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Old 14-02-2019, 04:31 PM   #381
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The Green New Deal is not about the planet - it's about CONTROL (all predicted in David Icke's books a long time ago)



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Old 20-02-2019, 02:53 PM   #382
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Who’s Behind the Green New Deal? Big Money Backs Ocasio-Cortez Socialist Dream Project
By Aaron klein
19 Feb 20196150

The Green New Deal blueprint introduced by Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was crafted by three far-left organizations and is being pushed by a coalition of well-funded professional progressive groups and known leftist agitators.

Some of the organizations helping to promote the Green New Deal have ties to financing from billionaire George Soros and trace their roots to such radical groups as Occupy Wall Street and Black Lives Matter.

Earlier this month, Ocasio-Cortez posted an 11-page Google document in the form of a nonbinding legislative resolution that has become the most authoritative version of the Green New Deal, a broad outline for the current conception of the socialist-style plan.

The Green New Deal was crafted by Ocasio-Cortez along with three groups — the Sunrise Movement, Justice Democrats and a group calling itself New Consensus.

The New Yorker reported:

The document was written over a single December weekend by the staff of the freshman representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and three like-minded progressive groups, none of which existed two years ago: the Sunrise Movement, a grassroots climate organization; the Justice Democrats, which recruits and supports progressive candidates; and an upstart policy shop called the New Consensus.

Besides helping to write the deal text, the Sunrise Movement has been the central progressive organization lobbying the Democratic Party to implement the Green New Deal.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...paign=20190219
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Old 21-02-2019, 11:41 PM   #383
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Corbyn insists second referendum is central to Labour's agenda



Jeremy Corbyn inching closer to backing a second referendum
Labour leader under intense pressure to act to prevent more restive MPs from leaving party
Heather Stewart, Daniel Boffey and Dan Sabbagh
Thu 21 Feb 2019 18.42 GMT

Jeremy Corbyn is inching closer to backing a second referendum, with the Labour leader under intense pressure from senior figures including Keir Starmer to prevent more restive MPs from leaving the party and spike the guns of the splitters.

At a Brexit policy meeting this week, Starmer spoke out in favour of an amendment drawn up by the Labour MPs Peter Kyle and Phil Wilson, the Guardian understands. Under the terms of the amendment, MPs would support the prime minister’s deal in exchange for it being put to a public vote.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-binary-choice
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Old 21-02-2019, 11:45 PM   #384
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Are you afraid of a second referendum? It's not something I would back, but logically it'd be the same people voting?
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Old 22-02-2019, 06:56 PM   #385
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Are you afraid of a second referendum? It's not something I would back, but logically it'd be the same people voting?
I don't trust the results of the scottish independent referendum. i think they rigged it

I also don't trust the french election results that catapulted Macron into power. i think they rigged that too

Now we have had a referendum on brexit the system knows by how many votes they would have to swing it by skullduggery. Do i trust them? No

We had the vote so why do we need another? All we now need is for the politicians to carry out the democratic will of the british people

If the remain crowd has won the vote they would not have allowed a second brexit vote two years later
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I don't trust the results of the scottish independent referendum. i think they rigged it

I also don't trust the french election results that catapulted Macron into power. i think they rigged that too

Now we have had a referendum on brexit the system knows by how many votes they would have to swing it by skullduggery. Do i trust them? No

We had the vote so why do we need another? All we now need is for the politicians to carry out the democratic will of the british people

If the remain crowd has won the vote they would not have allowed a second brexit vote two years later
Yes, that's most likely true.

It'd be interesting to see what the results of a second referendum would be, but not at the expense of actually having one.

Btw, I didn't see Corbyn insist on anything in that article. I take it that was artistic licence on your part.

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Old 22-02-2019, 07:08 PM   #387
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Yes, that's most likely true.

It'd be interesting to see what the results of a second referendum would be, but not at the expense of actually having one.

Btw, I didn't see Corbyn insist on anything in that article. I take it that was artistic licence on your part..
corbyn wants to keep us in the customs union and with free movement

if corbyn gets his way we will be bound to trade only with the EU, we will be bound by their rules and we will not have regained control of our borders

In other words we would not have brexit

I'm not sure what you are not understanding here?
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Old 22-02-2019, 07:16 PM   #388
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corbyn wants to keep us in the customs union and with free movement

if corbyn gets his way we will be bound to trade only with the EU, we will be bound by their rules and we will not have regained control of our borders

In other words we would not have brexit

I'm not sure what you are not understanding here?
Your insistence that Corbyn was insistent on a second referendum, when the article merely speculates that he is moving in that direction.

What are you not understanding about that?
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Old 22-02-2019, 07:21 PM   #389
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Your insistence that Corbyn was insistent on a second referendum, when the article merely speculates that he is moving in that direction.

What are you not understanding about that?
oh you mean the title i posted above the picture?

I cut and pasted that off the headlines of this website along with the picture saying corbyn is a 'sell out'

I posted that because i agree that he is a sell out and have said so myself

A clip came out recently showing corbyn virtue signalling to irish voters telling them that the EU would make them vote again on the lisbon treaty because they did not vote the way that the EU wanted them to vote. He then said he wished we could have a vote in britain

Well we GOT a vote in britain! The british people including 60% of labour constituencies voted to leave the EU

So what does jeremy 'i did nothing about the child abuse in homes in islington' corbyn do?

he says we need another vote until we vote for something that the EU will agree to. sell out
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Old 22-02-2019, 07:23 PM   #390
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oh you mean the title i posted above the picture?

I cut and pasted that off the headlines of this website along with the picture saying corbyn is a 'sell out'

I posted that because i agree that he is a sell out and have said so myself

A clip came out recently showing corbyn virtue signalling to irish voters telling them that the EU would make them vote again on the lisbon treaty because they did not vote the way that the EU wanted them to vote. He then said he wished we could have a vote in britain

Well we GOT a vote in britain! The british people including 60% of labour constituencies voted to leave the EU

So what does jeremy 'i did nothing about the child abuse in homes in islington' corbyn do?

he says we need another vote until we vote for something that the EU will agree to. sell out
So you copy and paste untruths then.
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So you copy and paste untruths then.
The majority of MP's voted to REMAIN...

Jeremy Corbyn backs MPs' plan to force a second Brexit referendum
By Gordon Rayner, Political Editor Steven Swinford, Deputy Political Editor
22 January 2019 • 8:00am

Jeremy Corbyn has endorsed a plan to force a second EU referendum as he bowed to pressure from Labour party members and MPs.

Mr Corbyn wants the Government to give MPs the final say next week on a second referendum. If a majority back a referendum, Parliament could force Theresa May to hold a new in/out public vote that could lead to Brexit being reversed.

Supporters of the so-called “People’s Vote” were jubilant tonight, describing Labour’s new policy as a “momentous” move that brought a referendum a “massive” step closer.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...it-referendum/
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Old 22-02-2019, 07:29 PM   #392
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The majority of MP's voted to REMAIN...

Jeremy Corbyn backs MPs' plan to force a second Brexit referendum
By Gordon Rayner, Political Editor Steven Swinford, Deputy Political Editor
22 January 2019 • 8:00am

Jeremy Corbyn has endorsed a plan to force a second EU referendum as he bowed to pressure from Labour party members and MPs.

Mr Corbyn wants the Government to give MPs the final say next week on a second referendum. If a majority back a referendum, Parliament could force Theresa May to hold a new in/out public vote that could lead to Brexit being reversed.

Supporters of the so-called “People’s Vote” were jubilant tonight, describing Labour’s new policy as a “momentous” move that brought a referendum a “massive” step closer.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...it-referendum/
And........where's this so called insistence?
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And........where's this so called insistence?
i guess the bit in the article would be:

But Corbyn said the option of holding a second referendum, should May fail to back a close economic partnership with the EU, remained “very much part of the agenda put forward by the Labour party”.

so i guess that could be interpreted as an insistence that a second referendum is central to Labour's agenda

can 'very much part of the agenda' be equated to 'central to the agenda'? I think in this case yes as we all understand what's going on here
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Old 22-02-2019, 08:00 PM   #394
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i guess the bit in the article would be:

But Corbyn said the option of holding a second referendum, should May fail to back a close economic partnership with the EU, remained “very much part of the agenda put forward by the Labour party”.

so i guess that could be interpreted as an insistence that a second referendum is central to Labour's agenda

can 'very much part of the agenda' be equated to 'central to the agenda'? I think in this case yes as we all understand what's going on here
Well, bowing to pressure is hardly insistence, but if you insist I'll bow to pressure to end this dumb converse.
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Well, bowing to pressure is hardly insistence, but if you insist I'll bow to pressure to end this dumb converse.
you can bow to pressure and then insist on something....

but i think you give corbyn too much credit

he's a weather vane politician not a sign post politician

i don't respect that. You know where you stand with people who have principles even if you don't agree with them

Do you know the people who are the most slippery and have the least principles? PSYCHOPATHS

Yeah psychopaths will tell you whatever they think that you want to hear in order that they can get whatever it is that they want from you

I don't give a fuck what you want to hear. I'm going to tell you what i believe is true
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