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Old 04-04-2013, 01:26 PM   #60701
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I imagine they engaged in orgies, she probably liked a bit of 'ice docking' or whatever it's called.
You.crack me up ...... SPACE.DOCKING
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Old 04-04-2013, 01:26 PM   #60702
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So, collector of "art" that most normal people would consider child pornography sells off said "art".
Artist is now know to be sexual abuser of children, current owner "Tate" decides that the "art" is not suitable to be exhibited.
Previous owner, has been wrongly accused of being involved with child abuse, but miraculously cleared of all allegations in a manor which he clearly describes as a good little ploy for discrediting an accuser in previously published book of political and business scheming.
What a sham.

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Old 04-04-2013, 01:27 PM   #60703
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He is the classic you scratch my back and I will scratch yours.
Don't think he lasted that long because he had the dirt on them, anyone can be suicided !
He just played the game and they knew he could be trusted to keep his gob shut, after all he was able to continue his vile activities with the weight of the law protecting him.
He was a talentless DJ , and yet he died a very wealthy man, charity was a front just like a drug dealer having a pub or club as a front for their dodgy deals.
My personal opinion is he was paid a lot of money, and that mostly ended up offshore
He did always say he didn't need the money, and said in one interview the BBC had it in his contract a Rolls Royce a year in Luie of salary.... Now don't know about you but if I got that every year I could San around in a flash car, but have no food in the cupboard or roof over my head .
Strange eh....... Wealthy man Savile very very wealthy.
Wonder where his wealth did go? Questions being asked but no answers so far
http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.u...ions-1-5289103
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Old 04-04-2013, 01:29 PM   #60704
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Old 04-04-2013, 01:33 PM   #60705
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Why do they always use that same photo of Savile?
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Old 04-04-2013, 01:35 PM   #60706
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The allegations against him are not linked to the decades of child sexual abuse carried out by Savile.

Maybe sometime this year they'll get around to arresting someone who actually was linked to the decades of child abuse carried out by Savile. Why is it always 'others'?
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Old 04-04-2013, 01:35 PM   #60707
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65 year old arrested in Sommerset under operation Yewtree
Wonder where in Somerset

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/1680850.stm
Cant believe he was the only one involved, more serious than Wales so they say, Avon and Somerset.

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Old 04-04-2013, 01:37 PM   #60708
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Wonder where his wealth did go? Questions being asked but no answers so far
http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.u...ions-1-5289103
I asked this months ago,forensic accountants where are they.Saville was worth a lot more,his bank accounts should be opened up to scrutiny.Follow the money and the other paedos will be obvious. The charity work was a front,he was skimming money off,who was paying money into his accounts where did it go to,etc etc.Not rocket science,but its been hushed up.
This thread goes round in circles as Jimmy said,no wonder he has had enough.
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Old 04-04-2013, 01:41 PM   #60709
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Wonder where his wealth did go? Questions being asked but no answers so far
http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.u...ions-1-5289103
Very interesting... He. Could try checking Jersey.
Payments made for services rendered would have to be in cash, or transferred from one offshore account into another.
Can't have the payers name linked to Savile now can we that would leave a trail and that would lead to XYZ .
I wonder if this forensic accounting will uncover the slug trail... Will it be covered up ? Or is that a stupid question ?
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Why do they always use that same photo of Savile?
It's his best side of his two face
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Old 04-04-2013, 01:56 PM   #60711
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I asked this months ago,forensic accountants where are they.Saville was worth a lot more,his bank accounts should be opened up to scrutiny.Follow the money and the other paedos will be obvious. The charity work was a front,he was skimming money off,who was paying money into his accounts where did it go to,etc etc.Not rocket science,but its been hushed up.
This thread goes round in circles as Jimmy said,no wonder he has had enough.
Leaks reveal secrets of the rich who hide cash offshore

Exclusive: Offshore financial industry leak exposes identities of 1,000s of holders of anonymous wealth from around the world

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/ap...hore-tax-haven

Follow the money.........
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Old 04-04-2013, 01:59 PM   #60712
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Here is what Ovenden's daughter is into...



http://www.whopopular.com/Emily-Alice-Ovenden

About Emily Alice Ovenden Emily Alice Ovenden is a English singer and composer and a member of the number one selling UK Classical Chart act, the Mediæval Bæbes, selling over 500,000 albums worldwide. She has recently published a fiction novel called The Ice Room and is lead singer of both heavy metal band, Pythia and celtic group, Celtic Legend. She was born and raised in Cornwall and is now located in London. She is the daughter of the painter Graham Ovenden and the artist Annie Ovenden.




Her novel The Ice Room - a review...

Addictive, seductive, frightening - The Ice Room will stay with you long after you close the novel. From the haunting cover, to the final whispered words, Ovenden takes the reader on a journey you're never likely to forget. This is a tale of the many forms of sexual obsession, and as such it both disturbs and fascinates. The characters are skillfully drawn, so that, though committing horrendous acts, one can never absolutely set them as good or bad. The Ice Room itself is a thrilling and engaging story of friendship and particularly male relationships.
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Old 04-04-2013, 01:59 PM   #60713
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It does go rond in circles but every time it does the circle gets a little bit tighter and smaller as à few more dots get joined

I cant imagine Jimmy's frustration at this it must be awful to watch

Also remember that Ray Wyre counselled the abusers hè treated to say theyd been abused we need to remember that the public image of Child abusers is carefully constructed by other Child abusers just like childline is probably an early warning system they have infiltrated at all levels just like paedophile the word itself is à rebranding PIE remarketing ploy.

I no longer think so many abused go on to abuse - children are certainly recruited And some indoctrinated as we might guess with Kitty but I doubt the no of abused who go on to abuse are actually out of step with percentages of abusers who havent been abused - It takes à certain type of reaction And design for power by someone over someone powerless
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Old 04-04-2013, 02:03 PM   #60714
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I have had a feeling all through this that Savile with his links to the sea and ships is something to do with his missing money? He was buried in a gold coffin looking out to sea from the grave. Could he have put his earnings if you can call them that into gold?
I found this link to gold coins and evading vat etc


http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/c...tax-gold-coins


Perhaps he was wearing his nasty gold jewellery as a statement of his wealth or where he kept his money. Follow the money , in his case the gold coins!!


Also found this link with Savile and Apostleship of sea,

http://www.shippingtimes.co.uk/item_10066.html
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Old 04-04-2013, 02:06 PM   #60715
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Maybe the WINDSORS money needs investigating..... They have just had a five million increase of taxpayers money awarded to themselves.
Yes folks your money , to the biggest mega mega mega rich bunch of benefit scroungers on the planet.
I you aren't enraged you ain't paying attention.



Go on say it the royal apologists ..... They bring in soooo much tourism


FUCK OFF LIz And PHil and the other parasites.
Oh feel better for that rant, think I will contact Dave for a five million squid increase for me and members of my family.
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Old 04-04-2013, 02:07 PM   #60716
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I am still a newbie and haven't contributed, sorry. I read alot of your posts and Jimmy's on twitter too. You are all trying to make people aware of what's going on and trying to provide evidence to get justice for the abused. Jimmy said something on twitter about others jumping on the bandwaggon about child abuse and providing links to their websites/promoting books. Think about it, IF we all had a conscience and some don't! We would all be helping Jimmy Jones and what happened to him and others, without getting paid for it. Its not right that people do, I know we all have to put food on the table but with child abuse, it stinks. I haven't contributed here or on twitter, I am not very good with words but I have stopped buying newspapers and cancelled tv licence, yes they threatened to come round, I have said nothing and got a refund! I have not cashed it yet and intend too because once they do they will be hounding me! I am not as strong as alot of you but I my heart is in the right place!

The scum survive and thrive with money, power and control. Cut off the money, I say.
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Old 04-04-2013, 02:12 PM   #60717
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Does anyone know where does 65 year old Simon Bates lives?
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Old 04-04-2013, 02:14 PM   #60718
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http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3658634&page=1

Art or Porn? Elton John's Photos SeizedBy LAURA COVERSON
Sept. 27, 2007

Legendary singer-songwriter Sir Elton John is defending the work of award-winning photographer Nan Goldin after one of her photos, which he now owns, was seized by British authorities. Officials say they received a complaint that the image was pornographic.

The passions of John could stir up legal troubles in the United Kingdom, according to a First Amendment expert on this side of the pond.

Goldin's "Klara and Edda Belly-Dancing" depicts two young girls, one of whom is lying down with her legs spread open.

John lent 150 of the Goldin photos he owns to the Baltic Centre for Contemporary Art in Gateshead, England, for an exhibition.

The New York artist's work is well-known for its gritty and urban themes and is often graphic, provocative and sexually explicit. Her subjects frequently include family, friends and children.

"The photograph exists as part of the installation as a whole and has been widely published and exhibited throughout the world," writes John on his Web site.

"It has been offered for sale at Sotheby's New York … and exhibited in Houston, London, Madrid, New York, Portugal, Warsaw and Zurich without any objections that we are aware of," the singer said in defense of the photograph.

But those facts have not deterred authorities who removed the photo after reportedly receiving a complaint from a gallery employee.

Police are not only interested in the creator of the image, but also the owner of the photograph.

"The circumstances around who may have been involved in the production of the image and who may have owned it or owns it forms part of the investigation," said a spokesman for the Northumbria police.

Legal observers say the United Kingdom does not have a First Amendment law, per se, that can protect or shield some forms of artistic expression. But even in the United States, the Supreme Court has ruled that images of real children who have been sexually exploited are not shielded by free speech claims.

"It is not only about prosecuting the people who created it and may have abused a child in the process," said Marjorie Heins, director of the Free Expression Policy Project. "It is about prosecuting — with very Draconian criminal penalties at this point in the U.S. — a person who simply possesses it and had nothing to do with abusing a child, but buys it or receives it on his computer."

Heins is also a former attorney for the ACLU in New York.

John has been collecting photography since the early 1990s and is considered to own the largest private collection of 20th century photography. More than 2,500 images include the works of acclaimed artists Ansel Adams, Dorothea Lange, Man Ray and the controversial photographer of homoerotic images Robert Mapplethorpe.

Goldin is a friend of John's and the British singer has patronized her work for many years. "Elton was first attracted to the directness, truth and poignancy of Nan Goldin's photography. And her work forms a central part of Elton John's collection," Jane Jackson, the curator of The Sir Elton John Photography Collection, told amateurphotographer.com.

Legal observers in the United States say that while the courts have tried to limit protection of artistic photographs or moving pictures featuring nude children or sexually explicit images of young people, prosecutions have been infrequent.

"Generally, the provocative poses have to be extreme to get a prosecutor's attention," said Loyola Law School professor Laurie Levenson
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Old 04-04-2013, 02:15 PM   #60719
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Savile had link to Apostle of sea as my last link

http://www.shippingtimes.co.uk/item_10066.html

Cardinal Keith O Brien and Apostle of sea

http://archive.catholicherald.co.uk/...farers-charity
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Old 04-04-2013, 02:19 PM   #60720
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Here is what Ovenden's daughter is into...



http://www.whopopular.com/Emily-Alice-Ovenden

About Emily Alice Ovenden Emily Alice Ovenden is a English singer and composer and a member of the number one selling UK Classical Chart act, the Mediæval Bæbes, selling over 500,000 albums worldwide. She has recently published a fiction novel called The Ice Room and is lead singer of both heavy metal band, Pythia and celtic group, Celtic Legend. She was born and raised in Cornwall and is now located in London. She is the daughter of the painter Graham Ovenden and the artist Annie Ovenden.




Her novel The Ice Room - a review...

Addictive, seductive, frightening - The Ice Room will stay with you long after you close the novel. From the haunting cover, to the final whispered words, Ovenden takes the reader on a journey you're never likely to forget. This is a tale of the many forms of sexual obsession, and as such it both disturbs and fascinates. The characters are skillfully drawn, so that, though committing horrendous acts, one can never absolutely set them as good or bad. The Ice Room itself is a thrilling and engaging story of friendship and particularly male relationships.
http://www.myspace.com/emilyovenden/...%3A41732661%7D

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