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Old 30-03-2009, 07:01 PM   #1
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Point of information for the uninformed.

People that shoot/hunt/stalk/fish are far more in touch with the natural order of life and nature than people who don't.

Wild animals are free range. They have a totally natural life.
A pheasant shot on a rough shoot has had a better time on this planet than a super market chicken (by the way chickens don't actually grow in fridges-honest)

People who are critical of country sports, yet still eat meat, are kidding themselves and in my opinion are hypocrites.

A true hunter has the utmost respect for his quarry, he has learnt its ways and studied it, without this knowledge nature would not reward him with a kill.

Eating meat is natural 100%. Hunting is also natural to the human animal.

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Old 30-03-2009, 07:07 PM   #2
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1000% agree with you mate, hunters and fisherman do respect there quarry and have a telepathic connection to it, i would much rather catch my own food than by it from a shop or farm, no matter how well its been looked after at the end of the day the animal has a chance as nature intended, and you have to work for your food and you are taking full responsibility for your actions
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Old 30-03-2009, 07:10 PM   #3
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People that shoot/hunt/stalk/fish are far more in touch with the natural order of life and nature than people who don't.
But how would you know? You can't talk for others that simple!

Look, if your a hunter and you like to be one, fine.
But one can just as much be in tune with nature without doing that or eating meat.

Is it really natural order of life and nature, that we have to use tools and get clothes? Someone seems to have gone wrong somewhere...I'm not sure if things are going as they were meant to be, but that's a whole different thing.

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Old 30-03-2009, 07:12 PM   #4
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Point of information for the uninformed.

People that shoot/hunt/stalk/fish are far more in touch with the natural order of life and nature than people who don't.


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Does that include the CIA?


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Old 30-03-2009, 07:21 PM   #5
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Does that include the CIA?


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dont ,think it does ,or barry george for that matter
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Old 30-03-2009, 10:26 PM   #6
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but that's a whole different thing.
yep..
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Old 30-03-2009, 11:47 PM   #7
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Point of information for the uninformed.

People that shoot/hunt/stalk/fish are far more in touch with the natural order of life and nature than people who don't.

Wild animals are free range. They have a totally natural life.
A pheasant shot on a rough shoot has had a better time on this planet than a super market chicken (by the way chickens don't actually grow in fridges-honest)

People who are critical of country sports, yet still eat meat, are kidding themselves and in my opinion are hypocrites.

A true hunter has the utmost respect for his quarry, he has learnt its ways and studied it, without this knowledge nature would not reward him with a kill.

Eating meat is natural 100%. Hunting is also natural to the human animal.

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+1

Sports shooting is a waste of life if it is not eaten.

Its also true that vegetarian societies such as one of the American Indians tribes died out because they relied on just plant's.
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Old 31-03-2009, 08:34 AM   #8
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Its also true that vegetarian societies such as one of the American Indians tribes died out because they relied on just plant's.
-1.

But likely it's also true meat eating societies come and go. People that eat meat die as well.
What's your point? Logic is far to be seen.
What matters is the present.

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Old 31-03-2009, 09:00 AM   #9
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But likely it's also true meat eating societies come and go. People that eat meat die as well.
What's your point? Logic is far to be seen.
What matters is the present.
You will never know your the present until you look into the past.

The tribe died and dispersed because of chronic bone disorders. lack of calcium.

OK. Point out a society that died out because they just ate meat.
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Old 31-03-2009, 09:05 AM   #10
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"Human use of dairy products is a recent and unnecessary development: a diet low in salt and rich in vegetables, fruits and root crops provides the best path to healthy bones. Dairy foods increase calcium loss as well as provide calcium. For example, cheddar cheese causes a net calcium loss in high-risk individuals, and cottage cheese causes calcium loss for most people in general. Foods such as meat, fish and eggs have a strong adverse effect because they are low in calcium and also cause high loss; foods that are low in calcium but also reduce losses, such as peppers, bananas and oranges, provide everyone with at least a modest boost."

http://www.satyamag.com/mar02/walsh.html

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Old 31-03-2009, 09:28 AM   #11
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I was having an argument with a vegatarian the other day and I made the same point as waylander. She considered herself an animal lover but has never spent hours outside in all weathers just watching and studying animals like I have. She said she like animals more than people but it turned out she prefers to spend her time in the company of other people rather than animals in their own habitat and on their terms.

I know far more about various creatures and their habits than it seems most "animal lovers".

I would never consider myself an animal lover any more than I'm a person lover. I treat animals with respect and as equals but as an animal myself,I accept that I am a predator and will prey on certain animals too. The animal lovers on the other hand seem to treat (a select few of cute animals) as fellow humans and have a sentimental view of nature.
You can love animals and hunt them too. A lot of people cant get theirs heads around that concept.
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Old 31-03-2009, 09:45 AM   #12
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but as an animal myself,I accept that I am a predator and will prey on certain animals too


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Old 31-03-2009, 09:47 AM   #13
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You are confusing 'predator' with bastardization of the race, psychopathic proclivity, and brutal urges.

But, we all choose our alters to worship at, don't we?
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You can love animals and hunt them too. A lot of people cant get theirs heads around that concept.
Can one love children and sodomize them too? How about old people? Can one love old people, and steal their pension money?
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Old 31-03-2009, 10:42 AM   #15
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Can one love children and sodomize them too? How about old people? Can one love old people, and steal their pension money?
Can one talk shite and be clever (obviously not in your case)

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Old 31-03-2009, 12:12 PM   #16
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Point of information for the uninformed.

People that shoot/hunt/stalk/fish are far more in touch with the natural order of life and nature than people who don't.

Wild animals are free range. They have a totally natural life.
A pheasant shot on a rough shoot has had a better time on this planet than a super market chicken (by the way chickens don't actually grow in fridges-honest)

People who are critical of country sports, yet still eat meat, are kidding themselves and in my opinion are hypocrites.

A true hunter has the utmost respect for his quarry, he has learnt its ways and studied it, without this knowledge nature would not reward him with a kill.

Eating meat is natural 100%. Hunting is also natural to the human animal.

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I am of the same opinion waylander.

I think the same as you on this one as that is how I have bought myself up (with little or no help from ma and pa on this one) but over the years I have been led down another train of thought. In my readins of trying to find the 'me' in me, I have read lots of books and the like and have listened to loads of guys and girls over the years, as we all no dought have done. A particular book that facinated me, as it answerd a load of questions that have never been (in my mind) answered properly was the one that Icke recomended in his works (as a reference) and that was When The Earth Nearly Died.

To cut a long story short, It is clamed that before the 'great flood' we as humans were living quite happyly on a diet of 'mostly' veg matter, and had little need or rather 'want' of meat stuff. Now one can take all that with a pinch of salt, but the point made later is that as humans, we later developed a greater need for meat as the flood quickly removed all the land matter that cant swim, and washed it away. Leaving only (not only but far far less) a sparce amount of vegitation to feed those that needed it.

cut short again, it points out a need to eat flesh to survive in this post raping of the land as paramount for survival. Thus our desires chainged. Rather meat became more important.

Not pointed out in the book was something I think hapened, and that was canabilisum. Thus folk that loved their breathern soon wished to bury or hide the bodies of the decised. Did we cremate them before the flood? Dunno!


Lessons aside (ho-hum) I am a meat and veg eater like the most of us, and will happyly tuck into a steak, but I am lesening my wants for meats due to what I am finding out about our (possable) past. And am happy with it.


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Can one love children and sodomize them too? How about old people? Can one love old people, and steal their pension money?
I really feel sorry for you. I think you truly need a lot of therapy and hope you get it soon.
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Can one love children and sodomize them too? How about old people? Can one love old people, and steal their pension money?
That is a really discusting counter arguement !
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Now don't sloughter me guys, I do eat meat but not that much. I would like your opinions on the following table please !

I have nothing but admiration and respect for hunters and trackers & wish I was able to do it !

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People that shoot/hunt/stalk/fish are far more in touch with the natural order of life and nature than people who don't.
What about people who know how to find fruits, nuts, mushrooms and cultivate edible plants in a kin's domain setting? Wouldn't they be in touch with nature? If they were to kill their animal friends then wouldn't the animals be scared of Man and run away and hide causing imbalance and an unnatural order?

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