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Old 08-04-2011, 01:12 PM   #1
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A 300-strong demonstration on March 26th 2011 in Brandenburg, near Berlin, calling for the release of attorney Horst Mahler, who is serving a 12-year jail sentence for the 'crime' of expressing source-critical opinions of Holocaust scepticism. The international demonstrators also call for the repeal of Germany's notorious 'Article 130' - a law which prevents the accused (and even their lawyers) from presenting forensic evidence (or any other scholarly evidence) in their defence. Thus German lawyers are jailed (and in ten other European countries may be prosecuted and heavily fined) if they seek to defend their clients too well! (video description)

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I don't know exactly what to make of this yet, but shouldn't people all over the world be allowed to speak what they think?
Why is there a singular exception in Germany and other European countries?
How can politicians of Germany go around and reclaim free speech for Chinese dissidents without blushing?

What do you think?
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Old 08-04-2011, 01:58 PM   #2
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A 300-strong demonstration on March 26th 2011 in Brandenburg, near Berlin, calling for the release of attorney Horst Mahler, who is serving a 12-year jail sentence for the 'crime' of expressing source-critical opinions of Holocaust scepticism. The international demonstrators also call for the repeal of Germany's notorious 'Article 130' - a law which prevents the accused (and even their lawyers) from presenting forensic evidence (or any other scholarly evidence) in their defence. Thus German lawyers are jailed (and in ten other European countries may be prosecuted and heavily fined) if they seek to defend their clients too well! (video description)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rinfyz_0I-s
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I don't know exactly what to make of this yet, but shouldn't people all over the world be allowed to speak what they think?
Why is there a singular exception in Germany and other European countries?
How can politicians of Germany go around and reclaim free speech for Chinese dissidents without blushing?

What do you think?
i think the judicial system of Germany and those ten other European countries are all probably under the control of they and their secret society buddies, hence the reason for the injustice.

don't suppose you can tell me the names of those ten other European countries ?

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Old 08-04-2011, 02:04 PM   #3
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i think the judicial system of Germany and those ten other European countries are all probably under the control of they and their secret society buddies, hence the reason for the injustice.

don't suppose you can tell me the names of those ten other European countries ?
I did only copy not write the video description.

But you can even find the answer on wikipedia, at least correct to some extent.

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Old 08-04-2011, 02:14 PM   #4
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I did only copy not write the video description.

But you can even find the answer on wikipedia, at least correct to some extent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_ag...locaust_denial
thanks.
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Old 08-04-2011, 07:37 PM   #5
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thanks.
Anytime.

I like the idea of Lady Renouf of making a satire with Dinner for One
to explain the situation without colliding with the current unlawful laws.

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Old 09-04-2011, 06:41 AM   #6
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What a joke. Let's just get rid of the republics and so-called democracies and get back to our monarchism.
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Old 12-04-2011, 01:10 PM   #7
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I would like to know whether there are lawyers in prison for thought crime in your countries, too. Or any other people. Which countries?
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Old 15-04-2011, 08:21 AM   #8
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„I go to jail, the truth is worth it,
and the German people is worth it.
You want to change my belief by punishment,
but this is impossible."



Sylvia Stolz (born August 6, 1963 in Munich) is a German lawyer who has been jailed for three and a half years relating to the defense of historical revisionist Ernst Zündel. In addition she has been banned by the court for practicing law for five years.

On April 13, 2011 she was released.

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The mere fact that Sylvia fought tirelessly in defence of her clients was used as proof that she was "obstructing justice". Such is the Alice in Wonderland position in German courts: attempting to introduce evidence relevant to one's client's defence is automatically deemed criminally obstructive, if that client is accused of offending against the sacred and "mainifestly obvious" tenets of Holocaustianity.

Most unusually for this type of case, Sylvia Stolz was taken into custody immediately after the sentence, rather than remaining free on bail pending appeal. This could be seen as yet another example of the authoritarian German state seeking to make an example of a lawyer who acted too much in defence of her clients.

Background info in English: http://www.tellingfilms.co.uk/news-stolz.html
Honneur à Sylvia Stolz (French): http://robertfaurisson.blogspot.com/...max-results=11
Reports from the court room (German): http://www.nonkonformist.net/?s=Sylvia+Stolz

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http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...052870,00.html
http://www.jta.org/news/article/2011...aust-survivors
http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/...tions-1.354144

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Old 03-05-2011, 11:41 AM   #10
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So they don't jail lawyers for trying to introducing evidence relevant to their client's defence in other countries but Germany?


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So they don't jail lawyers for trying to introduce evidence relevant to their client's defence in other countries but Germany?


And nobody seems to be interested in this fact on this forum.

Weird.

If you do not understand or even perceive the global implications, please do not hesitate to put questions.


Your country will probably be the next where NWO illegality is declared to be legal.

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Old 04-05-2011, 09:26 PM   #12
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hows this NOT a breach of human rights, denying a lawyer, basically?

12years, more than for homicide, ridiculous.

is there more to this?

wheres rtl,pro7,sat1(jewish boss),ard,zdf?
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hows this NOT a breach of human rights, denying a lawyer, basically?

12years, more than for homicide, ridiculous.

is there more to this?

wheres rtl,pro7,sat1(jewish boss),ard,zdf?


Of course it is an open breach of human rights!

But as you can see on this thread nobody cares a sh*t about it.

The masses are just ignorant an dumb.

They still believe in msm propaganda.

Yes, there is MUCH MORE to this.

You may start with reading this comment: http://forum.davidicke.com/showthrea...post1059880482

You know who owns the media.

And thanks for posting and showing interest in this topic!
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Old 05-05-2011, 08:42 AM   #14
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The PTB used non complying dissidents to change their "laws" deliberately to curtail human rights.

Non complying dissidents are "NAZIs", "Neo-Nazis", "anti-Semites", "racists", "fascists", "intolerant misanthropist" and so on, according to the PTB.

Whoever falls in line with them, did not yet realise where this is leading to.

"First they came for the "nationalists" ... ", which are called "Nazis" by the PTB, at least in Germany.

Everything has been turned upside-down.

The last war never ended and you know "In war times the first to die is truth".

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Does anyone else finds this too highly ironic at all? It seems to me the Nazis did win after all!
I think you are basically right but the term "Nazi" is not appropriate.
I know the usage of this term is widely spread in the UK and US as a synonym for all evil on this planet, but this was deliberately done by the NWO freaks.
They successfully implemented this term into the brains of the masses.

"The Nazis" is misleading anyway. Who were "the Nazis"?
The German people? Some of them? Only the high ranking members of the NSDAP (National Socialist German Workers' Party) and government members?

Very misleading and deliberately implemented to be misleading and confusing those who do know nothing but mainstream propaganda.
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Old 05-05-2011, 07:56 PM   #16
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hi edel,

the hoax and scamming seems never ending,
in my books the 'nazi's' were a zionist invention, bleeding the whole world dry.
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hi edel,

the hoax and scamming seems never ending,
in my books the 'nazi's' were a zionist invention, bleeding the whole world dry.
Nice to see that there is at least one person on this forum who is able to lift the veils of lies and deception in this respect.

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