was installed.

Well it looks like The Mail got it only half right if at all. Question is why should The Mail choose to publish pictures with both the wrong dates and location?

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Old 20-11-2013, 05:05 PM   #12
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There was another picture The Daily Mail posted.

This one according to The Mail was also from 'late 1980 and taken in John Sutcliffe's house'.

The clothes, the suit shirt and waistcoat Peter is wearing are the same, and as we couldn't see Sonia's leggings in the first picture they could not be verified. It looks like this picture was taken on the same day as the first and was taken just as the Mail said at John Sutcliffe's house.

The only form of heat available at Peter's house was a bar electric fire. Just behind Sonia's head ringed in purple is the room thermostat indicating that at this house central heating was installed.

Well it looks like The Mail got it only half right if at all. Question is why should The Mail choose to publish pictures with both the wrong dates and location?
We know why Sutcliffe as West were part of the recruiting team... Savile was the pied piper...

Great work as alway x
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Old 22-11-2013, 04:51 PM   #14
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Some interesting newspaper articles and posts on this website with regards Yorkshire Ripper

http://www.yorkshireripper.co.uk/hyper/001.htm

But did the murders carry on after Sutcliffe's capture?

http://www.yorkshireripper.co.uk/hyper/win-006.htm
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...e-jack-2053906

I never knew the Ripper hoaxer had been released.
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But did the murders carry on after Sutcliffe's capture?

http://www.yorkshireripper.co.uk/hyper/win-006.htm
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showp...postcount=4513
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Old 24-11-2013, 10:55 PM   #17
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I can confirm that Peter Sutcliffe was a paedophile and liked young girls.
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I am a person who, as a child, saw Peter Sutcliffe in my house, chatting with my then step father, who by the way, was also a pervert. Sutcliffe was mending a motor on our chest freezer!!! I was also a close friend of Carol Wilkinson and her family! So this (expletive deleted) that you refer to is quite close to my heart. Sutcliffe, like i have already stated, was interested in young girls, not prostitutes. I knew a lot of people that were called in as suspects for the RIPPER. A lot of those people gave statements that Sutcliffe was perving on the Ravenscliffe estate. ON YOUNG GIRLS AND...NOT PROSTITUTES. I dont love conspiracy theories in the slightest. I am though, a seeker of justice and truth, for the sake of the future of my children. I would hate to think one of my sons was stitched up for something the didnt do, or that one of my daughters were murdered and that their death was so un-important that it doesnt even warrent the time of the police to investigate who actually killed her!!!
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Old 26-11-2013, 01:28 PM   #18
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Old 03-12-2013, 06:12 PM   #19
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From Mrs. A's witness statement.

Savile had been to Belgium before 1975.

And before 1970 - the date of the referred to attack .





Edit: The family holiday picture should read - Belgium and not Holland.

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Old 03-12-2013, 06:44 PM   #20
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28th October 2012
By Jonathan Corke, Tony Bushby and Deborah Sherwood


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But a former detective who worked on the case revealed they were ­suddenly told to halt the probe.

The furious ex-policeman said: “It wasn’t that we ran out of leads but it reached a point where a warning to stop came.

...........

The dropped probe was carried out by the Metropolitan Police – the same force now investigating six decades of abuse by telly star Jimmy Savile. It ­discovered high-profile men were ­paying the boys to attend sex parties at “millionaire properties” in London and the Home Counties.

A “network” of boys, including ­runaways, were used – many of whom were said to have been recruited around the then notorious rent-boy haunt of Leicester Square.

Some of the VIPs were said to have flown in via RAF Northolt on the outskirts of London.

One boy told police wealthy men from Belgium attended the parties, which were described as “high class” and featured top-notch food and booze.
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