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Old 13-08-2011, 05:09 PM   #41
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The Lost Boys actor said he was 'literally surrounded' by paedophiles at the age of 14, but didn't realise 'until I was much older what they were and what they wanted.'
Kudos to Feldman for speaking out but the quote above shows that he is still in denial or unready to fully address what exactly happened

He has shame and it is no wonder for that is how abused children are forced to keep their silence.

To name names at this point is too much to ask from him. He has done enough. If one day when he is old enough to not fear death and he comes forward with the details, it would be miraculous because he most likely won't get that far.

Bless him for opening the door and perhaps allowing others speak up as much as they are comfortable with.

He did not realize until he was "much older what they were and what they wanted" Denial is what keeps him sane and allows him to continue his life. His friend, Haim, might have benefitted from such denial for clearly the truth was too painful.

I feel for him and all the other people who started in the industry while young. I feel for the ones who grow up and emulate those who harmed them. I applaud Corey for not being like that.

But those who carry on the tradition are not to be hated, or even pitied. We should have compassion for them.

We should also have compassion for those who are older than a child and still sign the dotted line and enter "the system". Who amongst us would be able to let our morals and common sense override the power of our dreams and goals when embarking on the life of an adult?

Especially when we are too driven and starry-eyed to understand what the deeper implications are.

The web is very strong and few escape. The web is daily strengthened by those in power but their days are numbered and they know it. This knowledge will cause them to falter and make mistakes that will expose themselves as much as the public will be willing to see.

Those who are not prepared to have their illusions shattered are not seeking the truth but merely wishing to validate what they already believe or want to be the truth. - plucky


I would imagine that some of these pedophiles that are running amuck hold the power of illusion over the masses and are loved for their artistry and the smiles that they bring to the masses.

If Spielberg (or others like him who are not even suspected at this junction)
are implicated or even hinted at being involved most will not believe it because they have brought joy to the masses. Anyone involved who has caused a warm and fuzzy moment for the public will escape. It is this mindset that allows the deception to continue.

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Old 14-08-2011, 11:13 PM   #42
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I feel sorry for Corey, he is in a difficult position not being able to name names. This is unfortunate but some of these guys are so powerful he probably wouldn't live very long if he spoke names. At least he is making sure his kid/s don't get mixed up in it.
Hmm sometimes I think that folks who speak out automatically protect themselves if they make their statements public. If something suspicious happens to them after making such statements, then it only confirms that they were telling the truth. Carrying around the secret is dangerous enough if it involves a powerful figure. Cathy O'Brien comes to mind, alot of people believe her story and her determination and drive to not live in fear I believe is what helps.
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Old 14-08-2011, 11:20 PM   #43
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I have seen speculation implicating Joel Schumacher in Corey Haim and Corey Feldman's allegations, and therefore think it is worth mentioning Brad Renfro. He was a young Hollywood actor who died of a 'heroin overdose' in 2008, aged 25, after years of drug problems.

Renfro made his Hollywood Debut in 1994 at age 12 in 'The Client'. Directed by? Joel Schumacher.
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Old 15-08-2011, 07:55 AM   #44
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Hmm sometimes I think that folks who speak out automatically protect themselves if they make their statements public. If something suspicious happens to them after making such statements, then it only confirms that they were telling the truth. Carrying around the secret is dangerous enough if it involves a powerful figure. Cathy O'Brien comes to mind, alot of people believe her story and her determination and drive to not live in fear I believe is what helps.
Good point. After Haim died, he might've gotten paranoid thinking he's next to go, and wanted to 'protect himself' by coming out with this just in case.
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Old 16-08-2011, 04:30 AM   #45
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I have no trouble believing this. Rather than think "oh no, here we go, another child actor...", you ought to consider how many f-ed up child actors there are, and why there are no happily ever afters for these kids. Haim and Feldman talked about this on their TV show, Michael Jackson was sexually abused. Drew Barrymore was sexually abused. On and on. Not to mention the drug addictions and suicides that seem to plague these kids. Is it simply them who want to stay in the public eye, or is someone else attempting to keep them there? They are commodities after all, and one rule of the entertainment business is that if it sold before, it will sell again. Hence the term "retro".

Oh, and for those who actually believe that Disney is all about wholesome family fun, look up Disney subliminals on any search engine. Have fun with that.

I think the mogul Feldman is referring to is either David Geffen, or Steven Spielberg. He was risking his life saying "mogul", let alone naming someone big. Those freaks at the top of that particular pyramid do not play around. Think about all the death, drugs and scandal there.... If you're thinking "That's the nature of that business!" you should probably also wonder why.

Once again Google "Disney subliminals" "Paedophilia in Hollywood" "Suicides of child stars" "Deaths of Child stars" and so on. Just for fun.
What makes you think Michael Jackson was sexually abused? I don't recall him ever saying that he was.
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Old 16-08-2011, 04:43 AM   #46
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There are lots of schumachers in Hollywood. In fact, schumacher is a slang term in Hollywood for a pedophile. Hah!

When Corey was a young boy he hung out with Michael Jackson. All in innocence

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXC93mQkyZM

MJ is one of the moguls that Corey talks about, but he will never, ever admit that.

But there are many others, too. Older, younger, you name it.
I like MJ. Corey Feldman said MJ didn't molest him, and on the day MJ died Corey Haim was interviewed by Greta Von Sustern (however you spell her name) outside of the Jackson Family home in California and he said MJ was not the person who molested him. Find someone else to blame, cause it was never MJ.

Michael Jackson was not a mogul. He believe he was screwed over by some big wigs in Hollywood. He said the SKG/Dreamworks logo was his/Neverland's logo and was ripped off.

Maybe the real molesting moguls used MJ as a scapegoat to take the attention away from themselves.

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Old 16-08-2011, 04:55 AM   #47
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It is my belief that Corey suffers from a form of Stockholm Syndrome and still identifies and idolizes this one particular abuser.

MJ himself was a victim who became a victimizer. Nothng uncommon about that. Dont be naive. MJ was in "the system" lock, stock and barrel. He may have had many personas or personalities, a very complex man. But he had his demons too. How could he not with his upbringing?

Listen to the video the OP posted again. Feldman talks about pedophiles in the plural. He says that it is the big secret. He was surrounded by them.

He also talks about older men that surround themselves with younger kids.

More than one pedophile and I doubt that it started when he was 14 as he implies in the video when he says that he did not even realize it until he was that age. He, as he says, was famous before he even knew his name.

He has also said that his memory of events with MJ is not clear and that when one of MJ's accuser's came forward that it triggered doubts in himself as to what happened with MJ and why MJ dumped him as a friend when he got bored with Corey. Bored probably means Corey got too old.

He does say that MJ "damaged" him, and "damaged" is the exact same word he uses in this video when he talks about the pedophiles.

Coincidence?
Michael Jackson was not a child molester. Unless Feldman defined what he meant by damaged, it doesn't automatically mean molestation. Do you have a link to his comments about MJ allegedly damaging him?

You make insinuations about MJ being "bored" and Corey getting to old for him. You right things as fact, but neither you nor I were there. Who used the word bored? MJ or Corey? Did Corey assume this? Maybe MJ found out about Corey's drugs use, talked to him about it, and when he discovered that he wasn't going to stop, ended their friendship. The end of their friendship couldn't have possibly had anything to do with Feldman. It had to be Michael, right?
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Michael Jackson was not a child molester. Unless Feldman defined what he meant by damaged, it doesn't automatically mean molestation. Do you have a link to his comments about MJ allegedly damaging him?

You make insinuations about MJ being "bored" and Corey getting to old for him. You right things as fact, but neither you nor I were there. Who used the word bored? MJ or Corey? Did Corey assume this? Maybe MJ found out about Corey's drugs use, talked to him about it, and when he discovered that he wasn't going to stop, ended their friendship. The end of their friendship couldn't have possibly had anything to do with Feldman. It had to be Michael, right?
Corey used the word "bored".

You are right about neither of us being there. However, I see a great deal of cognitive dissonance on the part of MJ's fans.

Something else to factor in is that children sometimes love, look up to and want to be like their abuser, before they are even molested. This creates confusion and splintering and not wanting to expose the person.

I have been all to aware of this phenomenom in my personal life having been abused by someone who makes people laugh. Having even hinted that the person is more than their public image gets me nowhere. It only gets me branded as a liar.

My abuser, I am sure, is no different than many. He has carefully crafted a public persona of being generous with his money, and he puts smiles on peoples faces.

Think of it this way... murderers can be handsome and charming, and molesters can pretend to help children.

Have you ever met MJ? People can marry someone and not really know them. And here there are fans claiming that MJ would never do that. And videos of MJ dangling a baby out a window brings no reaction.

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During February 2005 Feldman was subpoenaed to testify against Michael Jackson in his child molestation trial. The singer was accused of molesting a 15-year-old boy who spent time at his Neverland Ranch and is believed to be a cancer survivor who appeared in Martin Bashir's 2003 British documentary Living With Michael Jackson. Feldman said, "I started looking at each piece of information, and with that came this sickening realization that there have been many occurrences in my life and in my relationship to Michael that have created a question of doubt". [15]

Feldman accused Michael Jackson of damaging his childhood by befriending and then abandoning him. The two became close after Feldman found fame as a young star in Gremlins, The Goonies and Stand by Me. Feldman admitted Jackson helped many children by becoming a friend and mentor – but claimed he did more harm than good, by dropping kids when he grew bored. The actor said, "He did real damage in my overall life. I was a 12-year-old boy who was hurt by his family and ignored by people at school. Michael would sit and talk to me for hours and he would listen. Then he would get bored. The biggest thing that Michael's done to children is befriending the ones that are in need and then abandoning them".
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In the interview with "20/20" correspondent Martin Bashir — whose documentary "Living With Michael Jackson" helped spark the investigation against the pop star (see "Jacko's Bizarre Behavior Examined In Two New Documentaries") — Bashir asks, "Were you ever shown any images that were inappropriate?" Feldman responds, "If you consider it inappropriate for a man to look at a book of naked pictures with a child that's 13 or 14 years old, then your answer would be yes."

One example, Feldman said, was that Jackson had a book on his coffee table about "venereal diseases and the genitalia," which the singer would show him pictures in and "discuss what those meant."

"I was kind of grossed out by it," Feldman said. "I didn't think of it as a big deal. And for all these years, I probably never thought twice about it. But in light of recent evidence, I have to say that if my son was 14 years old, 13 years old, and went to a man's apartment, and I knew that they were sitting down together talking about this, I would probably beat his ass."

This pornography claim is inconsistent with previous statements Feldman's made to the press, such as when he told CNN's Larry King in November 2003 that he'd never seen Jackson "act in any inappropriate way to a child. Never with me"
http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/149...10/index.jhtml
By the way, the quote from Feldman regarding MJ "damaging" him and getting "bored" with him is so easy to find. A search will yields thousands of results. So...... I am guessing that you really don't want to know the truth.... or are not all that interested in it. If you were interested you would have looked it up. If you were curious you would have looked it up.

Cognitive dissonance.
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Mogul definition: 1. An important or powerful person, esp. in the motion picture or media industry.

MJ outbid many in 1984, including Paul McCartney, to own the rights to a 4,000 song catalogue, including all (but 4) Beatles songs. That in and of itself would make him a mogul. Sony Corp paid MJ $95 million to own HALF of those rights.

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One further note: What would happen to Corey Feldman if he came out and accused MJ of pedophilia? How would MJ's rabid fans react?

I want to say that I do not know if MJ is who he is talking about, but merely say that if it is MJ, then I can understand that MJ's fans would be one of many reasons for not speaking up.

And just a reminder to anyone...... it is not a good idea to idolize anyone. Especially when you only know their public persona.
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The notion that MJ was victimized and then himself became a victimizer is certainly plausible-especially when one takes into consideration the predatory nature of those behind the scenes in Hollywood, and how they could of turned him, so to speak.

Brice Taylor recalls here ("Thanks for the memories", Chapter 21) the horrific sexual abuse the young Jacksons were subjected to at the hands of rich, sadistic, pedophiles-sickeningly with father Joe's approval:

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Michael Jackson was just a little boy of four or five when I accompanied Bob Hope to a place where they were filming up-and- coming talent for television. Bob told me he supported and sponsored the Jacksons, getting them a professional foot in the door. Their father brought the boys in and I remembered seeing them taken into a side room where bright lights were on.

They all had to drop their pants and before their performance a big man raped each one of them in a lineup. Then they were taken to a different room and dressed in little suits and sent onto the stage to perform. Due to the mind control I was under, I'm not sure exactly where we were, but feel that it was the early days of the Ed Sullivan Show. I watched as Bob, dressed in a grey pinstripe suit and bow tie, with white shoes, shook hands with Ed; and then the Jackson boys went on. They were made into a sensation and famous, on purpose, so that they could be used in the future to influence large audiences.

http://www.conspiracyresearch.org/fo...pe=post&id=179

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin...gi?read=149674

Michael's brother Jermaine was scheduled to release a tell-all book by the name of "Legacy", but due to it's apparent salacious and controversial contents-namely the many allegations leveled at Joe Jackson-the book never saw the light of day, or atleast Jermaine has yet to have found a publisher with enough courage willing to release this quite disturbing material. From a New York post article dated March of 2006, Jermaine speaks candidly about his book and his father's sordid and mysterious affairs with affluent 'business men' who would occasionally consort with young Michael and Joe in bizarre hotel room meetings, where Jermaine suspects sexual abuse may of taken place:

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Jermaine also says that he suspects that his younger brother may have been a victim of sexual abuse by their dad, Joseph.

"There were times when Joseph and some of these men he'd describe as "very important business people," would meet late at night in our hotel suite with Michael, and Michael alone," Jermaine writes.

"I always felt something was wrong with that and Michael would always be sick for days after these "meetings."

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/item_Qi...#ixzz1RpA71Abx

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Old 16-08-2011, 10:06 PM   #51
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The notion that MJ was victimized and then himself became a victimizer is certainly plausible-especially when one takes into consideration the predatory nature of those behind the scenes in Hollywood, and how they could of turned him, so to speak.
To expand on the victim turning predator:

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FOUR MAJOR CHARACTERISTICS OF A PEDOPHILE

In his report, Kenneth Lanning describes four major characteristics of pedophiles. They consist of 1) a long term and persistent pattern of behavior, 2) having children as preferred sexual objects, 3) a well-developed techniques in obtaining victims, and 4) sexual fantasies focusing on children. Lanning, Kenneth, "Child Molesters: A Behavioral Analysis," 3rd Edition (1992). Lanning points out that, although each indicator listed below, and contained under each of the four major characteristics, means very little alone, "their significance and weight comes as they are accumulated and come to form a pattern of behavior."

A. Long-term and Persistent Pattern of Behavior

1. Sexual Abuse in Background

Although most victims of child sexual abuse do not become offenders, research indicates that many offenders are former victims. Therefore, it is important to investigate a person’s background, including interviewing family members, friends and acquaintances to determine if the individual has ever been the victim of sexual abuse and to find out what the nature of the abuse was (i.e. the age it occurred, relationship with the offender, acts performed, etc.) Unfortunately, such in depth background investigation is generally impossible when screening potential candidates for employment situations.
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2. Limited Social Contact as Teenagers

A deviant’s sexual preference for children usually begins in early adolescence. For that reason, during his teenage years, a pedophile may have exhibited little sexual interest in people his own age.
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Refers to Children as "Clean," "Pure" or "Innocent"

Since pedophiles often have an idealistic view of children, it is common for a pedophile to refer to children by the adjectives provided above....

Shows Sexually Explicit Material to Children

It is common for pedophiles to show children sexually explicit material in order to lower their inhibitions. ....

http://www.butlerpappas.com/showarticle.aspx?Show=1416
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What causes pedophilia? No one decides, "I’m going to grow up and be a child pedophile." We know that pedophilia runs in families. Boys who are molested often molest boys when they grow up. Do they molest because they were molested or because they have a genetic sexual orientation toward children? I feel that there is a strong genetic predisposition in pedophilia. I believe that pedophilia runs in families and seems to be a variant of OCD, which has strong genetic predispositions. In other words, pedophilia seems to be an illness that is caused by abnormal brain chemistry with strong genetic connections.
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Excellent posts plucky. Thanks for all of the great info and links.
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I have seen speculation implicating Joel Schumacher in Corey Haim and Corey Feldman's allegations, and therefore think it is worth mentioning Brad Renfro. He was a young Hollywood actor who died of a 'heroin overdose' in 2008, aged 25, after years of drug problems.

Renfro made his Hollywood Debut in 1994 at age 12 in 'The Client'. Directed by? Joel Schumacher.
I would bet that is who Feldman is referring to also. I hope he or whoever is exposed.
Here is a link on Joel Schumacher:


He apparently called himself as "A Sexual Outlaw". How appropriate. all imo.
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No, seriously, I don't.

Why isn't the guy naming names and exposing these pedophiles, instead of doing an interview for tv cameras and just insinuating it?
He didn't appear to making insinuations to me, he was just confirming what very many people have suspected for decades. If he were to name names he would have to also provide the names of victims who are still living. Many of the victims may not want to be named. On top of that, were he to name names he could find himself receiving many lawsuits on behalf of those named and attention would only be focusing upon those named rather than everyone in Hollywood who behaves inappropriately towards children.
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He didn't appear to making insinuations to me, he was just confirming what very many people have suspected for decades. If he were to name names he would have to also provide the names of victims who are still living. Many of the victims may not want to be named. On top of that, were he to name names he could find himself receiving many lawsuits on behalf of those named and attention would only be focusing upon those named rather than everyone in Hollywood who behaves inappropriately towards children.
But an investigation has to start somewhere, it's unlikely to be one off incidents as these things take the form of networks or rings. Feldman should grow a backbone if he sincerely thinks children are being harmed.
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Movie directors in particular are capable of holding both children and some adults in their palm.

The good guys use this to try and make a good movie, and a few decide to play out some infantile and demented game.

The amount of both physical and mental (psychic) crime that goes on in all regions of the global media is something that is rarely discussed.
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That's some heavy stuff.
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But an investigation has to start somewhere, it's unlikely to be one off incidents as these things take the form of networks or rings. Feldman should grow a backbone if he sincerely thinks children are being harmed.
He is doing much more than 99.9% of those in Hollywood. Would you prefer the conspiracy of silence to continue?
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Corey said he was surrounded by peds when he was 14.

That leaves 2 movies.

Friday the 13th: A New Beginning (1985)
The Goonies (1985) Clark 'Mouth' Devereaux

Unless he deliberately lied as a cover. I don't think he'd forget something like that. I'm looking up some names... Quite interesting.
Richard Donner directed The Goonies, which was produced by Spielberg. Donner also produced The Lost Boys in 1987.

edit: just noticed the earlier reference to this guy in the thread.
Donner directed all 4 Lethal Weapon films which starred Danny Glover.

If you've seen Lenon Honors analysis of a particular Disney film which starred Glover it creates an intriguing coincidence for sure.

Danny Glover's first big role was in the Spielberg directed The Colour Purple, which also starred Oprah Winfrey who of course has been implicated in these issue with the scandals at the orphanages she helped set up a few years back.

The Colour Purple also starred Whoopi Goldberg, who defended Roman Polanski's rape of a 13 year old girl by claiming 'it wasn't rape, rape.'

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I have seen speculation implicating Joel Schumacher in Corey Haim and Corey Feldman's allegations, and therefore think it is worth mentioning Brad Renfro. He was a young Hollywood actor who died of a 'heroin overdose' in 2008, aged 25, after years of drug problems.

Renfro made his Hollywood Debut in 1994 at age 12 in 'The Client'. Directed by? Joel Schumacher.
Yes.

I posted this in another thread on Haim but think it's worth posting here for anyone who is interested:

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Talking of Ocean's Eleven...........

(This might all be a little '7 degrees of seperation', but thought you might find it interesting.)


One of its stars, Carl Reiner.

Carl was educated at Georgetown, at the Edmund A. Walsh school of Foreign Service.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_...oreign_Service
Some notable alumni:
Main article: List of Georgetown University alumni
Abdullah II of Jordan (1987), King of Jordan
José Durão Barroso (1987), President of the European Commission former Prime Minster of Portugal
George Casey, (1970), U.S. Army Chief of Staff
Paul Clement (1988), U.S. Solicitor General and Acting U.S.Attorney General
Bill Clinton (1968), 42nd President of the United States
Richard Durbin (1966), US Senator from Illinois, Majority Whip of the United States Senate
Felipe, Prince of Asturias (1991), Crown Prince (future King) of Spain
Luis Fortuno (1982) Governor of Puerto Rico
Dalia Grybauskaite (1991), President of Lithuania 2009 to present.
Alexander Haig (1961), US Secretary of State under Ronald Reagan, Supreme Allied Commander Europe of NATO (1974-79)
James L. Jones (1966), President Obama's National Security Advisor
Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo (1968), President of the Philippines from 2001 to 2010
Pat Quinn (1969), Governor of Illinois
Daniel Henninger columnist
Matthew A. Reynolds (1986), former Assistant Secretary of State for Legislative Affairs (2008-2009)
George Tenet (1976), Director of the CIA from 1997 to 2004
Željko Komšić , President of Bosnia and Herzegovina from 2006 to present
Mushahid Hussain, Opposition Leader in Pakistan, candidate for President of Pakistan in 2008.

Carl is the father of Rob Reiner.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Reiner
Reiner directed such films as This Is Spinal Tap -


TIST starred -
Harry Shearer -


Shearer starred in Roland Emmerich's Godzilla.
Shearer is a regular attendee of Bohemian Grove, where of course much abuse is said to take place. After Alex Jones had broke in (ahem) Shearer appeared to speak about the Grove in a number of damage limitation exercises. He in fact made a hastily put together film in a propagandistic response to the break in, called The Teddy Bears Picnic.


His co-star in Teddy Bears Picnic, and our second star of This Is Spinal Tap is fellow Bohemian Grover Michael McKean (seen below on the right).


Michael is a descendant of Thomas McKean, one of the signers of the Deceration of Independence.

Our next Spinal Tap star is Christopher Guest. AKA The Rt Hon. Christopher Haden-Guest, 5th Baron Haden-Guest. However he apparently prefers it styled short to Lord Haden-Guest.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Guest

Guest's parents were Peter Haden-Guest, 4th Baron Haden-Guest and Jean Pauline Hindes, a former vice-president of casting for CBS. (ahem!)
His great grandfather was Albert Goldsmid, of the famous Goldsmid family - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldsmid_family - who was the highest ranked Jewish officer in the British army in the 19th century. He also founded the Jewish Lads' and Girls' Brigade and the Maccabaean's.

Christopher Guest got was married to Jamie Lee-Curtis in 1984. The ceremony was held in Rob Reiners' house.

Our next star of This Is Spinal Tap is Tony Hendra -


Hendra was educated at St Albans' School, where he was a classmate of Stephen Hawking. He was a member of The Cambridge Footlights in 1962, alongside, amongst others, John Cleese.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Hendra

Note that he gave Christopher Guest (and John Belushi) his first starring role in 1975. (Guest's wife Jamie Lee Curtis later starred in A Fish Called Wanda with Hendra's old Cambridge friend John Cleese.)

Hendra's daughter, Jessica, accused Tony of sexually abusing her. She wrote a book about it a few years ago -


New York Times Article about the book -
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...pagewanted=all

But back to Rob Reiner. Just a quick mention of another Reiner directed, 'Misery' which starred James Caan:


Caan's son Scott was a co-star of Casey's in Ocean's Eleven.



Another Reiner helmed film was 1987's 'Stand By Me', which starred River Pheonix, Corey Feldman and Kiefer Sutherland.

(Another 1987 hit movie which starred Kiefer Sutherland and Corey Feldman was of course The Lost Boys, which also starred the late Corey Haim.

The Lost Boys was directed by Joel Schumacher, who also made the movie 8mm, which was based on a mystery surrounding a snuff film. It starred Nicholas Cage and Joaquin Pheonix.)

One final interesting note, is that Rob Reiner also directed 1989's When Harry Met Sally. Gerald Ford's son Steven played the part of Sally's (Meg Ryan) boyfirend in the film:



http://www.flickr.com/photos/pikturz/3557377358/

Another star of When Harry Met Sally is Carrie Fisher. It seems Carrie had a slightly unconventional upbringing. her mother is Singing In The Rain Star Debbie Reynolds. Reynolds was/is a good friend of Rosemary Clooney, the aunt of Ocean's Eleven star George Clooney. In fact, one of Rosemary's sons, the actor Miguel Ferrer, was such good friends with the Reynolds/Fisher family that he helped Carrie with rehearse her lines before her big audition for the Star Wars films.

To add to thism, interestingly, one of River Pheonix's early co-stars was Matthew Perry. Perry's mother was the press secretary to Pierre Trudeau when he was Canadian PM. Margot Kidder once had an affair with Trudeau and has been mentioned elsewhere in this thread, she had previously worked with Richard Donner on the Superman films. She later had a famous 'breakdown' during which she claimed she was being followed by agents and had a microchip hidden in her teeth.

Matthew Perry went on to star in Friends with Courtney Cox, who was married to David Arquette.

The Arquette siblings grew up in a 'commune' where they also suffered violent abuse.

All sounds pretty widespread and inter-connected to me.
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