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Old 01-04-2017, 09:46 PM   #1
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Watched David's latest videocast where he's on location and talking in front of the Nikola Tesla statue. Icke mentioned that Tesla had 300 patents to his name, including wireless technology, infrared beams as well as free energy. A man of many talents and achievements, but sadly not someone who has been greatly credited, in fact he's often (from what I read) been portrayed as a mad scientist for one of a better word, by many within and outside the mainstream scientific community. Whether or not Tesla did indeed discover free energy by tapping into the fabric of the universe I don't know, but I suspect his claims are highly dubious.

I still have a hard time accepting the idea that free energy exists at all by harnessing the fabric or space around us and it being infinite. Talk to anyone about free energy and they will absolutely state that it's impossible. They will also say that no energy is free. Even if free energy exists the people running the world would still be able to charge people to use it. If you could power your home forever using rain water, the government/tptp would still try (and no doubt would succeed) to charge people to use it as a means of energy for their home.

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That's the catch though. If such devices could be developed you can bet that you would only have rental access to them rather than ownership and there would be laws to ensure you had to pay charges.

I guess the only way around it is for somebody to develop such a device that can be easily copied by the average person and then we would see for sure.
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Watched David's latest videocast where he's on location and talking in front of the Nikola Tesla statue. Icke mentioned that Tesla had 300 patents to his name, including wireless technology, infrared beams as well as free energy. A man of many talents and achievements, but sadly not someone who has been greatly credited, in fact he's often (from what I read) been portrayed as a mad scientist for one of a better word, by many within and outside the mainstream scientific community. Whether or not Tesla did indeed discover free energy by tapping into the fabric of the universe I don't know, but I suspect his claims are highly dubious.

I still have a hard time accepting the idea that free energy exists at all by harnessing the fabric or space around us and it being infinite. Talk to anyone about free energy and they will absolutely state that it's impossible. They will also say that no energy is free. Even if free energy exists the people running the world would still be able to charge people to use it. If you could power your home forever using rain water, the government/tptp would still try (and no doubt would succeed) to charge people to use it as a means of energy for their home.
Free energy in its basic form is free and given to the planet by our sun but those who own this resource by proxy are the ones who will strive to hold onto it for dear life and the life of millions being born today who will never received its life enabling force as the sun goes down every evening.

What humans tend to forget is

Life is a camera
The film is photosynthesis
From which everything develops

All we need to do is refuse to pay for it beyond it reaching us after the conservation stage.

Because you can bet your bottom dollar that when it eventually runs out, abiotic or not, what will replace it won't be shared out evenly either.

Thus we need to invent the alternatives now, and share it free immediately with everyone because not doing this will enable those who deem it theirs for the taking will always monopolise the free energy by patents designed to hoard rather than share.

It's down to the individual with the best ideas to prevent them from being compartmentalised.
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Old 02-04-2017, 07:08 AM   #4
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they've had all tesla's patents an ideas for themselves for ages

the possible level of technology they have could be immense

but then at the same time. they don't have the same heart n mind as tesla so using his stuff could be hard



although they probably now have laboratories full of naïve little genius's who have been brainwashed into thinking they are helping humanity when all they really help is further destroy humans liberty
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If people invented their own free energy system then all of a sudden ditched their energy companies and ditched the grid, the energy companies would immediately be smelling a rat and soon discover why. Prosecutions, law suits and confiscation of these devices will be enforced to stop people in their tracks. The next you know these free energy devices will be no more and some law will be made to make it illegal to come off the energy grid. Yes if people did this en masse then there's little they can do about it, but that's the big problem, no one is going to do that.

What would free energy do to the motor industry? it would crush them and no doubt result in phenomenal job losses.

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What would free energy do to the motor industry? it would crush them and no doubt result in phenomenal job losses.
Precisely why ex Pres. George Wubbya Bush junior issued General Motors with lawsuits, them having produced 100 perfectly successful solar battery powered cars if they (or any other car company) produced any more. His Oil baron buddies were not happy bunnies.

See the film, use the site:

http://www.whokilledtheelectriccar.com

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Its one of those things people talk loads about but nobody seems to have a clue as to how to achieve it. When I was into UFO stuff I recall reading a story, possibly Albert Benders, where he was given the plans for a free energy device. He made the device but it went through is roof and he was apparently unable to replicate it, which makes it sound like bullshit.

You would think that if the principles were so well known that somebody could come up with a small working model to prove the design.
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Precisely why ex Pres. George Wubbya Bush junior issued General Motors with lawsuits, them having produced 100 perfectly successful solar battery powered cars if they (or any other car company) produced any more. His Oil baron buddies were not happy bunnies.

See the film, use the site:

http://www.whokilledtheelectriccar.com
I watched this several years ago and the complete grinding up of the cars was truly criminal indeed.

If I could come back again it would be as a journeyman between 1814 and 1914 where there was a hundred years in Europe without major wars and use my skills as collateral.

High quality skills and products could predominantly replace money if we all retained at least two perfected trades. And I know through experience that the majority are capable of doing this.
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I watched this several years ago and the complete grinding up of the cars was truly criminal indeed.

If I could come back again it would be as a journeyman between 1814 and 1914 where there was a hundred years in Europe without major wars and use my skills as collateral.

High quality skills and products could predominantly replace money if we all retained at least two perfected trades. And I know through experience that the majority are capable of doing this.
Have you seen those pics what show tons of military vehicles that have been dumped in the oceans? why would they do that when they could just recycle the metal. Such a destructive waste.
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Too many people coming out of the woodworks claiming they have invented a free energy device, yet demonstration of it often or always ends in failure to prove it. Why is Icke so convinced that free energy exists, or rather can be harnessed in a way that it can be used an alternative source of power?. Proving free energy exists is one thing, showing how it can be used and adapted to power something is something else. So I have a car that can allow free energy to be used to power the thing, and let's say this is from the invisible energy that's around us. How on earth can you power something with a "fuel source" when you don't know it's there?. And what would be driving the motor?. Is the motor kickstarted by this energy and then the motor just continually runs and runs, generating more power (which physics say is against the laws of physics) as it operates?, if so then how would you stop it?. It would be basically like using wireless technology.

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Its one of those things people talk loads about but nobody seems to have a clue as to how to achieve it. When I was into UFO stuff I recall reading a story, possibly Albert Benders, where he was given the plans for a free energy device. He made the device but it went through is roof and he was apparently unable to replicate it, which makes it sound like bullshit.

You would think that if the principles were so well known that somebody could come up with a small working model to prove the design.
O it's been achieved alright, it's just that with global elite around the word "free" is a no-no. On the moon documentary tonight there was a professor whose sole passion is to harness unused solar energy ( a million terrabytes or so) caught on the light side of the moon and channel it back to Earth. The whole operation in covering the moon with solar panels ( no more than paper thin) and microwave transmitters to beam it back to Earth would cost around half a trillion dollars, yet this amount is already being spent down here on Terra Firma by those who drill for (and make huge profits from) oil.

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I watched this several years ago and the complete grinding up of the cars was truly criminal indeed.

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The grossest act of human disinvention we'll ever know about - it could also have translated to solar powered buses, taxis, trains.

Makes you think how much more disinvention is going on ; how many other ideas are bought out, patented, locked up in a safe deemed unavailable for public consumption. One comes to mind of wind turbine generator in Hull which could run on rice husks - had all its funding withdrawn.

The New Dark Age. The Italian Renaissance would have embraced all this. We however seem to have the gears set in reverse.

In UK at least it's working on a local level too - with all the cuts we're about to lose our local library and public swimming baths...basic amenities, now withdrawn and seen as unaffordable luxuries. These are regressive steps back into the 19th century. UK - supposedly the 5th richest country in the world, now struggles to maintain a health service, libraries...even a swimming baths.

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The grossest act of human disinvention we'll ever know about - it could also have translated to solar powered buses, taxis, trains.

Makes you think how much more disinvention is going on ; how many other ideas are bought out, patented, locked up in a safe deemed unavailable for public consumption. One comes to mind of wind turbine generator in Hull which could run on rice husks - had all its funding withdrawn.

The New Dark Age. The Italian Renaissance would have embraced all this. We however seem to have the gears set in reverse.
I really do think there is a medieval dark period well under way with what could be really beneficial to us in terms of energy.
The technology seems great but it's not really benefitting us unless we see as electronic speech the be all and end all.

The sun gives us per square meters per day many times more than oil and gas does by a huge margin, all we need to do is harness it and create devices that run almost on fresh air instead of huge power stations.

Lots of smaller unit producing energy is by far the best situation here.

In corporate all rivers, our biodigestible sewage and so on.

If we continue to dominate the many and wasting 50 percent of our resources doing it we are heading in only one direction.

The patents office must be totally ignored by the inventors to come.

This is paramount because we have no say in the matter as they scrutinise it and compartmentalise and weaponise the global brain.

All of the writing is on our walls all we need to do is knock them down by a mass brain non compliance while we still can.
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There's an old adage that if a farmer living back in the Middle Ages in Yorkshire found his butter churn had broken down, chances are, he could probably fix it himself.

Yet today , surrounded by alien techno as we are from the washing machine to the microwave how many on here could honestly make do and mend without calling in a specialist ? (I know you probably could, Apprentice). I know I probably couldn't.

We are already algorithmised in our daily lives more than we realise and mainly in blissful ignorance of the fact...until it breaks down.

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There's an old adage that if a farmer living back in the Middle Ages in Yorkshire found his butter churn had broken down, chances are, he could probably fix it himself.

Yet today , surrounded by alien techno as we are from the washing machine to the microwave how many on here could honestly make do and mend without calling in a specialist ? (I know you probably could, Apprentice). I know I probably couldn't.

We are already algorithmised in our daily lives more than we realise and mainly in blissful ignorance of the fact...until it breaks down.
I have to a large extent replace just about every part on our old Bendix washer now twenty years old. I have also worked out the newer models and save neighbours the 100 quid service charge that some ask for which is almost the cost of a new machine today.

We are being bled by BS from both sides.

This is exactly how we have been weakened and only in the matter of 20 years, which I got hammered for suggesting it on the forum.

We really need to begin to apply these skills from the ground up because the service industry is now being controlled by a controlled drought itself and has about ten years left to run I would say.

I know I'm different but there are many more like myself who are adapt at using diagnostic skills to make things work. But what happens when my generation has gone.

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Welcome to the Dinosaur Club...or is that ironic to say so on a site such as this ?!!
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Have you seen those pics what show tons of military vehicles that have been dumped in the oceans? why would they do that when they could just recycle the metal. Such a destructive waste.
Not yet but I can imagine it, like the brand new helicopters thrown into the ocean in Vietnam after only one flight.

These greedy pigs will eventually kill us all and there will be only a few left to fight each other holding a bag of credits in one hand and a gun in the other, hopefully both will draw aim and not miss each other.
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The reason that free energy is so ridiculed (laws of thermodynamics) is in my opinion that something like that actually exists and has to be kept secret. I can't tell you anything specific but think about the following: When building ships it is clear that it can work. Water will carry something like a log of wood and it can be seen by everyone. The water can move things so it can be used to drive machinery.
With air it is basically not that obvious because it is very thin compared to water. Wind can be felt and tornadoes demonstrate the enormous power of air. So building windmills is logical and sooner or later balloons were invented. By using sails the wind power is combined with the carrying capability of water. So for operating a ship it is "free energy" and we understand how it works and where the energy comes from.
If there is a similar principle in the cosmos that is even thinner than air so it can not be observed or felt no one will believe it. Therefore it is easily ridiculed and can even be hidden in plain sight. The whole deception works as "it is not a lie, you can depict it that way". BTW, the directional derivative of the energy density terms gives you a force density in that direction (pressure), integrated over the area gives you the force.

Schools and universities are also just honeypots and tar pits to overload your brain and make you not able to think freely.
When you are "learning" you are active, when you are "teaching" you are also active. In the educational system you are being taught and therefore you are passive. You accept the information as being true because someone in front of you has a higher status and are not questioning it - a very old trick.

If you want to understand what is going on you have to ask: "Have I checked the information myself, did I conduct an experiment myself or do I believe it.". Maybe there is another experiment that fails or shows contradictory results but this will not be revealed to you. Soon you will figure out that science has become a religion with dogmas and your life is completely screwed up.
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Welcome to the Dinosaur Club...or is that ironic to say so on a site such as this ?!!
I'm not ready for the old wheel chair into the tar pit just yet

Even though I felt it today after standing up and down a hundred times tying in the sweet peas strings.
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Not yet but I can imagine it, like the brand new helicopters thrown into the ocean in Vietnam after only one flight.

These greedy pigs will eventually kill us all and there will be only a few left to fight each other holding a bag of credits in one hand and a gun in the other, hopefully both will draw aim and not miss each other.
In the JFK film, the Donald Sutherland character scene gives Garrison the figures on Vietnam...Bell Helicopters having 'lost' 3,000 helicopters so far, alongside General Dynamics ( makers of F1 fighter jets)...the total cost (to the taxpayer): $75-100 Billion dollars...$200 Billion dollars before it (Vietnam) is all over.

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