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Old 12-12-2013, 04:16 AM   #1241
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Dr Turner earned her Masters Degree in American Studies and her PhD in Old English Studies. How does either of those qualifications and this sort of knowledge command anyone’s respect in the field of Alien Abductions? You are trying to make it seem as if she were a scientist using recognized scientific procedures.

There is no way therapists can differentiate between real memories and false memories. There is yet no scientific methodology which would enable a therapist to do this.

You should read this scientific paper, by people actually qualified in this field in “Perspectives on Psychological Science” entitled “How to Tell If a Particular Memory Is True or False”

Here is the Abstract:

How can you tell if a particular memory be-longing to you or someone else is true or false? Cognitive scientists use a variety of techniques to measure groups of memories, whereas police, lawyers, and other researchers use procedures to determine whether an individual can be
believed or not. We discuss evidence from behavioral and neuroimaging studies and research on lying that have attempted to distinguish true from false memories.


and here is an extract from that paper:

However, like the focus on groups of memories and on the individual reporting the memory, the focus on single rich
memories presently does not tell us whether a particular memory is true or false.


and the concluding sentences:

Our job as memory researchers and as human beings is to determine the portion of memory that reflects reality and the portion that reflects inference and bias. This is no simple feat, but one worthy of our continued investigation

Get those last words “worthy of continued investigation”. In other words there is no way of reliably doing such a thing at this time.

Source: https://webfiles.uci.edu/eloftus/Ber...Mem_POPS09.pdf

One may well ask, how did Karla Turner, not being an expert, assess whether a therapist was genuine or not? Don’t forget this is not a contest between real memories and deliberate false ones, i.e. lies. Someone can genuinely, sincerely believe something happened when it didn’t so they are not lying, even though the memory may e false.

I’m afraid that none of this confirms Arizona Wilder’s experiences.
Scientists that study sleep state that there is a perception that tells us if we are in a dream state or in reality, and that kind of perceptions have not yet been discovered by therapists. Of course on can tell what is a real memory of something that happened in reality of if a memory is false. This can be determined with an electronics machine in Scientology and also a poligraph (lie detector) has that capacity, and in this regard, there is a hypnotic method to peal off the implanted false memories to get to the underlying real memory, that is also done in an awake state in scientology and with the poligraph. A real memory in a hypnotic state sends the person to live again the incident, and in an awake state can produce pains and physical changes in the body. It has been reported the case of a hypnotic regression of a child in court where the child died while in the regression. False memories do not do that.
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Old 25-12-2013, 08:41 PM   #1242
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I AM VERY SORRY, BUT I WOUDN'T BE PUTTING THIS IF THIS WERE NOT INDIRECTLY CONFIRMED BY REAL POLICE RECORDS CALLED THE "DUTREAUX AFFAIR".

I have the idea for this christmas that this children deserve a fair christmas too and that will be posible if we know what to do to stop this.

"Yvonne Shamsan compartió un estado.
Hace 4 horas
People keep asking if Jesus is.

Jesus is... But it does not take an indirect connection throught the pedophile and children rapists, who burnt the kids alive in the woods of Holland last years... Christ is but it does not take ANY pedophile, toddlers' rapist and murderer (Retzinger the last pop), ANY church or any holidays established through the most ruthless criminals and perverts (open your mind to the history and the way they, who established the official church, tortured and prosecuted the first Christians) to make the individual, very strong, physically proven connection with Jesus.
No pedophile or children seducer and murderer needed, to talk to Jesus in person and to receive the answers.

I thank God for that the thoughts of the millions, who see the sons of the hell pedophiles in the hell they belong to, materialize.

The little one ... Came with trust... For Love... For respect... For the true spiritual acceptance... To love and care with the hopeful prayer to receive the true love and care... The sons' of the hell filthy hands reached it's innocent body... When the little eyes still tried to look at them with hope... Neglected... Violated... Raped and killed... GOD IN HEAVEN !!!!!!!! AND THE DISRESPECTFUL HUMAN KIND TELL ME THEY KNEW ABOUT IT... AND DID NOTHING TO REVEAL AND STOP THE BEAST!!!!!!! GOD IN HEAVEN!!!!! BEYOND MY COMPREHENSION!!!!!!!!! JESUS CHRIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.. .......

The toddlers, calmed and peaceful, by the Throne Of The Greatest God, will not need to see you nor hear your moaning from the burning abyss.

Obama's worker tries to kill the casualty of the CIA, government, church and military freemasonic occult rapes of the little children.
More explanation in the long
interview.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnsXI46ZFsE

http://itccs.org/2013/10/28/i-saw-jo...is-of-holland/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-A1o1...e_gdata_player

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYkbW...e_gdata_player

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5qw...e_gdata_player

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Old 23-06-2014, 09:24 AM   #1243
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Cybersurf's comments on the London Olympics came to be very appropriate:

No doubt the London Olympics were a brainwashing to the planetary mind. The message was clear: "This civilization is doomed and we, the City of London shape shifters are the ones to destroy it and rule in the new one created".

Also, it was made clear that the City of London is "Israel". So, with the Balfour Declaration, that handed Palestine to "dear Lord Rothschild" zionists, the stage is ready to protagonize Armagedon in the Middle East.

But it dones not have to be that way.

The United Kingdom shape shifting rulers are using Israel, and Israel is using the USA to balkanize the Middle East, starting with Iraq. ISIS and ISIL's blitzkrieg in Iraq is in reality a non conventional BRITISH ARMY BLITZKRIEG!

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According to Mahdi Darius Nazemroaya in a 2011 Global Research article, The Yinon Plan was a continuation of Britain’s colonial design in the Middle East:

“[The Yinon plan] is an Israeli strategic plan to ensure Israeli regional superiority. It insists and stipulates that Israel must reconfigure its geo-political environment through the balkanization of the surrounding Arab states into smaller and weaker states.

Israeli strategists viewed Iraq as their biggest strategic challenge from an Arab state. This is why Iraq was outlined as the centerpiece to the balkanization of the Middle East and the Arab World. In Iraq, on the basis of the concepts of the Yinon Plan, Israeli strategists have called for the division of Iraq into a Kurdish state and two Arab states, one for Shiite Muslims and the other for Sunni Muslims. The first step towards establishing this was a war between Iraq and Iran, which the Yinon Plan discusses.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/greater...e-east/5324815

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Old 25-06-2014, 04:48 AM   #1244
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Armageddon is not a Biblical Event. Armageddon is being created by British Intelligence! Secret Societies create "Biblical Prophecy".



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Cressida Dick, the Metropolitan Police’s assistant commissioner and head of specialist operations, told the Daily Mail Britain will experience increased terrorism for “many years” as a result of young British men participating in the Syrian war.

“I’m afraid I believe that we will be living with the consequences of Syria — from a terrorist point of view, let alone the world, geopolitical consequences — for many, many, many years to come,” Dick told the BBC Radio 4 over the weekend.


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The Daily Mail cites Richard Barrett, a former head of counter-terrorism at MI6, who estimated “possibly up to 300 people have come back to the UK” since the start of the West’s proxy war in Syria. He said intelligence services are confronted with an “impossible” task in tracking them.

Barrett said the war in Syria funded and supported by the United States, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey, with U.S. military trained terrorists “is likely to be an incubator for a new generation of terrorists.” He estimated that more than 12,000 foreign mercenaries have traveled to Syria since the United States and its partners launched the war against the al-Assad government in Damascus.
http://www.infowars.com/terror-creat...or-many-years/



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Old 22-10-2014, 06:48 AM   #1245
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I wonder why so much insistence on London being the new Zion. God promised the jews they will rule the world. Is that why London wants to be the New Zion?

Would it be that the extraterrestrial custodial "Gods" controlling this planet want a come back on the land of Israel?

I just found this link:

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In the constellation Pegasus there is a solar system called MARCAB, a sun surrounded by seven planets. But the sun is going to die. So the humanoid Marcabians who, in our terms would be "evil" in nature, looked about for another planet to move to. Well, having good taste, they finally decided to take the planet Earth. But there were people on this planet who were in the way for them to settle down here with all their people. But on the other hand these people could be used as slaves, freeing the Marcabians from having to work. So they made up a plan and contacted one race down here, with whom they made a deal that, if they would help them to undermine every nation and take them over silently, they would make them the ruling people of earth. Well guess which people the Marcabians made the deal with? Bingo! -- the Hebrews!

L.Ron Hubbard found out what the Sumerian records, the Gilgamesh epic, the Christian Bible and other books describe as well, that Marcabian "god-like" beings came down from heaven with flying saucers. The ancient people not knowing about machines, described them as something they could relate to: a flying cloud or a "flying wheel that came from heaven" with noise and steam, or the "eye of God" (surely it must be an accident that the eye on the Illuminati sign on the one-dollar bill has the shape of a saucer?).

Hubbard found out who EL SHADDAI was and still is -- the extraterrestrial race that made the original deal with the Hebrews.

And from then on this was taught in the Scientology Church, from the grade OT3 in the hierarchy upwards. You think this is nonsense? Then read the following sentences carefully! If this was nonsensical, nothing more would have happened besides some ridiculing and sneering. But you will always recognise by the severity something is treated whether it is in somebody's way.

Of course the Khazar-Jewish Illuminati and the "Hebrew Blood Alliance" (the descendants of those Hebrews who had made the deal with the Marcabians, another Secret Lodge) soon found out about Hubbard's discovery, but his organisation was already too powerful to fight. So the ruling Khazar-Illuminati started, as the Marcabians told them to (already in the Old Testament), undermining and infiltrating the organisation and taking it over. So guess what happened!

In 1981 the complete Church of Scientology in every nation on the planet had been bought by the biggest WHISKEY producer on Earth, the Canadian Jew Bronfman.

Now you will understand why the most important people in Scientology as well as all the original founders had left the Church at that time. Because since then the Church of Scientology is a Khazar-Jewish Illuminati organisation. Surprised?
I got this information from the founder of Scientology in Germany, as well as from people in the US who worked with Hubbard until he died. (These people do not wish to be named, as they have a difficult life already.)

Does all this make sense?
http://members.iimetro.com.au/~hubbc...nfiltrated.htm

NOTE: The constellation Hubbard refers to is not pegasus and the star Marcab, but instead Hubbard refers to the constellation of Ursa Major, the Big Dipper, and one of the tail stars.

The founder of Scientology (Freezone Scientology) in Germany is Capt. Bill Robertson.
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