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Old 03-10-2009, 08:25 AM   #281
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Good work guys!

I really hope that it will be a no, I am not from Ireland, but I am praying that people vote no and the whole Lisbon treaty falls apart.
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Old 03-10-2009, 10:21 AM   #282
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They have only been counting for two hours but RTE is reporting a strong Yes... Declan Ganley has already conceded.
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Old 03-10-2009, 11:32 AM   #283
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Look like a yes vote then
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Old 03-10-2009, 12:38 PM   #284
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Looks like a big majority "Yes".
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Old 03-10-2009, 02:48 PM   #285
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Looks like a big majority "Yes".
To be honest the No campaign didn't do as much, didn't work harder, I said it will be a Yes way back when, because I have noticed the propaganda was stronger than the last time.

And the fact they came forward and said there wouldn't be another referendum if the result is No this time around, which means they know something we don't, which means somewhere, somehow they've cheated

Bribery does wonders, they had all businesses backed the Yes campaign all I have to say to them, to hell all of it, when they are F** then it will be too late.

And guess what, the first ones to deny they ever voted Yes are those who voted Yes.

I wish we could keep records of who voted what, so we can shove it down their throats later WTSHTF.

I am so bleeding angry and I noticed the ptb and the media were quite confident.
I must give them their due, they get what they want, when they want it, and there's nothing we can do and that's why they are freaking masters.

Fuck it all....
Why should I care? To hell with it
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Old 03-10-2009, 03:06 PM   #286
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I am so bleeding angry and I noticed the ptb and the media were quite confident.
I must give them their due, they get what they want, when they want it, and there's nothing we can do and that's why they are freaking masters.
I disagree with you, mate. More people are waking up to this bullshit than at any other time in recorded history. More and more people are waking up every day. At very least, we can plan to resist and disconnect by becoming self-reliant.
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Old 03-10-2009, 05:14 PM   #287
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I am still proud of my Irish heritage,today hasn't changed that,my shame is for does that try to claim as I do.I do not and will not recognize the EU in its present form.I am not a citizen of the EU,I am as I have always been an Irish citizen.

Today I am a little shell shocked,bewildered and annoyed that the fat,selfish apathetic fuckers of this country,that didn't think enough of those that died for their freedom enough to retain it.Today corruption and manipulation won out in the end.

Today the battle was lost,but tomorrow the war continues.I AM IRISH AND I AM PROUD,I WOULD RATHER FIGHT AND DIE FOR FREEDOM,THAN DIE OLD,AFRAID AND A SLAVE.


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Old 03-10-2009, 05:23 PM   #288
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I think the sad part of the yes vote today, is that Irish freedom that was so hard for down through decades of oppression, has been handed over so easily through the manipulation of fear in our lives.

Its not over. Its round two I,m happy to be standing within the ranks of the no voters, regardless of todays outcome. It just makes the battle a bit tougher.

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I disagree with you, mate. More people are waking up to this bullshit than at any other time in recorded history. More and more people are waking up every day. At very least, we can plan to resist and disconnect by becoming self-reliant.
Yes mate you can disagree with me, that was my point and to be honest? I have lost all faith in the fucking human race, they are slaves and that's why they will always be treated as slaves unfortunately we all become slaves no thanks to them.

Even if we're not slaves in our hearts and minds we will be because of some fuckers who can't be bothered to wake up, on one hand I want to be there and have a big shitty smile on my face when the shut hits the fan.

You can probably hear it in my comments that I am bitterly bitterly disappointed.

No mate not more and more people are waking up, this is non sense, if that were true, we would have a NO today, just comes to show how good they are at manipulation and how dumb the general public really is.

Millions gave their lives for our freedom and the freedom of some fuckers and some greedy corrupt stinky bitches.

I am out

Good luck everyone, be ready when the shit hits the fan (WTHTF)
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THE IRISH REFERENDUM OUTCOME IS NULL AND VOID
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5 October 2009




THE IRISH REFERENDUM OUTCOME IS NULL AND VOID
BALLOT BOXES ILLEGALLY DELIVERED 48 HOURS IN ADVANCE
Monday 5 October 2009 00:01

IRISH ELECTORAL LAW FLOUTED, CANCELLING OUT THE RESULT

BLATANT AMERICAN INTERFERENCE IN IRELAND'S INTERNAL AFFAIRS

ILLEGAL BLUEPRINT FOR THE INTENDED EUROPEAN GESTAPO

NOTORIOUS IRISH EUROPHILE HINTS AT THIS WEBSITE

YES, THE EUROPEAN COMMISSION IS A CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE

PLUS: REPEAT OF THE UPDATE APPENDED TO THE REPORT OF 2ND OCTOBER

• BRIBERY AND CORRUPTION MORE EFFICIENT THAN BLITZKRIEG

• SUBVERSION OF EUROPEAN NATIONS, SUBVERSION OF THE UNITED STATES


IRISH ELECTORAL LAW FLOUTED, CANCELLING OUT THE RESULT
Our published information that the Irish Referendum on the dictatorial Lisbon Treaty was rigged, is ACCURATE. However at the time of the Update to the report dated 2nd October (see below) we hadn’t yet obtained details of the WAY the Referendum was rigged and influenced in favour of the treacherous YES lobby. We now have this information.

This is how the Irish were ‘persuaded’ to change their minds:

(1): Ballot boxes may have been stuffed prior to the Referendum polling booths opening.

Specifically:

• Under Irish law, ballot boxes are required to be delivered by members of the garda (police) to the polling stations at 7:00 am on the date the election takes place.

• This legal requirement applies to ALL polling in Ireland, whether elections or referenda.

• On this occasion, however, the ballot boxes were delivered to the private residences of the polling/Returning Officers, 48 hours prior to the Referendum.

• A number of honest Returning Officers formally objected to this BREACH OF PROCEDURE, and to the concomitant prospective breach of security, let alone of the electoral legislation.

• We understand that such objections were officially dismissed out of hand on the spurious and diversionary grounds that the ballot boxes possessed no commercial value, so it would be in nobody’s commercial interest to steal them.

• The central issue – that since the Irish ballot boxes were delivered 48 hours early they could be ‘stuffed’ with YES votes, as routinely happens in places like the former Soviet Republic of Georgia – was of course not addressed.

• It follows that, given that the local electoral law was flouted, THE OUTCOME OF THE IRISH REFERENDUM IS FRAUDULENT AND MUST IMMEDIATELY BE DECLARED NULL AND VOID.

• Furthermore, the following questions NEED TO BE ANSWERED IMMEDIATELY:

ONE: What is the total number of registered voters in Ireland?

TWO: How many voters voted in the Referendum?

THREE: Was the total vote tally greater than #One above?

• Any operation to steamroller the Lisbon Treaty (after the Polish and Czech Governments have been bribed by the Germans) will accordingly be FRAUDULENT on this basis alone.

• It will therefore follow that ALL MEASURES taken under the Lisbon Treaty will likewise be illegal – not that this is anything new, as the European Union Collective is itself blatantly illegal, not least because the Treaty of Rome documents were never properly signed (given that several attendees signed blank sheets of paper because their translations were not available at the time of signing).

(2) Blatant American interference in the internal affairs of Ireland:

• INTEL (which is of course a US intelligence community operation, as its name implies) advertised heavily for a YES vote, promoting the FALSE assessment that if the Irish voted NO, ‘Ireland could be left isolated from the European Single Market at a time when the economy needs support’ (1) (because it has been ENRONISED by the Syndicate, as previously explained in these reports).

• That assertion was a blatant falsehood. The Single Market operates under the successive treaties of the fraudulent EU Collective, the currently applicable one being the Nice Treaty. Therefore, whether Lisbon was approved or not would make no difference at all.

• Thus the CIA’s INTEL was LYING TO THE IRISH PEOPLE.

On the basis of this precedent, we presume that the United States would have no objection if, say, the British were to buy newspaper space and broadcast time to lobby for a given outcome every time the United States goes to the polls.

(One can imagine how FURIOUS Americans would be if we tried any such outrage).

• This blatant US intelligence community interference in Irish internal affairs by the engine of instability which has ravaged the Irish financial economy represents yet another odious example of the notorious tendency for the CIA to interfere in the domestic affairs of other countries in pursuit of its own selfish objectives – in this case, shoring up the prospectively disintegrating European wing of the TWIN DVD operation to assert the hegemony of pan-German long-range control strategy on the two main victors of the World Wars, Britain and America.

• Unsurprisingly, letters are now appearing in the press [as for instance in The Sunday Telegraph of 4th October] making our point that the so-called Special Relationship is a total farce and has been for decades, as the United States routinely treats Britain with contempt: as, for instance, by allowing the DVD-activated IRA and its splinters to raise money in the United States for the purpose of murdering British citizens and troops en masse.

• The fraudulent Irish Referendum outcome theoretically destroys residual British sovereignty, given that the EU exists explicitly to usurp and hijack the sovereignty of its satrap ‘Member States’: see the Editor’s work ‘The European Union Collective: Enemy of its Member States’ [available from the Edward Harle Limited books segment of this website].

ILLEGAL BLUEPRINT FOR THE INTENDED EUROPEAN GESTAPO
Officials in Brussels have ALREADY set up a Committee on Internal Security (COSI) under the Lisbon Treaty EVEN THOUGH THE LISBON TREATY HAS NOT BEEN RATIFIED. THIS IS ANOTHER BLATANTLY ILLEGAL ACT which renders ALL operations of this Stalinist-sounding revolutionary oppression mechanism ILLEGAL in perpetuity.

• It also calls into question the very purpose of the Irish Referendum itself, raising the rhetorical question: what is the point of bothering the Irish electorate with this latest insult to their tranquillity and intelligence, if the EU’s bureaucrats, who are ANSWERABLE TO NOBODY, have been going ahead with provisions of the Lisbon Treaty even though it has not been ratified?

(They have been doing this in many other areas, too).

• Of course, the purpose of the Irish Referendum to get the insulted Irish electorate to change its mind from the verdict that it handed down in the Referendum of June 2008 is purely and simply to provide the intended illegitimate and illegal operations of the EU Collective with a false veneer of ‘legitimacy’, in the knowledge that the lazy and sycophantic so-called ‘mainstream’ media will just cow-tow and go along with these obnoxious illegalities. In so doing, journalists are validating the illegal behaviour of the manipulators that we have identified.

• Under the illegal COSI blueprint (in which, of course, as usual, the treacherous, revolutionary British authorities participated illegally), law enforcement and “public security organizations” will share intelligence, material from Internet surveillance, and other elements of national security arrangements, acquiring powers over the satrap Member States’ police and security services (2).

• A spokesman for the European Civil Liberties Network, Tony Bunyan, summarised the position correctly with the following statement. The COSI arrangements, implemented illegally PRIOR TO RATIFICATION of the Lisbon Treaty, represented a step towards an ‘EU Home Office or Interior Ministry without any democratic control’. Making the mistake of accepting this outrage as a fait accompli, he nevertheless elaborated:

‘It is outrageous that the rôle of the new EU Internal Security Committee has been decided in secret. If COSI becomes a high-level legislative body, a swathe of decision-making and practice will be removed from democratic debate’.

• The Lisbon Treaty WHICH HAS NOT BEEN RATIFIED, provides that: ‘A standing committee shall be set up within the [European] Council in order to ensure that operational co-operation on internal security is promoted and strengthened within the union’.

• ‘Unbelievably’ (but then again, NOT), an unnamed official involved in this treasonous activity said: ‘Sometimes it is better not to spell things out too much in order to keep flexibility and to allow officials the creativity of a blank slate’. Translation from weasel-language into jackboot Nazi-speak:

• 'We require absolute unfettered carte blanche to impose our dictatorship upon the satrap peoples of Europe and we won’t brook any interference with our stolen prerogative to saddle them with a control régime which will ensure our total hegemony, whether they like it or not’.

NOTORIOUS IRISH EUROPHILE HINTS AT THIS WEBSITE
The former Attorney General of Ireland and now Chairman of British Petroleum, a man notorious for his slavish ideological support for the European Union Collective, Peter Sutherland, was reported on 4th October 2009 to have made the following statement as soon as the rigged Irish Referendum outcome had been announced:

‘This is an outstanding victory for common sense. It was the result of dispelling myths, some of which emanated from the United Kingdom. This was a great achievement with a government in some difficulty and a vital step forward for Ireland’.

• However the YES lobby dispensed MYTHS on a prodigious scale, the primary myth being the lie, identified above, that ‘Ireland could be left isolated from the European Single Market’, when in fact the outcome of the Referendum would and could MAKE NO DIFFERENCE.

• Sutherland, who hates the likes of us, hinted that what we say about the European Commission being a criminal enterprise, is false. In that case, Mr Sutherland, we suggest that you should take the matter up (a) with the UK Serious Fraud Office in London [see our reports dated 2nd October and 16th/20th September 2009]; and (b) with the European Court of Auditors in Luxembourg [see our report dated 2nd October 2009].

YES, THE EUROPEAN COMMISSION IS A CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE
For, as discussed in our report dated 2nd October, the executive arm of the European Union Collective is a CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE, given that its financial accounts have been specifically DISAPPROVED by the EU’s own Court of Auditors for the past 14 financial years running. For the record, we repeat the information on this subject contained in that report:

• OPEN-ENDED EUROPEAN COMMISSION CORRUPTION:
As previously reported by this service, the accounts of the European Commission have been rejected FOR THE PAST 14 YEARS RUNNING by the European Union's own expert Court of Auditors. This means that the European Commission, which is an illegitimate corporate entity anyway, is a CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE. It must be continually exposed as such.

Further, the UK Serious Fraud Office have specifically CONFIRMED that remittance of taxpayers' funds into the hands of a criminal enterprise IS OF COURSE ITSELF A CRIMINAL OFFENCE.

What is more, our Irish associate, Richard Sharpe, visited the Court of Auditors in Luxembourg recently and obtained SPECIFIC CONFIRMATION from an official there, MR GEZA NOVACS, who told Richard that quote 'the European Accounts have not been signed off ('qualified') for fourteen years or more' unquote.

That is to say, THEY ARE INDEED FRAUDULENT.

Given this state of affairs, the European Commission's accounts CAN NEVER BE RECTIFIED. For that to happen, it would be necessary to go back to the last set of accounts that WAS APPROVED (15 YEARS AGO) and to work through all the detail, identifying the frauds and perpetrators of fraud, initiating proceedings against them, revealing every single theft and misappropriation in Notes to the Accounts, and implementing the necessary accounting adjustments. This operation would take years and of course IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.

THEREFORE the European Commission will remain a CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE IN PERPETUITY.

This was all reported in the exposure analysis posted here on 16th/20th September. The relevant text was reappended as Note 1 to the report dated 2nd October [Archive].

•NOTE: We understand that our reiteration of these painful realities is now causing the Eurocracy and the free-wheeling anti-nation state 'Useful Idiot' Europhile community considerable disquiet.

AND WE REPEAT HERE THE UPDATE APPENDED TO THE 2ND OCTOBER REPORT

UPDATE, 4th October 2009:

IRISH LISBON TREATY REFERENDUM 'WAS RIGGED'
Our very informed sources state AS FACT that the Irish Referendum on the Lisbon Treaty has been rigged. The article below, as you may have noticed, was angled so as to seek to persuade voters to see sense. But the nests of serpents with which we are dealing are dense. The European Union and its Commission are criminal enterprises, after all: this insufferable Germanic institution exists for the sole purpose of hijacking and usurping BY STEALTH its satrap 'Member States'' national sovereignty. That is its ENTIRE purpose, as is explained in the Editor's exhaustive European study entitled 'The European Union Collective: Enemy of its Member States' (2002) [available from this website: see Edward Harle Limited Books segment].

It is AN IMMENSE, LONG-RANGE GRADUALIST OPERATION, aided and abetted by traitors inside the European national political and bureaucratic establishments, modelled on Hitler's 'Coup d'etat by installments'. That phrase was originally coined by a German living in the United States, Konrad Heiden, and published in his book 'Der Fuehrer', Boston, 1944, on page 579, cited in 'Thirty Days: Hitler's Thirty Days to Power, January 1933', by the US author, Henry Ashby Turner Jr. [Addison-Wesley Publishing Company, Inc., Reading, MA and New York, 1996].

In a remarkable new study (3), the Regius Professor of Modern History at Cambridge University, Richard J. Evans, explains, amid his horrific and meticulous accounts of the routine atrocities perpetrated by the internally feuding Nazis and their gauleiters (going far, far beyond what the general public holds in its eroding collective memory), that the most conspicuous and perpetual feature of the Nazi regime was: RAMPANT CORRUPTION, PILLAGING, STEALING, GRAFT AND CONVERSION/DIVERSION OF ASSETS: in other words, WHAT WE HAVE BEEN RECORDING.

• Moreover the gauleiters and their associates STOLE FROM AND RANSACKED EACH OTHER.

• Does that sound familiar? Of course it does. THAT'S WHAT THESE NAZIS DO.

And it is this CORRUPTION that has survived to destabilise the whole world in OUR TIME.

BRIBERY AND CORRUPTION MORE EFFICIENT THAN BLITZKRIEG
Because what has happened is that these Nazis, using the big German, Swiss and French banks, and the Vatican, later to be joined by British institutions, found that BRIBERY AND CORRUPTION, which came naturally to them anyway, was a more efficient means of achieving their demented hegemony objectives than military force and Blitzkrieg.

Had the Editor not discovered and experienced this from INSIDE THE SNAKE DEN, we wouldn't have been in a position to expose this behaviour 'from within'. Our unspeakable experience, therefore, was 'meant to happen', so that these exposures could be framed and published in our journal and on this website for the whole world to see and understand.

• The point here being that FRAUD, BRIBERY AND BALLOT-RIGGING go hand in hand with the sick Fraudulent Finance practices proliferated originally by the pan-German FIFTH COLUMN inside the US Intelligence Power, WHICH IS A CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE.

SUBVERSION OF EUROPEAN NATIONS, SUBVERSION OF THE UNITED STATES
The 'Coup d'etat by installments' in Europe is the TWIN OPERATION, running in parallel with Nazi subversion of the United States by the same operatives, masterminded by the long-range strategic deception 'Black' Nazi Continuum agency based at Dachau, which operates 'independently' of the German Chancellor. Obviously, Hitler's 'Coup d'etat by installments' was implemented over a much shorter timeframe: BUT THE PRINCIPLE IS THE SAME. The rigged Irish Referendum outcome is just another dirty step towards the imminent smothering of the residual sovereignty of the once great nations of Europe, with Britain ALWAYS seen by the pan-German snakes as the main target.

On page 164 of 'Thirty Days', the author described Hitler's 'Coup d'etat by Installments' as follows:

'Only by banning the Communist deputies and by resorting to intimidation and mendacity did Hitler secure on March 23 the necessary two-thirds vote in the new Reichstag for an Enabling Act that transferred legislative authority to his Cabinet, ostensibly for four years. A wave of Nazi purges followed, as one institution after another was subjugated. Arbitrary rule replaced government by law in what has aptly been termed a "Coup d'etat by installments"'.

'By summer, all parties except the Nazis had been dissolved, Hugenberg had been forced out of the Cabinet and Hitler had relegated Papen to insignificance by winning the trust of the President. Even earlier Goering had wrested from Papen control over the government of the largest state, Prussia. Well before the Nazi leader assumed the powers of the Presidency upon the death of Hindenburg in August 1934, he had become dictator of Germany'.

THIS IS THE MODEL, OPERATING IN GRADUALIST MODE, THAT IS BEING DEPLOYED TO SUBVERT THE RESIDUAL SOVEREIGNTY OF THE STUPID EUROPEAN NATIONS, LED BY TRAITORS AND DESPICABLE DUMKOPFS WITHIN THE NATIONAL STRUCTURES, WHO HAVE CONFUSED COOPERATION WITH SOCIALIST ‘COLLECTIVISATION’ (4).

That the Irish Referendum has been rigged is therefore NO SURPRISE. For we are dealing with ruthless crooks, which is why they are keen on having the British deceiver, intelligence operative and crook, Tony BLIAR, as their first President, to match that disgusting little Portuguese operative, Barroso. Stand by now for consequences similar, in the contemporary context, to those events that followed Hitler's acquisition of GENERAL POWERS from the Legislature by means of INTIMIDATION and MENDACITY, the techniques which, with bribery, have been used to rig the Referendum (5).


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1: The Sunday Telegraph, Business Section, 4th October 2009.

2: The Sunday Telegraph, page 3, 4th October 2009.

3: Richard J. Evans, Regius Professor of Modern History, Cambridge University, 'The Third Reich at War', The Penguin Press, New York, 2009, ISBN 978-1-59420-2006-3.

4: The Editor first understood this when he found himself sitting next to the former British Foreign Secretary, Douglas (Lord) Hurd, on a plane some years ago. Although the Editor carefully avoided confronting Hurd until the end of the flight, he established that Hurd valued British membership of the EU Collective because it fostered ‘cooperation’. However one can cooperate with an external party without getting into bed with them. It was further clear that, wittingly or not, he confused this naïve, mythical ideal of ‘cooperation’ – which suddenly evaporates when the Germans and French want their own way and browbeat all the other EU satrap states in order to get it – with the reality, namely CREEPING COLLECTIVISATION via ever-expanding oppressive regulation which is designed to usurp and destroy national sovereignty – the same objective as Lenin, Stalin and Hitler. So you can appreciate why these ‘Useful Idiots’ (as Lenin called all those who assist the World Revolution without realising what they are doing) are justly called TRAITORS.

5: We are describing and living through components, phases and elements of the ONGOING WORLD REVOLUTION, in case you hadn’t noticed.

• We will revert to the 'usual issues' soon, but, as you will appreciate, these matters are of vital importance and had to be addressed straight away.
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Old 05-10-2009, 09:01 AM   #291
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Good post.

Have these returning officers made complaints to the garda commisioner, or any public figure, or politician at this stage , or do they intend to.

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• This legal requirement applies to ALL polling in Ireland, whether elections or referenda.

• On this occasion, however, the ballot boxes were delivered to the private residences of the polling/Returning Officers, 48 hours prior to the Referendum.

• A number of honest Returning Officers formally objected to this BREACH OF PROCEDURE, and to the concomitant prospective breach of security, let alone of the electoral legislation.

• We understand that such objections were officially dismissed out of hand on the spurious and diversionary grounds that the ballot boxes possessed no commercial value, so it would be in nobody’s commercial interest to steal them.

• The central issue – that since the Irish ballot boxes were delivered 48 hours early they could be ‘stuffed’ with YES votes, as routinely happens in places like the former Soviet Republic of Georgia – was of course not addressed.

• It follows that, given that the local electoral law was flouted, THE OUTCOME OF THE IRISH REFERENDUM IS FRAUDULENT AND MUST IMMEDIATELY BE DECLARED NULL AND VOID.
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Good post.

Have these returning officers made complaints to the garda commisioner, or any public figure, or politician at this stage , or do they intend to.

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I doubt complaining to the Garda commissioner will do much good,he would have had prior knowledge of the fraud,so as not to send any Gardai to the polling stations.
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Old 07-10-2009, 01:30 AM   #293
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What Action can be taken?

There must be something...I am not familiar with the process/laws/rules, but I iwould think there is something somewhere written of what people can do.

Is this not so?
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