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Old 04-04-2013, 12:08 PM   #60681
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Is this the one, make a good flyer, leaflet
Thanks for that - a very useful reminder. I've bumped the thread and asked the mods if it should go into the Child Abuse section as it's a relevant resource.

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Old 04-04-2013, 12:14 PM   #60682
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Lord Matthews was Chairman of Cunard:

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Old 04-04-2013, 12:16 PM   #60683
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A woman from North Ayrshire has been charged with sexually assaulting a 10-year-old boy.

Gillian Wallace, from Kilbirnie, is alleged to have seized the child before carrying out indecent acts which left him injured.

During an appearance at Kilmarnock Sheriff Court, the 27-year-old denied committing the offence at a house in Saltcoats in November 2012.

Ms Wallace is to stand trial at the same court in August.

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Old 04-04-2013, 12:19 PM   #60684
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Brilliant thx.

Contrast with this full house
MPs complain dinner expenses rules not generous enough



Says it all - worth combining in a poster methinks.
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Old 04-04-2013, 12:25 PM   #60685
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Lord Matthews was Chairman of Cunard:

http://news.google.com/newspapers?ni...g=3971,4719896
Cheers for the Matthews data.

In digging around I found this - slightly off beam - Mountbatten/gigolo's/Butlins/scandal.......all sorts!

The royal gigolo: Edwina Mountbatten sued over claims of an affair with black singer Paul Robeson. But the truth was even more outrageous...

By Michael Thornton
UPDATED: 20:40, 14 November 2008

Back to years which appear significant - 2008 - again.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...trageous-.html
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Old 04-04-2013, 12:26 PM   #60686
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Brilliant thx.

Contrast with this full house
MPs complain dinner expenses rules not generous enough



Says it all - worth combining in a poster methinks.
Exactly and send em all one
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Old 04-04-2013, 12:53 PM   #60687
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It's two months now since the two, and only, Fernbridge arrests.

Four months since they said a world-famous pop star, a film director and a household-name comedian would be arrested.

I'm just saying.
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Old 04-04-2013, 12:55 PM   #60688
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DAILY EXPRESS Tuesday March 9′ 1982

LORD MATTHEWS and Lady Matthews celebrated their 40th wedding anniversary with 80 close friends at the Ritz Hotel, London, at the weekend.

In the picture with, them, cutting the cake are (left-to-right): Eric Parker, Reg Varney, Bill Cotton Jr, Jimmy Savile, Nlgel Broackes, Sir Douglas Bader, Lord George Brown, and Denis Compton.

The cake was surrounded by 40 different motifs showing Lord and Lady Matthews’ various Interests in business and leisure.

Matthews, who according to the Independent newspaper was a natural Thatcherite and claimed to be the biggest individual donor to the Conservative Party after he had realised that you could give money in the name of a company rather than as an individual, died at his retirement home on JERSEY in December 1995.

http://www.chrisspivey.co.uk/?p=10783
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I am beginning to wonder who this scruffy DJ did not know? How on earth did he have so many contacts on high and seems to be alot of links to politics .
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Old 04-04-2013, 12:56 PM   #60689
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Because he was a pimp to the elite and protected by the establishment.
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Old 04-04-2013, 01:07 PM   #60690
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And there was me thinking they were all in awe of his fashion sense!

It makes you wonder what will come out when Maggie Thatcher dies.
Their friendship was an odd one, what on earth would they have in common!!!
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Old 04-04-2013, 01:07 PM   #60691
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'Often grow up to be Abusers themselves?' Can you please explain where you have drawn your figures from, as that sounds like Guardian or Daily Mail Speak.

Why don't you ever ask people who have experienced abused instead of throwing in quotes which have little basis in fact. In my experience, a few go on to become Abusers, in my limited experience, I would say less than four or five that I know went on to abuse others, and of those, they were Abusers from an early age age anyway, before they even entered the Care system in some cases.

It is pointless anyone such as myself adding anything more to this thread, as the veteran posters have already decided the topics, the direction and the subject matter to be discussed. Anything else is disregarded, mocked or just ignored.

I have tried to help, but to no avail, it seems a pointless gesture to contibute further to this thread for me now.

Sadly, this thread, is similar to Twitter and Facebook in respect to stopping Child Abuse, it never will. It may highlight that there have been some 'bad' things happening by some 'bad' people for many years, but that's it.

But, we already know that, and re-heating and re-hashing old info time and time again, will not move people's thinking forward, it constantly drags it back.

I applaud all the genuine posters on here who are trying to do something, but the rest???

That is not for me to comment on, as it's plain for anyone to see, the little cliques that pull the strings.. Wheels within wheels, within wheels....

There is not one post on this thread, (yes I have read them all) which gets even close to the real reasons, even Jimmy Savile is not the answer or the 'key' to everything...

You really think before Savile there was no child abuse... Good God people think bigger, think outside the box, old Jimmy was a procurer yes, he was an abuser yes, but he was the Tailors Dummy, the shop Mannequin...

He did not share the Bloodline, he held no 'position of power' to most of the structure he was a joke, a Court Jester who was given a few perks to keep him sweet...

But you know what you know, and there is no shifting you, and so it's best left as it is, this thread will grow and grow, the Tweets and FB posts will continue, yet nothing will change unless you really wake up to what is really happening.

It's been a blast, but I really cannot waste any more time with this... Thirty + years of research and staying close to the action counts for nothing it seems..
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We are trying to do something in our own way, sometimes it does feel we are chasing our tails, to me Savile was the key to my eyes.
Where are we going wrong ? Can you at least point some direction ?
I do know its far bigger then Savile , and trying to connect dots leads to politicians and The WINDSORS and the clergy.
We need a whistleblower who has far more info, a reporter a policeman ?
Or like yourself had been in a care home, use that term loosely after what I have discovered about so called care homes.
We are a good bunch of people on here, and I can only speak for myself I do care I care about the children who have and still are being raped , battered and yes murdered, breaks my heart the things I have read on here.
I have a little granddaughter aged two and I want her to grow up in a just peaceful world where no harm can ever again been done to children without consequences irrespective of your so called title money or celeb status.
So jimmy please don't be to harsh against the people on Di, a lot on here mean well and sometimes putting something on here can be difficult , would be different it it was face to face.as it can be misconstrued,
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Old 04-04-2013, 01:08 PM   #60692
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Andrew Pierce, who writes for the Mail online about McAlpine, back in Nov 2012...



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...es-Tories.html

The one-man crusade that fuelled child abuse rumours

...Watson then fuelled the rumour mill still further when he told a political blogger that it was not Peter Morrison at all, rather a living person closely associated with Lady Thatcher.So began the internet pursuit of the innocent Lord McAlpine who for 25 years was a key figure in Lady Thatcher’s inner-circle as treasurer of the Conservative Party.

...Theresa May, the Home Secretary, announced in the Commons that there was to be a new police inquiry into the children’s home in North Wales where McAlpine was so grotesquely and falsely accused of perpetrating abuse

[B]Even after it was revealed beyond question that the allegations against McAlpine were wrong...

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Question for this "journalist" Andrew Pierce...

Now that Graham Ovenden has been found guilty of of six charges of indecency with a child and one of indecent assault , do his views regarding McAlpine, remain the same?

Back in May 2003, McAlpine was selling part of his art collection which included "10 snaps of very young girls in very suggestive poses by [[Graham Ovenden]]".

Shouldn't that raise a few questions for him?


http://the-tap.blogspot.com/2012/11/...dia-entry.html

Prior to Lord McAlpine's Wikipedia entry being altered recently, there was something about him being [B]the mysterious buyer of some erotic art [B]

There was a link, that took you to the artist, Graham Ovenden, it said:

"In May 2003 the London ''Evening Standard'' reported that Lord McAlpine was the "well-known and anonymous collector" for whom Bloomsbury Book Auctions was selling a collection of 344 "fashion and eroticism" photographs, including "10 snaps of very young girls in very suggestive poses by [[Graham Ovenden]]"."McAlpine erotic sell-off", ''Evening Standard'', May 23 2003, p10"

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Any tweeters out there who would like to ask him about this?

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Old 04-04-2013, 01:11 PM   #60693
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And there was me thinking they were all in awe of his fashion sense!

It makes you wonder what will come out when Maggie Thatcher dies.
Their friendship was an odd one, what on earth would they have in common!!!
I imagine they engaged in orgies, she probably liked a bit of 'ice docking' or whatever it's called.
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]So began the internet pursuit of the innocent Lord McAlpine who for 25 years was a key figure in Lady Thatcher’s inner-circle as treasurer of the Conservative Party.

The 'internet pursuit' began after the BBC Newsnight programme. The BBC kicked it all off. But no, he doesn't mention that.
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65 year old arrested in Sommerset under operation Yewtree
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Whoopee! When are they going to arrest someone at Westminster or the palace?
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Old 04-04-2013, 01:20 PM   #60697
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I am beginning to wonder who this scruffy DJ did not know? How on earth did he have so many contacts on high and seems to be alot of links to politics .
He is the classic you scratch my back and I will scratch yours.
Don't think he lasted that long because he had the dirt on them, anyone can be suicided !
He just played the game and they knew he could be trusted to keep his gob shut, after all he was able to continue his vile activities with the weight of the law protecting him.
He was a talentless DJ , and yet he died a very wealthy man, charity was a front just like a drug dealer having a pub or club as a front for their dodgy deals.
My personal opinion is he was paid a lot of money, and that mostly ended up offshore
He did always say he didn't need the money, and said in one interview the BBC had it in his contract a Rolls Royce a year in Lieu of salary.... Now don't know about you but if I got that every year I could Swan around in a flash car, but have no food in the cupboard or roof over my head .
Strange eh....... Wealthy man Savile very very wealthy.
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Can't imagine that. Perhaps it was the rainbow shellsuits and chunky medallions that they shared a love of!!

I just found it odd that they would have anything in common and what on earth did they talk about in the time he stayed with her over Christmas and New Years ? Odd friendship and he seemed to be treated like a family member .
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By the way, why hasn't the msm named Rolf Harris? If there's no injunction, what is stopping them?
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UPDATE March 13, 2013. The artist Graham Ovenden (see below) has been arrested for being a paedophile. Details of the Ovenden trial here. The net is closing Lord McAlpine

If a bloke in a council house owned a collection of photos of naked prepubescent girls he would be arrested as a paedophile, dragged before the courts, found guilty, fined or imprisoned and put on the Sex Offenders Register. The stash would be confiscated and, hopefully destroyed.

But what happens when Lord McAlpine owns a “collection of erotic art” priced in the thousands of pounds? Did you notice the magic phrase, art collection? So because some rich paedophile owns a collection of photographs or pseudo photographs it is now art.

Pseudo photographs are paintings that look like a real photographs, but have been painted while the subject poses or from photographs of the subject, who has previously posed. It changes nothing, kiddie porn is kiddie porn.

How the rich get away with it

Graham Ovenden is a painter and photographer who specialises in images of young girls. The UK police have made several attempts to prosecute him, but all have failed due to an outcry from Establishment figures who obviously believe that rich bastards are art collectors, but the lower classes are perverts. Anyone possessing images of children in erotic poses is a paedophile and should be locked up for at least 30-years, rich or poor.

Graham Ovenden was summoned to court on April 9, 2010. It resulted thus: “On October 22, 2009, after less than two days of trial, the jury was discharged and a new trial date set. On April 9, 2010, after a five-minute hearing the case was thrown out by the judge as two key prosecution witnesses, police officers who had searched his home three and a half years earlier, failed to appear in court. The police declined to comment and the CPS refused to disclose how much the investigation had cost the taxpayer. Graham Ovenden described the police as “totally and utterly transfixed by childhood sexuality” and himself as “a controversial figure and, at the moment, a very angry old man”. The prosecution declined to launch an appeal” (Text in italics from Wikipedia) I smell a cover up.

There is enough evidence to prosecute McAlpine

When Jimmy Savile was finally exposed as a paedophile, Lord McAlpine’s name came up as being one of the predators in a Tory Paedo ring who abused boys and girls in children’s homes. He cried foul and made a very public denial. The BBC, who never actually named him, paid him £185,000 compensation. Why? And why did they also cancel an exposé of the dead Savile a month before they celebrated his life in a Christmas special?

Because they are part of the Establishment and Jimmy Savile, despite the rumours and police investigations performed his stupid clown act on the BBC for 50-years. People, BBC people and others, knew what he was; but did nothing.
Lord McApine who admits to owning some Ovenden ‘Art’, was exposed by the now defunct Scallywag magazine in the early 1990s. But he never sued the magazine! David Icke in his book ‘The Biggest Secret’ named McAlpine as a paedophile. McAlpine never sued him either. So why is McAlpine so worried now?

Here’s why, the Savile revelations have opened a can of worms that will, and is, exposing paedophiles in high places. Those paedophiles are in government, the Civil Service, the Church, the Entertainment industry and the Judiciary. They are all running scared, including McAlpine.

Do people know about McAlpine as well? But, like they did with Savile, are choosing to do nothing? I believe there is enough evidence to charge and convict on ownership of the Ovenden ‘Art’ Collection alone and a proper investigation could bring this dying pervert to book, possibly on other even more serious charges as well. Will the cops investigate? Don’t hold your breath.

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McAlpine admits he owned the Ovenden ‘art’ collection
Graham Ovenden Wikipedia

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