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Old 15-12-2017, 01:49 AM   #81
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Old 15-12-2017, 02:09 AM   #82
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" The last 18 months has been one long process of the political class and the left trying to sabotage & annul two democratic votes (Brexit & Trump).

Let the history books show this.

If democracy can be invalidated at the whim of the establishment’s displeasure with the result, what’s the point in voting?" ...infowars

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Old 15-12-2017, 01:20 PM   #83
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So today Theresa tweeted thank you to Junker and the EU.

And the Junker tweeted thank you to Theresa.

All in it together, they might appear divided on TV but they are all on the same side.

Brexit only in name.
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Old 16-01-2018, 06:35 PM   #84
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Even Nigel Farage is open to having a 2nd referendum now.

Keep on voting until they get the answer they want.
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Old 17-01-2018, 03:30 PM   #85
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Old 26-01-2018, 06:36 AM   #86
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Even just a quick analysis of just one part of BBC output exposes the bias of that organisation.


https://www.davidicke.com/article/45...iod-pro-brexit

How about some credible analysis of where the EU federation is going with it's plans over the next 40 years?


Let's call the remoaners what they truly are: federalist, globalist and socialist?
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Old 26-01-2018, 09:44 AM   #87
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Membership to the EU is a contract. All contracts have exit clauses. A contract that becomes harmful to one of the parties is not a valid contract. A contract is also not valid if the members (the people of England) have been mislead and prove that they did not understand fully what they were getting in to.

Memberships to organisations and contracts can ALL be exited at any point in time.

Don't let this go, stand up and speak up NOW and don't let the EU elites steal your lives which ultimately affects all others watching and waiting to do the same thing.
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Old 26-01-2018, 06:25 PM   #88
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'Timid' Theresa May faces leadership challenge: 60 Eurosceptic MPs warn her to make a clean Brexit break from Brussels or they will scupper her premiership

Squabbled sparked by Philip Hammond saying Brexit would see 'modest' change
The Chancellor said Britain would stay in a ‘customs arrangement’ with the EU
The backlash led No 10 to disown the remarks but Mrs May still faces rebellion

By Jason Groves And Mario Ledwith For The Daily Mail
Published: 00:38, 26 January 2018 | Updated: 11:19, 26 January 2018
Theresa May faces the threat of a leadership challenge as a group of 60 Eurosceptic MPs warned her to make a clean break from Brussels or they would scupper her premiership.

The Tories were plunged into war by Philip Hammond saying leaving the EU would result in only ‘very modest’ change.

The Chancellor sparked uproar among Eurosceptic MPs after he said Britain would stay in a ‘customs arrangement’ with the EU – and suggested free movement might continue in all but name.

The ferocious backlash led No 10 to disown the remarks and forced Mr Hammond to issue a partial ‘clarification’, insisting he stood by Tory pledges to make a clean break with the EU.

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Old 26-01-2018, 11:59 PM   #89
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May, may last until May.
If she's lucky.

Independence for the UK nothing short of this will be acceptable.
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Old 27-01-2018, 10:07 AM   #90
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May, may last until May.
If she's lucky.

Independence for the UK nothing short of this will be acceptable.
The tories are now talking of dragging out the 'transition for another year to make it a three year transition'

So whats happening is that they are attempting to keep us in the EU until the next general election which labour may very well win so that they can then renege in brexit. Brexit is being derailed not only by labour but by the tories and most of the political class; they are just trying to figure out how to fuck over the british people without it looking like they are fucking over the british people

Brexit: UK considers asking Brussels for a longer transition period
Exclusive: EU says it wants the implementation timeframe to end on 31 December 2020

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The UK’s Brexit negotiators are considering asking the EU for a longer transition period than the one they have been offered, amid concerns it will not be long enough to prepare the country for exit. The possibility of a longer transition comes amid increasing discontent from the Tory right about the period as an EU “vassal state”, and with negotiations on the issue set to start in earnest in the coming weeks. A Brussels source told The Independent that British officials had asked about the feasibility of extending the period in a recent meeting, while UK diplomats admitted that it might need to stretch beyond the start of 2021 and would not rule out pushing for a later date in upcoming talks.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a8179996.html

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Old 28-01-2018, 02:07 AM   #91
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Fair comment IAAWOTS, however.
Some people are under the impression that Brexiters are operating from a position of weakness, with limited support or resource.

“Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.”

? Sun Tzu, The Art of War



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The tories are now talking of dragging out the 'transition for another year to make it a three year transition'

So whats happening is that they are attempting to keep us in the EU until the next general election which labour may very well win so that they can then renege in brexit. Brexit is being derailed not only by labour but by the tories and most of the political class; they are just trying to figure out how to fuck over the british people without it looking like they are fucking over the british people

Brexit: UK considers asking Brussels for a longer transition period
Exclusive: EU says it wants the implementation timeframe to end on 31 December 2020

Jon Stone Brussels
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The UK’s Brexit negotiators are considering asking the EU for a longer transition period than the one they have been offered, amid concerns it will not be long enough to prepare the country for exit. The possibility of a longer transition comes amid increasing discontent from the Tory right about the period as an EU “vassal state”, and with negotiations on the issue set to start in earnest in the coming weeks. A Brussels source told The Independent that British officials had asked about the feasibility of extending the period in a recent meeting, while UK diplomats admitted that it might need to stretch beyond the start of 2021 and would not rule out pushing for a later date in upcoming talks.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a8179996.html
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Old 28-01-2018, 03:17 AM   #92
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May is neutralized.
MI6/SIS undergoing house cleaning.
Queen/monarchs seeking shelter.
Patience.
These people are stupid.
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Old 28-01-2018, 03:22 AM   #93
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umm this leaver is getting really pissed off. not that surprised though
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Old 28-01-2018, 02:09 PM   #94
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https://news.sky.com/story/jeremy-co...endum-11226289

Supply Maths Teacher speaks! Very very quiet from certain Labour supporters I know. (Not on here obviously)
How about another leadership challenge? It's all bollocks anyway but whatever it takes to drag this shit out even longer than it should.
Are these the interesting times we've been cursed to live in? Or just more outperformed by Milk floats nonsense?
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Old 28-01-2018, 02:48 PM   #95
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I am told we are ruled by consent - well, I have never given my consent to be ruled by Brussels, and indeed the only time I have been asked I refused it in the referendum.

So where am I legally, if I refuse to obey Brussels? I know their laws have been incorporated into ours, but they have not been considered by our representatives at all.

Not that I believe our democracy and consent is anything but a sham and a farce - those control freaks who surrender their integrity in order to gain power will do as they please whatever the great unwashed think.
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Old 30-01-2018, 03:55 PM   #96
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Default CnP from Brexit Central today. Writer John Longworth.

In the spring of 2016, the then Chancellor of the Exchequer, backed by the Treasury, said unequivocally that a vote to leave the EU would produce a recession and unemployment would rise by half a million. In fact, employment has risen by 400,000 to the highest rate on record and unemployment is at an all-time low – in stark contrast to the appalling levels of unemployment of the Club Med countries, which are under the yoke of the EU.

Defying the predictions of the British trade associations and of the IMF and the EU itself, UK economic growth in 2016 boosted and in 2017 was 1.8% compared to the predicted levels varying between 1.5% at the top end and as low as 0.6% predicted by a US Bank, which shall remain nameless, lest you would want to switch your funds. At the same time, UK export order books are at a 30-year high according to the CBI and domestic orders at a 20-year high. The current account deficit has been narrowed by two percentage points (although still not enough) and the balance of trade has substantially improved (although still massively in favour of the EU).

The Deutsche Bank Chief Executive recently said that the talk of relocation of staff from London to the EU had been exaggerated and only a few were at risk. The head of the central bank of France said that the so-called threat to the City of London was greatly exaggerated. Direct foreign investment into the UK grew in 2017. In short, the UK economy is strong and in rude good health. Even the strongly-Remain Economist magazine acknowledges that the predictions were wrong.

In the vernacular of Shakespeare, those who contributed to “Project Fear” running up to the referendum and into 2017 were either fools or knaves. They either showed extraordinary bad judgement and poor economic modelling (in which case it calls into question their reliability on forecasting in general) or they were deliberately lying as part of the campaign to keep Britain in the EU (in which case can they be trusted in future?).

The importance of all this is to be clear about the basis of what I am going to say next about the post-Brexit economic future for the UK and the EU, the vision of which is so much tied up in the assumptions made and the politics as played out. One of the problems of much of the erroneous economic modelling was not just that the models are not fit for purpose but, even more, that the assumptions used were erroneous – “garbage in, garbage out!”

The logical positioning of the EU is to place the interests of the 27 above those of Britain. It has taken Her Majesty’s Government some time to appreciate this, as the working assumption was that the process of leaving would be a cooperative venture amongst friends who share a mutual interest in prosperity and security. This is not to be. The EU, France and, particularly, Germany have made it clear that it is their objective to make sure Britain is worse off, made to suffer in order to discourage the rest and to extract as much money as possible to maintain the integrity of the EU “project”. Any means will be used. Witness how the Republic of Ireland was used as a block until Germany got the payment promise it wanted in the first round of negotiations, at which point the block was removed without anything actually changing for Ireland. Cynical or what?

It is crystal clear to me that the EU and Germany (backed by their business leaders) are quite prepared to sacrifice businesses and workers in Germany, the Netherlands, Denmark, Sweden, Spain, Italy and Ireland amongst others, in order to preserve the long term EU “project” – the inexorable march towards an EU supra-national state with France and, particularly, Germany at the centre.

This leads us to an inevitable conclusion: Britain will leave the EU and adopt global trade based on WTO terms.

There is, of course, a possibility Britain will offer a trade arrangement with the EU prior to leaving. A simple trade arrangement for goods would, of course, obviate the need for a transition period and thus affect the timing of benefits. It would also benefit the EU. This does not change the central thesis for Britain, but would help obviate losses for the EU.

Under global trade, Britain will do well as it will have a competitive currency for some time and be able to leverage its newly-won economic freedoms, giving it a highly-competitive economy. The repatriation of fisheries and reform of the Common Agricultural Policy will be a boost. The savings from the net contribution, no longer paid to the EU, can be invested in healthcare, infrastructure and digital while providing tax breaks for business and individuals, boosting growth and overall tax receipts.

Better regulation will provide a competitive edge and the removal of external tariffs, either unilaterally or through trade deals, will be a major fillip.

The effect on exports will be marked as UK goods and services will be cheaper. In the domestic market, goods from the EU will be more expensive relative to the competition, either because tariffs are levied post-Brexit, or because tariffs are removed, creating more competition from the rest of the world. The net effect of all this is that the UK economy will benefit and the EU economy will suffer.

The economic freedoms in aggregate would yield additional GDP growth of around 6% to 7% which would be the equivalent of boosting UK growth by a third every year for the best part of a decade.

Economists for Free Trade (EFT), whose Chairman is the famous economist Patrick Minford, have done some work on the relative cost/benefit that will accrue as the UK leaves the EU and adopts global trade. It is worth noting that Minford has been correct in his forecasts of the major economic changes in Britain over the last 35 years, unlike the economic forecasters mentioned earlier.

EFT estimate that the effect of the boost in growth accrued from leveraging our economic freedoms combined with the impact of tariffs would produce a startling outcome. Calculated on the basis of Net Present Value (NPV) over 10 years, the EU economy will lose by £507 billion while the British economy will gain by over £650 billion.

The measure of success of Brexit, as set out by the British electorate, is whether we take control of our laws, money and borders. However, the above calculations might help explain why so many entrepreneurs and business owners are committed to the Brexit cause.
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Old 30-01-2018, 04:52 PM   #97
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Today it seems we will be leaving in name only.

We will be part of the EU but have no say in it. But we will have to accept their rules, FOM, etc etc etc.

Which is exactly what the political elite want. Not technically in the EU, but we remain under it's control.
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More demographic warfare by the Eurocrats.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-migrants.html
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Farage to return to a sovereign and fully independent Britain.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/91...or-pro-EU-flag


None of this half Brexit/half biscuit nonsense.

Britain must exit cleanly if any other EU member states wish to leave at a later date.
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Barnier is back in London today, or rather was. Looking very red in the face like he has been out on the lash with olly reid!

More negotiations about the customs union. More waffle from David Davies and Mother Theresa.

No one in the UK government seems to have a clue, which is all part of their cunning plan. Not leaving the EU by acting dumb and messing up the negotiating.
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